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Getz
22-09-2006, 15:56
Hi chaps...

First of all, some background...

My Imperial fleet is supposed to be a division of Battlefleet Agrippina and as such I'm using the Bastion Fleet list. The idea is to field a proper "line of battle" - ie. a squadron sized unit of battleships - backed up by cruisers in a support role. Points are not an issue as this is more of a modelling and collecting project...

Anyway, so far I have the following;

Apocalypse Class Battleship
Apocalypse Class Battleship
Emperor Class Battleship

Mars Class Battlecruiser
Armageddon Class Battlecruiser
Armageddon Class Battlecruiser

Tyrant Class Cruiser
Tyrant Class Cruiser
Lunar Class Cruiser
Lunar Class Cruiser
Dicator Class Cruiser

Dauntless Class Light Cruiser (Lances)
Dauntless Class Light Cruiser (Lances)

Dauntless Class Light Cruiser (Torpedoes)
Dauntless Class Light Cruiser (Torpedoes)

A whole ton of Escorts

Anyway, as you can see, I can legally add a fourth battleship and, using the reserves rule, it can be from any Imperial fleet list...

So, which one should I get? So far I've steered clear of the Retribution solely because it's faster than the rest of my BB's, and the Oberon only because doesn't have as good a range as the other battlewagons. However, although I'd rather not take a third Apocalypse, other than that I'm happy to try any one. So what would you recommend?

ArtificerArmour
22-09-2006, 16:30
Could get a battlebarge?

fracas
22-09-2006, 16:35
doesn't the fact that the retribution is faster make it something to consider?
personally, i love the model

Getz
22-09-2006, 16:47
Could get a battlebarge?

No thanks, I'm not into the Space Marine Fleet...

Besides, It wouldn't perform all that well in line astern with the rest of my BB's.

So other than that...

ArtificerArmour
22-09-2006, 16:55
I really suggest the retribution, with guns like they have they lay waste to many a thing.

Getz
22-09-2006, 16:58
Well, I have used a Reribution in the past, and I did like it...

What about the Oberon, anyone got experience of using that?

Nkari
22-09-2006, 23:21
Oberon class battleships are very nice imho, it furfills its intended role game wise and fluff wise, so I would squadron the oberon and the emperor in one and the two retri in one other squadron..

Getz
23-09-2006, 13:15
Okay, has any ever used a Victory class Battleship?

come to think of it, does anyone other than me even know what a Victory class battleship is...

ReDavide
23-09-2006, 21:00
I sure don't. What is it?

ArtificerArmour
24-09-2006, 13:12
I'm also intrieged.

Xisor
24-09-2006, 13:51
The Victory was an old Lance-ship if I recall right. Battlefleet Bakka if I'm not mistaken.

No experience with it I'm afraid. I have used a Retribution, and they *are* fun to use. Not quite as good as they should be, but there you are, they're still decent.

I've not used an Oberon myself personally, but I know a fair few folks who have and they largely agree with Nkari, except for squadronning. Squadronning battleships is dangerous. Overall they're decent handy ships to have in your fleet, and not *too* expensive. If one Braces though...both brace. :eek: You're almost always better off leaving them on their own.

Given the monetary value of the Grand Cruisers, you'd perhaps not mind having a Vengence or two? I like the Avengers, but they're too overcosted/underpowered for most folks. Plus, the GCs are really fun models.

Xisor

orangesm
25-09-2006, 03:11
I would like to see a link to the stat block of the Victory - sounds cool.

Getz
25-09-2006, 10:07
A Cookie for Xisor...

The victory has the same hull stats as a Retribution, but has the firepower of a Chaos Desolator class battleship.

It has the advantage of being cheap, but I've never too much of it...

ArtificerArmour
25-09-2006, 10:45
I don't understand why you don't just get a retribution and keep it at pace with the rest of your battleships? You don't have to move it the full distance.

Getz
25-09-2006, 11:01
To be honest, I don't have one at the moment simply because of how awesome I think the Apocalypse is - I would quite happily take one agian (of couse, one of my Apocalypse's was converted from my old Retribution...)

To be honest, what I'm really asking is which Battleship will work best in line of battle with my existing fleet?

ArtificerArmour
25-09-2006, 11:05
And we said, the retribution :p Torpedoes and a huge range of lances help plenty and it carries a 6+ front armour to boot, ideal to put infront of your battleship vanguard or emperor class and soak up hits from the prow, whilst also dishing out a massive lance/torpedo wave :D

fracas
25-09-2006, 12:18
As i've too already suggested previously, get a Retribution.

other than that, make up one of your own design using what ever chassis. in all likelihood you will only field it in friendly games anyway

Nkari
28-09-2006, 21:13
Hey, you squadron them because then you have a squadron of battleships.. ;))

But generally I dont squadron battleships, and rarley I squadron more than 2 cruisers, if I squadron them at all..