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Inquisitor lorr
05-08-2006, 19:13
Hi ,i'm thinking about doing a whole army of deathwatch and just had a few questions:

1-Do the Deathwatch have terminators?
2-If they do have terminators do they have the deathwatch shoulder pad?
3-Besides Inquisitors who would lead them in battle?
4-What access to vehicles do they have?e.g dreads?
5-Do they always show their original chapter insignia?(cos i'm not sure how loads of them with different badges will look)


Thanks in advance
Dan

Brotherdraagor
05-08-2006, 19:28
Righty:

1: yes Deathwatch can and do have terminators. My local store (Meadowhall, sheffield) had them on the Cities of Death demo game alongside some Ultras and Black Templars.

2: I'd assume so. Unless you're asking whether Deathwatch have terminators specifically made and sold for them, to which the answer is no. From a fluff perspective however, yes they do have the Deathwatch pad.

3: Inquisitors requisition their services and will lead them in battle sometimes, other times it's generally a Captain or Librarian.

4: Erm...not exactly sure I'm afraid. I supose if Grey Kights have Dreads Deathwatch will as well. They might have them on loan from other Chapters along with the troops and what not.

5: Yes, in all Deathwatch sources I've seen (which is admitadly, very few) they show their insignia. Remember they're only with the Deathwatch for a short amount of service, so getting rid of all their insignia would be wasteful and against the honour of their original chapter...or something similar.

Knightmare
05-08-2006, 19:34
1-I believe they wouldn't. Not only because TDA is holy relics to their respective Chapters, but because TDA is "too specialised" IMO. I think a Kill-Team wearing artificer armor is much more feasable.

2-See above.

3-Deathwatch veterans bearing the title of Captain. Also Librarians.

4-As cool as a DW Dread would be,I say no-go.Same reason as for the TDA. Rhinos,Drop Pods and Landspeeders I can see.
See?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Danek1354/PurgeOneCompleted.jpg
:)

5-Absolutely.It would dishonor the spirit of the armor as well as their parent chapter to completely paint and modify it.
Plus,it gives the Kill-Teams character.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Danek1354/Kill-TeamAlphaOverhead.jpg

Wonderdog
05-08-2006, 19:50
1. & 2. The Terminator box set has a deathwatch shoulderpad - so errr. yes.

3. Any rank of marine can join the deathwatch - chaplians, librarians, captians etc.

4. I Presume any vehicle can be attached to the Deathwatch.

5. I'd imagine so.

My advice on creaing a deathwatch army is to Use a std marine army with e the "suffer not the alien to live" . "flesh over steel" and the one that gives them true grit doctrines.

t-tauri
05-08-2006, 20:23
Hi ,i'm thinking about doing a whole army of deathwatch and just had a few questions:

1-Do the Deathwatch have terminators?Aside from the termie pad there is no direct evidence of termies. Some say the pad is a generic Inquisition pad for Inquisitors in termie armour. I personally believe they would have terminator suits because if Inquisitors can get them so can the Inquisitions top troops. Some may come from Marines on permanent secondment to the Deathwatch, others from deals -send Brother Fang with his termie suit, we'll give you a new suit from our stockpile and when Brother Fang returns you keep both suits.

2-If they do have terminators do they have the deathwatch shoulder pad?There's a plastic one on the termie sprue. If not identical to the metal power armour pad, it's close enough for me.

3-Besides Inquisitors who would lead them in battle?Captains, Librarians, Veteran Sergeants, other marine ranks.

4-What access to vehicles do they have?e.g dreads?I think there may be a very few dreads of Marines who have stayed in the Deathwatch after their chapter died out or who performed exceptional service to the Deathwatch. Being made into a Dread is a bit like winning the Victoria Cross. Given the close relationships with some chapters and the AM it's not impossible. Otherwise whatever vehicles are available to a powerful and secretive Imperial organisation. So probably all of them, plus a few that haven't entered common service like AM discoveries or Alien based techs. Grav rhinos?

5-Do they always show their original chapter insignia?(cos i'm not sure how loads of them with different badges will look) Generally the black with a lot of different chapter insignia looks very cool.

Knightmare
05-08-2006, 21:13
1. & 2. The Terminator box set has a deathwatch shoulderpad - so errr. yes.

Wrong. The "DW Icon" is the Inquisitorial =][= and Skull with crossbones and a gem within the left eye socket. This is evident in IA, various artwork, the Inquisitor-line Brother-Captain Artemis as well as the 40K DW shoulderpads(plastic and pewter). The Inquisitorial shoulderpad on the termie sprue is just that, an Inquisitorial shoulderpad. Very helpful in converting an Inquisitor in TDA.

Inquisitor lorr
05-08-2006, 21:58
Thanks to all of you ,i got everything i need(and more:D ).I think i'll try the army,although i hate painting black-:p

sulla
06-08-2006, 03:07
Thanks to all of you ,i got everything i need(and more:D ).I think i'll try the army,although i hate painting black-:p

Why not play a chapter yopu'd prefer to paint and add a deathwatch kill-team to lead it? That way, you can have all the space marine choices you want plus the deathwatch kill team...

Sulla

starlight
06-08-2006, 04:04
Now you lot have me wanting to do a *Deathwatch* Company for my DIY Chapter.

Stop it, stop it I say!:(

Son of the Lion
06-08-2006, 07:47
Quick point for who-ever was pooing the idea of TDA deathwatch - admittedly there is no canon mention as yet, but that doesn't mean it's not possible. And besides, hasn't TDA alway been associated to some extent with splatting genestealers (ie original spacehulk)? Wouldn't it make sense for a chapter entirely devoted to murderising dangerous xenos to have at least a few of the walking tanks knocking around for close quarters carnage?

P.S. Ditto for the Dreads. Though they would certainly be on loan, IMO.

Gaebriel
06-08-2006, 08:37
I don't think Deathwatch regularly uses heavy gear as Tactical dreadnought armour or Dreadnoughts. Not regularly as in Deathwatch are more of the commando kind : fast in - unseen - fast out.

However that does not mean you couldn't use Terminators or Dreads for your personal vision. There may be a couple of Terminator suits on call in case Ordo Xenos needs them and no friendly chapter is handy, as well as there may be an extremely dedicated Deathwatch member (probably from a wiped out chapter), who nearly died in heroic service to Ordo Xenos and was revived as a Dreadnought.

So while I would not say Deathwatch drowns in heavy equipment, they surely know where to get it.

A last reminder : Deathwatch is not a "chapter" - they lack the overall numbers and "packed" organization and are deployed in single squads - it's unlikely (though not unheard of) that more than a couple of Kill teams are deployed together.

Just don't let that anyone stop from building what they want ;)

Kaoslord
06-08-2006, 08:45
I've always thought of Deathwatch as a highly mobile, surgical strike force with specific objectives. For a lot of objectives, they wouldn't need or even want slow moving terminators or Dreadnoughts around. However, I would imagine that when they're needed, like for a clensing assault on a Space Hulk or something similar, they could be made availible. I would assume that there are many First Company Vetrans and Dreadnoughts around with fond memories of DeathWatch service, who proudly wear the "I served the Inquisition and all I got was this crappy Shoulder Pad" shoulder pad or armor plate, and would happily jump right back in there...

Seleucus
06-08-2006, 14:31
Remember that TDA is more mobile than it looks, and many Xenos hunting is likely to be in space hulks, tunnels etc. for which TDA was designed.

I am sure they would have suits available as they are financed by the Inquisition who can get what they want!

Seleucus

AmasNagol
06-08-2006, 14:43
The idea of a chapter loaning out a Dreadnought, which is meant to be a living relic of their Legion/Chapter, is a horrible horrible idea.

I sincerely hope they do not have Dreadnoughts and just get access to lots of stuff with suspensor belts in standard Kill Teams.

starlight
06-08-2006, 15:55
While I doubt the Deathwatch would have Dreads *on loan*, it *is* possible that they have had members intered while serving the Deathwatch. Afterall, the resources available to these chaps is pretty much unlimited.

That said, do whatever *you* think is cool.:D

sulla
07-08-2006, 05:47
The idea of a chapter loaning out a Dreadnought, which is meant to be a living relic of their Legion/Chapter, is a horrible horrible idea.

I sincerely hope they do not have Dreadnoughts and just get access to lots of stuff with suspensor belts in standard Kill Teams.

Some marines are permanently seconded to the deathwatch... Who's to say that when one of these marines is critically injured, the deathwatch don't place him in one of their own dreadnoughts? That way, the deathwatch would be able to preserve that marine's great knowledge of alien killing for much longer than his normal lifespan?

Or what about an advanced dreadnought which contained a cockpit for the pilot rather than a sargophagus for a critically injured marine? What if the pilot can hop out of the deathwatch dread and it is in essense just another space marine vehicle used to mount weapon systems too heavy for a standard marine?

There are plenty of possibilities for dreads in the deathwatch.