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Melchor
05-08-2006, 11:47
Hi there, I'm Melchor. You might remember me from such threads as 'Watch Melchor build his Deathwing army' and 'Whirlwind WIP'.

But today I bring you something different. Today I bring you:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/SkullPassBox.jpg
The Battle for Skull Pass!

That's right, I got my grubby little hands on the box and I'm going to paint it before your very eyes! :evilgrin:
I have a deadline for it as well, It has to be finished by the 9th of September. Hopefully before that, as I have to paint other stuff as well.

For starters, some pics of what I have to paint:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/SkullPassDwarfs.jpg
Three regiments of dwarves; 12 Clan Dwarves, 8 Miners, 10 Thunderers, 1 Thane, 1 Slayer and a cannon and it's crew.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/SkullPassGoblins.jpg
Four regiments of Goblins: Two regiments of 20 Speargoblins, 20 Bowgoblins, 10 Spider Riders, 1 Troll, 1 Big Boss and 1 Shaman.

Right, I'm off to spray the lot. Wish me luck!

Inquisitor lorr
05-08-2006, 11:50
:eek: :eek: -you lucky....mumble

How did you get it so early?

Anyway good luck with it,what are you going to paint first?

asmodai_dark86
05-08-2006, 12:28
Tis only a month away - or as the online store puts it:
34:11:31:8
Days until the release of
Warhammer 7th Edition*

I saw a staffer building a set the other day, and whilst there not overly detailed I have to say I'm overall impressed. More impressed then I was with Maccragge - cant wait to see how these turn out

*at the time of posting of course :D

Arcane_Blade
05-08-2006, 14:55
Looking Good Melchor. It was probably obvious, but until now I never realised your title said: Help me I'm Upside down.... Why is your avatar upside down anyway? :confused: :wtf:
Anyway..... Keep up with this, I'd like to see these models painted to see how decent they are.

tzeentchgiant
05-08-2006, 16:02
Good luck Melchor, you lucky s.o.b ;).

I'm looking forward to the next installement.

TG

Wolf Scout Ewan
05-08-2006, 16:04
Are you painting this for a store?

Melchor
05-08-2006, 16:21
Well I got most of it undercoated. I ran out of spraypaint before I could get to the las models, but at least I can get going.

I'm currently painting the first 20 Spear Goblins. The models are VERY good and very easy to paint. After this I'll probably do one of the dwarf regiments for variety.

Expect pics of semi-finished goblins soon. ;)

@Arcane_Blade: It's upside down because I felt like it. No other reason. :D
@Wolf Scout Ewan: Nope, I'm painting it for promotional work for GW.

Luke
05-08-2006, 16:27
The first thing I noticed is your move trays. Thats a damn fine idea Melchor. I may have to steal it :D

Good luck on the paint btw you lucky git.

Melchor
05-08-2006, 16:29
The movement trays are just pieces of sprue stuck to plasticard.
Cheap and effective. And if you flock it like your bases nobody will notice. ;)

tzeentchgiant
05-08-2006, 16:32
Did that base come with the cannon?

And yes, clever idea those movement trays, although it would be foolish to accept all the credit for them ;).

TG

Melchor
05-08-2006, 16:34
Nope, the base is an addition of mine. I dislike models without bases for some reason.
And on the movement trays, I never said it was my idea. ;)

Melchor
05-08-2006, 17:49
And now for the update I promised, I present: Goblins! Yay!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/GoblinSpearmen1WIP1.jpg

My apologies for the extremely sucky pictures. I tried to take better ones but the batteries of my digicam deceided to quit.

I still need to do the banner and the gong, and some touch-ups on the front rankers. And bases of course... *sigh*.

lredman
06-08-2006, 11:26
Looking good so far Melchor, I'd love to get my hands on some of those gobbos early.

Presumably they're the same models as the sprues we've seen for the regiment box?

Inquisitor lorr
06-08-2006, 11:51
Looking good so far Melchor, I'd love to get my hands on some of those gobbos early.

Presumably they're the same models as the sprues we've seen for the regiment box?

Nope-they're one piece models,although they look almost identical to the regiment gobbos and unusually for one piece models look very good and detailed still.

HiredSword.
06-08-2006, 13:06
The skin is looking really good, just wondering if the shields would look better with an ink wash?

Mojaco
06-08-2006, 13:08
Hey, I'm doing the very same as we speak! My deadline is the 19th of august though...
My goblins have more colour in them, but I suppose it's a matter of taste. Are you doing this because you're nice or are you actually gettign something for it? I know I am :) Hell of a lot of work to be doing just for free imo.

Scotia
06-08-2006, 13:19
lookin' good Melchor. Can't wait to see the Dwarfs painted as well.

tzeentchgiant
06-08-2006, 14:51
Great work, but the yellow of the shields could probably do with another lick of paint, to make them as vibrant as all yellows should be. Te green of the skin looks excellent, kudos :).

TG

Melchor
06-08-2006, 16:58
Thanks for the comments guys!

@Iredman: Inquisitor lorr is right, they're single part models but very good ones.

@Hiredsword & TG: I'm probably going to do both. Give the yellow another lick of paint (it's actually bubonic brown ;)), AND throw in an ink wash.
I'll try some (very) thinned down flesh wash, see how that looks.

@Mojaco: What's in it for me you ask? Mainly just that I get the models more than a month early. ;)

HiredSword.
06-08-2006, 18:49
In my experience flesh wash doesn't leave much in the crevasses, it just looks muddy. chestnut brown (thinned down) might work better.

Scorpio
06-08-2006, 18:56
PICS! Lookin good melchor. You got it early? Nice very nice.

-Scorpio

ThousandPlateaus
06-08-2006, 19:46
I love those new spiders - look forward to seeing you paint them.

Quin 242
06-08-2006, 20:03
Noticed you said you were gonna paint up some dwarfs? Lets see how those look?

Melchor
06-08-2006, 21:09
I'm going to paint some dwarfs right after I finish the first regiment of goblins. I'll take some pics tomorrow.

Mojaco
07-08-2006, 10:16
Oo, outrider. So these are actually yours :) That's pretty good.

Melchor
08-08-2006, 19:34
Time for an update!

I managed to get the first regiment of goblins done.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/GoblinSpearmen1Finished.jpg

They're not my best work, but they're not my worst either. Still need to do the movement tray though, but I'll do all of them near the end of the project.

Right now, work commences on the first dwarf models:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/DwarfThunderersWIP1.jpg
Thunderers!

Not too fond of the models. The quality of the sculpts is ok for single piece plastics, but the poses could have been a lot better.
Nonetheless, paint them I shall!

Railgunner
08-08-2006, 19:52
Might i just add the Gobbo's are also alot smaller than the current models. I had a good rummage through the box a week or 2 before even the GW stores got it:D

Railgunner

Melchor
08-08-2006, 20:11
Yup... Quite some difference too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/oldVSnew.jpg

HiredSword.
08-08-2006, 21:09
they're looking good, out of interest what wash did you go for with the shields in the end?

I know this is just nitpicking but i think just adding a few white dots on the mushrooms on the standard would look good.

Melchor
08-08-2006, 21:38
I used Chestnut. It looked better in the end. ;)

de Selby
08-08-2006, 22:12
Great idea for a project log, and very helpful as a preview of the set. This is really a must-buy for me. Is it just me or does the new teeny-weeny goblin look cute next to his larger relative?

The movement trays are also a top idea, whoever thought of it.

Are you going to paint the eyes and teeth on your gobbos? That's always my favourite part... that's when they come alive you know...

PS: on a point of information (not for Melchor): crevasses and crevices are not the same!!!

Melchor
08-08-2006, 22:36
I thought about painting the eyes, but deceided not to bother. You just don't see them when they're on the table-top as they're hidden under the hood.
I did do them on the command group though.

The teeth are painted, it's just hard to see. ;)

HiredSword.
09-08-2006, 15:32
I used Chestnut. It looked better in the end. ;)

:angel: not saying anything

i think the goblins look fine without the eyes painted, i didn't notice initially. Anymore progress?

Melchor
09-08-2006, 16:06
I started work on the dwarves, painted the skin, started painting the beards.

dark angel
13-08-2006, 10:16
looking nice i cant wait to see what the dwarfs turn out like

The boyz
13-08-2006, 11:25
Those Night Goblins are looking very nice Melchor. I might have to copy your idea, for the home made movement trays as well. Looking forward to seeing some more updates, especially the Thunderers.

BlazeXI
18-08-2006, 17:58
Looking very interesting. You must be hard at work, as you have not shown us any updated in 9 days...

Melchor
21-08-2006, 10:38
And I'm sorry about that. :)
Work, music festival and life in general, conspired to slow this project down.

The deadline (september 9) still stands though, so expect to see more soon.

dark angel
21-08-2006, 13:36
looking forward to seeing the finish of this so good luck

BlazeXI
05-09-2006, 17:05
And I'm sorry about that. :)
Work, music festival and life in general, conspired to slow this project down.

The deadline (september 9) still stands though, so expect to see more soon.

We are expecting it very much! Surely there is more to show! i need inspiration for my 2 boxes (3 batches of goblins 1 batch of dwarfs:evilgrin:)

Melchor
05-09-2006, 17:07
I'm nearly done with the lot. I'm currently finishing the last two regiments (goblin archers and spider riders), and then it's odd models (characters, cannon and troll). I'll be posting tonight.

Honestly. ;)

Melchor
05-09-2006, 20:23
Finally! An update!

Sorry to have kept you waiting for so long. I just couldn't be arsed to paint AND take pics as well. Sorry for that.

Anyway, on with the Dwarfs!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/ThunderersFinished.jpg
First of all, the Thunderers. I'm not all that pleased with the paintjob. But it'll have to do. Not too bad for a first time painting dwarfs if I may say so myself...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/WarriorsFinished.jpg
Then the warriors. I don't know why everyone keeps complaining about them! They're certainly not the best models GW has ever produced, but they certainly have made worse models.
They're not bad, especially for models in a starter set.

Melchor
05-09-2006, 20:24
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/MinersFinished.jpg
Ah... The Miners. By far my favourite models in the set. I will have to get some more of these once I get round doing a dwarf army of my own.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/GoblinSpearmen2Finished.jpg
The second regiment of goblins. Need I say more?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/SpiderRidersWIP1.jpg
Ah... Spider Riders. Again, nice models. I deceided to go for retro-red. Nice sculpts. They're still WIP by the way. ;)

I have also been painting a regiment of goblin bowmen, but sadly they deceided they didn't want their pictures taken (ie. I can't seem to get the pic right).

You may have noticed that the bases of the finished models remain to be done. This is because I deceided to do all of them at once to finish the project.
The cannon, heroes and troll will follow in the next few days.

Hope you like!

BlazeXI
05-09-2006, 21:07
It's gettin along pretty nice Melchor!

I plan to do a Night Goblin army, and will have Night Goblin minis from 3 starter sets. Having 3 bowmen regiments is ok with me, but 6 spearmen is definitely too much.So most od them will go for conversions. First idea that came to my mind was to put Night goblin spearmen on the spiders.

So my question to you is if they would fit nicely, or are Night goblins bigger to the forrest ones?
Would I have to chop(NG upper torso to ForrestG legs) and greenstuff to get a natural pose?

Melchor
05-09-2006, 21:11
Scale-wise you're ok. The Night Goblins and the Forest Goblins are the same scale.
The problem is combining the NG's with the FG's. You COULD try chopping the FG's at the torso, and fitting on the NG's torso. The FG's loincloths give you a nice start on the robes.

Be sure to post pics! :)

jullevi
05-09-2006, 22:24
Your dwarf colour scheme makes the models look a lot better than what they look like in 'Eavy Metal piccies, even if the paintjob isn't as smooth. A nice job there, mate.

Melchor
05-09-2006, 22:30
Thanks! I'm quite pleased with the scheme as well. It's very easy, and gives a good result in little time.
I'm going to use it on my own Dwarfs as well when I get do them.

Quin 242
06-09-2006, 01:16
Your dwarf colour scheme makes the models look a lot better than what they look like in 'Eavy Metal piccies, even if the paintjob isn't as smooth. A nice job there, mate.

Uhm.. not to be mean but do you all remember the Flintstones episodes where Fred and Barney were part of the Grand Order of Waterbuffalo?

Those helmets are dead ringers to those hats they had to wear :)

Who is your Grand PooBah?

PariahMagnus
06-09-2006, 02:27
Uhm.. not to be mean but do you all remember the Flintstones episodes where Fred and Barney were part of the Grand Order of Waterbuffalo?

Those helmets are dead ringers to those hats they had to wear :)

Who is your Grand PooBah?
ummm... what?



Anyway I'm liking the above par table top quality on all of these models. What are you planning for the bases?

Quin 242
06-09-2006, 04:33
ummm... what?


You never heard of the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes???!!??
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/fraternities/buffaloes.html

Check the cool hat :)

now go download some episodes of the Flintstones!!

Quin 242
06-09-2006, 04:44
Sorry.. double post...

de Selby
06-09-2006, 11:16
I have no recollection of the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes, but I agree that the colour scheme looks better than the Eavy Metal version. I may steal it :D

Nice work!

lord_blackfang
06-09-2006, 15:36
Great thread! You've proven that mediocre sculpts can look perfectly fine with a good paintjob.

BfSP? I'll take two, please :D

Kyte
06-09-2006, 16:22
one question: What base size are Spider Riders? Normal Cavalry size?

- Kyte

Melchor
06-09-2006, 16:36
Yup... All the bases are the normal sizes for the models.

Ethereal
06-09-2006, 16:39
which do you think i should buy: skull pass or the 7th edition rulebook. I dont collect dwarves or night goblins and i have a lot to paint at the moment.

Melchor
06-09-2006, 16:50
If you do not want any extra (free) goblins or dwarves, get the rulebook. I said free minis because BFSP costs the same as a stand-alone rulebook (at least it does over here)!

If you want the extras the big rulebook has (hobby section, extra art etc) get the stand-alone rulebook. I will get it as well eventually.

god octo
06-09-2006, 17:34
the models in BfSP look quite good once a good painter has given them the once over- i must commend you on the gobbos, they look both run down and mischevious:D

Endemion
06-09-2006, 18:26
Great work! Having held the free dwarf from WD, I didn't think yhey could be made to look good, but you've managed it. I particularly like the colour of the spiders, very evil loking.

Quin 242
06-09-2006, 18:34
And I'm sorry about that. :)
Work, music festival and life in general, conspired to slow this project down.

The deadline (september 9) still stands though, so expect to see more soon.

They are looking very cool tho.. can't wait to see what you do with all the little extra bitz that come in there.

Melchor
06-09-2006, 18:37
Thanks mate! Sadly, there will be no painting or pics tonight.
Another intervention of life you see. ;)

More painting tomorrow, pics will follow.

Gadicitus
06-09-2006, 21:27
Can you tell me what colors you used for the blue on the dwarfs? I'm thinking a halved scheme too - but I was going to go with white/green - but your white/blue looks particularly nice

Melchor
07-09-2006, 15:05
Thanks mate! The blue is Regal Blue, with some Bleached Bone thrown in for highlights.

Melchor
08-09-2006, 23:19
It's done!
I've worked hard to get it done in time, and I did it! I even have some time left to get some sleep!

But I figured you guys would like some proof of my claims, so I took these (blurry/crappy) pictures:

The Evil guys:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished3.jpg

Melchor
08-09-2006, 23:22
The Good Guys:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished7.jpg

And some other stuff:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v150/Pea_666/Warhammer%20Fantasy/Battle%20For%20Skull%20Pass/Finished8.jpg

Well... that's about it. I hope you like what you see... I know I do.
There's nothing quite like looking at a whole bunch of finished miniatures.

The next project is already lurking around the corner though. I need to get the Battle For Macragge finished by saturday next week...

*faints*

Steel_Legion
09-09-2006, 09:00
all finished for release day (UK) well done, its all looking really good, :D

HiredSword.
09-09-2006, 19:09
wow, it looks really nice although i think the bad moon totem and the banner for the archers could do with a bit more shading. But i really like how great everything looks (that's a really nice colour scheme for the dwarfs btw).

Another project? sounds good.

Brush your teeth
09-09-2006, 20:16
looking good, and good luck with the next project

dave is the best
20-09-2006, 19:49
how did you paint the goblin skin

WillFightForFood
20-09-2006, 20:25
What's your paint scheme on the bases?