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Shuya
16-06-2005, 20:19
Basicly this is a short question, should i use a all comon goblin force, a all night goblin force or a mix of both and why?

Ribbo
16-06-2005, 20:24
Well if i was you, i would have just an all night gobblin army, it's what i did and it worked, not only is it very affective, its very fun to paint, build, and play with. It's so random, i use many squigs 'cos there cool, but i like my fruit 'n vegetable squigs...as you can see theres alot you can do with them, however i have used some chariots, just converted them abit to make them look like night gobblin, squig charriots. :p

strv
16-06-2005, 20:31
I would and i do use a mix of both.
the main reason is that you can have all the good units from both lists as
wolfriders,wolf chariots,all common war machines,fanatics and squigs.
You can also use higher leadership of the common warbosses,and use the mushrooms of the night shamans.
And also you can get a little variety in the painting,not much but not always the same pieces of plastic.

Ribbo
16-06-2005, 20:34
Yeah, and whats good about all hero's gobblin every 1000 pts you can have an extra boss if you wish.
What kind of magic weopan/talismens etc... do you find are a good combination?
Personaly i like 'nibblers itty ring'

Darmort
16-06-2005, 21:11
I'd use a mix of both, for it makes a tactical variety, and for painting fun, chance for multiple convertion styles, and, mostly, Wolf Riders, Wolf Chariots, and Fanatics in one army is fun.

Brett E.
16-06-2005, 21:24
Wolfriders! Wolfriders! Wolfriders!

No goblin army should take the field without a ton of these guys. As fast cav they can wreak havoc with the enemy battle line and you can take enough units so that you'll be able to outmaneuver the foe. Or give 'em light armor and ranks for medium cav. Through in some wolf chariots and you've got one mean, green army.

However, the randomness of night goblin wackiness can mess with such a fragile, movement dependent force. It depends on what you want. I'd go for an all normal goblin horde, but if you want the wackiness, then go heavy on night goblins but still through in a few wolfrider units. You won't regret it!

strv
16-06-2005, 21:33
What kind of magic weopan/talismens etc... do you find are a good combination?
Personaly i like 'nibblers itty ring'

Well nibblas ittie ring,dittos doubles and magical mushrooms on a night greatshaman in a a unit of 40 nightgoblins with 3 fanatics.
3 headbuts in a row or 2 warpaths and one head but agaist a enemy wizard so he has to dispell it.
On bosses i go for greatwepeon,talisman and armour.

Artemis_Quinn
17-06-2005, 04:40
I'd say go for some sort of mix so that you don't force yourself to exclude tactical units from the army because you're going for some kind of theme...... I would say different if the 2 goblin statlines (night and common) were any different, but they're not, as are their weapons selections (except the night goblins have more options as far as equipment and upgrades goes). Personally, I'd go with wolf riders, shamans, night goblins, and a few spear chukkas. This gives you speed, numbers, artiillery, magic, and the element of surprise and trickery all in one force. I seriously can't imagine a goblin force without night goblins because I would feild sooo many 30 man units , some with, and some without, fanatics to keep my opponent guessing. So one game play with all units with fanatics, next game play with none, after that make all of the units on the right side of your battle line have them, and then sometimes even make every other unit have some..... This is always fun, it keeps opponents guessing and makes them doubt charges over nothing, just make sure to keep measuring the distance to his units for the night goblins you aren't charging with, make him think you have fanatics.

I'm sorry, I'd be the worst goblin player ever!

Darmort
17-06-2005, 09:36
Let's see, a Goblin Boss should have something to protect him, if that's possible from today's cheese fest "Great-Weapon's-Are-The-Best-Weapons-Ever!!11!-Lololololol." Personally, a Hand Weapon, Shield and Light Armour is going to see a cheap Goblin Hero through.

Rock Lobbas, Spear Chukkas and Doom Drivers are all good at killing things, like Knights, Great Weapon Mounted Heros (That IS cheese! How are you meant to swing one of those fragging things from a horse exactly?!), Great Weapon Wielding Soldiers, Knights, and all of the above.
Never leave home without something to cause Magical Damage, like a Great Night Goblin Shaman with the ability to cast 'Ead Butt and two Warpaths, as forementioned. 'Tis an evil attack, that.
A few units of 30 Night Goblins and one of Common Goblins with Light Armour is a must have, heavily Armoured Goblins and cheap as chips screwballs, as well as an unknown amount of Fanatics, Netters, and evil tricks.

Wolf Riders with Bows and Musicain are the only ranged unit in a Goblin army worth having, unless normal Goblins with Bows with Musicain. Either that or have Wolf Riders with Shields, Spears and Light Armour... Medium Cavalry for under 20 Points? Forget those fragging Silver Helms! Goblin Wolf Riders Rule!

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 15:33
Well nibblas ittie ring,dittos doubles and magical mushrooms on a night greatshaman in a a unit of 40 nightgoblins with 3 fanatics.
3 headbuts in a row or 2 warpaths and one head but agaist a enemy wizard so he has to dispell it.
On bosses i go for greatwepeon,talisman and armour.
yeah there all good! What i hate is that one time i took my shamen out of my unit of night gobbo's ...the 2 fanatics went straight into him...

strv
17-06-2005, 15:44
Just a little bad luck there.Not to little if both fanatics hit him though.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 15:47
Yeah i know lol, and after that he died, casuing my 30 strong night gobbo's to run... they regrouped though...and my spear chucker out bowed a high elf bolt thrower :p

strv
17-06-2005, 16:04
well thats good,my two spearchuckas ain't hiting anything,thinking of putting them out of the list.Or should they stay,might be needing them if facing khorne knights some time.

and to keep on topic,as allready stated keep common goblin inafantry as well as night.4+ save for 3 points is some staying power.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:07
Keep 'em they can come in very handy, with two i put them on either side of my flanks... that way if you see a nice unit of chaos knights, get them through the flank... talking of chaos my night gobblin champion once won a challange between him and a chosen chaos knight champion of slaanesh... i was well pleased lol.

strv
17-06-2005, 16:10
Thanks for the advice.
Realy,how did that happen?

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:12
I don't have the blindest bit of idea how lol, was against my mate in 1000 pts i beilve, if you know nurgle_boy, it was him i did it against lol...well yea basivly...im hitting on 5's and wounding on 6...i rolled like 4 sixes lol to cause to wounds...he rolled a one for his attacks and for his save's lol

Shuya
17-06-2005, 16:14
Right so ive kinda got a list down, but just before i post it, should i not take magic wepons etc for my characters and save the points for more gobbos?

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:17
You need to spend some points on magic items, but to be fair gobblo's are only 2 pts a peice so just dont give all of your charcters items, got any boss' if so only spend like 20 pts on them...spend points on shamen's though, much more usefull than 5 odd extra goblins or so...in my mind anyway.

strv
17-06-2005, 16:23
The bosses are there any way just to boost leadership and hand out mushrooms.but you kould give him something magical if you want.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:26
yea i would use the weopen that gives extra attacks, very usefull against units with 4 str etc...

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:29
As were talking about characters... does anyone have any ideas of how to do a nice night gobblin hero, converted... all my shamen's are classic or specialist models
eg. Gubbinz the jester is one of my shamen, i can't think of any nice models to use as a boss though... any ideas?

strv
17-06-2005, 16:32
Or you could give him one of those swords in the common magictiem list,to give him a extra strenght or a plus in weopen skill,might be usefull agasinst elves or some hitng high weopen skill.


edit, I use a night goblin shaman with the hand holding a head from the common goblin sprue insteed of staff,wich i droped when undercoating it :(

http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload0/goblin-boss.JPG
old bad photo,but there it is,but you maybe allready used the model?

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:33
True true...bonus weop skill is always a bonus.

strv
17-06-2005, 16:39
yes,very true for goblins,check my edit.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:42
Heh, cool. nah i dont use those for shamens...not to fond of them...i try and make all my characters look independant... no offense or anything put im not to keen on the head thing lol...

strv
17-06-2005, 16:50
well you can replace it with something else.
You could use some of the chariother holding the banner,cuting the banner of and replace it with a axe head.they did that creating the blackgobbo,for the us internet page.
can't seem tho find it now.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 16:54
Oh ok cool, you know any nice classic models etc... or specilist like a nice bloodball character? etc...
oh and any ideas on how to convert nice mounted night gobblins? without the use of too many metal's as i don't have all that much money to spend on it. :confused:

strv
17-06-2005, 17:00
no i'm new to warhammer(joined last summer) and i never liked blood bowl,maybe some 40k would suit.

i would go for mixing wolf boys and night goblins,and maybe ad some spiders or and idea i had,
two squigs with some wood betwen them an there legs tied togheter,as in a rope betwen right leg of front squig and right leg on back squig.get it?

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 17:06
Yea the squig thing sounds quite cool, but that would cost quite alot, 7 for 3 squigs or so =/... but yeah seeing as i have recsently found like 30 wolf riders...i kind of want to use those, i should have 40... for reasons you don't want to know... kind of a bet with some one... if i could do a conversion of a wolf 'rider'... but yeah...night gobbo's don't really go with wolfs. do they?

strv
17-06-2005, 17:08
well they could do,paint them white and say they live in the mountains ;)

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 17:09
Lol, could but were would the wolfs be kept? the night gobbo's are in caves most of the time... wolfs need to be out and about :p
But yeah actually could work, but what about converting the riders? how to do that?

strv
17-06-2005, 17:11
found a new one for boss
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=B&Img=11646
with the little guy shaved of and added a axe head, metal ball or hammer
there (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=9947020912306&orignav=13)

strv
17-06-2005, 17:12
Are you good with greenstuff?you cold just take the wolfrider legs and make a easy dress of gs.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 17:14
I'm not that good, but my mate he's wicked at it... he owes me could get him to help i spose... yea thanks alot matey :)

strv
17-06-2005, 17:39
well i wouldn't be that hard,just press out a bit so it's flat then fould it around his leg,easiest would to glue the legs to the horse first.well or you can ask you'r mate.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 17:40
Yea,cool, welcome back from your food :)

strv
17-06-2005, 17:43
thank you,i think we togheter have about 30 posts in this thread,
JOIN IN POPLE!

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 17:43
Yea lol. Great help your being though.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 18:03
Well i'm off to make a cake :p cyas later nice talking :)

strv
17-06-2005, 18:03
edit:yea nice chat.cya!
not shure if you saw my messege conserning a possible to be boss a few posts up,just checking.
I have a feeling this is turning in to a new goblin tactica thread more then ng vs common.
should it stay this way?

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 18:57
Back and im coverd in cake mix, yea lol true true :p

strv
17-06-2005, 19:37
Well i have been gone a while to,
SO a question here,the difference in I betwen common and ng,The night goblins get to attack more often but dose it weight up the better armour save of the comon gobbos?
well i don't think so,but it might.

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 19:41
nah never, who needs armour when you got fanatics :p ng all the way :p in my opinion... hense as i was known as 'the funky white gobbo' that eats 'shrooms... in my local store for a while (nick name ribbo) why not :p and yea ive done most armys and best fun has got to be the ng!

strv
17-06-2005, 19:47
just saw that you had luck with your wolf mounted nightgoblins nurgle boy has taken on the task to sculpt the legs(wonder if he saw this thread)

I'm more into common myself,who need fanatics when they have ermm... shortbnah...rock lobbers!

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 19:50
lol yeah nurgle boy like great mate ... he'll help and yeah, he did lol (read this thread =p, i joined this forum yesturday and he was saying like 40 posts in 2 days!?!, so i showed him this lol.) Yeah i use commen gobbo war machines, couldn't cope without to be honest...but, well i could but thats not the point... there soo cool, wnna make 'em look night gobblin sorta with conversions :p

strv
17-06-2005, 19:54
that is easy just give the crew to Nurgle boy at the same time as the wolfriders,bribe him with cake ;)

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 19:56
Lol, nah he owes me :p wont use cake as a bribe, if he wants any he can have some... if theres any left after me and another mate eat it for his b-day :p

nurgle_boy
17-06-2005, 20:31
did i hear cake?
yeh, ill do the legs for ya, and the plan sounds all fine!
anyway... *nitpick begins* this is a forum, not a chatroom *nitpick ends*

Ribbo
17-06-2005, 20:33
Pfft. :p thanks :)