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Pertinax
24-09-2006, 17:10
So, I'm back on the chaos marines. A quick tidy around the house revealed that I had what could only be described as a pile of CSM sprues, berzerker sprues, a mountain of obliterarors, and lots of chaos-like bits.

So, taking codex in one hand, and caluclator in the other, I started to work out what I could make from the pile.

The conclusion was a CSM Word Bearer army.

So the army list looks something like this:

Dark apostle (plus a bit of kit)
8 possessed marines (talons),
10 marines, champ w. powerfist, heavy bolter, plasma gun,
10 marines, champ w. powerfist, heavy bolter, plasma gun,
8 marines, champ w. powerfist, heavy bolter, plasma gun,
8 infiltrating marines, champ w, powerfist, 2 meltaguns,
Landraider
2 Obliterators

In order to get this all done, I've set myself a time limit. This serves several purposes.

1: to reinforce what people think of me - that I'm mad.
2: to prove that one can make a large-ish army in a short time.
3: to get the army finished as an adversary to Railgunner's army, before he gets his own finished.
4: to get me to finish the army.

So the log starts today. I have 30 days to do this. (30 days is totally arbitory). I hope that real life, school and work don't get too much in the way. They probably will, but that's life...

Day 1:
(Well, yesterday, actually) I assembled and started on the first 10 man squad. I've included the three tests that I did before I started this log to see how the paint scheme worked.

Here's the squad so far.
Champion:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2250.jpg
Weapon specialists:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2249.jpg
Troopers:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2248.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2247.jpg

I've opted for a dark, semi-metallic scheme, since it isn't something you see everyday. Like-wise, it's pretty fast to paint. I've done the skin tone in a slightly corrupted tone, since the Word Bearers are not the genetic mutants of other legions.

And yes, they are inspired byt he Kopinski art work in the Horus Heresy books, and the Codex...

Tulkas
24-09-2006, 17:13
Hubba hubba Pertinax. That's all I have to say.

KnightofUltramar
24-09-2006, 17:17
Looking good, Pert. I really like the metallic red. 30 days for 47 models and a tank? I wish you good luck.

KoU

Pertinax
24-09-2006, 17:20
Well that lot so far took about 1 day.

DarkstarSabre
24-09-2006, 17:21
Oooh, metallics. Very nice indeed, very dark and sinister as they should be. Shall be watching this one mate. Just don't dip them :p

Pertinax
24-09-2006, 17:25
No dipping here! The pot of the stuff isn't big enough for the landraider....


EDIT: I should add that this is the army that I will be beating to a pulp.
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38650

unclejimbo827
24-09-2006, 17:37
Damn, those are some of the most evil-looking CSM I've ever seen. :o

Yarick Zan
24-09-2006, 17:39
damn i wish i could paint like that.

Pertinax
24-09-2006, 17:41
I'll show you how on the next batch of marines. Seriously, it's easier than you would imagine...

Railgunner
24-09-2006, 17:46
Thou art truly fiendish!!! You said 3 weeks, not 30 days!!!
Anyway, good luck and looking good so far.

Railgunner

Pertinax
24-09-2006, 17:47
Thou art truly fiendish!!! You said 3 weeks, not 30 days!!!
Anyway, good luck and looking good so far.

Railgunner

I thought you might need a bit of extra time... ;)

Railgunner
24-09-2006, 17:52
Ha..ha..ha..ha, well ive managed to paint 3 terminators today:p

Railgunner

Muffe
24-09-2006, 18:04
Ha..ha..ha..ha, well ive managed to paint 3 terminators today:p

Railgunner


Dude..that's like half your army;) hehe

looking good so far Pert..the real feel one should get from looking at the Word Bearers..

Sick
24-09-2006, 20:22
Wow, very original and well executed scheme. (not the usual scab/blood red)

I'll watch this thread with amazement.

schoolcormorant
24-09-2006, 20:35
yeah i really adore the reddy metal, looks superb. i will keep coming back.
and also, just how can you 'look round the house' and find an army? that truly 'serves to reinforce your label as mad'

SC

Muffe
24-09-2006, 20:51
not when your basement is your bitsbox

Makaber
24-09-2006, 21:10
damn i wish i could paint like that.

Trust me, you can. ;) The technique he uses is brilliantly simple.

Pertinax
24-09-2006, 21:21
More on that later...

Punk_in_Drublic
25-09-2006, 10:05
genius. I love it. You have truly mastered the art of doing things the simple way with great results! Like a ******* shaolin master.

Later,

-Punk

Endemion
25-09-2006, 10:34
Really like the original colouring of these, very well modeled too. This'll be one to watch....

Morathi's Darkest Sin
25-09-2006, 10:44
I love that chaos mark on the guys face.. (need to rip that off when I eventually go back to Chaos) the overall colour scheme although simple looks ace... excellent work dude.

devolutionary
25-09-2006, 10:45
10 points for a truly fantastic image. I may have to investigate that sort of colouring for my WBs.

Bonus point for having no silly spikey helmets too ;)

Pertinax
25-09-2006, 12:20
If my girls cooperate tonight, and I don't get side tracked by the football, I'll have squad 1 done tonight. Watch this space.

(thanks to all who like these bad boys!)

Railgunner
25-09-2006, 19:28
If my girls cooperate tonight, and I don't get side tracked by the football, I'll have squad 1 done tonight. Watch this space.

(thanks to all who like these bad boys!)


:eek: Are they helping you paint??? If so that is such an unfair advantage :p

Railgunner

Lord of Skulls
25-09-2006, 19:37
So that's why Pert always comes up with such simple schemes:p

Like I said earlier, they look very good... Looking forward to seeing a whole squad finished:)

nigsylbd
25-09-2006, 19:56
Those are very impressive Word bearers they put mine to shame.

Looking forward to the tutorial

Chris_Tzeentch
25-09-2006, 20:00
So then Pertinax, spill the beans - I would like to use this scheme for my chaos knights - the blood brethren (imagine word bearer Khorne templars types and you're there)

Satan Dingo 420
25-09-2006, 20:34
those are some damn fine heretics. i absolutely love the color scheme!

Brush your teeth
25-09-2006, 20:49
looking good. great scheme (and i have an idea of how it may be done but im going to stay zipped up until you officially tell us how its done)

ZAChos
25-09-2006, 20:50
Just thought I'd add some words of encouragement. Awesome work, and the bragging rights would be well and truly yours if you painted up an army that size faster than a grey knight army.

FalseAngel
26-09-2006, 01:37
I LOVE that paint scheme! It's thinking outside of the box but yet still distinctly Word Bearers (my second favorite fluff legion).

PariahMagnus
26-09-2006, 07:18
I like this scheme, very chaos like. Looking forward to seeing more progress.

Fred_Scuttle
26-09-2006, 14:39
Color list + Method detail - PLEASE.

LOOKS GREAT!!

Pertinax
26-09-2006, 22:34
*goes advanced*

Right ho. Progress today:
I've finished squad 1, baring the little demon head in the logo, and the squad marking. For the demon head, I'm going to sketch it on paper several times first, before I start to paint it, so I want to wait with that. About the squad markings, I'm thinking os some "pre-heresy" type markings, with line outline arrows and a number, that have been worn off by the 10,000 years plus of heresy.

So, here is the first squad:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2255.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2254.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2253.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2252.jpg

Pertinax
26-09-2006, 22:36
Then, I've done a step by step for those of you that want to see how the armour was done.

Step 1: Back in black, and ready to roll!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2256.jpg
Step 2: Drybrushed lightly with Tin Bitz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2257.jpg
Step 3: Drybrushed with Boltgun Metal
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2258.jpg
Step 4: Painted with red ink on the red parts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2259.jpg

Done deal. It's easy when you think about it.

Pertinax
26-09-2006, 22:39
Oooh. Tripple post. Oh well...

And last off, here is the next squad as they near the undercoating stage.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2261.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2260.jpg

Fond of the Heavy bolter specialist. He has, what they call, an attitude and a big gun (with a bayonette - clipped in the photo...).

Kal
26-09-2006, 22:50
Good job... but i still preferred the scythe... you should make a poll or something :P

Pertinax
26-09-2006, 22:53
The Heavy bolter was originally fitted with a scythe blade from the Zombie sprue. It reached form the bolter barrel to the ground.

I took it off because it was, imho, a tad on the too big side. :( But yes, it looked cool...

Chris_Tzeentch
26-09-2006, 23:21
Fantastic - I am completely going to steal your idea for my Khorne Knights - i'll post some pics when they are done.

McMullet
26-09-2006, 23:24
Super-duper speedpainting there Pert! Most impressive. The metallic-colour thing often doesn't work out but you've got it nicely. Just enough non-metallic colour to make them pop. Jolly good.

spikyjames
26-09-2006, 23:24
simple but very effective. these are very nice.

james

sralialo
27-09-2006, 16:25
I've already told you, but you deserve to get it in writing;
They look very good, especially the red metal parts. A very nice effect! I loook forward to playing against it.

Kotobuki
27-09-2006, 16:37
These guys are awesome. This dark, dingy look is exactly what I'd imagine Chaos warriors looking like. Not the bright colors of the Imperium. Personally I find this look FAR superior to the artificially weathered and dirt/blood caked look so many go for in trying to make Chaos dark.

Pertinax
27-09-2006, 18:56
Thanks all.

Today's work. Second squad is "scrolled and chained", undercoated and they have had their first drybrush.

In addition, I've started to build the Obliterators. Quite a lot of GW needed there, so I'm glad I've started early.

sralialo: Your AV is so you!

Pertinax
29-09-2006, 19:09
Second squad is now half done. Pics to follow.

philbrad2
29-09-2006, 19:44
PERT that's the best (and one of the easiest) and effective metohds I've seen for years. Really like the tattoo's on the bareheaded guys. Makes a nice change to see coloured metallics in 40K.

:chrome:

Pertinax
29-09-2006, 21:43
Thanks. I'll show people how I did the tattoo in more detail along with the skin tone too over the weekend.

Destris
30-09-2006, 08:26
Wow, they look brilliant Pert. Consider it nicked. :D

Pertinax
30-09-2006, 17:13
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2264.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2263.jpg
First 5 men of squad 2 are pretty much finished...

Here's a request for people who are following this thread.

As you see, I've got the flame part of the Legion symbol, but I don't have the little daemon head. This is because I don't want to launch into it with out trying it out on paper a bit first. I'll have about 4 different variations.

This is where you guys come in to it.

The first four people to put up a pic of the little daemon head that they would like me to use (in all seriousness), will be used. Simple.

Lady Hope
30-09-2006, 17:17
Pert: http://www.icdc.com/~marc1/demonhead.gif
Will that one do?

Pertinax
30-09-2006, 17:20
Somewhat more complex that I had thought of, but I'll give it a shot.

Number 1!

UnRiggable
30-09-2006, 18:37
heres mine, did it in 6 minutes. you get the idea.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l263/Unriggable/untitled.jpg

Pertinax
30-09-2006, 18:38
I'd like to keep the head in straiighup black if possible. It will be on a dark yellow background.

ZAChos
01-10-2006, 00:10
My humble attempt.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13793&stc=1&d=1159657674

Just a few blobs, but put together they look kinda like a deamonic face. Hope you like, but i won't be offended if you don't use it. I did it more because i was bored than anything.

Makaber
01-10-2006, 06:51
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/Metallic_Slayer/DanzigSkull.jpg

Zing!

ExquisiteEvil
01-10-2006, 07:05
cant help with the daemon face but just wanted to say these are looking awesome....

1 thing I think that would Really take these guys to the next level would be liturgy on their armour in a contrast white writing!

Second bit of advice - dont go for the whole 'pre-heresy' squad markings idea....use the writing on the armour instead....

Why?

Well the WBs re-painted their armour from charcoal grey to red and so it would have covered any pre-heresy markings... :)

sralialo
01-10-2006, 19:45
sralialo: Your AV is so you!

You sure? It might just be someone that just looks like me...

They still look great, but I'm a bit worried about the grey Space Marine helmet one of them is holding. Luckily it's a bit too light to be one of my little puppies...

Edit: Can't help you with the symbol though, as my drawing skills are quite useless...

Lavfluris
01-10-2006, 20:16
The Word Bearers are looking grand. I will probably be using them if I attend WW4. ;)

Pertinax
01-10-2006, 23:33
EE: ABout hte writting on the armour, I'm really not sure about it. It might turn out too contrasting. What I might try is just some small patches of script in black, as if it is an engraved pattern. But that might be too subtle.

I've also opted for the basic 1,2,3,4 numbers over runes or words. I've tried runes before on other CSM armies, and they have never really worked.

Anyway, second squad is finished tonight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2274.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2272.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2270.jpg

Makaber
01-10-2006, 23:36
Hmm, pick out their eyes a little, perhaps? Otherwise good.

Pertinax
01-10-2006, 23:40
There eyes are actually pretty OK. But I'll have another look at them.

(Note: that is 20 marines in one week)

Lord of Skulls
01-10-2006, 23:42
I agree with Mak, they would probably look better if the eyes were more visible, but apart from that they look great:)

Good to see some writing on the scrolls, too. Makes them seem more... "purposeful" or something;)

Edit: Don't post while I'm typing:p

Pertinax
01-10-2006, 23:45
I'll try and not to do that again....:angel:

Chris_Tzeentch
02-10-2006, 16:32
Hi all, here is a link to the chaos knight I painted using the same method as Pertinax is using :-

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=983230#post983230

DarkstarSabre
02-10-2006, 16:56
It is an interesting technique.

One question though...how effective is it with regards to other colours, particularly blues and greens which are slightly darker than red? Or is that one left to some brave soul to try?

Pertinax
02-10-2006, 20:17
I've got a few extra marines I found knocking around. I'll build them and try the inking tomorrow with green, black and blue. Might even try Yellow if I have enough figures...

In other news:

Finished GSing the Obliterators today, and have started painting them. Also I started building squad 3.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2277.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2276.jpg

Chunky...

DarkstarSabre
02-10-2006, 20:58
Oooh, Termi-oblits.

Amazing how oblits look infinitely better once you swap their heads out.

And Pert, depending on your tests I may or may not wind up stripping and repainting my Chaos Army AGAIN.

I always fancied a nice metallic Night Lords army...

no-use4a-name
02-10-2006, 21:05
Oooh, Termi-oblits.

Amazing how oblits look infinitely better once you swap their heads out.

Totally agree!




I always fancied a nice metallic Night Lords army...

That sounds cool. Pert, look at what you've started. I'm even tempted to do something similar once my Armored Co. is done. Really simple and really effective technique.

Pertinax
02-10-2006, 21:29
*Pert leads the charge towards a mini revolution*

Again.

(Towards something else that isn't exactly new.)

At least I'm bringing techniques to light. ;)

Makaber
02-10-2006, 21:33
I think it's kinda fun how Bergen, Norway is turning into an international hotbed for promoting lazy-man paint techniques though. :)

The boyz
02-10-2006, 21:36
Wow Pertinax, those Obliterators look fantastic. The green stuffing looks very nice. I love the obliterator with the big missile pod, that looks awesome.

DarkstarSabre
02-10-2006, 21:36
That sounds cool. Pert, look at what you've started. I'm even tempted to do something similar once my Armored Co. is done. Really simple and really effective technique.

Heh. This would be my third strip and repaint of the army though. Nail polish remover even works well on plastics if you keep your eye on them.

And Pert, once again it is simply brilliant as far as a technique goes. I was most disappointed when GW stopped doing metallics as I had planned on buying a fair few if and when I got round to my 'nids.

bobert the great clen one
02-10-2006, 21:55
GW stopped doing metallics?

no-use4a-name
02-10-2006, 21:57
GW stopped doing metallics?

I think he's reffering to the "colored" metallics. Like purple, red, green blue....and whatever others they made.

bobert the great clen one
02-10-2006, 22:01
i sure hope so :'(

DarkstarSabre
02-10-2006, 22:16
I think he's reffering to the "colored" metallics. Like purple, red, green blue....and whatever others they made.

Spot on. They used to have a 'coloured' metallic range in addition to the standard silver/bronze/gold set. Blues, purples, greens, reds. All very nice indeed and a shame they're gone.

Punk_in_Drublic
02-10-2006, 22:23
Seriously, I'm getting more and more respect for the mans ability to so it simple, yet with so striking results. Having looked over some of my time consuming painting habits and technique, I find that I use a lot of unneccesary time, just because "I always painted those colours thorugh those highlighting stages". And spending a lot of unneccesary time when you paint, is probably one of the biggest reasons why there are so many unfinished armies out there.

Later,

-Punk

ArtificerArmour
02-10-2006, 22:51
For the daemon, why don't you use the rawr >:3 face.

Get in the rhino!

||-MARKO-||
03-10-2006, 16:40
Spot on. They used to have a 'coloured' metallic range in addition to the standard silver/bronze/gold set. Blues, purples, greens, reds. All very nice indeed and a shame they're gone.


phew. almost died of fright there :p

im absolutely loving your take on the word bearerers. never really liked GW's red and silver approach to them, and i think that this army looks so much better, wiht all the chains and stuff.

death to the false.... hey wait, im a blood angel player. ill shutup before im declared heretic :D

Endemion
03-10-2006, 16:58
Wow, those are some sturdy looking obliterators. Are these next up for the paint brush?

Lavfluris
03-10-2006, 17:50
Finished GSing the Obliterators today, and have started painting them.Now, if I didn't know better... ;)

self biased
03-10-2006, 18:03
looking good.

Pertinax
03-10-2006, 23:04
Done. all in all, about 3 hours painting.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2286.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2287.jpg

next up, another tactical squad....

EDIT: Wow. The purple came out really bright there...

Muffe
03-10-2006, 23:07
yeah..the pictures of the Obliterators does not give them justice...the skin is not as purple ish as it looks here

schoolcormorant
03-10-2006, 23:11
those obliterators look absolutely disgusting....

great! i love them, and for three hours painting it's a stunner really.

SC

DarkstarSabre
03-10-2006, 23:16
Beautiful. Nice horns on them too. Mind you the current Chaos Termie head horns are very nicely textured as is.

Scorpio
04-10-2006, 01:50
Awesome painting Pert!
You have tempted to use that on my marines as well.
Those are some ******* awesome oblits even in the pic they look great!

-Scorpio

Kotobuki
04-10-2006, 07:54
The obliterators don't seem quite 'on'. While the rest of the army is all dark and forboding, the skin on the 'blits makes them very bright and poppy. It also makes it very difficult to see what's what on them.

Then again, I've never been much a fan of the new obliterator models anyway, so that may have an effect on my judgment.

Pertinax
04-10-2006, 17:06
Fair enough. With the extent of the flesh, they do stand out a bit from the darkness of the army... Then again, I'm really not sure how else to do it...

Finished building the next two squads today. Unfortunately, it looks like school might be getting in the way over the next two days... So we'll see where I get to.

Kotobuki
04-10-2006, 18:05
Is there any way to tone down the skin to be a little more Greyish? Of course, the fresh pink scar-type flesh is probably more appropriate. Of course, what I think is irrellavent. So long as you like how they look with your army, it's all good. The actual quality of the paint work/conversion is nothign to sneeze at.

philbrad2
04-10-2006, 20:02
Class!

I'm using your metallic armour technique on the squad of Chaos Militia I'm doing as part of my next army project, Traitor Guard allies for my Iron Warriors. I dub the technique PERTINAX's ink over metallic (IOM) method :D

:chrome:

Pertinax
04-10-2006, 20:16
*is honoured*


*is humble*
In reality, all it is, it's a glaze.

Scorpio
04-10-2006, 20:58
If you dont mind i'm actually in the process of testing your scheme with other inks...Not done yet...

-Scorpio

The Wraithlord
04-10-2006, 21:22
Works with blue. I did something similar a few years back for a unit of Thousand Sons.

Pert, what I am curious about are those chains. Where do you find those and how easy are they to paint? I can't help thinking that they tend to swing away from the brush...

Scorpio
04-10-2006, 22:18
Works with blue. I did something similar a few years back for a unit of Thousand Sons.

Ok well i was gonna try that maybe i'll try black and see how it looks.

-Scorpio

DarkstarSabre
04-10-2006, 23:58
Already tested. Works with blue quite well. Shall try to get some photos of a WIP Night Lord up within the next few days.

Time to strip and repaint everything.

Again.

Pertinax
04-10-2006, 23:59
Works with blue. I did something similar a few years back for a unit of Thousand Sons.

Pert, what I am curious about are those chains. Where do you find those and how easy are they to paint? I can't help thinking that they tend to swing away from the brush...

The chains are not really important. THey get sprayed, and then they get a bit of colour on them. I haven't gone out of the way to paint them. Sort of "If they get painted, then good. If not, then who cares?"

Scorpio
05-10-2006, 00:21
Already tested. Works with blue quite well. Shall try to get some photos of a WIP Night Lord up within the next few days.

Time to strip and repaint everything.

Again.

I also tried black. It looked good but i had accidentally watered down my black ink too much so it didnt look to cool.

But all in all a very very nice technique there pert. Works extremely well with all colors.

-Scorpio

natedogg710
05-10-2006, 02:56
I love that terminator. Great job on the painting and keep it up.

Lord of Skulls
05-10-2006, 19:00
I love that terminator.
What Terminator?

Pertinax: Looking very good:) I think you should post up a pic of the whole lot so people can see how scary they look in a large group;)

Oh, and I saw the Oblitterators in the shop today, and thought I'd point out that in real life the skinn looks a lot more dull and grey and dead, not as pink as it seems in the pictures...

Pertinax
05-10-2006, 20:14
OK. Update!

I've built squads 3 and 4. 3 in on the painting table right now. 4 is waiting for undercoat.

I've also been distracted into making the dark apostle. It looks something like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2288.jpg
And the Cursed Crozius close up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2295.jpg

EDIT: The angle makes the book look like it is falling off. It isn't. It's actually sitting quite snuggly in a Havoc Missile Launcher arm.

FalseAngel
05-10-2006, 21:17
Wow, real nice Dark Apostle. Take inspiration from the the picture in the codex?

Lavfluris
05-10-2006, 21:46
Groovy Dark Apostle. :cool:

Pertinax
05-10-2006, 22:10
Actually it's based on a pic of Kor Phaedron from the CCG from Saber tooth. The marines are generally inspired by the pics from the Horus Heresy CCG and the CSM codex illustrations by K.Kopinski.

Scorpio
05-10-2006, 22:18
Groovy Dark Apostle. :cool:

Totally agree. I cant wait to see this guy painted.

-Scorpio

FalseAngel
06-10-2006, 01:47
Actually it's based on a pic of Kor Phaedron from the CCG from Saber tooth. The marines are generally inspired by the pics from the Horus Heresy CCG and the CSM codex illustrations by K.Kopinski.

Ah, I see. It looked an awful lot like the Dark Apostle in the codex hefting the crozius above his demonic head.

Endemion
06-10-2006, 12:48
What an evil looking weapon that crozius is. If only I could turn out figs as quick as this

hairyman
06-10-2006, 13:03
Wow, just wow. Bloody brilliant. :)

cookiescrumble
06-10-2006, 14:00
Pert, inspirational as always.

primarch16
06-10-2006, 17:32
Hes looking pretty sweet, maybe a little busy but I think most chaos lords look like that. Should look awsome when painted, good job.

When Black Roses Bloom
06-10-2006, 17:46
Oh my god, first Exo with Word Bearers, now this!!!


GUGLE
GUGLE
GUGLE
GUGLE...


I want to make a W.B. army too!!!!! :cries: :cries: :cries:

Getifa Ubazza
06-10-2006, 18:57
Pertinax

Once you have done your Dark apostle, is there any chance you could post a pic of the whole army. I love the pics of the individual squads, but nothing beats seeing a whole army.

Thanks

John

Pertinax
06-10-2006, 19:23
Tomorrow, I'll take a group photo with what has been made/finished so far.

Of course, when the whole bally lot is done, I'll have the army shot too. Don't worry about that!

Today: 4 more marines in squad 3 finished.

violenceha
07-10-2006, 02:48
Crap, i don't know when tomorrow is!

Greblord
07-10-2006, 11:24
Gorgeous work - keep it up! Chaos armies really should all be converted , and they look fantastic when complete. Love the chains everywhere :)

AmKhaibitu
07-10-2006, 12:39
Ah the fun of recognising all the parts used, right down to the nice use of the havok metal bits.

Pertinax
07-10-2006, 16:26
Thanks. It's worth stressing that I have bought nothing (in recent time) for this project. It's an army list and that is made up from all the bits that I could find in my bits-basement.

slaaneshes_own
07-10-2006, 17:14
You sir, have fully earned the title of MAD! I am quite tempted to half-inch my brother's largely Black Legion army, and re-paint it with the IOM technique, and wash it with a couple of inks. Just need to work out which inks work best... anybody try blues and yellows?

Joe

IJW
07-10-2006, 17:20
I wouldn't recommend using it with yellow - generally it works best with darker inks such as red, blue, purple or green.

ml2sjw
07-10-2006, 23:27
Excellent work hopefully it will get me to paint my wordbearers, the tattoos in particular are excellent, like blood on weapons they tend to go a bit wrong on a minature but these are excellent....

The obliterators look a little bit bright with the skin tones, but that could just be the photo as you said they seem far more purple in the photo than real life. Personally i like my obliterator skin to be dark and glossy as described in storm of iron but then again with the dark red it might go to far and make the model to dark...

Quick question, how do you get the skin tone like you do its very cool and i'd like to steal it, plus you promised a step by step but you never got around to it :-p

I also second the call for a "whole army" shot to get an impression of how these would look on the table top

Pertinax
08-10-2006, 17:44
I'll get a skin tutorial done on Moday or Tuesday. I've got another squad to start then.

Progress on my Apostle. I've used a bit more time on him than the rest of the army. So far, the legs indicate nicely what the figure will look like.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2309.jpg

spikyjames
08-10-2006, 17:48
this is looking very nice, can't wait to see it finished

Red Scorpion
08-10-2006, 18:28
Whoah...
I'd kind of given up on the hobby. I just sold a bunch of stuff on ebay, and I was sticking to my guard (as a shelf/when my gaming buddy comes back from uni once in a blue moon) but I have a large collection of Chaos Marine/Traitor Guard stuff thats kind of waiting in the wings...

Im going to try this method on the squad of marines I have made up, results may follow. I really love the look of those! Mine will be Alpha Legion.
Chris

Scorpio
08-10-2006, 18:29
this is looking very nice, can't wait to see it finished

Seconded!

-Scorpio

Chris_Tzeentch
08-10-2006, 18:30
Where did the book come from? I like that a lot.

Pertinax
08-10-2006, 19:07
The book comes from a Daemonhunter Inquisitor.
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99060107012&orignav=10

Imus
08-10-2006, 20:49
ooo lovely minature, hows the brass done???????? Best i've seen for awhile and compliments the red well.

Chris_Tzeentch
08-10-2006, 20:50
Excellent miniature. Looking forward to seeing it all done.

Pertinax
08-10-2006, 21:32
The brass is done like this:

The whole figure undergoes the tinbitz/BGM dry brush.
Then, the red is inked in.
The brass parts are then painted with thin Sninning gold paint.
Repeat.
Brown ink is then painted in as the darker parts.
A touch of mithril is then added to the gold, and the points are highlighted.

That's it. Not as complex as it sounds.

Pertinax
10-10-2006, 10:05
School's gotten in the way over the past few days. Suffice to say, I'v been doing a bit more work on the Apostle.

asecondtoolate
11-10-2006, 06:17
Pert, I'm sorry for bothering you/asking but could you do a tutorial with pictures on how to pain the flesh tone you've gotten, I really want to do that for my necromunda gang and I have no idea.

thanks very much,
asecondtoolate

bloodwraith
11-10-2006, 08:16
Hey pert,

been following this as i always follow whatever you are doing and this is gorgeous work, might have to steal your idea and do it with purple ink instead. Here's two i did earlier in blue but not your method.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/warlord_gorbad/40k%20stuff/ApostateAspChamp.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/warlord_gorbad/40k%20stuff/anotherapostate.jpg

When i do coloured metallics my painting always looks at a better standard then i am actually at. Metallics rock! keep up the good work.

TheCimSaint
11-10-2006, 08:54
Very cool method on the metallics Pert. Gonna lift it for my Alpha Legion in the future.

The skin tones are great! Keep up the good work!

- Saint

Pertinax
11-10-2006, 14:33
uh.......flu.

No go at the moment.

Scorpio
11-10-2006, 23:05
uh.......flu.

No go at the moment.

Sorry man. I know what you mean...

-Scorpio

slaaneshes_own
11-10-2006, 23:56
Its a bugger isn't it?! all my housemates have had these hellacious colds, and I slipped up on taking my medication, and now I'm the last in the house to get it, and it sucks...

Plenty of painting time though!

Joe

Pertinax
12-10-2006, 08:31
I think it was a bit more than a cold or flu. Probably conjunctivitus that I picked up from my girls. At least I can open my eyes and see out now...

I'll have updates tonight.

Erestor
12-10-2006, 12:10
Skip it Pert, sounds like you need rest more than the Internet needs you.

Whisky is good for illness, have some of that.

bloodwraith
12-10-2006, 12:46
I've been thinking about the blues and the greens and whatnot and i'm not sure why but i have the feeling they wouldn't work as well as the red. The reason being is that the red seems to pick up the warmth of the tin bitz. I can see oranges and reds working well on this colour but i think the cooler colours wouldn't pick up the same kind of tinge. I'm kind of iffy about the cooler colours and would actually have to see them before i put money into actually bringing it about. Orange could be worth a try, orange and purple.

Punk_in_Drublic
12-10-2006, 13:27
Pert, I'm sorry for bothering you/asking but could you do a tutorial with pictures on how to pain the flesh tone you've gotten, I really want to do that for my necromunda gang and I have no idea.

thanks very much,
asecondtoolate

I'm going to blatantly copy his painted skin tone. He told me that is just a dwarf flesh with increasingy mixed in bleached bone. A purple ink glaze to finish it off. Gonna look ace on my chaos slaneesh army.

Later,

-Punk

DarkstarSabre
12-10-2006, 13:52
I've been thinking about the blues and the greens and whatnot and i'm not sure why but i have the feeling they wouldn't work as well as the red. The reason being is that the red seems to pick up the warmth of the tin bitz. I can see oranges and reds working well on this colour but i think the cooler colours wouldn't pick up the same kind of tinge. I'm kind of iffy about the cooler colours and would actually have to see them before i put money into actually bringing it about. Orange could be worth a try, orange and purple.

If I ever get the photos Wolf Scout Ewan took of my tester Night Lord...

Blues work. Very, very well.

Pertinax
13-10-2006, 09:10
PiD's got it right. I've got some vision at the moment, so I'll try to do a tutorial tonight.
Otherwise, here's an update (close up and a bit bloodshot).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2332.jpg

Erestor: Me + Whisky = teh bomb. Not something to be repeated too often... I'll tell you later.

Lavfluris
13-10-2006, 12:19
I've got some vision at the moment, so I'll try to do a tutorial tonight.Get well soon, buddy. :cool:

Badgobbla
13-10-2006, 13:09
The Word Bearers are looking grand. I will probably be using them if I attend WW4. ;)

How come this doesn't surprise me? ;)

BTW nice work on those marines there Pert.

Venomizer
13-10-2006, 16:29
very nice work Pert

I think I'll be trying the IOM on my necrons, very nice look for not too much work - I like it

Lavfluris
13-10-2006, 17:19
How come this doesn't surprise me? ;)Not sure.

Still fancy paying for my flight and my food?

Badgobbla
13-10-2006, 18:39
I never said I'd pay that :eek:

philbrad2
13-10-2006, 19:16
Perhaps you should try and replicate your eye infection on the model :D

Love that brass! Looking good. My own 'PERT pattern' Traitor militia are coming along nicely I'll get some pics posted.

PhilB
:chrome:

Pertinax
13-10-2006, 20:46
OK. No painting today. BUT!

I've now built, scrolled and chained the 8 man/2 melta infiltrator squad, and built, GSed and scrolled the posessed. I was more in the mood for building everything today. It now leaves me with the following things to do:

1: Chain up the posessed, and paint them.
2: Paint the infiltrator squad.
3: Build the Landraider.
4: Mod the Landraider, and paint it up.
5: Finish the Apostle.

So the end is in sight (hehe).

Lav: I'm thinking that your mention of WWIV made my body react, and go bad. It appears to be what happens every time...

Lavfluris
14-10-2006, 01:08
Lav: I'm thinking that your mention of WWIV made my body react, and go bad.Maybe that's the reason why I have decided not to attend WWIV unless by some small miracle, I win the National Lottery. Can't have Pertinax dying on us just yet. ;)

violenceha
14-10-2006, 01:25
I'm sure there'd be plenty of you guys to give him mouth to mouth until help arrived!

Erestor
14-10-2006, 09:53
Erestor: Me + Whisky = teh bomb. Not something to be repeated too often... I'll tell you later.

You're not alone in this, so I'll spare you you ignominy of reliving it.

Those are some Nurglish eyes you have Pert, nice fashion statement. All the better to ........ us with?

Post some more pics dammit so I can keep stealing your ideas. :)

(Kids, if you're under 18 remember, Whisky is medicine, you only need it in small doses ;) )

Pertinax
14-10-2006, 19:30
I guess you could say that my eye is the Eye of Terror...

"To the eye and back...."
:D

Anyway, here's the updates. Today I finished building all the marines that need to be done. That included the posessed.

Here they are
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2333.jpg
Some of the figures closer up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2336.jpg
"I used to be able to play the piano!"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2337.jpg

And here is the full army shot at the moment.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2338-1.jpg

There is a fair amout of skin on the marines coming up, so I'll do the step by step on them.

Black DH templ.
14-10-2006, 21:02
I can't get over you sounding like a schoolboy Pert :)
Sorry. I have no real comments other than I like the metallic red approach. Always nice to see new styles. And your Lord or whatever (that's the reason I can't reply) litterally looks wicked.

Railgunner
14-10-2006, 21:44
oooOOOooo..looks like pert is going for a 'Mini' land raider:p

Railgunner

UnRiggable
14-10-2006, 22:39
what head did you give the spray painted guy in the posessed squad? Can we see it?

Pertinax
14-10-2006, 22:42
I don't have any good photos of it, but it's a shaved down Berzerker skull helmet from the plastic sprue. Simple, yet different.

EDIT: And the metailc painted bits come from an earlier Iron Warriors army. In the past, I made a whole 50 man Iron Warrior infantry army from Khorne Berzerkers and odd plastic bits. This was way before the plastic CSMs. That one guy didn't make the cut into the army, and ended up in the bits box.

Erestor
15-10-2006, 00:18
Hey Pert,

Your Possessed certainly look better than the metal GW ones. Nice work. I'm guessing Rending Talons is the mutation of choice?

Pertinax
15-10-2006, 13:21
Talons are the mutation de jour.

Gekiganger
15-10-2006, 13:41
"I used to be able to play the piano!"

:D :p


Those obliterators look strange on the overall pic of the army, looked better in the earlier pics me thinks. Fantastic work on them btw, amazing army.

Pertinax
15-10-2006, 13:59
The obulators just look small. That's all.

Glad you like the army!

Scorpio
15-10-2006, 18:37
Keep goin! We neeeeed more!
EDIT: 777 posts!

-Scorpio

Pertinax
18-10-2006, 08:34
Sorry, no updates so far. I've done a bit more on the Apostle, but nothing really to show for it yet.

Work and school has been heaping up....

Badgobbla
24-10-2006, 09:52
Come on you lazy git! More pics! Or is the organisation of DSK1 taking too much time?

citizenkade
24-10-2006, 16:13
Rending claws look great for converting/ Nice work as always, Pert. As for blues and greens over metallics, I have found that skipping Tinbitz and inking over silver workd great. It still looks good going the Tinbitz route.

Pertinax
24-10-2006, 16:18
Or is the organisation of DSK1 taking too much time?
Yes.

That and the closing of HBG. And the wife being in Malawi right now. And the two kids terrorizing the neigbourhood. And school.

You get the idea.

I've been painting a bit, just not enough to show any great progress. There will be pics when I have something to show for it.

And yes, that means that I failed my 30 day time limit. Unforseen things just get in the way, you know. beacuase they are, like, unforseen. You know?

Still, I'll be done before Railgunner, that's for sure!

Railgunner
24-10-2006, 16:37
Hahaha...thats just the inspiration i need..i'm going to go lock myself in my room for the next week with food, water, paints and models to paint:p

Railgunner

Lavfluris
24-10-2006, 21:04
Hahaha...thats just the inspiration i need..i'm going to go lock myself in my room for the next week with food, water, paints and models:pI thought that's what you normally did when not at school. ;)

Railgunner
24-10-2006, 21:28
I went to HBG when i wasn't at school:p Maybe i should just add 'and paint' to the sentence Lav has quoted.

Railgunner

DarkstarSabre
24-10-2006, 22:08
Probably.

Ah well, here's hoping you get some time Pert.

And that Wolf Scout Ewan sends me the damned photos of my attempt at the Pert method with blue!

Pertinax
24-10-2006, 23:33
Well I undercoated the rest of the army tonight, and did a bit more on the Apostle, so after a small hiatus, there is progress.

Yeay!

Erestor
25-10-2006, 10:11
Progress is good. Slow, steady progress, like a glacier?

Pertinax
25-10-2006, 11:43
Glacial. Good analogy.

Although glacial might not actually be slow. Briksdalsbreen, in Jotunheim in Norway, has actually been advancing over the past few years. During the 1990's in was advancing at an average rate of about 20 cm every day. :eek:x2

Punk_in_Drublic
25-10-2006, 11:58
Less spam - more pictures!!!1

:mad: ,

-Punk

Badgobbla
25-10-2006, 14:25
And yes, that means that I failed my 30 day time limit. Unforseen things just get in the way, you know. Because they are, like, unforseen. You know?

Still, I'll be done before Railgunner, that's for sure!

Don't I know it. I still need to paint some stuff for DSK1 and it seems I'll be cutting it real close this time.

And I think I'll even be ready with my Daemon Hunters for WWIV (if it'll be held) before Stuart. :p

Pertinax
25-10-2006, 16:22
OK. I'm having a painting drive tonight. I'll get a squad done today. I need a movie to watch whilst I do it though, so anybody got any suggestions?

(I have a rather large DVD collection, so fire away!)

Animerik
25-10-2006, 16:39
Well I want to see more minis paintid this superb way, my tip for a mive would be , Evil dead 2 I really want to see this one finished so watch th whole triologi so we are sure to see alot of minis done ;)

violenceha
26-10-2006, 01:45
Any John Carpenter movie, just so long as you bloody paint!
Also my toilet exploded and i had to put it back together with superglue and silicon until i can afford a new one, anyone got any toilet modelling advice?

Lavfluris
26-10-2006, 08:50
Any John Carpenter movie, just so long as you bloody paint!As there are no updates, I think Pertinax just watched movies instead of painting. :(

Punk_in_Drublic
26-10-2006, 08:58
Nah, I think we'll get an update later on today. He's got school and whatnot at this hour.

Later,

-Punk

Railgunner
26-10-2006, 11:20
Woohoo!! No school for me for the next 2 days...i think if i manage to get out of bed then i could be in with a chance of completing the army in a reasonable time (maybe even before Pert):D
Just have to hope pert has some of the bitz i need so i can complete them.

Railgunner

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 12:35
That's my trump card. ;)

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 14:09
Chemistry was pretty **** boring today, so I took some time (actually quite a lot of time) to start to plan my Landraider, and how to make it Traitor, not Chaos. I got some good ideas a comin'...

Any other suggestions are welcome!

Railgunner
26-10-2006, 14:14
That's my trump card. ;)

Thou art truly fiendish!!
I guess i'll have to wait until ive painted all the stuff i have to get those bitz?

Railgunner

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 15:46
I want to see progress first... (My progress to be precise :evilgrin: )

Railgunner
26-10-2006, 15:48
So i have to wait until you finish??:cries:

Railgunner

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 15:50
I'm sure we can fix something. Now check your PM's!

Railgunner
26-10-2006, 16:05
I have..well done..took a while to appear in WD though.

Railgunner

spikyjames
26-10-2006, 16:20
well done pert. guardians of gondor?

oh yeah, more pics please!!

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 16:33
Guardians of Gondor wasn't my idea. My GT army list was entitled "Faramir's Osgiliath patrol", but somebody took the liberty...

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 23:03
Well, here's a few more marines from the Recon squad. First of the meltaguns.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2388.jpg

And the small amount of work that has been done on the Apostle. The book covers, scrolls and the cloak.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/IMG_2387.jpg

Pertinax
26-10-2006, 23:24
And here, finally, is a bit about how to do the skin tone. It's not the most suitable of heads to paint, but I think it shows the point. It also serves to show what a crap close up photographer I am... :D

OK. Here's the step by step.
1: Base coat of Scorched brown over black, leaving the eyes black.
2: Coat of Tanned flesh over the brown.
3: Touch of Bleached Bone added to the Tanned flesh.
4: More Bleached bone.
5: More Bleached bone. Now he looks a bit too green, so we'll tone him up a bit.
6: Thin ink glaze of Purple ink. God bless Purple ink!
7: Highlight the eye sockets and forehead with raw Bleached bone.
8: Add details, like eyes and sinister Chaos tattoos. The larger tattoos are done by painting black, and then adding a bit of a medium blue into them, and highlighting the middle of the black areas, just as if you were highlighting the skin areas. In this case, the eyebrows.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/Howtoskin1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/pertinax/Word%20bearers/Howtoskin2.jpg

schoolcormorant
26-10-2006, 23:48
it doesn't suprise me that they changed the name, the new 'consumer friendly' white dwarf, you know it's not until page 22 you actually get into the magazine!
i like the arcchaeon body conversion looks really neat, your army is seriously shaping up - oh and i'm keeping the skin tutorial because i someday plan on doing a chaos army....someday :)

SC

The Machine
27-10-2006, 17:59
Wow! Thanks for the great tutorial for doing skin! That was really helpful. I can't paint skin to save my life!

Pertinax
27-10-2006, 18:11
Thaks! I knew you might find it useful!

Scorpio
27-10-2006, 21:00
The recon squad looks awesome as have the rest. The skin tutorial is really cool.

-Scorpio

Gekiganger
27-10-2006, 22:26
Very nice tutorial.

That cape looks badass, any chance of telling us (Or to be honest, me) how it was done? I've tried similar things but they always come out too dark or lack the dank, moist feel that yours has.

Pertinax
28-10-2006, 00:04
The cape is really simple. It's two colours; Black and Snakebite. They are just layered in simple blends. Just carefully, that's all.

The thing about doing a cape like that is to pick the colours correctly. You don't want to go too dark, and too goudy. SBL gives a more earthy, old tone to the cape, since it has a green tone in it.

That said, it's the first time I've used SBL in about 3 years....

Erestor
28-10-2006, 12:25
Not surprising since SBL is such a hideous colour. I only use it to blend up bleached bone. It looks good in this context. BCHING! Another idea stolen from the big white hairy guy!

Polar Bears are so cute ...OW, my legs, I can't find my leg...

The boyz
28-10-2006, 12:39
Thanks for the tutorial Pertinax on the skin tone, I am going to try it out on my Iron Warriors, when I get round to painting them.

Those CSM's look awesome Pertinax. I like the dark metallic red look of the power armour, that looks very nice. The Apostle chap is looking well good, I like the muddy/dirt effect to his cape.

Gekiganger
28-10-2006, 13:23
The cape is really simple. It's two colours; Black and Snakebite. They are just layered in simple blends. Just carefully, that's all.

The thing about doing a cape like that is to pick the colours correctly. You don't want to go too dark, and too goudy. SBL gives a more earthy, old tone to the cape, since it has a green tone in it.

Guess I just have to take more time and pick my colours more carefully for capes, my current ones arn't a bad paint job, just not Nurgle-ified enough for me, yours however is fantastic.



That said, it's the first time I've used SBL in about 3 years....

I blame it on you having an advantage, your paints have clearly matured over time.:(

Thanks Mr Bear.

Pertinax
28-10-2006, 14:02
I blame it on you having an advantage, your paints have clearly matured over time.:(

Thanks Mr Bear.
So older is better! YAY!

(Also goes to show that Citadel paint doesn't dry out.)

t-tauri
01-01-2007, 17:07
Spam purged. Please don't post nonsense "Any progress?" posts in old threads. It just clogs the forums up. If you want to ask about progress on an old thread try the PM system.