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Gaebriel
21-08-2006, 15:10
Okay, question time. In the BGB, on the picture showing Space Marines (captioned Adeptus Astartes, unnumbered pages, around 18th page of the book) on the left side there is a big something hanging in the sky - I link to the relevant part of the pic here on GW Spain (http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer40k/razas/marines/images/galeria/img04_010.jpg).

By my best efforts I can't make out what this is supposed to be. Anyone with a better grasp, inside knowledge, or ideas?

Sojourner
21-08-2006, 15:13
Could be Phalanx, or a Terran Sky Fortress, or a random unnamed flying monstrosity.

It isn't likely to be a space marine warship, at any rate. There's nothing in the background that implies they can do that.

malika
21-08-2006, 15:14
I think its a bit of artistic freedom...

Xisor
21-08-2006, 15:33
I think it's a case of 'Captain Critic Shoul do his research...'

From Page 23 of Armada

Like battlebarges, strike cruisers do not represent a single class of vessel, or
specific configurations of weapons and systems, but rather represent a
broad range of different Space Marine vessels used for largely similar tasks.
Strike cruisers, first and foremost, need to be swift vessels, with a
substantial transport capacity and various means of delivering those troops
(be that a mixture of teleporters, drop pods or launch bays equipped with
Thunderhawks). Within these parameters, strike cruisers can, and do, take
a variety of forms.

There, you have your answer: Yes, it looks like it could very well be a Strike Cruiser, or indeed a Battlebarge! We can only see what we assume to be the bottom of it though...

Xisor

bertcom1
21-08-2006, 15:38
If it is a SM capital ship, it is insanely close to the ground.

Doesn't matter that Battlebarges or Strike Cruisers vary in configuration, they should not be hovering at 3km above the ground.

Xisor
21-08-2006, 15:55
If it is a SM capital ship, it is insanely close to the ground.

Doesn't matter that Battlebarges or Strike Cruisers vary in configuration, they should not be hovering at 3km above the ground.

Who said it's hovering? Perhaps it's crashing, or landing, or taking off?

<That's also resisting the urge to say: "The ship is too close to the ground, but the Marines have immovable chest cavities which'd make breathing night-impossible...or are genetically engineered superhumans to start with...etc?" :p >

Gaebriel
21-08-2006, 16:01
Then it's probably a Strike Crusier painted with artistic freedom :p

Sai-Lauren
21-08-2006, 16:01
Well, it seems to have the keel fin of the Imperial Navy vessels (esp the cruisers), so it could be a navy escort vessel, or something like a troop transporter, coming in to land.


they should not be hovering at 3km above the ground.
Ah, would that be hovering in the same way that bricks don't? :D

Xisor, I'm trying to resist that urge as well ;)

bertcom1
21-08-2006, 16:13
BFG says nothing about cruiser sized ships being able to land. Only escorts or transports may land on planets.

So, I still say it is insanely close to the surface if it is a BB or SC.

And it is clearly hovering because there are no whoosh lines to indicate movement. :p

jimbobodoll
21-08-2006, 16:22
Why can't the planet be low grav? Why can't the planet also have 0 atmosphere? Why can't it be a post tyranid stripped low grav moon with a celestial phenomena in the background?
Anyhooo.......

Minister
21-08-2006, 16:37
Low orbit, for a Terran world, is about 200 km+, not 3 km.

Could easily be an escort, though. Even a heavy landing craft carrying armour, supplies or prefabricated defensive and command structures.

t-tauri
21-08-2006, 16:58
Could be the roof of part of a hive city or the opening to a large hangar bay. Looks too wide to be any kind of space ship which could get that close to a planet without some insane antigravity drive.

SonofUltramar
21-08-2006, 20:53
Doesn't matter that Battlebarges or Strike Cruisers vary in configuration, they should not be hovering at 3km above the ground.

Have you seen a Thunderhawk, since when did aerodynamics or science in any way come into the realm of spaceships in 40K?

Also not the greatest example i know, but in Storm of Iron the Legio Mortis were deployed from ships which landed to let them disembark. No matter how big that SM ship is i'd be willing to bet it isn't as big as a Titan transport which can go from a planets surface to orbit let alone between the stars?

bertcom1
21-08-2006, 22:53
What's your point?

SM ships are not designed for atmospheric operations.

Titan landing ships are.

Minister
22-08-2006, 01:01
Looking at it again, it could well be one of the Thhunderhawk Transports (same as the one further along) viewed from a lot closer in. the spars sticking out may well be the clamps from the main section.

cailus
22-08-2006, 03:19
I'd say it's just some random bit of art.

jimbobodoll
23-08-2006, 00:15
I know what it is. It is one of these:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110301025&orignav=300808

A Space Marine Landing Craft:
"The Space Marine Landing Craft are assault vehicles designed to quickly deliver troops to a planets surface. Within twenty or thirty seconds of leaving their spacecraft, any troops and vehicles will be on the ground and in action."

Job Done. :cool:

Gaebriel
23-08-2006, 07:20
Unlikely - it's too massive for a Landing craft. Also a Landing craft is shown in the background of the right page, and it's nowhere alike...

While we're on Landing craft, the thing - whatever it is - we have in the background of this picture (http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer40k/razas/guardia/images/galeria/img008.jpg) (also in Codex : Imperial Guard, page 12), seems pretty massive as well. Though this clearly is only a couple of meters above ground whereas the one in the Space Marines picture is much higher. So what would this be? An unnamed imperial troop transport I guess... ;)

Revlid
23-08-2006, 07:33
I think the ship in the first pic is definitely part of a strike cruiser, up close to that corner of the picture.

Philip S
23-08-2006, 07:53
Okay, question time. In the BGB, on the picture showing Space Marines (captioned Adeptus Astartes, unnumbered pages, around 18th page of the book) on the left side there is a big something hanging in the sky - I link to the relevant part of the pic here on GW Spain (http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer40k/razas/marines/images/galeria/img04_010.jpg).

By my best efforts I can't make out what this is supposed to be. Anyone with a better grasp, inside knowledge, or ideas?

Thunderhawk Transporter;

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/thawktranport.htm
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/SPACE_MARINE_AIRCRAFT.html

Philip

Sai-Lauren
23-08-2006, 08:04
Philip, we know that's a T-Hawk in the background, it's the huge thing at the top of the picture that the question's being asked about - which is absolutely not a T-Hawk.

It's got a keel fin for starters.;)

Minister
23-08-2006, 09:21
Landing craft rather than a Thunderhawk looks likley, I would think, if one assumes the cabin secion to be just out of the picture.

athamas
23-08-2006, 09:49
the correct term is 'bulk hauler' i believe

they are the general cargo vessals of 40k, that are used to transport large numbers of troops... etc..

bertcom1
23-08-2006, 11:44
While we're on Landing craft, the thing - whatever it is - we have in the background of this picture (http://www.games-workshop.es/warhammer40k/razas/guardia/images/galeria/img008.jpg) (also in Codex : Imperial Guard, page 12), seems pretty massive as well. Though this clearly is only a couple of meters above ground whereas the one in the Space Marines picture is much higher. So what would this be? An unnamed imperial troop transport I guess... ;)

It's some form of Landing Ship, however, it is not levitating. It appears to have a landing strut that you can sort of make out away in the distance, to the left of the officer in the middle of the picture.

There are also what appear to be 4 ramps that have lowered to allow things to disembark.

Chem-Dog
23-08-2006, 11:54
It's worth pointing out that the Chapter shown in the picture are the RavenGuard.

It does appear to be deploying drop pods although there is no definitive way of telling if the cows are very small or a long way away.