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schoon
11-08-2006, 20:12
Dredging back into the old Adeptus Titanicus days...

Have there been any more recent mention of the Human or Eldar Knight Houses in the newer versions of Epic (or other) fluff, or have they gone the way of the Squats?

Mechanicus
11-08-2006, 20:24
They haven't quite gone the way of the Squats. Not so far as they haven't been officially declared eaten by tyranids. Yet, anyway. :D

They're mentioned in the experimental Titan army list on the SG website, but not past that. I assume that when/if the Adeptus Mechanicus list for Epic:Armageddon is released, they'll have a small amount of fluff at the least. Or possibly at the most, depending on SG.

The link is here (it's 6th from the bottom). (http://www.specialist-games.com/epic/Vault.asp)

schoon
12-08-2006, 21:56
Hmmm, 6th from the bottom doesn't seem to match. Which one of the files is it?

I'd certainly be happy if they stayed in the fluff - they were quite characterful (even if I never did quite buy into the dinosaur bit) - and I really enjoyed some of the models (particularly the Eldar).

Minister
12-08-2006, 23:58
The Knights themselves are also listed in the 13th Black Crusade troop rosters.

Icarus
13-08-2006, 01:40
I think they're in the same category as Harlequins: "Cool stuff we may bring back at some point."

Mechanicus
13-08-2006, 09:16
Oops, sorry! Imperial Knights are 5th from bottom, in the Titan list. Eldar Knights I don't know about.

Dspankdo
13-08-2006, 09:24
I think they're in the same category as Harlequins: "Cool stuff we may bring back at some point."

at some point!!!!!!!!! there coming out in a few months (the harlequins that is);)

Inquisitor S.
13-08-2006, 17:07
Is there actually any known Knight World?

Mechanicus
13-08-2006, 19:18
Not that I know of... There doesn't seem to be anything in Codex Titanicus, so I'd assume that if there were any, they'd be in White Dwarf.

Warden
13-08-2006, 20:29
There is a knight world in a Map in one of the codexes, ill go check through mine to see if i can find it, its near the EoT iirc.

The Judge
13-08-2006, 20:55
The Titan Legion rules certainly have the rules, but no background. How much is out there?

Slazton
13-08-2006, 20:55
I doubt they will surface, but who knows? Fanatic is meant to be bringing back alot of old fluff back into existence, but I have yet to see that happen. Maybe something in Epic will happen? It would be really cool to see them back into existence...but who knows?

As for Squats, they never existed.

GM Lawyers will be knocking on your door in the next day or so to present you the case to having illegal knowledge. Please stand by.

schoon
14-08-2006, 01:01
You can always look at the Planet & System Encyclopedia here (http://www.scholaprogenium.com/planets.html) and search for "knight."

Off the top of my head, I know that Avalane VI was home to a Knight Household.

Promethius
14-08-2006, 08:56
I've always wondered why the Knights haven't been mentioned in more recent fluff, and would love to see a resurgence. I've always assumed that they were on the long list of things which still exist but haven't been mentioned in a long time. When epic 40k came out, titans were never really redone in detail (a shame as they were the most interesting part of epic scale warfare for me) so knights were ignored then also.

ArtificerArmour
14-08-2006, 09:23
What are the knights anyway? Are they just smaller titans that are owned/controlled by certain wealthy and noble households or something?

bertcom1
14-08-2006, 10:58
Knights are walking fighting machines, smaller than Warhound Titans.

Originally designed for chasing and directing the herds of dinosaurs on the Knight Worlds.

The machines are expensive, so owning and riding a Knight is a mark of social status. Rival nobles use the Knights in jousts, using "energy lances".

The Knight worlds occasionally have feuds with each other over the ownership and rustling of dinosaur herds.

Eldar Exodites also settled on some of the Knight Worlds, forming Eldar Knight worlds, and participating in the jousts and dinosaur rustling. The Knight Worlds of humans and Eldar have more in common with each other than with the Imperium or Eldar society.

Dspankdo
14-08-2006, 12:44
so they are worlds with big ass dinosaurs on them?

GodofWarTx
14-08-2006, 19:33
Knights are walking fighting machines, smaller than Warhound Titans.

Originally designed for chasing and directing the herds of dinosaurs on the Knight Worlds.

The machines are expensive, so owning and riding a Knight is a mark of social status. Rival nobles use the Knights in jousts, using "energy lances".

The Knight worlds occasionally have feuds with each other over the ownership and rustling of dinosaur herds.

Eldar Exodites also settled on some of the Knight Worlds, forming Eldar Knight worlds, and participating in the jousts and dinosaur rustling. The Knight Worlds of humans and Eldar have more in common with each other than with the Imperium or Eldar society.

Knight worlds also ring important Forge Worlds, and are there primarily as a defense to the forge world and its owning titan legion from outside threats. The knight worlds are basically vassal states to the forge worlds.

They are VERY feudal in nature, and yes, they have more dealings with eldar on a magnaminous level than just about anyone else.

ArtificerArmour
15-08-2006, 12:21
I can't see that being accepted as canon any more - at least not the Eldar dealings. It smacks of a fantasy world (Blood bowl, anyone?). And are these dinosaurs xeno dinosaurs or actual t-rexs?

bertcom1
15-08-2006, 12:38
Knight worlds also ring important Forge Worlds, and are there primarily as a defense to the forge world and its owning titan legion from outside threats. The knight worlds are basically vassal states to the forge worlds.

They are VERY feudal in nature, and yes, they have more dealings with eldar on a magnaminous level than just about anyone else.

The (small) snippet I have is from the Space Marine rulebook (1991)

The Knight Worlds were settled by Isolationists who travelled to the eastern edge of the galaxy looking for worlds where they could live away from the wars of the rest of the galaxy. They found a group of planets with vast mountains, rolling plains and primeval forests, inhabited by giant reptiles.

It says nothing about Knight worlds being allies or vassals of the Forge Worlds.

It says nothing about Knight worlds being found anywhere other than the Eastern edge of the galaxy.



I can't see that being accepted as canon any more - at least not the Eldar dealings. It smacks of a fantasy world (Blood bowl, anyone?). And are these dinosaurs xeno dinosaurs or actual t-rexs?

It says "Giant reptiles similar to the dinosaurs of earth prehistory"

The Eldar Exodites fled to the eastern edge of the galaxy, where some of them encountered the Knight worlds. Contact and trade between them led to the Eldar Knight Worlds.

The Eldar and Human Knight worlds are great rivals, rustling herds of reptiles by spaceship etc. They have a common attitude to outsiders and value their freedom.

Thats what the Space Marine book has to say.

How to accommodate this with current background?
Easy! Eastern fringe? Tyranids ate them!

Mechanicus
15-08-2006, 13:19
The Forgeworld part comes from Codex Titanicus, which is copyrighted 1994.

It also says that the Knight Worlds helped defend the Forgeworlds from attack from marauding Orks and land hungry Eldar Exodites. The Knights and Mechanicus fought many wars against the Eldar Exodites.

I think it's safe to assume the jousting thing was something that happened exclusively:

a) On the Eastern fringe
b) On very few worlds

And the giant reptile herding, I'm sure would still exist. After all, Grox could be called reptiles (But don't quote me on that), and they might grow to a reasonable size. Either way, it all works.