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Bubble Ghost
22-06-2005, 12:29
So, anyone else into playing old emulated games on their PC? I ask because I put off getting into it for ages, imagining the horror of messing up installation, faffing about with DOS, downloading from untrustworthy sites, etc.

But the other day I finally bit the bullet... and was astonished at how painless it was. Downloaded a NES emulator in a fraction of a second, and a couple of games for it also in fractions of seconds. It runs in XP, nothing to install, no specialist knowledge needed. And now I'm reliving the glory of River City Ransom, one of the finest beat 'em ups ever to grace a console - a game I thought I'd never get to play again. Inspired by that I went for a SNES emulator as as well. Predictably it took longer to download the games (like two seconds instead of a half a second:D), but it was just as easy. Found a site with a huge store of games, and now I'm going through playing all the stuff I remember seeing and getting excited about in magazines when I was an obsessed teenager (as opposed to an obsessed adult) but thought I'd lost the chance to play. Such as, magically, a fully translated version of Seiken Densetsu 3 - AKA Secret of Mana 2. I'm so happy I might fall over.

Anyway, this is an infomercial and discussion on emulators really, in case you've ever thought about it but never got round to it. It really is that bloody easy. If you want links to emulators and games, I got links. And can anyone recommend any other stuff worth looking out for, emulator-wise?

TenTailedCat
22-06-2005, 12:49
I tried emulation a while back but most emulators are a pain inthe ****. i'd love to know whixh one you managed to lay your grubby little mitts on if it's so easy.

I do play a lot of old games though - XCOM, Civ2, duck hunt, asteroids, pac man - the usual suspects really.

Bubble Ghost
22-06-2005, 13:01
The ones I'm having the most luck with are JNes and ZSNES. You can get both of them from this site (http://www.emulator-zone.com/). The other NES ones I tried were FCE Ultra, which was if anything better than JNes but I can't seem to get it to acknowledge my gamepad, and Nesticle, which just plain didn't work properly. The two I'm using are great so far.

Nazerth
22-06-2005, 18:34
I always used to use SNES9x when emulation was a "big" thing, but now I use ZSNES. It just has better sound emulation, and better and more options. I have not yet found an NES emulator that I like, though I agree with Bubble Ghost on this one and usually use JNes.

Though, lately I haven't been playing my emulated games as much, but rather my real SNES! Though, once I am through with a couple games for the umpteenth time (namely Secret of Mana, FF III [VI], Chrono Trigger and Secret of Evermore) I'll likely open up the emulators again, and get around to finishing Terranigma, Seiken Densetsu 3 and Tales of Phantasia, among others...

x-esiv-4c
22-06-2005, 18:38
I use ZSNES for SNES games and DOSBOX for old PC games like wing-caommander 1 and 2. I continuously play Secret of mana 1 and 2, evermone and Crono trigger all the damn time.

DisruptorX
23-06-2005, 13:03
ZSNES is the finest program out there. It has every feature you can think of, and runs without a hitch.

Wiseman
23-06-2005, 13:24
yep totally agree ZSNES is the best available

x-esiv-4c
23-06-2005, 13:28
"Save state" and "load state" are the greatest things ever in a game like Axelay or R-type...

alterion
23-06-2005, 14:00
what is the leaglity of emulators? hate to sopil the party but i thought they are illegal and so sadly exemted from disscusion

charlie_c67
23-06-2005, 15:59
Well, I believe the rules with regard to data on pc's is that if you own a copy of said game you are allowed to back it up on your pc, if not you're allowed to keep it 24 hours then you must get if off your pc whether that includes burning it onto a cd I don't know but that's the last I understood on the issue.

alterion
23-06-2005, 16:48
yeh it is a bit of a grey area i think.. but IMHO much like abandonware one which i feel is justified.. so long as you are not emulating current gen games i personally have no problem with it.

Nazerth
23-06-2005, 17:28
Well, the games most people emulate are not, and have not been in production or circulation for years. And others have simply never made it to North American/European shores. No one is losing anything, really, except for eBay sellers trying to make money off of classic games, and even then, owning the original cart is more appealing to some old school gamers than just having a file on your PC...

So, in summation, old school game emulation = everybody wins :D:p

Talkie Toaster
23-06-2005, 17:38
The more modern emulation scene doesn't seem as well documented as classic stuff. I've been trying to find an emulator so i can play N64 Perfect Dark again (best-game-ever), but it's a little confusing with regards to windows XP and the like. Anyone know of a decent N64 Emulator?

Bubble Ghost
23-06-2005, 18:39
More modern stuff like Perfect Dark, you shouldn't have that much trouble getting hold of in tangible form - you should be able to get an N64 and games for pocket money these days. It'll work better with a proper N64 controller anyway.

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alterion and Nazerth: likewise. Who is my emulating a 12 year-old SNES game or a 20 year-old arcade game hurting? For example, I've scoured local shops and the internet for a new copy of Street Fighter Alpha 3 for the PS1, but couldn't find one; so I downloaded it for MAME instead. I'd much rather be playing it with a Playstation pad than this PC one, I can hardly do dragon punches with it never mind spinning piledrivers. And where on earth am I going to find a copy of Golden Axe these days? No, I'm comfortable with my legal dubiousness.

charlie_c67
24-06-2005, 10:27
You can buy adapters for your ps1 pad that'll let u use it on the pc.

TenTailedCat
24-06-2005, 10:50
Perfect dark is suprisingly difficult to find. I have a copy for my N64 (Which is still plugged into the tv-set and sees more usage than any of my current gen consoles) but your only real option is eBay. Same with Majoras Mask, which I found a copy of in my local Games Exchange but didn't have any money on me to buy - when I went back with the moolah it was gone.
I cried.

Bubble Ghost
24-06-2005, 11:49
Ugh, I feel your pain. Majora's Mask is a brilliant game.

Another point is that console games seem to look rubbish on computer monitors. Seiken Densetsu 3 looks like it's made of lego. ZSNES has some graphics doohockies that sort this out a bit but it's still no substitute for the real thing on a TV.

TenTailedCat
24-06-2005, 12:49
Does anyone know if Shenmue 2 is available for DC emulators yet?

I had a copy, I love the series but for a reason I can't begin to fathom (temporary insanity?) I exchanged it for a copy of Tench wrath of heaven or something...

When I realised what I had done I tore out my hair and had my girlfriend whip me with barbed wire coated in acid.

Bubble Ghost
25-06-2005, 12:48
Quick update: got FCE Ultra, the NES emulator, to recognise my game pad. This officially makes it better than JNes, which has a few sound reproduction issues.

No idea about Shenmue 2. Did a quick check but couldn't find anything.

Talkie Toaster
25-06-2005, 19:44
More modern stuff like Perfect Dark, you shouldn't have that much trouble getting hold of in tangible form - you should be able to get an N64 and games for pocket money these days. It'll work better with a proper N64 controller anyway.
The reason I want an emulator is because N64 FPSes are now virtually unplayable thanks to the dual sticks/WASD-Mouse controls on everything else. And Save State is always a bonus... :D

Ravening Wh0re
26-06-2005, 19:15
yeah, mainly MAME, and snes, gba, and nes emus