Cyell

11-11-2015, 21:58

Hi Everyone,

My game group and I have recently started playing AoS, and have been bouncing around between all the different point/comps that's been published so far. For one reason or another, mostly due to ranged units being too cheap, we've never settled on one that works for us; so we decided to create our own. This point system will be based on almost all on pure math, where we enter the base stats on a spreadsheet and a formula spits out a value. But there are 2 problems.

The first problem is the formulas gets convoluted when layers upon layers are added to determine a "fair" value. And in most cases it's difficult to say if the formula itself is an accurate measure of a unit's value in the first place. ***I will update this thread with the formula and an explanation later when I get home***

The second problem is that the special rules are not easily quantified, which mean judgement calls, which means bias and skewed numbers.

So the idea here is to post the numbers, and if anyone cares to look through them (or better yet play test them) and provide feedback. Any feedback is welcome, good or bad; and any details of why you think the points are wrong would be great. Please keep in mind this is still a work in progress, and missing about half of the armies. It also doesn't look very pretty as the focus is on getting the point values to a good place. Thanks in advance for any help/feedback!

The points are on a Google spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p_YVV17l0yCWUPibmse4HA7EbUkKr1NrUcXyOAbLiVs/edit#gid=0).

Lastly, here are a few things to keep in mind as you look through the numbers:

We're trying to minimize changes to the rule, and will trying to play as written as much as possible.

Currently the points do not reflect summoning, so for the time being we're pretending summoning doesn't exist. But hopefully we'll get that part updated and fixed.

We do have one house rule, which is special characters are unique, meaning only one Malekith or Karl Franz.

My game group and I have recently started playing AoS, and have been bouncing around between all the different point/comps that's been published so far. For one reason or another, mostly due to ranged units being too cheap, we've never settled on one that works for us; so we decided to create our own. This point system will be based on almost all on pure math, where we enter the base stats on a spreadsheet and a formula spits out a value. But there are 2 problems.

The first problem is the formulas gets convoluted when layers upon layers are added to determine a "fair" value. And in most cases it's difficult to say if the formula itself is an accurate measure of a unit's value in the first place. ***I will update this thread with the formula and an explanation later when I get home***

The second problem is that the special rules are not easily quantified, which mean judgement calls, which means bias and skewed numbers.

So the idea here is to post the numbers, and if anyone cares to look through them (or better yet play test them) and provide feedback. Any feedback is welcome, good or bad; and any details of why you think the points are wrong would be great. Please keep in mind this is still a work in progress, and missing about half of the armies. It also doesn't look very pretty as the focus is on getting the point values to a good place. Thanks in advance for any help/feedback!

The points are on a Google spreadsheet here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p_YVV17l0yCWUPibmse4HA7EbUkKr1NrUcXyOAbLiVs/edit#gid=0).

Lastly, here are a few things to keep in mind as you look through the numbers:

We're trying to minimize changes to the rule, and will trying to play as written as much as possible.

Currently the points do not reflect summoning, so for the time being we're pretending summoning doesn't exist. But hopefully we'll get that part updated and fixed.

We do have one house rule, which is special characters are unique, meaning only one Malekith or Karl Franz.