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Alathir
01-09-2006, 01:20
Quick question about this awesome spite...

I came across a Dwarf Lord in a challenge the other day that had some +1 to hit runes or something like that. Now, the annoyance makes him hit on 6's in challenges, would those runes make him hit on something better than 6?

^DrAgOn^
01-09-2006, 02:13
I'd imagine he'd hit on 5's since dwarf rune (The snorri one I'm guessing) says +1 to hit so the way I see it goes (6's to hit (+1 per rune) ), I could be wrong though, the reason I think that is because it says "only" hits on 6's and not "always" hits on 6's, they are pretty similar wordings though.

DarkTerror
01-09-2006, 03:16
You hit on a 6. The +1 is a modifier, whereas the the netlings sets the value to 6. There's another post like this down below

GodHead
01-09-2006, 07:48
Actually, by the end of this thread:
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46066

They deided on:

Auto Hit.......................Only on 6(or 5 etc)............ AutoHit
Auto Hits.......................1st hit discounted.............Both apply
Auto Hit....................... -1 modifier........................Auto hit
+1 to Hit.......................Only on 6(etc)...................Hit on 5+
+1 to Hit....................... -1 modifier......................both apply
Hit on 3+ (or 2+ etc)........Only on 6(etc).................Dice Roll
Hit on 3+ (or 2+ etc)........-1 modifier.............Dice Roll unless *
Hit on 6......................... -1 modifier.................... Dice Roll
Autowound..................... 1st wound discounted......Both apply

*Banner of the Barrows

TK Destroyer of Eternities: 2 autohits does No rolls.
HOC Beguiling Gem: Hits automatically. No rolls mentioned.
O&G Kickin Boots: 1 autohit

+1 to Hit: HE Darting Steel, Flaming Sword, Rune of Snorri
-1 to Hit: O&G Effigy of Mork
discount 1st Hit: O&G Lucky Shield

Hit on 3+ : VC Banner of Barrows
Hit on 2+ : Empire Sword of Righteous Steel
Hit on 6 : Failed fear test

-1 to being hit: Cloud of Flies, VC Cursed book
(Be hit on) Only on 6: Entrenchment *or Annoyance of Netlings*

Alathir
02-09-2006, 02:43
Ok well that's a good answer.

Thanks for that, I am a sad wood elf.

Gorbad Ironclaw
02-09-2006, 07:28
You hit on a 6. The +1 is a modifier, whereas the the netlings sets the value to 6. There's another post like this down below


Agreed. Thats certainly how I'd play it. Might have reached a different conclusion in that other thread, but *shrugh*

GodHead
02-09-2006, 07:50
But that lets one item trump another item for no good reason. Why should their 25 point item have its effect totally nullifying someone elses 25 point item? Where in the rules does it state there is a difference between *modifiers* and "modifiers" and more importantly where does it say which should take precedence? The table that they worked out lets no item arbitrarily overpower others without good reason, and in irreconcileable circumstances you dice it off.

Certainly seems the most reasonable to me to follow their conclusions.

eldrak
04-09-2006, 19:01
Auto Hit.......................Only on 6(or 5 etc)............ AutoHit
Auto Hits.......................1st hit discounted.............Both apply
Auto Hit....................... -1 modifier........................Auto hit
+1 to Hit.......................Only on 6(etc)...................Hit on 5+
+1 to Hit....................... -1 modifier......................both apply
Hit on 3+ (or 2+ etc)........Only on 6(etc).................Dice Roll
Hit on 3+ (or 2+ etc)........-1 modifier.............Dice Roll unless *
Hit on 6......................... -1 modifier.................... Dice Roll
Autowound..................... 1st wound discounted......Both apply

*Banner of the Barrows

TK Destroyer of Eternities: 2 autohits does No rolls.
HOC Beguiling Gem: Hits automatically. No rolls mentioned.
O&G Kickin Boots: 1 autohit

+1 to Hit: HE Darting Steel, Flaming Sword, Rune of Snorri
-1 to Hit: O&G Effigy of Mork
discount 1st Hit: O&G Lucky Shield

Hit on 3+ : VC Banner of Barrows
Hit on 2+ : Empire Sword of Righteous Steel
Hit on 6 : Failed fear test

-1 to being hit: Cloud of Flies, VC Cursed book
(Be hit on) Only on 6: Entrenchment *or Annoyance of Netlings*

What's the difference? That you can't hit on 7+?
Comment on 2nd one: If someone failed a feartest against me causing him to hit only on 6 i wouldn't want a dice roll and get my -1 to hit to overrule the fear.