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Mr.chair
15-08-2006, 19:41
This is my first real post on warseer besides the occasional "ooh and ahh" I give for the other great work I've seen on these forums, so it'll serve a double purpose; to introduce me, and to hopefully give me a little momentum towards some of my projects. I've lurked these parts for some time and you all seem like a very talented and friendly crew. Hopefully some of you will take the time to encourage me along and maybe correct my more obvious errors. That said, nice to meet you!

To the good stuff now! I work part time at a local game store (Evolution Gaming of Eugene Oregon) so as you can imagine I have a fair amount of models...er pieces of models :eyebrows: I collect space marines (gasp!), eldar, IG and vampire counts. I've also dabbled a bit in demon hunters, but don't play them currently. My space marine army is the only one that sees any habitual (ie bi-monthly) painting progress, so logically that ought to be the focus of my first project. But being the complete stonecold badass that I am I scoff at "logic". And for this reason my first activity will be to build a nasty looking veteren squad for my IG.

Why start there? Well, a local game enthusiast has sponsored a painting/modelling contest with a first place prize of $100. My space marines, while possessing a bit of tabletop charm, just aren't up to par for a contest. Yes I can spend some time on a squad and take it above and beyond the rest, but then they'll look funky next to my other units, so that's a no go. IG have the advantage of being almost, if not more, customizable than marines, and have yet to see any paint, so I'll be able to set a high (ie unachievable) standard for their scheme.

What I'm going for in this squad. I find it very hard not to rip off other peoples ideas as they're generally better than mine, so you'll probably see a lot of things that look like poor imitations of previously posted cool conversions. I'll try and add my own inspirations wherever possible. So, theme for my guard in the most broad sense is going to be somehwat modern. GW Imperials tend to almost always be a mixture of high and low tech. Laser guns next to tanks that resemble those we used in WWII. All well and good, but not for me. I am too attached to the idea of bullet casings spitting out of the side of a machine gun to embrace lasers, so my guns should resemble modern rifles as much as possible. For my veteren squad I'd like to a get a semi vietnam war feel. I love the look of those bulky flak vests they wore. Hopefully I'll be able to greenstuff such vests over a standard cadian looking torso. Anyways, I've started laying out the bits I've going to use (mostly a mix of cadian and catachan plastics).

Things to get done:
1) The first project I have is making my girlfriend locate the cord to her digital camera so she can offload some pictures and make space for me.

2) I just moved house and my greenstuff got left in my former refridgerator so I need to pick some up. Unfortunately my work doesn't get any in until friday, so that should be my "go" date.

3) model my little soldiers.

4) paint em up and stick em in the showcase.

Questions? comments? I'm excited, so I'll be happy to answer whatever you have to say. In the mean time, ADIOS MUCHACHOS!

Mr.chair
16-08-2006, 00:14
ZOMGZ! The cord has been located! I'll try and take a couple pics of some of my more interesting past projects to try and inspire people to follow this thread. Probably get them up tomorrow.

chuckyhol
16-08-2006, 12:22
Whoa! Can't wait to see the cord painted up!

asmodai_dark86
16-08-2006, 15:00
Maybe its the lack of sleep, but for some reason that post tickled me more then it should.

Do you reckon you could do a list of what we can expect to see over the next few weeks/months?

chuckyhol
16-08-2006, 15:05
asmodai, usually I entertain myself with my posts, I never figured anyone else would find them amusing. =)

Chuck

Mr.chair
16-08-2006, 18:18
Hmmm, well, I can hypothesize! 1st off like I said, I'll be hitting them veteren guardsmen pretty hard. After that it'll depend on whether I'm feeling the IG a lot or whether I feel the need to actually paint the rest of my marines so I can have one tabletop worthy army.

What my IG need:
-Infantry, and lots of it. Should be a basic cadian/elysian head cross for these guys. No skirts on the pants either. I don't want anybody getting ideas.
-I have a unit of Ogre(ryns) modelled up quite nicely but they're in need of paint, so that'll be a top priority.
-I also have three tanks modelled by my friend and I that are in need of paint.
-3 squads of kasrkin.
-need to scratch build some better looking chimeras.
-need to paint the cord.
-model some cool roughriders (desert ones are ok but not what I'm going for).

I tend to run grenadiers (mounted of course), lots of roughriders, a couple tanks, and a fair amount of lascannons.

My Space Marines Need:
-a painted bike squad
-two painted tactical squads (fullish)
-a landriader and two rhinos to be assembled and painted.
-5 assault termies painted
-other optional guys of which I have many.

So far painted for my marines I have:
-Librarian on a bike (old and could use a new build/scheme)
-5 metal assault marines
-12 metal scouts
-5 terminators
-termiantor captain
-3 librarians (I can't keep myself from painting the models, they're too cool)
-5ish tactical marines
-one bike
-techmarine


This is kindof an abridged list. I'm splitting in about 15 minutes to go paintball so I didn't have all that much time. My goal for today is to get the camera working and take some pictures of my bit lay out for those guardsmen.

Mr.chair
19-08-2006, 01:21
To my many many loyal fans: It may seem like nothing may be going on in this thread, but gears are turning. Even as we speak my girlfriend (imaginary of course) is putting all the pictures from her digital camera to her computer so that it will have space for me to take some pictures. For now just pretend that my writing is like one of those magic eye patterns and squint really hard at it to try and see the picture within. Will try and have at least one pick up tonight of something...

Mr.chair
19-08-2006, 02:18
Allright, I got the camera to work, kindof, and am therefore also a man of my word, kindof. This really is the first time I've attempted photography of this type (much less any type), and it was very difficult to make the camera focus at such close range. If anyone has any suggestions on how I can improve my picture quality I would much appreciate them. Currently I stuck them in a white box and got a couple of normal light bulbs to shine from each side. uck! Anyways, without further adieu, I give you Ogryns:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-2.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-3.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-4.jpg

These guys were my first real greenstuff project. If the pictures were better you'd be able to see which one was the first guy to get his face and which was the last. They got a lot better the more I practiced. Anyways, The one with the standard is by far my favorite, mostly owing to the fact that I somehow managed to capture a very dopey Ogryn expression on his face. If anyone wants to see more angles give me a shout and I'll see what I can do. In the meantime my life's burning passion will be to locate the manual for this damned camera.

Edit: Trying out the resizing aspect of photobucket. The images seem to resize in my photobucket album but when they get posted they're still absolutely huge. Not sure what to do about that so for now I'm gonna change them to links...

Mr.chair
19-08-2006, 02:20
hmmm. My noobishness is showing. For one thing I didn't realize you couldn't put more than four pics in a post, so here come the rest, and the more obvious mistake is the fact that they're ***** gigantic. I'll see what I can do about that later since I have to split for now. Thanks for looking anyone and everyone.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-5.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-7.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-6.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR.jpg

Bluesabre
19-08-2006, 05:10
ARGHHHH!!!!!! my screen just split its sides trying to squeeze these pics in, make it small, make it small! before we are all squashed by Ogryns runnig wild!!

=)

Still learning
19-08-2006, 06:44
nice GS work but one thing

RESIZE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Unique1
19-08-2006, 09:49
Use photobucket.com it auto re-sizes photos that you upload to reasonable proportions. The ogryns look good though.

Yarick Zan
19-08-2006, 10:00
dude i have atleast a 21 inch screen and i cant fit those in. learn to size your pictures and either use photobucket, or just size them right with the camera the first time.

Mr.chair
19-08-2006, 20:02
Hmmmm there seems to be some kind of crazy trend towards me resizing my pictures. Like all trends, I will brush this one off while scoffing loudly. I'm a warseer trendsetter! You guys are all going to understand how cool huge pictures are any day now when the rest of these forums posters all start to mimic my genius idea. But seriously, I guess I should have titled this picture: "Mr.chair gets taught how to use his computer...ON WARSEER!"

I got some greenstuff today, so I should be able to begin work on my actual project in the next couple of days. Bear with me, my photography/computer skills are somewhat lacking. Anybody with suggestions on how I could improve either, please let me know. I resized all the images on photobucket, but when I post the image tags they still look huge here on the forums. Any idea why that might be?

Mr.chair
20-08-2006, 19:53
First real Pics of progress here. The 1st two show essentially what my "las" guns will look like. I know this pattern isn't unique to me, so thanks to whoever thought it up first, I really like it. As you can see there are a couple different patterns of lasguns I made these from, namely cadian and catachan. Seeing as the squad is a bunch of hard boilded veterens I see minor differences in the gun type to add to squad character rather than draw away from it. The muscled catachan arm will remain bare, but I'm planning on filing down the muscles so that these guys look like real people rather than Arnold squad. The guns should have silencers before too long as well. Last but not least, you'll notice that the Cadian arm is missing its shoulder pad. That'll be a continuing theme as I think they're way too large and consequently look super dumb.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-1.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR.jpg


The second two pictures are of my first veteren. I took cadian heavy weapon legs and filed off the skirt, which interfere with my theme. They'll probaby need a little greenstuff rebuilding but for now they're just filed back to a pants-like shape. The torso is a catachan tank top with the sides cut down so it doesn't have such a giant barel chest. That green worm in the middle is the beginnings of what may at some point be a somewhat decent looking belt...maybe.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-3.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-2.jpg

forgive the dark photos, I was missing one of my lights so one side is somewhat shadowed.

Mr.chair
22-08-2006, 19:43
got some more greenstuffing done today, but it's mostly unimpressive patchwork. I tend to have to cut off a large portion of the but area on the cadian pants when I remove the skirt, so I've been repairing hindquarters all morning. Will post picks when I get something more interesting to look at.

Mr.chair
23-08-2006, 20:36
Some of these guys are starting to come together. I'm not getting many views anyways so I'm just gonna post the pics. Questions are welcome.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-8.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-7.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-9.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-6.jpg

Mr.chair
23-08-2006, 20:37
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-4.jpg

Mr.chair
24-08-2006, 21:16
Got a little more time so I figured I'd explain a bit of what those pictures are about. Progress on those models includes (to varrying degrees) the following modifications. Botts have been given lace holes and tongues, skirts have been shaved off and replaced in the front by pants fly, back of skirt removed and replaced by greenstuff, belt loops added, shoulder pads removed and replaced by greenstuff, backpacks added and bulked out with green stuff, night vision goggle (not sleep mask) base added. The metal model is based off of colonel shafer and will act as the squad sarge. Shafer's head should eventualy find its way on to a storm trooper sargeant.

Arcane_Blade
24-08-2006, 21:29
Loving the look of the work you've done so far! Keep it up, I really want to see the fruits of your labour. ;)

HiredSword.
24-08-2006, 21:35
looking good, i like the feel you're going for so far. Are you going to keep the large cadian helmets?

The sarge is looking good except for the sleeping mask (you got there before i could say it damn it :P)

The bag on the kneeling guard looks a bit too big, but backpacks are a good idea of making them look veteran.

Anyway, like i said, it's all looking really nice. Been a long time since i've seen a really good guard squad.

Mr.chair
25-08-2006, 01:27
Thanks for the comments. No, I'm not planning on using any of the Cadian helmets, they're just too big looking to me. I like the metal Cadian helmets, but I unfortunately don't have the funds to buy those models just to chop off their heads. The rest of this veteren squad should all be bare headed. I took mostly Catachan heads with a few fantasy heads mixed in. One of my main goals for this squad was to avoid any open mouth yelling expressions. The sarge is the one exception, but I explain that away as animated talking since he has that com set at his mouth. With the rest of them I've been greenstuffing their open mouths closed. For my normal troopers I'll probably be using the Elysian heads with respirators. As for his bag, it is a bit big but I think that may be minimized when his arms get added on. I like the idea of these guys living out of their packs too. Part of the largeness might be the helmet strapped on the bag too? I'll post pics with the arms on tomorrow, and a couple other vets who are at a stage where they're photo worthy. Thanks again for the comments!

Mr.chair
26-08-2006, 03:19
Another update here. I took a couple pictures of that veteren with his arms on so you could see if you all still thought the pack was too big.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-12.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-11.jpg

While work still progresses on the rest of them. Here's a couple pics of some progress on previous pics and some as yet unphotographed vets:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-16.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-15.jpg

Mr.chair
26-08-2006, 03:31
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-13.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/project%20for%20warseer/projectMR-14.jpg

Well there was one more picture, but no matter how many times I resize it to be small photobucket makes it appear huge, so it'll have to wait until next time.

Jimbobjeff
26-08-2006, 21:27
liken the big machine gun type thingy, (big shoota?) I may have to add that to my scouts....

Mr.chair
27-08-2006, 03:19
It's actually a heavy stubber stolen from the necromunda range. There are a few different styles, and I chose clan Escher's for mine. In game it'll just represent another autogun, but it looks like the m60 that squads lugged around in vietnam, and that's what counts hehe.

no-use4a-name
27-08-2006, 04:21
I like the way your Vets are progressing. Inspirational stuff for when I hit those creative blocks.

Mr.chair
28-08-2006, 05:03
Thankyou, your stuff is looking incredibly nice as well. I really like your paint scheme. Progress here in the form of a couple more vets that haven't seen the light of forums until now. They're all getting close to done. My goal is to be doing bases by Friday. Than paint and they should be ready for the competition.

Vet 1
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-17.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-16.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-15.jpg
Vet 2
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-14.jpg

Mr.chair
28-08-2006, 05:05
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-13.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-12.jpg
Vet 3
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-11.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-10.jpg

I know the photos are about C-, so, as usual, if you have questions about anything, just ask!

HiredSword.
28-08-2006, 11:52
I'm loving the guy with the big autogun :)

I'm still seeing sleeping masks, but i'm sure you're paint scheme will cover that. Also, the last guy's arms look too low down from the shoulder.

Apart from that, just keep em coming. It's becoming a really characterful force.

Mr.chair
28-08-2006, 21:27
yeah, that autogun bit is awsome. Looks the spittin image of a cartoonified M16.

I think part of the reason that vet's shoulders look low is because the back pack straps make his chest appear higher than it is, and his shoulder guards cover up how far the arm really comes. I'll have to check and see if you're right when I get home (currently at work) and if so I'll make sure and fix that right up. Thanks for the tip.

In the mean time, I give you tanks! This first one was made for me by my friend Nate:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-19.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-18.jpg
which inspired my own attempt:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-21.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-22.jpg
which in turn inspired me to go back to Nate:
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-25.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-24.jpg

HiredSword.
28-08-2006, 22:05
i think his right shoulder could be a tiiiny bit higher.

Like the tanks btw, although the turrets look a bit too big imo but that doesn't mean they look wrong.

Try putting some guardsmen on the top of the tanks as if they were hitching a ride.

Wolf Scout Ewan
28-08-2006, 23:17
I love your tanks!

Those guardsmen show what you can accomplish with patience, skill some imagination. They look like they are modelled on real guys!

Mr.chair
28-08-2006, 23:58
Thanks for the kind comments guys. the sleep masks will have plasticard tubing coming out to look like night vision, but I don't currently have the right thickness, so I have to go to the hobby shop. Tonight is roleplaying night, which means "paint my models and try not to ignore the progress of the game" night. I have some kasrkin I'm painting up to test out my armies paint scheme, and i'm going to try and work on them. If they get anywhere interesting I'll show some pics of them tonight or tomorrow. Thanks again!

Mr.chair
29-08-2006, 22:09
Well, I didn't progress my kasrkin far enough to be worthy of a photo, so I decided to take a picture of my test-test scheme. The actual kasrkin should look similar to this guy but their armor will be grey, and their visors and jazz will be in green. I also may slightly modify the camo patches on their fatigues as I'm not entirely satisfied with how they came out. Comments? Questions?

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-26.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-27.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-28.jpg

P.S. going to see about getting a "natural light" bulb so that photos of painted models look a bit better.

Mr.chair
29-08-2006, 22:12
You were right, the right arm is definately lower, but it's a difficult fix. I may try and move the left arm down instead so that they're at least balanced and see if that helps his look at all. Thanks for the tip.

HiredSword.
29-08-2006, 22:48
no worries, i'm just surprised i got something right lol.

I have a few things to say about your colour scheme;

1. i think the bright green, yellow and reds don't work well at all. Your models are battle scarred veterans and you should choose your scheme with this in mind. If they were space marines i would have less of a problem with this.

2. Try looking at some of that red camouflage pattern, it would be really unique to see this done on guardsmen (i've seen snow, jungle, desert but never red rock fatigues)

What i would do is perhaps use a darker brown/red camouflage for the fatigues keeping the armour the same colour. the visors look fine in green.

just some ideas anyway. I like the freehand btw, very nice.

Mr.chair
31-08-2006, 07:03
Got a quick picture of how the kasrkin are coming along. I'm doing ten of them so they're moving slowly, as you may be able to tell from the white primer still showing in places. Still, I thought I'd post a pic so people could see the general idea. Grey armor will be highlighted up so it won't end up quite this dark. Tubing will be bottom tube red, top either yellow or blue (leaning towards yellow). Eyes and gun sights will be green, and I'm going to attempt to get the green to glow on parts nearby. Fatigues will be the same desert camo (roughly) as in that pic with the red storm trooper. The gun will remain largely the same as well. The Bases will be different as well. They'll be a more natural stone and sand color than the previous red dirt one. I'm thinking burnt out desert city for the bases. As per your advice, hired sword, I'm going to try and make the tubing colors look a bit less bright this time around.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-31.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-30.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/Mrchair/projectMR-29.jpg

This is whole paint project isn't just serving to test the scheme. Green stuff can be a bit frustrating so I'm using it as a diversion. I'm going to see about doing the bases tomorrow, and then after that, one last greenstuff push and the actual veterens should be ready for paint.

Taarnak
27-09-2007, 00:10
Wow! Really like the Ogryn alot.

The vets are shaping up nicely.

Another thing you can try for pictures (and I honestly don't know if it was mentioned before; but I didn't see it.): take them outside and shoot them in true daylight.

Also, if you have access to a photo-editing software, adjusting the white balance will help too.

~Eric

Novogord_Vivendi
27-09-2007, 06:37
Lovely green stuff work. Really like it.
That last tank reminds me of the russian KV2, who also had a very big turret.