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cl1668
09-08-2006, 14:38
After playing 40k for a while, me and my brother want to change a game to play.

And so we went for Battlefield gothic.

My brother is solely interested in Imperial fleets. And i am currently favouring eldar fleets or space marine fleets.

So what are the strengths and weakness of them? Can the pros and cons of the equivalent 40k faction be applied onto them as well?

And if we want to start, what models do we have to buy? (Got little money so must buy little at a time)

Thank you!

Jedi152
09-08-2006, 16:49
So what are the strengths and weakness of them? Can the pros and cons of the equivalent 40k faction be applied onto them as well?
Basically, yes - Eldar are very fast, and very maneuverable - and they have holofields, which make them very hard to hit. When you do hit them though, they break apart very easily. SM are good ships, but expensive points wise.

And if we want to start, what models do we have to buy? (Got little money so must buy little at a time)
Can you afford the starter box between you? You get everything you need then - i know it seems a waste when you can get the rulebook for free, but you do get a lot of stuff, inclusing 4 imperial ships and 4 chaos ships.

Thank you?
Thank you. :D

cl1668
10-08-2006, 01:45
Umm, i don't know if i should buy the starter box set though....
It has 4 imperial ships (which suits my bro) and 4 chaos ships (thats a waste!) and it costs 40 pounds (which is approximately $560 to me and my bro) so it is quite expensive.....

One more question: If we want to start buying seperate ships, which ship should i and my bro buy?

Arduhn
10-08-2006, 05:07
Umm, i don't know if i should buy the starter box set though....
It has 4 imperial ships (which suits my bro) and 4 chaos ships (thats a waste!) and it costs 40 pounds (which is approximately $560 to me and my bro) so it is quite expensive.....

One more question: If we want to start buying seperate ships, which ship should i and my bro buy?

$560? is that supposed to be $56? if not, where do you live? that's crazy expensive...In canada it's like $80

Ok, for an Imperial fleet you should probably have at least cruisers; three or four is even better. Next you will need escorts. you should have at least two squads of escorts. I usually do a squad of 5 cobras (love those torpedoes), and 3-5 of either swords or firestorms, or even better, a squad of each.

I don't play eldar and it's been a while since I last played bfg but I would assume that a similar purchase structure would be good, 3 cruisers give or take, and at least two escort squads. do some research into armaments for the cruisers as the type you purchase determines the armaments it comes with (unlike imperial ships which you get plastic kits for and glue on whichever armaments you want and which fit the classes of ships). I recomend at least one ship with launch bays per fleet.

This should give you a good, mid size fleet each. After you have played a few games you should know what you like to use and be able to expand your fleet accordingly.

Getz
10-08-2006, 19:42
Seriously, it's well worth buying the boxed set. Not only do you get a rule book and eight Cruisers, you also get all the little counters you need to play the game, and that is well worth the cost...

As for what to build.

a good Starting fleet would be

1 Mars Class Battlecruiser
3 Lunar Class Cruisers
6 Sword class Escorts
4 Cobra Class Destroyers

That's the contents of the box set and three blisters of escorts... It could then be bulked out considerably by adding a battleship and an extra cruiser and Battlecruiser

Also, take a look at the Chaos fleet, its actually bloody awesome (had an absolutely brutal Chaos V Chaos game last night against one of my friends...)

fracas
10-08-2006, 20:20
box set is essential and a great buy

ReDavide
10-08-2006, 20:29
And i am currently favouring eldar fleets or space marine fleets.

So what are the strengths and weakness of them?There are three flavors of eldar you can play - Dark, Corsairs, or Craftworld. Which were you thinking of playing?
Pure space marine fleets are pretty boring, since you only have one battleship class & one cruiser class to pick from.

Can the pros and cons of the equivalent 40k faction be applied onto them as well?Sort of. Eldar are expensive & fast. Marines are expensive & hard. But I wouldn't carry the comparison too far. The armies I like to play in BFG tend to be armies that I hate playing in 40k, and vice versa.
One other thing you might want to keep in mind - the fleets you've chosen are some of the less balanced ones out there, in that it's fairly easy to design a list that will kill either of them. Space Marines have a hard time against lances, especially if you go for a budget force with few escorts. And eldar wither so fast in the face of batteries that it's just pathetic. So you might want to be careful of how far your bro can tailor his imperials - it's way easier to make an anti-eldar/marine list than it is to make an anti-imperial one.


And if we want to start, what models do we have to buy? (Got little money so must buy little at a time)I'll second the call for the boxed set. Just don't buy it from the UK store. It's much cheaper at the US store. (40 GBP is way more expensive than 50 USD).

Paint up the chaos cruisers half-decently and they should sell on ebay for about $20 USD. Or your brother can use them as allies in his imperial fleet (rules for this can be found in Armada).

But if you do end up buying your ships separately, and need to stay below 40 GBP total, I'd get the following:
-1 pack of Imperial Cruisers (10 GBP)
-1 Eldar Eclipse Cruiser (10 GBP)
-1 pack Eldar Hemlocks or Nightshades (6 GBP)

That gives you just under 400 points each of eldar & imperial fleet. This is also about the same price as the US store's boxed set, except that the box set gives you twice as many ships. ::hint hint::

Darwin_green
11-08-2006, 23:25
the eldar fleets are basically the same.

I made my dark eldar fleet out of DE jetbikes. So that was my main reason.

universals- fast, and mobile. largely immune to lances and torpedoes but will get owned by gun batteries. Solar Sails can be a boon or a ****, But the sun comes from a random table edged every battle(not every turn). So you have to throw your tactics to the wind.(punnage)

Corsairs- pretty much the vanilla eldar in BFG

Craftworld- has lots of options to customize your fleets but is pretty much the same.

Dark eldar- no solar sails, but almost as fast but more reliable(35-40cm average). good at boarding actions and hit-and-runs.

cl1668
12-08-2006, 13:55
Got another question this time:
I can't seem to find the rules for holofields and weapons in the downloadable rulebook.
Where can i find it? Or i have to but the armada supplement and the boxset as well?

ArtificerArmour
12-08-2006, 18:07
In the eldar raiders ships section of the rule book.