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Rhamag
21-08-2006, 14:52
Just wanted some opinions on a possible army theme I've been musing over.

Has anyone seen a renegade Marine army made from Marines from many different chapters? I was thinking of the renegades in "Dead Sky Black Sun" if anyone's read that. They needn't be chaos-lovers (yet) but just exiles, dissenters, unhinged zealots etc. who have been expelled by their home chapters. I'd probably only have 1 or 2 from each chapter.

They'd need a common piece of "uniform" to tie them together (a shoulder-pad probably), and I was thinking of theming the squads according to the character of the chapter - Blood Angels, Black Templars etc. in assault squads, Imperial Fists etc. in devastator squads.

Any advice, links, photos, comments etc are gratefully accepted. Cheers!

Tonberry
21-08-2006, 14:59
Check out Red Corsairs.

CommunistBrother
21-08-2006, 15:05
Red Corsairs are just one renegade marine chapter. WHile it's not the most original idea, it makes for an interesting army none the less.

The fluff around the Maelstorm(sp?) also talks about pirates and renegade marines using it as a staging ground for raids.

Rhamag
21-08-2006, 15:18
I guess what I was getting at was this:

Would an army made of models painted in lots of different chapter colours look good on a battlefield? Or would it just look like the Index Astartes had "come to life" (i.e. a total mess of random marines)?

Kymar
21-08-2006, 15:24
I think it would look like random marines unless there you can clearly show a reason why the would not choose a uniform colour. Perhaps if they're all zombies? Perhaps they're all possessed? Perhaps they're so terribly battle damaged that they don't have time for repairs, let alone to repaint (13th company spacewolves are sort of like that).

Promethius
21-08-2006, 15:27
My Alpha Legion army features several marines painted in different colours (representing their tactic of using enemy colours to disorientate and insult their opponents), and I have found that it doesn't look too bad as long as you have a bout a maximum of every one in five marines. Personally, I would go for Red Corsairs, using the standard Astral Claws base scheme (or another if you prefer) and add marines in different colours in a similar fashion (so a tactical squad of ten corsairs might include three cross-dressers, as it were).

But whatever looks good to you, really!

brother_fandango
21-08-2006, 15:29
my opinion....
id make up a colour scheme for the army, unifing them all, and paint possiblly their shoulder pads and helmets from different chapters. maybe a standard bearer for each squad, incorporating it's chapter logo, along with the "renegade" chapter's logo.
i do agree, just having a bunch of different chapter marines would look like a 7-year old went wild with his paints.

-The Brother

VetSgtNamaan
21-08-2006, 16:45
I did a outcast army based on a newly founded succesor chapter of ultramarines. They tended to have to field repair everything so much of thier original colour scheme was lost as they striped parts from thier fallen foes and patchworked it onto themselves and thier vehicles.

Khaine's Messenger
21-08-2006, 17:01
Has anyone seen a renegade Marine army made from Marines from many different chapters?

Seen one? As in, personally? No, not really. The only mention offhand I've ever even heard about it is in crusade forces (loyalists) or the Red Corsairs. And Uriel's wee band, of course....


They'd need a common piece of "uniform" to tie them together

Well, the best way to do it would be to get a uniform tone--all the colors complement one another and do not vary too extremely in more qualitative aspects (eg, brightness/darkness). After that, it's all Skittles and M&Ms. And I would insist on trying to find some other way to group them or simply assume a speciality than by chapter.

BrainFireBob
21-08-2006, 19:13
Red Corsairs look fair on the table.

A Marine Crusading force, with each squad from a different Chapter with a somewhat different loadout, looks OK.

Asuril
21-08-2006, 20:18
Hahaha... I can totally imagine an emo army of gothy Space Marine outcasts. Each has their own unique style and look... Brother Darque has dyed black hair and wears blue eye shadow, Brother Blaque has dyed blue hair and black eye shadow. Forced to band together because no one else understands them. Forced to live in this dark black horrible world of darkness, where their Chaplain won't let them drive the rhino, and they don't get to use the plasma gun cos their Sergeant says it's dangerous.

They'll all brooding anti-heroes, but one day they'll save the imperium of man.

Oh man, priceless.


Btw- go with something along the lines of the 13th Company. They look rag-tag, but are still uniformed. And also, don't go the Emo Gothy route, please.

BrainFireBob
21-08-2006, 20:20
I get it! That's why the Emperor's Children use sonic weaponry!

Rhamag
21-08-2006, 23:28
I think I'm going to go for Plan B:

The tattered remnants of 3 specialist chapters band together for common survival, advised/led by an Inquisitor Lord with some stormtroopers for cannon fodder.

The colours and chapter themes are hopefully complimentary:

Chapter X (assault specialists) - Black/Red
Chapter Y (tech/shooty specialists) - Red/Silver
Chapter Z (scouts/infiltrators/librarians) - Grey/Black

Thanks for the posts, guys.

Gen_eV
21-08-2006, 23:33
That's definitely the way to do it. Keep a uniform palette of colours, just vary the 'pattern', and give each bunch of guys their own Chapter Icon. I'm now tempted by the idea of a mixed Unforgiven 'Deathwing' force, one squad from each of the main DA successors.

If you had completely different colours, I believe the term 'explosion in a paint factory' would be of particular relevance'.

Krypt
22-08-2006, 12:22
It's a good idea, I myself have read Dead Sky Black Sun, great book and it would be very good if you reflected the marines from the novel onto a real-life wargaming tabletop. I guess you'd have to file off most/all of the Chapter insignia for each marine involved if they have any, as they have been banished from their Chapter and do not reflect Chapter markings. A shoulder-pad idea is good, but it would have to be a crude marking of some sort, messed up/damaged to show that it hasn't been done by time and effort from Techpriests/Techmarines in the Chapter, it has been done by the marines themselves and as they are in a constant battle for honour, death oath etc, it isn't exactly a masterpiece. I'd look forward to seeing this army on the battlefield, make them look different but the same (insignia of renegades etc) and obviously make them scratched and damaged. Cool idea, good luck with it.

Chaplin Loki
22-08-2006, 13:43
I toyed with doing something somewhat similar; I wanted to do a "Coalition of the willing" for the medusa campaign. Do an army with a bunch of small squads from different chapters. A shoulder pad or perhaps even a smaller marking like a knee or leg plate can tie the army together. Though if your going for a black sun, dead sky kind of feel, donít do any markings, just make them have a lot of dirt/battle damage.

Moriarty
22-08-2006, 22:53
Hi there,

may be too late, but I've seen marines painted in various chapter colours on e-bay, with 'Penitent' on a scroll painted over thir right shoulder pad. Looks as if someone wanted a Penitents chapter, but lost interest. You could try something similar?

My DIY 'Penitents' company have scrubbed their armour of all colours/markings, leaving the base metal showing, as a sign of their lowered status. i'm considering shoulder pad chapter markings on sergeants to show their 'trustee' status.

Cheers,