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benf
11-09-2006, 09:13
Hey guys,

This is my latest 2000pt BD list.
Will be fighting a ogre kingdoms army with a slave giant.

Characters
Vampire Count: Level 2 Wizard/ Red Fury/Obsidian Amulet
Heart Piercing/Additional Weapon

Vampire Thrall: Mount/Gem of Blood/Heart Piercing/Additional Weapon

Necromancer: Level 2 Wizard /Book of Arkhan/
Spell Familiar

Necromancer: Level 2 Wizard /Black Periapt/
Power Stone


Core
Skeleton Regiment (29) /Standard Bearer /Spears
/Musician
/Champion

Skeleton Regiment (24) /Standard Bearer /Spears
/Musician
/Champion

Ghouls 9 Ghast


Special
Grave Guard (14) /Standard Bearer /Banner of the Barrows
/Musician /Halberds
/Champion

Black Knights (7) Standard Bearer
/Musician
/Champion
/Barding

Sprit Host (2)


Total 1997

Hope that layout makes sense, pasted form excel and tidied a bit.

Basically The knights with my thrall will be on the far side and will most likely be fighting his iron guts.
He likes to keep his giant/bruisers/tyrant all clumped together in the centre, so im going to target the giant with my gravegaurd, while my lord with his skele squad hit the bruisers and tyrant, my spirit hosts will aim for his Man eaters which tend to come in from the far side. my other skel squad will try and stop his squad of bulls from charging my wights or my lord.
after dealing to his iron guts my knights will either help in the main battle or go chase his hunter/leadbelchers.
all the while my necros are whoring hellish vigour, invo and vanhels.

what you reckon?

Tobias
11-09-2006, 13:35
Additiona hand weapon doens't work on a mount

Lose the power stone for a scroll

I would drop some skeletons youcan always raise them and drop the grave guard

Make your knights 9 strong with banner of the barrows
Take some dire wolves
Maybe a banshee
and fell bats

:)

Tili
11-09-2006, 13:38
This list is way to slow, Ogres have movement 6. You will never get a decent charge with that list, only with the knights and the spirit hosts...

You have like 6 units (without characters) you guess you'll pretty much be flanked alot with that list...

I wouldnt use large blocks of skellies like you do, ogres just crunch em trough...

I'd say good luck, you'll need it...

benf
11-09-2006, 20:14
Additiona hand weapon doens't work on a mount
:)

really?

just got a few questions;
why drop the grave guard?
I have never used dire wolves or bats before, how are they best used?
I have been using a banshee, but decided to drop her. why do you think i should have her?
As for the scrolls last time he didnt take any butchers so i didnt need a scroll.
thanks for the replys

forgot to add, i was relying on vanhels to speed up my army

Tili
11-09-2006, 23:41
Bats are great for killing off warmachines, or marchblocking the enemy.
just fly over their units and they will be alot slower.
Dire wolves are also great to destroy warmachines, with luck they can with another unit ofcourse break a unit if they flank charge.
The wolves are fast and pretty cheap so you can use them to bait units to. They'll die but thats not important, whats important is that the enemy is in a bad situation now... (if you position them right)

As for counting of vanhels to win the game:
NEVER count on magic, it SO random you can never be sure of anything. And with the new miscast table if you roll poorly it can really hurt your spellcasters.

If you want to be sure in warhammer, go combat, its a lot more reliable then magic!

I would put more speed in the list and less mainstay skellie units(who never earn their points). More black knights, more wolves and a unit of bats.
A banshee is really nice espessially againts low leadership foes.

Oh and Ghouls eat ogres for breakfast...

benf
12-09-2006, 00:13
cheers for those tips, will help me heaps!!
so i shouldnt bother with grave guard agaisnt ogres either?

The Thnikkaman
12-09-2006, 05:07
you won't get the grave guard's benefit of killing blow against the ogres is the main point. Points would be better spent on a banshee or spirit hosts. Banshee would be excellent actually, as ogres have mediocre leadership. And yeah, i would recommend starting with units of 20 skeletons instead of something higher - just make sure everyone takes your no.1 spell and raise them up. Perhaps a cursed book in there somewhere too? Ogre weaponskill isnt too great.

And as said above, black knights with banner of the barrows is a winning charge - especially against ogres with few if any ranks.

benf
12-09-2006, 05:53
ok what you guys think of this?

Characters
Vampire Count: Level 2 Wizard/Red Fury/Obsidian Amulet
/Heart Piercing/Additional Weapon

Vampire Thrall: Nightmare/Gem of Blood/Heart Piercing

Necromancer: Level 2 Wizard/Book of Arkhan/Spell Familiar

Wraith: Nightmare/Cursed Book



Core
Bat Swarm: (2)

Dire Wolves: (5)

Skeleton Squad: (20) Spears/Full Command

Ghouls: (9) Ghast


Special
Black Knights: (8) Banner of the Barrows/Full Command/Barding

Black Knights: (7) Screaming Banner/Full Command/Barding


Sprit Host: (2)

Rare
Banshee: (1)


Total 1993

The wraith goes with the Screaming banner Knights, and the thrall with the other Knight unit.

Tobias
12-09-2006, 13:18
Drop one unit knights 2 isn't fun to play against, lose the wraith
Get 1 exta knight in your unit of 8

Reaming points take an extra necromancer with power familiar, give your other mage a scorll instead of spell familiar

Get fell bats
Mroe Dire Wolves
No Bat Swarms needed, rather take an extra unit skeletons
Give your thrall a halberd, and red fury instead of heart pearcing

benf
12-09-2006, 19:57
oops! i got my bats mixed up hehe,
thanks for the comments.

I think the wraith idea sounds cool, not as good as it sounds?

did you mean a great weapon for thrall? he cant have a halbed can he?

*edit*
Ok I have switched out the bat swarm for 3 fell bats and I now have 6 dire wolves
i think i need to keep both Knight units as then i will have two hard hitting units instead of only 1
what you guys think?

Tobias
13-09-2006, 06:09
One unit can easily be ignored, and you want your lord in cc, so or he needs to go in a unit or there has to be less cav ;)

benf
13-09-2006, 07:23
um sorry, dont quite understand what you mean? my lord is in a unit, hes in the skele squad?

wouldnt i be better off with twice as many knights over another unit of skeletons?