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McMullet
26-09-2006, 21:32
That's right folks. Time for a serious thread.

It's near on 6 years since I started playing GW games again and I've not actually finished painting an army, except a Mordheim Warband. I have one partially finished army I can play with.

I have, in summary:

Crimson Fists: Around 2000 points painted. 500 or so unpainted.
Lizardmen: a few random units painted. 4500 points unpainted. D'oh!
Tyranids: A mega gigantor big box o' doom, 2 battleforces and a box of warriors. 3 warriors and 32 gaunts assembled (unpainted), everything else on the sprues.
Orks: I have soime orks. That is all.
Mordheim: 20 or so Middenheimers, all done.So there you go. One army I can play with without feeling guilty, and it's Space Marines. The shame!

Here is where I change this.

As is obligatory, here is a picture of my desk:

http://images.fotopic.net/yjxcvj.jpg

Look at it there. All desky and stuff.

The first thing on the list is Lizardmen. I like Fantasy much more than 40K as a game, so I really want to finish this army off so I can play properly, in tournaments and whatnot. I recently decided on my Saurus Warrior colour scheme (thanks to everyone who gave their input for that)...

http://images.fotopic.net/yjeoai.jpg

... which was the last stumbling block. While that thread was up and running, I painted some Skinks:

http://images.fotopic.net/yjx86k.jpg

So work is actually starting.

My initial plan for the army is:

Converted Saurus Scar Veteran with Great Weapon (needs stripping before I can start on it)
Saurus Scar Veteran BSB (Undercoated)
Skink Priest (painted, needs rebasing)

13 Skinks with blowpipes (painted, but need retouching and rebasing)
10 Skinks with Javelins - see above (half done, all need basing)
3 Jungle Swarm bases (Painted and based, badly, will strip and rebase)
20 Saurus Warriors (undercoated)
20 Saurus Warriors (not even bought them yet)

3 Kroxigor (2 are painted and based, badly, will strip and rebase)
3 Terradons (2 finished, one needs painting)
20 Saurus with spears, and blessed mark of Tlazcotl (undercoated)

That's 2000 points. Hopefully, I'll take them to the 2007 Carnage Tournament. That gives me a little under 6 months, which is the first semester of the last year of my PhD.

I'm planning to do a few Saurus next. I may mix the end of my Crimsoin Fists and the beginnings of my Nids with this army to relieve the tedium of 60 Saurus Warriors. Watch this space...

Brush your teeth
26-09-2006, 21:34
nice colour scheme, and the planned army looks pretty solid aswell.

good luck with the project

Rich 123
26-09-2006, 22:13
Aha! Ntl have let me actually use the internet at long last (generous of them what with me paying for it and all!) and it's so good to see McMullet posting some pictures of minis (after keeping your lovely Fists under wraps).

Nice to see a Saurus with a proper paint job on rather than just a test mini. Its turned into a really nice, striking scheme. Very lizardy as well to my eyes (if you know what I mean - but I'm and artist not a biologist so I don't know what I'm talking about!) The skinks are a good development and tie in really well with that Saurus. Would it be too much to ask for a close up of one? ;) Everyone loves close ups!

Really looking forward to your updates, seeing as you really do need to get a WFB army painted. Good luck with getting them all done for the tournie! I'm balking at the painting I have to do for my marines and theres only about 35 of them!


One army I can play with without feeling guilty, and it's Space Marines. The shame!
Hah, hey! Much as marines are a bit naff, you can hold your head up high with those chaps mate.

Good work mate!
Dicky

Oh, and by the way. Kudos on the bottle lurking on the right hand corner of your desk. Shame it isn't full. You'd get cross with me me as tonight I'm drinking lager, not some tasty ales, haha.

Gekiganger
26-09-2006, 22:25
Lizardmen: a few random units painted. 4500 points unpainted. D'oh!

Happen to have a list of exactly what is there? That's one heluva strong lizard army.



Watch this space...

Indeed I will :)

Lovely Saurus btw

McMullet
27-09-2006, 00:08
nice colour scheme, and the planned army looks pretty solid aswell.

good luck with the project

Thanks! I'm aiming for a different Lizzie army, with no Salamanders and only a few skinks. Lets see these Saurus pull their weight for a change, they are supposed to be the main fighting force of the Old Ones. :p


The skinks are a good development and tie in really well with that Saurus. Would it be too much to ask for a close up of one? ;) Everyone loves close ups!

Whyever not.

I'll pick one of the little blighters out for some macro-action when the camera next comes out of its case. I'll pad the start of the project out with a few pics of the Crimson Fists too.

Please note, however, that this army is going to be painted to what I would consider a good tabletop standard - so there'll be plenty of holes to pick in close-ups. ;)


Hah, hey! Much as marines are a bit naff, you can hold your head up high with those chaps mate.

Aw, thanks. :p


Oh, and by the way. Kudos on the bottle lurking on the right hand corner of your desk. Shame it isn't full. You'd get cross with me me as tonight I'm drinking lager, not some tasty ales, haha.

As long as you're not putting ale in the fridge, I'll spare you from my Wrath.


Happen to have a list of exactly what is there? That's one heluva strong lizard army.
I can give you a rough idea...

1x 4th Generation Slann (painted!)
1x 2nd Generation Slann (using Lord Kroak Model)
1x Oldblood on Carnosaur
1x Saurus Hero on Cold one (not assembled)
2x Saurus Hero on foot
1x Saurus BSB on foot
3x Skink Priest
1x Skink Hero (I need a couple more of those lovely new models that came out with Lustria though)

48 Skinks (2x13, blowpipes, 2x11, Javelins)
48 Saurus (I need another 16 to make 2 units of 20 and a unit of 24 with spears)
3 Jungle Swams (may get a couple more)
20 Temple Guard

3 Terradons (could do with another couple)
4 Kroxigor
10 Saurus Cavalry (could do with another command group to make this into 2 units)
9 Chameleon Skinks

3 Salamanders (inc. one old-style model)

A lot of the points are in all the characters.

When I do everything with it I want, it'll likely be nearer 5K points. The lesson is: Plan your army before you start buying, or you'll go and buy everything.

Jim Reaper
27-09-2006, 00:23
Ah, a project log, most excellent! I hope to see some good stuff up here, and soon, or there will be repurcussions. :D

Colour scheme looks good, the army list looks solid, the only thing standing between yourself and Carnage-related glory is sixty Saurus warriors. Good luck to you sir, I shall be checking back here often.

By the way, the caveat in the title is a good idea, wish I'd thought of it. Gives you a little bit of latitude if you decide you hate the lizards for a bit.

Scorpio
27-09-2006, 01:38
Always loved lizardmen...And so far these guys are doing great! I havent seen a good lizardmen army in quite some time so this should be good!

-Scorpio

Bluesabre
27-09-2006, 03:43
Looks good so far, should be interesting to see how this pan's out. Keep em coming, lest we hassle you for more....

McMullet
27-09-2006, 23:20
Well, a slow day here. I had some photos to sort out and some more to take, so I've not got much actual painting done. I have re-undercoated 5 Saurus (old test minis) and given them their first rough bit of paint. This is the base for the flesh, a messy coat of "Scrofulous" brown (Vallejo). Actually, my mistake, it was plague brown. Let's see how that turns out...

http://images.fotopic.net/yjj3c3.jpg

As you can see, this coat is very rough. Hopefully I'll get something more significant done on these 5 models tomorrow...

In the interim, some more pictures:

Close up of a skink: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p34529604.html
(click on the picture to get the hi-res version)

A skink that I painted ages ago: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p34529603.html
(Again, clicky. I'll retouch these guys a bit to make them more like the new ones)

In the meantime, some pictures of my Crimson Fists to distract attention from the fact that I've done no work:

Dreadnought:

http://images.fotopic.net/yjj3ei.jpg

Commander:

http://images.fotopic.net/yjj3m4.jpg

More pics of these and other random stuff here (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/).

Thanks for your comments and continued interest!

Scorpio
28-09-2006, 01:42
Those are some nice crimson fists...But we want Lizardmen!

-Scorpio

spikedog
28-09-2006, 03:46
Ohh cool, now its my turn to post on one of your army diary threads McMullet. :D

As (I think) I said on your Sarus test scheme thread I love your scheme and can't wait to see a whole unit of these bad-boys painted up. I see you have gone for the opposite scheme on your Skinks, were they already painted like that before you came up with the Sarus scheme?

Also its great to see someone else who makes their armies based on what they like rather than what is the norm or the most powerful, I say go Sarus heavy list! I hope you have fun playing with it.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who still has old style pot paints in regular circulation on their desk as well.

McMullet
28-09-2006, 10:17
Thanks for the comments... keep chivvying and I might make some progress this evening. :p

The first unit of Skinks were painted a while back, yes. At that time I hadn't really thought about a rational colour scheme, so I had the blue Skinks, green Kroxigor and blue Slann. I then decided that blue and bone would be the theme to tie the army together, so the Krox need redoing. I like the scheme reversed for the Skinks, as they don't have many scales and an entire model done in bone would look a bit too pale; it also, I feel, makes them look a bit weedier than the Saurus ;). I think the army should hang together as long as I maintain those two colours. The only problem is stuff like Swarms.

And yes, I do have a rather eclectic collection of paint pots. :p

More updates tonight, all being well.

McMullet
29-09-2006, 00:22
Well, I did a *bit*...

The 5 Saurus now have their basic 2 colours done. A lot of thinned washes were involved which means a lot of drying.

Anyway, here you go...

2 Fellas in close up:

http://images.fotopic.net/yjjt1q.jpg

All 5 together (looks like I've done more this way ;)).

http://images.fotopic.net/yjjt1o.jpg

Hope that's enough to whet your apetites - I should be able to get the detailing done before I leave for Spain on Sunday. Maybe even tomorrow night, depending on whether I go to the pub.

If anyone's interested, I'm doing a step-by-step guide, starting here (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p34491620.html).

Lavfluris
29-09-2006, 00:29
Guh, wutz dis Fantasee malarkee? It soundz like sum un iz not paintun iz Orks, datz wut it soundz luk! ;)

McMullet
29-09-2006, 00:32
We dun tawk abairt da Orkzes, goddit?

Dere iz no Orkzes!

On a serious note, I refuse to paint or play with Orks unless GW restores my right to teleport snotlings into terminator suits.

Lavfluris
29-09-2006, 00:35
On a serious note, I refuse to paint or play with Orks unless GW restores my right to teleport snotlings into terminator suits.U will b plesantlee grot shokked by da und of da next yur. :cool:

McMullet
12-10-2006, 09:33
Well, I did go to the pub. I've (nearly) finished these 5 Saurus now though...

Sadly the photos didn't all come out, so you won't see all 5 until I've added the last touches tonight - but here's the jist of it.

http://images.fotopic.net/yjuc23.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/yjuc2f.jpg

A shot from the top, which is where you most often see WFB minis from:

http://images.fotopic.net/yjuc25.jpg


I've made a minor change to the colour scheme, using copper instead of bronze as the basecoat for the gold. Copper covers much better than bronze, and it also makes the metal look like Tumbaga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbaga), which was a copper-gold alloy commonly made in Central America by the Aztecs, Incans and so on.

Looking at the pics again, I think I need to do more highlighting on the shields, as at the moment the light looks too directional (they look like they're lit by a red light or something). Also, I still need to paint the inside of the shields, which I'll do tonight.

Next up is, probably, more Saurus. Hoorah.

By the by, basing will be done on a whole unit basis, so don't expect to see bases for a while.

Rich 123
12-10-2006, 10:10
Ahh, good to see you're back at the grindstone matey!

They're looking good so far.Personally the shields looks pretty good at the moment although a tiny line of an orange yellow highlight if you want to will make the shields pop that little bit more.

I loved your Skink's evil red eyes but are the Saurus getting the same treatment or will they keep the black beady eyes. I'm not sure which I would like more... :)

Yay, for painting more Sauruses (Sauri maybe or is it just Saurus?). After having you force me to make all my boring old troops choices first it seems like divine intervention that now you have even more to do ;) Just wait till you can sneer at me making loads of gobbos!

Good luck with this mate, will be great to see these finished and the whole regiment coming together.
Dicky

Jedi152
12-10-2006, 10:29
Good, but i thought it'd be too wierd to have a project log thread without a marine in it somewhere. Even the fantasy ones seem to be afflicted.

But then i guess no-one would even bother reading the thread if it didn't.

McMullet
12-10-2006, 10:42
Haha, sorry. I couldn't help polluting the thread with Marines. The little blighters get everywhere!


They're looking good so far.Personally the shields looks pretty good at the moment although a tiny line of an orange yellow highlight if you want to will make the shields pop that little bit more.

I'll give that a try. Thanks! :)


I loved your Skink's evil red eyes but are the Saurus getting the same treatment or will they keep the black beady eyes. I'm not sure which I would like more... :)

I'll probably put a little bit of red in them. The problem is that the saurus eyes are very small (some of them are little slits about half a mm wide), which makes painting them anything pretty tricky. I'll probably go for just a slight hint of red.


...Sauruses (Sauri maybe or is it just Saurus?).
I prefer Saurus. Sauruses just sounds s-s-s-silly, and Sauri, well, also sounds silly. :p

spikedog
12-10-2006, 11:31
Looking good McMullet.

Do you have plans for the bases yet, will you be doing the whole army and then basing them or have you not thought about it yet?

McMullet
13-10-2006, 10:36
I think just the standard sand and static grass job will do, like this guy: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p12085876.html

I'll do a regiment at a time probably, or maybe 10 models at a time. No basing for a little while yet. ;)

-*-*-*-

EDIT

More pictures, with less blu-tac:

(sorry about the blurriness of the first one)

http://images.fotopic.net/yjunsc.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/yjunss.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/yjuns8.jpg

Scorpio
13-10-2006, 21:08
Looking good. I like how the spikes/horns on their backs switch off in color.

Very nice
-Scorpio

Adept
18-11-2006, 23:47
I really like the spines on their backs. I've only just painted up my first unit of Saurus, and now I want to go back and re-do their spines!

I think the scales on their backs could do with a bit more contrast. A darker blue wash between the scales, and a lighter blue highlight. They look good now, don't get me wrong, but I think at three or four feet (average tabletop viewing distance) they will blend into one another too easily.

McMullet
23-11-2006, 15:02
Ping! I'm back. And it's only been, oh, a month or so.

Thanks for the comments Adept, that was a bit of a kick up the **** to get me painting again. I suspect you may be right about the scales, looking at the models under poor lighting and at arm's length they are pretty ill-defined. I'll try to add some more highlighting I think - although they look quite bright under good light, they're pretty dark under standard indoor lights, so more shading might be a bad idea. I'll work on it...

In the meantime, I've finished the next 5 models. They've actually been almost complete for about 3 weeks, and last night I finally did the shields. These are for another unit so they have green splodges on their crests (the other hand weapon/shield unit has red splodges, the spear unit has yellow splodges).

http://images.fotopic.net/ykm5ss.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ykm5s7.jpg

Full size:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36351726.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36351727.html

Arhalien
23-11-2006, 15:25
On a serious note, I refuse to paint or play with Orks unless GW restores my right to teleport snotlings into terminator suits.

Lol. Could orks do that at one point?

Nice lizardmen by the way - first time I;ve seen an army with a contrasting underbelly rather than a lighter shade.

McMullet
23-11-2006, 16:55
Lol. Could orks do that at one point?

Sure they could! Under 2nd edition, they had the "Shokk Atack Gun". This weapon, wielded by a Mekboy, created a sort of Orky Tellyportin' Tunnel, down which snotlings were herded by a Runtherd (as slavers were known, back in the day). Because this was the time of comedy Orks, they didn't think to send bombs down the tunnel, or even to strap bombs to the snotlings. They just sent snotlings. Still, having a bunch of snotlings materialise in your face is pretty unpleasant for a Terminator.

sigur
23-11-2006, 18:23
Lol. Could orks do that at one point?
...

Indeed, young lad. Read those old books, I suggest.;)

Those Saurus Warriors are looking very nice, McMullet. Just make sure you get us some more updates soon.

McMullet
06-12-2006, 11:54
Soon, eh. Well, soon-ness is relative.

I have finished another 5 Saurus now, and based everything I've done so far. So that's 15 Saurus altogether, from three different units. I've arrayed them in a single unit for the moment, hence the variations in equipment and crest colouration. The newer ones are the guys with spears and yellow crests - I tried to make the scales more distinct this time as Adept suggested.

http://images.fotopic.net/yk66q2.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/yk66qf.jpg

A complete unit of 13 skinks - these are the models I painted an age ago and had to retouch:

http://images.fotopic.net/yk66q7.jpg

Finally, the half a unit of skinks with Javelins:

http://images.fotopic.net/yk66q8.jpg

Full size pics:

Saurus:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711470.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711471.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711472.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711473.html

New Skinks:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711476.html

Old Skinks:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711475.html

Comments and criticisms welcome as always.

Also, I took some more photos of my Crimson Fists (especially for Jedi152):

Tactical Squad:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711489.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711490.html

Scouts:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711491.html

Razorback (This'll be a transport for my Techmarine when I paint him):
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711492.html

spikedog
06-12-2006, 11:59
Very nice as always McMullet. The bases although simple finish the models off beautifully.

When are you going to start on something larger like a Kroxigor (sp?) or even better, a Stegadon?

Jedi152
06-12-2006, 12:20
Also, I took some more photos of my Crimson Fists (especially for Jedi152):
Why thank-you sir! :D

Superb as always. Love the lizards, and that's some good freehand work on the marine banner and fist.

McMullet
06-12-2006, 12:45
Cheers guys! :)

Next on the list is finishing of the unit of Terradons. I have the three bases and riders done, plus two of the beasts themselves finished (example of one here (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p12085876.html)). I'm not entirely happy with the look of them, but since I'm on a bit of a tight schedule I don't think I'll do much retouching for the moment. I've got another 45 Saurus to do for next March, after all. :cries:

Current status

To paint and assemble:

16 more Saurus Warriors (hand weapons)
Saurus Hero with great weapon (conversion)

To paint:

14 Saurus Warriors (hand weapons)
15 Saurus Warriors (spears)
5 Skinks (javelins)
Saurus Battle Standard Bearer

To finish/retouch:

1 Terradon
Skink Priest

To repaint if I have time:

3 Kroxigor
3 Jungle Swarm bases

Completed

13 Skinks (blowpipes)
5 Skinks (javelins)
10 Saurus Warriors (hand weapons)
5 Saurus Warriors (spears)

Jedi152
06-12-2006, 12:51
So you're still planning to bring them to Carnage? Good to hear it - hopefully i will actually be able to make it next year...

Rich 123
06-12-2006, 13:02
Horray for trying to rush stuff for Carnage! i know what you're going through mate!

Good to see some progress. The unifying colour scheme really ties them all together well and I like the different coloured spawnings on their crests :)

I'm looking forward to seeing all the terradons, I always rather liked them!

Good luck with getting them all done.
Dicky

McMullet
07-12-2006, 11:45
So you're still planning to bring them to Carnage? Good to hear it - hopefully i will actually be able to make it next year...

That's the idea, yes. Even if I don't finish everything in the list, I have a Slann I could take instead (which eats 500 points or so) and some Chameleon Skinks (140) to pad it out. I'd love to do the Saurus-heavy army though, it's just proper.

Hopefully see you there (undead, right?).


Horray for trying to rush stuff for Carnage! i know what you're going through mate!

Good to see some progress. The unifying colour scheme really ties them all together well and I like the different coloured spawnings on their crests :)

I'm looking forward to seeing all the terradons, I always rather liked them!

Good luck with getting them all done.
Dicky

Ta very much. :) Like I said, I'm not overly happy with colours on the Terradons, but they'll have to do for the moment.

Started on another 10 Saurus last night, let's see how we go...

cookiescrumble
07-12-2006, 16:33
Nice looking minis McMullet, hope you get them done for Carnage.

Hopefully i'll also get my Orcs done and maybe we'll meet on the table once again.

"Dem Lizzies ain't so big Boss".

Jedi152
07-12-2006, 17:22
That's the idea, yes. Even if I don't finish everything in the list, I have a Slann I could take instead (which eats 500 points or so) and some Chameleon Skinks (140) to pad it out. I'd love to do the Saurus-heavy army though, it's just proper.

Hopefully see you there (undead, right?).
That's me. I look forward to meeting you and your finished lizards! :)

75hastings69
07-12-2006, 17:25
Really nice work McMullet those Saurus look excellent!!

Arhalien
07-12-2006, 17:27
Very nice, i love the yellow/cream underbellies, nice and original. Also strange to see a fantasy log on here, all seems to be 40k atm.

McMullet
09-02-2007, 10:43
Thanks chaps. It's only, what, a couple of months, and already I have another update for you! Blistering speed!

I can tell you for nowt that I'm sick and tuired of painting Saurus Warriors, in particular the spines on their backs and the edge highlights on the shield. Anyways, I'm now past the half way mark with them, having completed 35, including this unit of 20:

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvdd5.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvdds.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvddc.jpg

I've also finished the unit of 3 Terradons:

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvdd9.jpg

[continued...]

McMullet
09-02-2007, 10:56
....

And 3 Jungle Swarm bases:

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvdde.jpg

The second skink unit is completed:

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvddg.jpg

And I also decided to put the finishing touches to some Chameleon Skinks I painted some time ago:

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvdd4.jpg

I wasn't originally planning to include these in the army I want to finish for March, but given my lack of motivation to paint Saurus Warriors it may be necessary to change my plans.

Finally, here's a shot of the whole army as it stands:

http://images.fotopic.net/ylvddh.jpg

Bigger pictures

Saurus:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461865.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461866.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461867.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461868.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461869.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461870.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461871.html

Terradons:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461872.html

Swarms:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461873.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461874.html

Chameleon Skinks:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461875.html

Normal Skinks:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461876.html

Whole army:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461877.html

My Hi-tech lighting setup:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461878.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461879.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461880.html

My new desk (I suppose that should be updated):
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461881.html

My shelf:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461882.html

And finally... a question, O Warseers. I am starting to think that painting coloured splodges™ on the crests of the Saurus is a bad idea, as it will lead to confusion about sacred markings. Hence, I am thinking that I will paint over the red and green splodged Saurus and just leave the yellow ones (who really do have the mark of Tlazcotl). If anyone has any thoughts, do tell.

Cheers for looking!

Jim Reaper
09-02-2007, 17:15
Looking very good indeed sir - the coloured splodges especially work nicely to unite the unit as well as the whole spawning thingy. The jungle swarms are mighty nice as well, the rattlesnake fella looks particularly good.

I think 'twould be a shame to lose the coloured splodges, as I mentioned they work very well to unite the unit and break up the general blue-ness.

To be honest I would be tempted to ignore those who would have a problem with the colouring even after you've explained it to them, possibly whilst deploying a few choice words impugning their honour. If you're set on avoiding such confrontation, myself I would go for some more subdued colours (scorched brown perhaps? Even white isn't impossible given that the Old Ones spawning is albino rather than white markings) to keep the theme going.

McMullet
09-02-2007, 17:22
Hmm, I hadn't thought of a darker brown. It didn't really occur to me originally, as I was thinking of something more contrasting, but I suppose that a more muted colour would make more sense for these non-blesséd Saurus.

I'll certainly bear the scorched brown idea in mind, cheers.

Arhalien
09-02-2007, 17:28
Excellent painting Mcmullet, really good work. Those swarms are brilliant :D

Anardakil
09-02-2007, 19:00
Wow! Those are probably the best lizardmen I've seen. Awesome work. I love the painting style and choice of colours. Great job!
They would look even more smashing with a few jungle plants and the like though.

McMullet
12-02-2007, 13:51
Thanks guys, very kind of you. :)

I would like to go back and jazz the bases up at some point, especially for the skinks, but for the moment I'm on a schedule so I must crack on. I'm currently working on magnetising the terradons and riders, so I don't have to blutack them in place... :eek:

Anyone have any more thoughts about the unit markings/sacred spawnings issue?

Badgobbla
12-02-2007, 15:20
Do you have any pics of what the situation with the markings/splodges is right now and maybe how you would like them to look? It's just because I don't see what you're trying to say.

Painting looks nice and crisp btw.

Also, maybe a tip on your gold: When I paint this I always paint it with a thinned down layer of chestnut wash and then some small highlights of pure gold and a mix of gold/silver.

Roel?
12-02-2007, 16:24
Your Lizardmen look awesome! Sure as hell makes me wanna do a lizard army again :>.

McMullet
12-02-2007, 17:24
Thanks Roel. :)


Do you have any pics of what the situation with the markings/splodges is right now and maybe how you would like them to look? It's just because I don't see what you're trying to say.

Sure thing. :)

It's the colours on the head crests that I mean.
Green splodges: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36351726.html
Yellow: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p34261784.html
Red: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38461865.html
And there are 5 of each in this "unit": http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p36711470.html

Problem is, the yellow guys are marked by Tlazcotl, whereas the red and green coloured ones aren't actually marked by anything, even though red and green are associated with the marks of Sotek and Tzunki respectively. There's no real hard and fast convention on how to show markings, indeed the book says things like, "they often show a tange of yellow" rather thna saying they're always yellow. In a friendly game the confusion wouldn't be a problem, but I'm thinking it might be more serious at a tournament.


Painting looks nice and crisp btw.

Thanks! :)


Also, maybe a tip on your gold: When I paint this I always paint it with a thinned down layer of chestnut wash and then some small highlights of pure gold and a mix of gold/silver.

Currently I'm going Copper > Chestnut Ink > Burnished gold. I want a darker, coppery/bronzy look to the gold, since that's the Aztec style (copper-gold alloys). I would like to put a few more layers in but I don't really have time...

Destris
12-02-2007, 18:00
Wow, those lizzies look amazing!

Steve

Asuril
12-02-2007, 18:44
Absolutely stunning! It's seriously making me want to run a lizardmen force now! >.> Damn you!

On the "Splodges [TM]" dilema, why not put the markings on the shields, instead of on the crests? I don't think shields are born with sacred markings, so there shouldn't be any confusion there. ;]

If the "Splodges [TM]" don't look right on the shields (and they might not), you could try painting random scales on the shield teal/bright red/yellow instead of the current crimson.

I guess it would sorta look like polka dots (not to be confused with pokedots, which may or may not be small collectable critters).

Maybe worth considering.

Anyway, keep updating! More more more! This army is awesome!

McMullet
12-02-2007, 19:57
The shield idea is not bad at all! I like that. As you say, painting colours straight on might be a little strange, but I could always paint some symbols on the shields (though that sounds suspiciously like freehand... I like freehand, but it takes time which I do not have right now :p).

The alternative is just to paint something under the base so I know which models go with which unit, and then have markings on the unit standard.

Badgobbla
13-02-2007, 15:41
I like the idea of having identical markings on all the models of one unit, as it makes them easier to recognize from above. So, I'd go back and paint over them, but that's just me (I'm kinda anal on these things).

McMullet
13-02-2007, 15:59
But, when I actually get around to finishing the three units, there will be one unit with red, one with yellow and one with green marks. So each unit will have its own colour. Is that what you mean? Or am I being slow? :p

spikedog
13-02-2007, 17:01
Wow I totally missed the updates to this thread, stoopid email! *Shakes fist*

The Lizardmen are looking very hot and the army shot makes them look even better. Congratulations on getting so much done.

So what else can we be expecting to see in this and indeed any other projects you have lined up for the near future?

Badgobbla
14-02-2007, 07:04
But, when I actually get around to finishing the three units, there will be one unit with red, one with yellow and one with green marks. So each unit will have its own colour. Is that what you mean? Or am I being slow? :p

Euhm, what was the question again? :skull:

No, I thought you wanted all of the units to have the yellow mark, right? So that's why I said that you should paint the yellow blotches on all of them.

Asuril
14-02-2007, 12:50
No.

His dilemma is that he wants each unit to have some sort of color to unify them. One unit with red Splodges [TM], one with yellow, etc.

However, he's considering changing it from Splodges [TM] to something else because he does not want his opponent to confuse these unit markings with Sacred Spawnings.

Get it?

McMullet
14-02-2007, 16:09
That's the ticket! :p

Looking at the different colours, I am currently thinking that the red and green will just be darker and thus less prominent than the yellow. Coupled with a bit standard with Tlazcotl's glyph on it, I think I'll be OK. It'll be a quick job to paint ove rth ered and green guys' Splodges [TM] if needs be.


Wow I totally missed the updates to this thread, stoopid email! *Shakes fist*

The Lizardmen are looking very hot and the army shot makes them look even better. Congratulations on getting so much done.

So what else can we be expecting to see in this and indeed any other projects you have lined up for the near future?

Thanks! I'm still working on the Lizards until the 22nd of March. Then I'm taking whatever is done so far to Carnage. :p Hopefully that'll be 3 full units of Saurus, but I'll have enough for some kid of army.

After that, I have my nids to start (nearly 3000 points, mostly unassembled), plus the remainder of the Lizardmen, and few things to paint and retouch for my Crimson Fists. Plus, of course, the "next" army, whatever that may be...

Aelyn
14-02-2007, 16:53
What about keeping the blotches, but for the Spawned unit also painting some of the scales down the back, to make it stand out a little more?

Or, if you're deadset on removing the blotches (I really like them, is all), you could change the colours of the stone / wood on the handles on the weapons, shade their snouts slightly, put markings on the shields...

Or, my personal favourite, base them slightly differently while maintaining a theme (have one unit with a muddy base and a couple shoots, one with more grass and one almost borderline watery.)

DLord
14-02-2007, 22:07
Loving the uk flag snake on the swarm!! Amazing speed of work for the super high standard too! army looking good

Malchek
15-02-2007, 00:34
Hi Mcmullet - if the army you bring to the X Legion Tactica tournament is anything like this you've pretty much got the best army prize sewn up! Beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

McMullet
15-02-2007, 11:24
I'll be bringing my Crimson Fists to your tourney Mal - Hopefully I'll be able to make a more useful army of them, the armylist I used for the last two Carnage events was pretty poor (over half my army - command squad, commander and Land Raider - in one model at deployment. D'oh!). I swore I wouldn't buy any more space marines, but the new devastators are just too nice!

@DLord - Thanks! :) The snake is meant to look like a King Snake, but now you mention it he does look rather... Patriotic.


What about keeping the blotches, but for the Spawned unit also painting some of the scales down the back, to make it stand out a little more?

Or, if you're deadset on removing the blotches (I really like them, is all), you could change the colours of the stone / wood on the handles on the weapons, shade their snouts slightly, put markings on the shields...

Or, my personal favourite, base them slightly differently while maintaining a theme (have one unit with a muddy base and a couple shoots, one with more grass and one almost borderline watery.)

Idea number 1 I like a lot. I think that just got moved to the top of the list. Have a virtual cookie! :D

I think I'll keep the bases consistent, since the appearance of a lot of other stuff varies a lot.

Asuril
15-02-2007, 13:22
Actually McMullet, I was just about to recommend the same. If you look at the 1st and 5th examples of the Lizardmen on page 41 of the 6th Edition Army Book, I think that is what both Aelyn and I had in mind.

That would really make it obvious as to which had sacred spawnings, making the Splodges [TM] more recognizeable as just being unit markings.

Congrats Aelyn on the cookie :-P

Hope to see some updated pictures with the new plan! :D

Jedi152
15-02-2007, 13:31
Looking good! Glad to see these are still on their way to Carnage, can't wait to see them.

Post a few pics of your new ideas, and we'll see if it works...

McMullet
15-02-2007, 14:24
I'm painting the Battle Standard Bearer (the limited edition one from the 2004 box set) at the moment, but I'll try and have a go at a few yellow scales tonight and take some snaps. :)

mrtn
15-02-2007, 16:20
I'll just delurk and say that I enjoy this thread. Keep up the good work! :)

cookiescrumble
15-02-2007, 16:26
Nice to see some progress Sam, looking good aswell.

I should really start getting my Ogres done as i only have 5 weeks, but having £300 of new Eldar stuff is serving as a distraction.

Good luck with this, hope to see the finished army soon.

McMullet
16-02-2007, 16:07
Thank you gentlemen. :)

Here's an attempt at some yellow scales:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymym13.jpg

I think that looks OK, so I'm going to use this method. For the moment I'm having a few on the upper back, do you think I should continue them all the way to the tail?

You can see the BSB in the background there, looking very sad and WIP at the moment, but hopefully I'll get him done over the weekend. Then I can paint some more Saurus Warriors next week. :cries:

spikedog
16-02-2007, 16:09
Those scales are hawt! A whole unit of those will look so good.

I hope you don't mind but if I ever end up collecting some Lizards I am totally stealing that idea!

Aelyn
16-02-2007, 16:34
I'd say those scales look just right McMullet, they don't overpower the base scheme but are still easily identifiable and very noticable.

Angel Robertson
16-02-2007, 18:10
Yeah the scales look nice but i would continue them all the way down the back!!

AR

Jim Reaper
17-02-2007, 18:48
Ah yes, those scales look excellent! I would have to disagree with AR though, I'd keep them as they are - they don't look like a "stripe" right now which they would if continued down the tail. It might overwhelm the colour scheme as well.

Very good work though, a unit like that will look fantastic.

Asuril
17-02-2007, 21:28
Looks awesome buddy.

Keep it as it, though I'd add about 2-3 scales that sort of drape across the Saurus' shoulders. Just one or two or three, like in a triangular shape, to keep it balanced around his arms.

If that's not clear enough, I'll attempt a diagram.

The right side of the above pictured saurus yellow scale lay out:

CURRENTLY:

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plasticfrog
17-02-2007, 23:00
My vote is tp keep it as it is now.

It stands out, BUT, it is quite minimalist and doesn't overwhelm the scheme you already have (as someone pointed out earlier).

That's my vote.

Looks fantastic. Why change it?

Asuril
18-02-2007, 00:36
Because right now the arms look a bit 'bare'.

Kinda looks like the Saurus is wearing a yellow muscle shirt. I think he should try it, I think he'll like it.

McMullet
18-02-2007, 15:51
CURRENTLY:

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Asuril, I'm not too sure about that idea, but the sheer awesomeness of your ASCII Saurus scale diagram means I have to try it. I'm also not keen on the idea of going all the way to the tail, mainly because the scales at the end of the tail are too small. The examples in the army book paint the spines in the same colour, which would work better, but I like my bony spines.

Thank you all for your comments. I'll post pics of Asuril's idea and (hopefully) my completed BSB tomorrow. :)

Arhalien
18-02-2007, 15:52
Great yellow on the scales there McMullet.

McMullet
19-02-2007, 11:42
Thanks Arhalien. :)

Here're some pics:

Firstly, scales going out over the shoulder:

http://images.fotopic.net/ym2k4g.jpg

I'm still not convinced I'm afraid...

Secondly, the Battle Standard Bearer:

http://images.fotopic.net/ym2k4d.jpg http://images.fotopic.net/ym2k48.jpg

He's not quite finished yet - the gold parts still need some more highlights, and I have to figure out some way to highlight the copper while still allowing it to look different from the gold. I also need to get some purple into this colour scheme, to denote the spawning of Tepok - I think this one will be marked by some item he's carrying or something (maybe I'll stick on some purple feathers or something). If anyone has any super ideas though...

More pics:

BSB:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38752239.html

Scales:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38752251.html

spikedog
19-02-2007, 12:07
I think I agree with you McMullet, I think you should leave the scales as they were in a thin line down the centre of the back.

The BSB is ace, I especially like the horns on the standard itself.

McMullet
21-02-2007, 11:42
Thanks! :)

Well, there don't seem to be many strong opinions... I'll stick to the minimal scales then I guess.

This isn't a proper update; I have done a little painting over the last couple of days (some more on the BSB, and a bit of a Kroxigor), but I've got no pictures so it doesn't really count.

However, I have 1. Decided I can't finish all of the Saurus I want to take and 2. Played a game with my army as I plan to take it to Carnage. Number 1 means a revised list, which will now look like this:

Saurus Scar Veteran (General) (needs stripping, converting and painting)
Saurus Scar Veteran (BSB) (nearly done)
Skink Priest (needs retouching a spot)
Scouting Skink Chief (NOT flying) (needs painting)

20 Saurus with hand weapons (done)
10 scouting Skinks (Javelins) (done)
13 Skinks (Blowpipes) (done)
3 Jungle Swarm bases (done)

3 Kroxigor (need repainting if there's time)
6 Chameleon Skinks (done)
3 Terradons (done)
20 Saurus Warriors with spears and Spawning of Tlazcotl (mostly done)

As for number 2... I got massacred by Jim Reaper's Dwarfs (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22500). However, I think the army did do what it should've done, and the loss was due more to my own foolish tactics; I neutralised his missile units in the first couple of turns, but then failed to capitalise on it. I should have picked my targets but ended up getting into combat with the Dwarf Lord of Death and his unit of hammerers. Oops.

Asuril
21-02-2007, 16:05
Hehe, thanks for humoring me Mullet. I still think I was right, and prefer the look with a few scattered scales on the shoulder, but it's your army.

It looks fantasy either way. ;)

Keep 'em coming.

sheep
21-02-2007, 16:15
Good to see some well painted Lizzes, they all look great, and i agree with you, the small line down the back looks best.

The BSB is rockin too, gives off a very Aztec vibe

Well done, look forward to more.

Cheers

Sheep

Arhalien
21-02-2007, 20:00
ooh, a BSB :) Nice work on that there McMullet, I look forward to seeing it finished.

Badgobbla
22-02-2007, 08:45
Firstly, scales going out over the shoulder:


I like the mini with the scales going over the shoulder, mind. At least better than the one with the scales running along the crest.

But I see your point that you're not convinced on the whole thing. On the whole it looks a bit "unnatural". Maybe you could look at some nature pics of real lizards and see how they have their scales done?

McMullet
22-02-2007, 12:29
Thanks for your comments chaps. :)

Asuril: I guess you'll have to start your own lizard army to prove me wrong... ;)

BG: The random cluster of yellow scales is indeed fairly unnatural-looking. The rest of my colour scheme is comparatively natural and the sudden cluster of yellow does perhaps spoil that. However, I suppose being blessed by an ancient, unfathomable, godlike being is, itself, fairly unnatural so it's not unreasonable that the blessed models should stand out.

In any case, I like the way it looks and I can't really be bothered to find another way, so it'll just have to do. ;)

More pics at the weekend I hope. :)

Asuril
22-02-2007, 18:21
Dunno about that, how about I give my dwarfs some shoulder scales? XD

McMullet
25-02-2007, 16:05
Dwarfen Spawnings, eh? Well, it's different, I'll give you that...

I've gotten a bit done over the weekend, starting with this:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymsj7t.jpg

That's some old models in a jar of meths. Mmm, meths. Something of a retrograde step in a painting log, I know, but necessary for the next steps. As well as some of my old models, there're some I bought from eBay in there.

Next up, I started painting a Kroxigor and, indeed, finished painting said Kroxigor. One might summarise this procedure by saying I painted a Kroxigor. Here it is:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymsj8f.jpg

More/fullsize pics:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937311.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937313.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937316.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937318.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937322.html

Next up, the finishing touches to my BSB. I decided to show the spawning of Tepok subtly, by giving him purple eyes and purple cords tying his armour together rather than purple scales.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymsj7u.jpg

More pics:
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937307.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937308.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937309.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38937310.html

Finally, I retouched my Skink Priest a bit. Nothing spectacular but he'll do.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymsj8g.jpg

Comments and criticisms welcome!

Arhalien
25-02-2007, 16:08
Nice work there Mcmullet. The Kroxigor is great and so is the bsb. One thing is that I can;t really see the purple on the bsb very well; only on the last pic there. Personally I think it should be a bit bolder, just to mark him out. Still very good though :D

spikedog
25-02-2007, 16:09
Nice, Nice and Nice.

I bet the Kroxigor looks nice smashing his way out of a Skink unit.

I really like the priest, I like the albino look.

sigur
25-02-2007, 16:23
Yay, update time! I wish I was as disciplined as you when it comes to painting. Anyway, let's comment and critisize.

You seem to have found yourself a good compromise between painting standard and the time factor. The Kroxigor is looking very nice; the metal spikes on his back show that your way of painting metallics works very well. I'm sure this guy fits with the rest of the army and will tie in well while standing out due to his size only. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that I like that you resisted slapping on another colour.

The same goes for the BSB; I'm sure I would have used more different colours on the banner to make it stand out a bit more. Still, I think another step of subtle, finishing highlights might make the standard a bit more flashier.

Meh, a Skink Shaman, eh? Lvl2, eh? Raining death upon my poor Druchii again, EH!?:mad: ...too many painful experiences with those little guys. This one's looking neat, clean painting and nice blending on the crest. The only thing I could critisize about this mini is the skull on top of the staff, it looks a bit too grainy/greyish but apart from that, he'll do nicely. ("do" = raining Comets of Cassandora and Lightning Bolts in my direction :mad: )

Anyway, nice to see your army getting painted in a steady flow, keep up the good work!

P.S.: Could you give us a list of what you still have to paint with the next update please?:)

cookiescrumble
25-02-2007, 16:31
Some very nice models there Sam, the thing I was wondering, was how would the yellow scales on the Saurus look on the Kroxigor. I think this would tie them in with the army more and would look fantastic.

McMullet
25-02-2007, 17:26
Thanks chaps! :)

Arhalien: I know what you mean about the purple. However, there is no set way to show a sacred marking, and I want to avoid overdoing the purple. The problem is that my general will have the spawning of Yellow and the spawning of Purple. If I showed the purple spawning by painting scales in the same way as the yellow one, this would leave my general having a mix of yellow and purple scales, which would look pretty horrific. Since the spawning is not really relevant to the model itself (it doesn't affect him, it just generates and extra dispel die for the army as a whole), it's not so important for WYSIWYG so the subtle way of showing it will have to do. You can see it a bit in the last pic, as you say, and that'll just have to do I'm afraid. ;)

Sigur: The standard is highlighted up to whatever the lightest gold colour is. I think it looks a bit dark in the pics thanks to the lighting, as it's angled forwards a bit. I'll take some better pics next time I have the camera out and you can have another look. :)

I know what you mean about the priest; I painted him about 2 years ago and a lot of the paintjob ain't great. I overlooked the skull when I was touching him up (matron!), I agree it needs redoing.

Cookie: The yellow scales thing is to show the Sacred Spawning of Tlazcotl that one of the Saurus units has. The Kroxigor can't take spawnings so I couldn't paint them with the yellow scales. Would've looked nice though, as you say. Cheers all the same!

NightLord
25-02-2007, 18:16
This is a very cool army! I was wondering what colors are used for your army. I dont need any technqiue's. I am wanting to know because I have some temple guard to paint and have been thinking about doing a Lizardman army but havent been able to decide on a color scheme.

McMullet
26-02-2007, 09:39
Nightlord: Thanks! The three main colours I use are as follows:

Scales: Regal blue, enchanted blue, ice blue, washed with midnight blue.

Belly: Vomit brown, washed with scorched brown and drybrushed with bleached bone.

Shields: Dark flesh, red gore, black wash, blood red, highlights of fiery orange.

Hope that's useful. :)

First in today's update: One of these mysterious "other things": A hormagaunt. I painted half of this model last night while watching a Babylon 5 movie. Still not sure on the scheme (especially the claws).

http://images.fotopic.net/ym7753.jpg

Here are some better pictures of the BSB:

http://images.fotopic.net/ym77fz.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ym775y.jpg

As you can see, a slight change in lighting changes the brightness of the gold a lot. When I have time to set my lighting up properly I can take some better pics.

[cont.]

McMullet
26-02-2007, 09:42
Now, the re-re-retouched skink priest:

http://images.fotopic.net/ym7751.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ym7752.jpg

Next up, I'm trying to greenstuff some light armour onto this skink chief. It's not great because I don't have much time or skill with the stuff.

http://images.fotopic.net/ym775f.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ym7755.jpg

Any comments on this (especially ideas to make it better with my mediocre sculpting) would be most welcome.

Reflex
26-02-2007, 10:21
Lizardmen are hard bugers to paint... i think your doing a fantastic job...

could it be possible to get some closer or more shots of the skink priest?

McMullet
26-02-2007, 18:26
Thanks! If you go to my main gallery here (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p38967013.html) and then click on the images, you can get a full size version of the picture (hopefully that's big enough ;)).

Asuril
26-02-2007, 18:41
Wow, I love your army so much man. How about a group shot sometime? :3


But that Hormagaunt, I dunno bud... Looks good, but have you considered bringing his carapace down over his shoulders? I think it might look more natural.

Now:

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McMullet
27-02-2007, 12:19
What?! You and your crazy ASCII painting advice again! :D

I'm not overly keen on the idea of converting hormagaunts. I'll have 64 of them to do so something like extending the carapace a bit on all of them would be very boring. :p I'm going to paint the other side of that model in a slightly different scheme and take a photo from a more natural angle (slightly above the model) and we can see how that looks. Cheers for the idea anyway!

Regarding that other army, Reptilomen or whatever it was, I've started on converting my General's great weapon, once that and the Skink Chief are done I can undercoat them and the remaining two Kroxigor and then we're on the home straight! Those 4 models and a handful of Saurus and I'll be ready for Carnage North. Then you can get your whole army shot. :)

spikedog
27-02-2007, 12:31
Hey Mc,

I really like your 'nid. The colour scheme is very nice, the only thing I would change would be to smooth out some of the highlights on the skin sections but as this is a test I'm sure you have plans for this already.

As for your GS work on the Skink chief, I like that also (starting to see a theme here?) the armour looks smooth and clean. I think you should add some details on it though. You could do these with paint or you could model them on. Some sort of a trim would be good, using the normal Lizardmen/Aztec themes.

Keep it up Mc.

Asuril
27-02-2007, 18:53
:-P

I was joking, it looks great. I really love that gold on the BSB.

RizzenBlade
28-02-2007, 06:20
With the sculpting you are better than a lot i have seen, but you should just model it in layers, sculpting takes a lot of time to be done right.

Anyway how do you paint your gold, mine is too dark methinks

Caligula
28-02-2007, 06:40
I really, really like the colour scheme you're using here, McMullet! I think the way you execute it has something to do with it too, of course;)

Seriously, some very impressive Lizardmen...I'd hazard to say some of the best I've ever seen.

McMullet
28-02-2007, 12:14
Spikedog: The hormie is very rough at the moment, yes. I'm thinking the best way to paint them in bulk is to get some snakebite leather spray (well, something close to it since GW don't do coloured spray any more) to make the job quicker. As for the armour... see below.

RizzenBlade: I have tried to do the sculpting in layers, the main problem is I don't feel that confident with it, and so I feel like I'm wasting my time spending ages on it. I have done these armour plates in two stages though, one for the plate itself (painted as black stone) and then a later of trim (gold). Speaking of gold: For the Saurus, I paint it very simply; Hammered Copper > Chestnut Ink > Shining Gold. This makes it look like Tumbaga, a copper-gold alloy which would be more plentiful than pure gold. On the BSB, I painted more carefully, and tried to make it look like pure gold, painting in the following layers: Tinny Tin (Tin Bitz) > Brassy Brass > Shining Gold > Chestnut Ink > Burnished Gold. Hope that helps!

Caligula: Thanks a lot. :)

Now, back to the work. Here's the Skink Chief's armour "finished" - I'm not ecstatic with the result but I think I can cover the roughness when I paint it.

http://images.fotopic.net/ym8x55.jpg


http://images.fotopic.net/ym8x5s.jpg

And here's the start of my Scar Veteran with great weapon (looking a little like yours, Rizzenblade, I must confess...).

http://images.fotopic.net/ym8x5c.jpg

Obviously he needs a weapon of some sort to go on the end of that stick.

A few more pics in my gallery (including full-size ones): http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/c1088602.html

C&C most welcome!

Hideous Loon
28-02-2007, 12:46
I love your Lizzies, Mullet, they look sweet. Subtle work with the Spawning-thing on the BSB, much better than yelling: "This mini has the Spawning of Tepok!"

RizzenBlade
28-02-2007, 14:29
Yeah I painted the gold the same way on my saurus as I did on all my heroes and it just doesnt have the same effect, thanks for that help, think I just need the brighter layer, although my current dark gold is starting to grow on me a little, might just do some ares on the bsb that are a bit brighter

NightLord
02-03-2007, 01:45
I need my fix. Where are those new Lizzies :p

McMullet
02-03-2007, 11:58
Well, here's some pitchers...

I'm currently painting some more [projectile vomits] Saurus Warriors. However, I'm also working on my Scar Veteran still, so here's a couple of shots of possible weapon options. Please tell me, oh Warseers, which you prefer...

The less blocky one:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymc4zl.jpg

The more blocky one:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymc4zk.jpg

Once I've decided, I can undercoat the last 4 models and then I'll be 9 models away from 2000 points.

Jim Reaper
02-03-2007, 12:20
Looking good - now you just need to push on through the pain barrier. Don't worry if everything starts going grey.

As to the Scar-Veteran, I'd go for the more blocky one. The first head makes the weapon look more like a glaive/polearm kind of thing, and the way he's holding it doesn't look right for such a weapon. The second one just looks like a big whacking mace, which seems more appropriate for the position of his hands.

RizzenBlade
02-03-2007, 12:26
Looking good - now you just need to push on through the pain barrier. Don't worry if everything starts going grey.

As to the Scar-Veteran, I'd go for the more blocky one. The first head makes the weapon look more like a glaive/polearm kind of thing, and the way he's holding it doesn't look right for such a weapon. The second one just looks like a big whacking mace, which seems more appropriate for the position of his hands.

I disagree, to me it looks more like a sweeping motion with the hands, anyway either one works in its own way.

I didnt realise the temple guard champion looked that good, guess he will have to become my cold one scar veteran

Asuril
03-03-2007, 02:03
I usually just go with whichever is largest for my heroes.

You gonna put the other end of the hilt under his lower hand? I think you should. :)

Badgobbla
03-03-2007, 10:17
I like the blocky weapon McM, better than the little one at least. I don't think heroes or characters of that size would take a smallsih weapon into combat.

McMullet
03-03-2007, 11:46
Then the blocky (and easier to pin) one it shall be!


You gonna put the other end of the hilt under his lower hand? I think you should. :)

I might do. However, that part of the hand will probably be covered by his shield, so I'm not sure it's worth it.

Asuril
03-03-2007, 20:08
Ahh, good point. I'm always happy when the shield covers up a good portion of my minis... means less highlighting I have to do. ;)

McMullet
05-03-2007, 11:24
Heh, amen to that!

A minor update with a few pictures...

The Skink Chief and Scar veteran are converted and undercoated. Here're some unpainted pictures:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymbccz.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymbccw.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymbccv.jpg

I've started painted the Chief, and a couple of Kroxigor. The shoddy picture below shows the extent of what's left to be done: 2 half done Kroxigor, 10 Saurus in various stages of completion and the 2 characters. Since everything is now at least undercoated, this is a legal tournament army at least...

http://images.fotopic.net/ymbcay.jpg


There's also a movement tray for the second Saurus unit that needs painting and static-grassing.

Arhalien
05-03-2007, 13:23
Good conversions on both of those Mcmullet; the great weapon saurus looks particularlry good :)

McMullet
09-03-2007, 11:56
Thanks Arhalien!

I'm not dead folks, I'm still painting away. Here's the current state of affairs:

Saurus Scar Veteran (General) (needs painting)
Saurus Scar Veteran (BSB) (nearly done)
Skink Priest (needs retouching a spot)
Scouting Skink Chief (NOT flying) (needs finishing)

20 Saurus with hand weapons (done)
10 scouting Skinks (Javelins) (done)
13 Skinks (Blowpipes) (done)
3 Jungle Swarm bases (done)

3 Kroxigor (1 done, the other two partly done)
6 Chameleon Skinks (done)
3 Terradons (done)
20 Saurus Warriors with spears and Spawning of Tlazcotl (5 models to finish, a movement tray to paint)

I'm working on the Skink Chief for the moment:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymd4u2.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ymd4u3.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymd4uf.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ymd4u5.jpg

Aside from his weapon and shield (not shown), he's mostly done. The only tricky part left is painting on some blood - painting blood onto weapons is something I gave up some time ago, but since this chap is holding a recently extricated heart in his hand I can't get away from it... I'm planning to use a mix of PVA and red paint, applied after the model is varnished. If anyone has a better idea, do tell.

Thanks for looking!

cookiescrumble
09-03-2007, 12:19
Looks amazing as always Sam, look forward to playing them on Sunday and to get a better look.

Jedi152
09-03-2007, 12:25
Yes, they're looking pretty damn good! Any chance of a full army shot?

Arhalien
09-03-2007, 13:37
Ooh, nice Skink; the blue is wonderfully vibrant.

I look forward to more :)

McMullet
10-03-2007, 14:27
Looks amazing as always Sam, look forward to playing them on Sunday and to get a better look.

Likewise... now get working on those Ogres. :p


Yes, they're looking pretty damn good! Any chance of a full army shot?

All in good time... when the last few models are done (which will probably be in a week or so).


Ooh, nice Skink; the blue is wonderfully vibrant.

I look forward to more :)

Thank you sir! Well, here he is, finished. I fear I may have overdone the blood, but I guess it'll do.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymd024.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ymd02g.jpg

[cont]

McMullet
10-03-2007, 14:29
Continuated:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymd02h.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ymd02i.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ymd02x.jpg

spikedog
10-03-2007, 14:35
Wow.... simply wow.

I love it, I don't know what else to say. I think every part of it is perfect, seriously.

Bravo.

Paulus
10-03-2007, 16:04
Love that Skink Chief McMullet, looks great!

Asuril
10-03-2007, 22:14
Looks great. :]

Very... uhm... Temple of Doom.

"Kali Ma Shakti De!"

CMDante
11-03-2007, 03:07
Good quality of painting throughout in this thread. The GS work on the most recent mini, while possibly not immediately noticeable now that he's painted (this is a very good thing since it shows the conversion work fits seemlessly!) is very good. The blood lets you down a little though I feel. It still looks a little too "ooooh 80's horror red paint!" than blood. Try mixing a little flesh wash and black ink with red gore for a fresh blood effect and maybe mix in a little gloss varnish to taste. Alternatively Tamaya make a paint called "clear colour red" or something to this effect, which works very well for creating fresh blood effects.

Cheers,

Dante

Arhalien
11-03-2007, 11:54
As I said before; excellent, simply excellent. I take my hat off to you sir :D

NightLord
12-03-2007, 04:01
That skink is awesome! It looked like an old blood for a moment because it was such an imposing model. Tommorow I am going to try out your tech. on painting my temple guard, wish me luck!

violenceha
12-03-2007, 05:02
Holy *******' crap! That Lizzie colour scheme is awesome! Congrats McMullet, first lizardman army I've even liked the look of, awesome work!

McMullet
12-03-2007, 14:25
Gentlemen, very kind of you.

Dante: I agree about the blood. As soon as I started painting it I though, erp, too bright and too opaque. It looks somewhat like red paint, rather than blood. That said, at arm's length it does make the blood more prominent (a subtler type of blood might not be noticeable - at least this way you're in no doubt what's going on... :p).

NightLord: I look forward to seeing some pics. :)

Well, 10 painting days to Carnage... I have started the final 5 Saurus over the weekend, and so as well as finishing them I have to complete two Kroxigor and paint my General. Might just be doable...

Yesterday, I played a couple of games - Firstly, against Cookiescrumble's Ogres, which I lost (mainly due to a combination of silly deployment and thoughtless positioning). Never played Ogres before though, so that was instructional at least. :p

The second game was against Mrs. Urgeon's Empire, where I managed to gain a solid victory.

In both games, the skink chief excelled himself, making a unit of Ogres run away in game 1 (though they did subsequently kill him...), and charging a unit of Halberdiers with a warrior priest and running them down in game 2.

cookiescrumble
12-03-2007, 18:37
Yesterday, I played a couple of games - Firstly, against Cookiescrumble's Ogres, which I lost (mainly due to a combination of silly deployment and thoughtless positioning). Never played Ogres before though, so that was instructional at least. :p


Excuses excuses :rolleyes: .

Those bloody skinks, Possibly the most annoying things ever. He died in the end because I got the charge after a failed fear test by the skinks. Must say you were really unlucky, with Several units failing fear test and therefore giving me the charge. Great game though, probably the best I have ever had.

Now get painting, I'm trying but painting with the Flu isn't easy. It was all those ***** Chavs on that train, must carry diseases like Pigeons...

McMullet
16-03-2007, 12:22
Excuses indeed! What do you expect me to do, admit that I'm an incompetent general? :p

The painting is still progressing - the last 5 Saurus are now presentable, if not finished, and I'm hoping to finish my General over the weekend. Then it's the two Kroxigor, and some touching up on those Saurus. Pics to follow when I have something presentable...

In the meantime, I'm working on my army background. More of a Stories and Art thing maybe, but here it is anyway:


Lizardmen Army: Guardians of Pahuax

Necocyaotl stood at the crest of the hill, staring down onto the plain. Though the enemy was many miles away, he could see them clearly through the morning air. He turned and surveyed his warriors, Saurus basking in the sun, still sluggish from the night chill, the nimbler Skinks busy packing away the trappings of their encampment. They had arrived during the night, travelling through the ancient warp gates left in Hexoatl by the Old Ones ere their departure from the World.

He saw Ixquimilli, his personal standard bearer and second in command, approaching with Xiuhtecuhtli, one of the more warlike Skinks. During the night, he had led a scouting party to observe the movements of the undead creatures ahead of them. Necocyaotl called over Tlictil, the albino Skink who carried the instructions of the Slann, for a brief council before they broke camp.

The return of Xiuhtecuhtli brought good tidings: The Lizardmen would overtake their foes before they could reach a safe haven. The humans, plundering the sacred vaults of ruined Pahuax, had unearthed several relics of great power, and fled in their ships before its loss had been discovered. Even by human standards, this rogue was unscrupulous; he had sold his plunder to all comers. His head now hung at Xiuhtecuhtli’s belt, but that would not bring the sacred plaques back to Pahuax.

Necocyaotl looked over the plain again, feeling more energised as the sun rose in the sky. It would be an even fight, he estimated. However, if what the human had said ere his death was true, this would not be their last battle before they returned to Lustria – if they returned at all. Five artefacts were stolen, and their new owners would not give them up without a fight. Necocyaotl signalled that it was time to move out. He watched the Terradons take to the air, soaring in the thermals from the hillsides, and felt, rather than saw, the Chameleon Skinks disappear into the undergrowth. Xiuhtecuhtli bowed once before sprinting down the hillside with his Skink braves. Necocyaotl hefted his huge stone club and bellowed for the Saurus warriors to follow him. A rare surge of exhilaration penetrated his normally impassive mind as they marched though the windswept scrub. Difficult as their task might be, they would serve the Old Ones well. They would not fail.

Roel?
16-03-2007, 15:13
That sure is a characterful short story, really nice.

Sir McMullet, your stunning army actually made me start a new lizardmen army myself :-).

McMullet
17-03-2007, 16:29
Thanks! Good luck with your army. :)

Nothing finished per se, but a minor update with the remaining 8 WIP models.

My General - still needing some details, and more work on the gold/copper:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymistn.jpg

More pictures:

http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39479824.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39479823.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39479822.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39479821.html

The last 5 Saurus - in need of some detailing, and the standard is very WIP:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymistt.jpg

The Kroxigor - only had their bellies and toes painted so far:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymist6.jpg

C&C welcome as always. Cheers for looking!

spikedog
18-03-2007, 05:10
Nice work as usual McMullet, I really like the skull on your general's head. It looks like just boiled bone.

When can we see a pic of the army as a whole?

Arhalien
18-03-2007, 12:55
Really very good Mcmullet; that general conversion is great and looks even better with paint :)

The underbellies on the Kroxigors are also looking good.

McMullet
18-03-2007, 13:14
Thanks guys! I was pleased with how the general turned out. He's done now, bar his shield, though I forgot to take a picture of him. As for a whole army shot, I'll do a proper one when the army is finished, which has to be in the next 5 days. However, I'll do a quick snap of the models on the shelf tonight (if I remember), since a few people have asked for it now.

I'm leaving for Carnage right after work (well, technically before work ends...) on Friday, which means I have to be done by Thursday night. In the interim, I have to paint:

5 Saurus Warriors shields
1 Shield for my General
Finish those two Kroxigor
Finish the last 5 Saurus

By the way, I'm playing 40K this afternoon and then going to the pub.

McMullet
19-03-2007, 12:55
Here's some double-posting update goodness for y'all. I wont hat game of 40K yesterday but didn't go the pub, so I got some painting done instead...

Standard for the Saurus Warrior unit:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxqb.jpg

http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39543240.html
http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39543238.html

Some Saurus Shields (the one on the extreme right is for the general):

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxqd.jpg

Speaking of which, the general:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxq4.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxqh.jpg


[cont]

McMullet
19-03-2007, 13:00
More shots of the General:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxqx.jpg

With his shield: Which way do you guys prefer? In the second pic the shield is attached further back.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxqj.jpg


http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxqk.jpg

Finally, the whole army: Not the greatest picture I'm afraid.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymxxql.jpg


Fullsize: http://images1.fotopic.net/?iid=ymxxql&noresize=1&nostamp=1&quality=70

Oh, the kroxigor are a bit more done, too: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39543242.html

C&C welcome (especially on the shield positioning thing).

Cheers for looking!

Hideous Loon
19-03-2007, 13:17
Regarding the shield, I like the second posing better, as it won't obstruct the movements of the hand as much as the first, the Lizard can move his hand without being stopped by a large red shield. And the Lizards as a whole look smashing.

Arhalien
19-03-2007, 14:14
I prefer the first postioning personally. He looks very nice both ways though :D

spikedog
19-03-2007, 14:31
I too like the first shield position. Although the second maybe be more practical I like the look of the first.

By the way your link to the full size pic doesn't work, it takes you to the thumbnail. I did however look through your album and found the full pic and they great as an army.

McMullet
19-03-2007, 15:19
So it does! So much for "full size". :p That's fixed now.

Thanks all for your comments. :)

Paulus
19-03-2007, 20:37
The army as a whole looks great McMullet, uniform but still nice & colourful as you would expect with a Lizardmen army.

I'm VERY impressed!

McMullet
20-03-2007, 12:06
Thanks Paulus!

The end is in sight, folks. Last night I finished the Saurus and the general...

Last 5 Saurus Warriors:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymjag6.jpg

The completed unit:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymjagu.jpg

A couple of shots of my General, now completely finished:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymjagq.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymjagt.jpg

I went for option #2 for the shield in the end, thanks to everyone who posted an opinion either way.

Now, I have 3 nights to paint 2 Kroxigor (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39543242.html), and that's the lot! 2000 points, Carnage here I come!

C&C welcome as ever, though it's getting a bit late in the day to make any changes if you guys aren't happy with anything...

Arhalien
20-03-2007, 14:23
Excellent mcmullet; i still thik the otherb way would have loked better but it's still nice. The Saurus unit also looks very good. I like it :D

cookiescrumble
20-03-2007, 22:18
A load of crap, don't know why you bother.

McMullet, you suck...



















...hehehe, only kidding :D .

Warwolt the skaven
20-03-2007, 22:26
Lizzies, that looks good! I really like the scales :)

Lavfluris
21-03-2007, 02:30
Some people should have their fingers removed for the benefit of others. Well, chopping off your fingers still won't compel me to paint anything. :p



Now, I have 3 nights to paint 2 Kroxigor (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39543242.html), and that's the lot!Is that taking into account mrsurgeon's invitation to a games night on Thursday evening? Thought not. ;)

McMullet
21-03-2007, 12:03
Thursday evening is to be spent in the pub actually - I have an old friend visiting. By the way, I phased Mrs. Urgeon out for you on Sunday afternoon. :p Shame you couldn't make it.

Never fear though, the Kroxigor are nearly done - with the aid of a Reginald Perrin DVD (Classic 70s comedy, Leonard Rossiter ftw!) and some rather nice brandy (though a bit too much of it, I feel a bit wibbly today). All the scales are painted (that is the most loathsome and tedious part) and everything else is at least basecoated. A few details slapped on tonight (shouldn't take more than a couple of hours) and that's my army done!

Here's the current state of the Kroxigor:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymju45.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymju4f.jpg

Thanks to everyone for reading and commenting! :)

Reflex
21-03-2007, 12:18
they are lookin good so far... then when your done, take a huge Pic of your army... ;) and then heaps more pics... then give me $50... :D

sigur
21-03-2007, 14:36
Yet another update!:eek:

You're really pulling off some speed painting here, it seems, whilst keeping your high standard. Not bad. I'll be expecting full army shots by tomorrow.;)

Boss_Salvage
21-03-2007, 20:04
Go Go Go! Nice work, congrats on getting the lot done! Good luck at with the Carnage :D

- Salvage

McMullet
22-03-2007, 11:57
Thanks for the replies! :)

The army is now... finished! I had hoped to varnish/dullcote everything but there won't be time now. So I'll call this done!

First up, the Kroxigor:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbw9.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbwd.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbwe.jpg

Next up.... the shots of the whole army. Stay tuned!

Eniac
22-03-2007, 12:00
Sorry kidder, I havent read this whole thing through though it looks absolutley amazing by the way. But how do you do your bases? They look really nice!

McMullet
22-03-2007, 12:08
I have taken a couple of whole army shots. The first is a pretty standard cropped down attempt:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbw4.jpg

Full size: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39626403.html

Next, I tried something a bit new, a whole army panorama (inspired by the work of a friend of a friend). Since I don't have a funky tripod, I was restricted on the angle and so this is higher res, but at a less good angle (and the lighting isn't perfect either).

Panorama: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p39626473.html - you'll have to click again on the picture in the gallery to get the full-size version.

Next up, some more angles. these were taken without a tripod, so the picture quality is less good.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbwi.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbwh.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymkbwg.jpg

Thanks to everyone who's commented on my work over the last 6 months. C&C welcome of course, though it's a bit late now...

Cheers,

Mullet

Roel?
22-03-2007, 12:51
This looks so cool. Congratulations on your army man :-) I am amazed at the high level of painting you have achieved while painting at such great speed.

Good luck @ Carnage. May the coldblooded ones prevail!

Voltaire
22-03-2007, 13:40
Excellent stuff McMullet, I look forward to seeing this army at the weekend!

McMullet
22-03-2007, 13:47
Sorry kidder, I havent read this whole thing through though it looks absolutley amazing by the way. But how do you do your bases? They look really nice!

Thanks! The bases are very quick and easy. Apply PVA glue, apply sand, leave to dry, seal with watered down PVA, leave to dry, paint with watered down black, drybrush with graveyard earth, drybrush with khaki, splodge on some more PVA and stick in the static grass. Done.


This looks so cool. Congratulations on your army man :-) I am amazed at the high level of painting you have achieved while painting at such great speed.

Good luck @ Carnage. May the coldblooded ones prevail!

Thanks! The army's done OK in practice games so far. Sadly I'm in charge of it, and I have a knack for pulling defeat from the jaws of victory as it were. :p


Excellent stuff McMullet, I look forward to seeing this army at the weekend!

Thanks Voltaire. Good luck getting those knights painted!

spikedog
22-03-2007, 13:56
Well done Mc, very nice looking army you have finished. I hope some day in the not too distant future I get the pleasure of playing against it.

It looks really great when lined up like that, you have created a great sense of unity while still having diversity of units.

So what is next for the great McMullet?

cookiescrumble
22-03-2007, 15:57
Great work Sam, nice to see someones army is finished :D .

Hopefully we will meet on the battlefield again. ;)

Punk_in_Drublic
22-03-2007, 16:03
McMullet! I've been following your log, and even though I find Lizardmen one of the least appealing fantasy armies, you've done an awesome job in making them look good.

Bravo! Rather!

Later,

-Punk

Arhalien
22-03-2007, 16:53
Excellent Mcmullet; that is one greta looking army! :D

Paulus
22-03-2007, 19:13
Well done McMullet, great to see all your hard work has payed off.

plasticfrog
23-03-2007, 12:55
Outstanding job.

Truly outstanding.

*eyes own Empire army*... I will have to start my army soon.

McMullet
26-03-2007, 14:24
Well, my log is exactly 6 months old today! Thanks once again to everyone who has posted their advice and encouragement in this thread, I'm sure I'd have lost my motivation ages ago otherwise.

The Lizardmen did pretty well at the tournament, scoring 49/60 points on days 1... sadly I got mullered on day 2, netting only 7 points in 2 games. :p Pictures from the even are here: http://samroberts.fotopic.net/c1240114.html

I also picked up a nomination for best army, which is what I was really after. I got to play the best army winner, thepaintingmonkey - I managed to take some snaps of his Nipponese-themed Dogs of War army. Congrats to him on his win - maybe I'll get a prize next time... :cries: :p

Anyways, next up is... MARINZLOL!!! I'm playing in the X Legion Tactica 40K Tournament at the start of June, and for that I want to make some changes to my Crimson Fists list; basically, I want to be able to take an effective army but still have a shot at the best army prize. So, I need to:

Assemble and paint 10 plastic devastators
Paint 4 servitors
Finish my techmarine
Retouch a Razorback
Repaint a Predator

Not too much work for 2 months work, so I can take it easy with this one. ;)

Aflo
26-03-2007, 16:41
Great work Sam, nice to see someones army is finished :D .



Took the words from my mouth :D Although seriously dude, the level of quality throughout is the thing that really makes this army shine. Real noice.
Regards
Aflo (Adam)

The boyz
26-03-2007, 17:40
WOW McMullet congratulations, that is one of the best looking Lizardmen armies, I have seen for a long time. The painting looks superb throughout the entire army.

Reflex
27-03-2007, 00:23
EXCellent!

i am loving the warhost of your men lizards...

heh, great job. hope all the battles go well for ya. smit the enemies of the old ones.

sigur
27-03-2007, 01:06
Congratulations on the good performance of the Lizards in this one. So there must be something to this "well-painted miniatures perform better"-thing.;)

I'm looking forward to seeing your progress with the CF; your army looks great so far. Just a little question: For how long do you have this half-painted Techmarine now?:p

McMullet
27-03-2007, 10:59
Congratulations on the good performance of the Lizards in this one. So there must be something to this "well-painted miniatures perform better"-thing.;)

I'm looking forward to seeing your progress with the CF; your army looks great so far. Just a little question: For how long do you have this half-painted Techmarine now?:p

Heh, I guess so... You'd better get to work with those Dark Elvises then, eh?

Regarding the techmarine, I started painting him between 18 and 19 months ago, I forget exactly. Painting Red over with so many edges to highlight is very boring. :p

McMullet
29-03-2007, 12:41
Other things incoming!

After a week with no painting at all (quite a novelty after 6 months of solid Lizardmen) I have picked up that accurs'd Techmarine up again. Last night I (Finally!) finished the basecoat of red on his servo harness. I started off painting his armour by blending (feathering) from scorched brown to fiery orange, which is all very well but takes ages. I have decided to finish of the harness with normal highlights, which will look comparable and means I might actually get it done. Here is the current state of Mr. Techmarine (named Rúben I decided):

http://images.fotopic.net/ymp4t0.jpg

A bit more highlighting and some details and he's all done.

Once that's finished, I can start on the first repainting project, my Predator Destructor:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymp4tz.jpg

Not terribly done, but it needs rehighlighting (drybrushing tanks? Shame on you, McMullet!). I also want to add some more details and repaint the red parts.

C&C welcome. :)

tancrede
29-03-2007, 13:35
i'm not fond of the blue lizards, but it's only a matter of personnal taste.
nice painting indeed.

and i'm happy to see crimson fists !

Badgobbla
30-03-2007, 11:20
A shame you didn't go through with the blending on your techmarine McM, because I feel it would be a stunning model if you could finish it. I know those things take ages to do properly, but if it's only for a few character models I'd do it.

You know those are the models people will be picking up and looking at when you play against them, so I try to pay some extra attention to them.

McMullet
30-03-2007, 11:58
You're quite right. I wish I had the motivation to do it properly, but it's one of these situations where I have to accept that it's a choice between doing an OK but not great job of painting it, or just not painting it at all. It's a year and a half that this model has been nagging at me, and I just know that it'll never get done otherwise. *sigh*

I finished highlighting the red last night and rebased all the details in black, so I should finally get this model done over the weekend. Maybe I might even get motivated and go back to the red... ;)

McMullet
02-04-2007, 11:11
Well, the Techmarine is doing my head in. It's a beautiful sculpt, but it's very fiddly and rather miscast. Still, I made a fair bit of progress, I've now finished 2 of the 4 arms on the harness and started the 3rd. Also, I've done a fair bit of work retouching the predator to avoid the tedium.

I have neatened up the blue and re-highlighted it, and redone the red bits. I think the thing looks a lot cleaner now.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymqu24.jpg


http://images.fotopic.net/ymqu2g.jpg

Sadly, while painting I had a little incident... job for the Techmarine I think.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymqu2h.jpg

It was bound to happen to be honest - at least this way I'll have to pin this before the tournament. The other one has already broken and been pinned, so now they should both be tough enough to survive life in my carry case. ;)

C&C welcome as ever, thanks for looking!

Badgobbla
02-04-2007, 12:15
The blue looks a lot better now and although I'm not a fan of bright red, it looks good too.

Will you be doing more work on the predator? Because I would do some final (very stark) highlights: I feel this works well on big pieces (like tanks).

BTW I don't envy the work you'll have to do on the techmarine to make him look nice and finished.

The boyz
02-04-2007, 12:18
Good job on touching up the Predator McMullet. The red areas look a lot better and the highlighting on the edges of the blue armour, looks spot on.

Reflex
02-04-2007, 12:27
predator sponsoons are the worst.. mine broke too... how you ask... i was tweaking the lascannon before i was going to glue it into position... i was twisting it, as it was ungled, and it broke clean... disapointed...

looks good though mullet...

McMullet
02-04-2007, 14:34
Thanks guys :)

Badgobbla: I would like to do more work on the pred, but really the Crimson Fists were meant to be a side-project and an exercise in speed-painting for me. A single layer of highlights will have to do for this model.

Also, for some reason my camera goes crazy for GW blood red. It's not quite so radiant in real life.

Here are a couple more pics of the Techmarine I forgot to bring with me:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymrymm.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymryml.jpg

Finally... a taster of my next project for the Lizards. One of the reasons I love the army is the Dinosaur theme. So, I thought... why not make a 2000 point Dinosaur army? This will look something like this:

Oldblood on Carnosaur
Scar Veteran BSB on Cold One
Skink Chief on Stegadon

2x10 Skinks and a 2 base Jungle Swarm to make up the core units

6 Cold One Riders
9 Cold One Riders
3 Terradons (if I can fit them, points-wise)

2 old-style Salamanders (the ones that look like Dimetrodons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimetrodon))

I want to do some conversions for these guys (which should be doable, given the small number of models). First on the list is reposing the Cold Ones. I don;t like the newest plastic ones, and I already have 15 of the 6th ed riders. So, I've had a try at making them look a bit more dynamic, by cutting the legs and neck to make them a bit more upright:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymrymk.jpg

Comments welcome, as ever.

Majin
02-04-2007, 15:19
Loving the Red on the Fists, even though I find I like my Crimson fists a bit of a darker red.

Is that Lizard man cold one rider mounted properly? Looks like his about to slide off >_<

RizzenBlade
03-04-2007, 04:57
kudos on one of the best armies at carnage

Badgobbla
03-04-2007, 10:44
I think Majin has a point there: the saurus should be more higher up, but as its still WIP, it's probably just a quick pic you took to show the conversions on the cold one.

And you're right McM: the old style salamanders look much better than the newer ones.

I'm looking forward to seeing that new army progress.

Hideous Loon
03-04-2007, 11:05
Lovely red Techmarine, Mullet! Kudos.

Yes, this is a sympathy post.

McMullet
03-04-2007, 11:23
Well shucks, a post is a post, sympathy or otherwise. :D

You guys are right about the rider, he is mounted too far back. The riders look OK like that when the Cold One is in its normal pose, but when the mount leans back, it looks like the whole thing will fall over. :p Sadly, the eBay seller I bought 5 of my Cold One Riders from liked to assemble them with lots (and lots) of superglue.

I am looking forward to the Dinosaur army (perhaps too much), but I should really be disciplined about it. I have to sort out the extra Marines I need for the X-Legion tournament; next, I want to paint 1000 points of Tyranids for Carnage Poole 04 which is going to be in November, I think. I'd also like to do a Necromunda gang for the Carnage Social, which would either be Cawdor (as I already have the models), a Genestealer cult (using Scavvie rules) or maybe a wild west themed gang... decisions decisions. :p

McMullet
04-04-2007, 11:07
Not a big update, but a bit of progress. The Techmarine is languishing at the back of my desk, but the Predator continues apace. There are a few details left to paint (headlights and some bits of the lascannon) but all of the main red and blue bits are painted and highlighted. I also started to enhance it with a spot of freehand, which I find is an easy way to make vehicles look more ornate.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtc0m.jpg

cookiescrumble
04-04-2007, 11:11
Nice Predator Sam, that freehand really does wonders.

Any idea on a list for your fists yet?

Roel?
04-04-2007, 11:20
Wow, that bit of freehanding really does the job well. Wish I was able to do that.

Your Predator looks very good now, though I must say the bright colors make it look like a.. toy, eh? Ah well, in the end miniatures are toy soldiers.. :>

Nice work.

McMullet
04-04-2007, 12:38
Haha! Well, it's true enough. I do like my Crimson Fists to look bright and colourful, I think that their colour scheme just has to be gaudy and showy. Though, as I've mentioned, the red is not quite so crazily bright as that, for some reason the CCD in my camera just loves GW blood red. :p

Paul- Here's a rough list of what I'm taking to the Landford event:

HQ
Commander (a cheap one, not a 200 point space marine who just gets his face squished every game! :p)

Elites
My trusty old Shooty Dreadnought
Techmarine in full harness, with 2 tech and 2 heavy bolter Servitors, in a Lascannon Razorback

Troops
10 shooty Scouts
10 combat Scouts (yes, I love dem Scouts)
9-man Tactical Squad in a Rhino (acting as a command squad for the commander)

Heavy Support
Predator as above
5 Devastators, 2 heavy bolters
5 Devastators, 2 plasma cannon - they were going to be lascannon but the plasmas are too pretty not to use.

The boyz
04-04-2007, 12:51
Great work on the freehand on the Predator Mcmullet, it looks very nice indeed.

LemonPotato
04-04-2007, 21:08
I am really loving that predator McMullet, that freehand is sweet. Looking good as always, can't wait for the next update.

LemonPotato

McMullet
05-04-2007, 10:51
Thanks guys. :) The freehand is actually very easy to do, all you need is a very fine short brush. I use a W&N 0000 Sceptre Gold. Then you just paint vaguely straight lines of watered white paint whilst letting your hand jiggle a bit.

Well, the predator is nearly finished now, and for some reason I got the bug and started painting the Techmarine again, so he's nearly done too. Both are lacking the odd detail here and there, but are generally fieldable. I'm not ecstatic about how the Techmarine came out, but he'll do.

Techmarine:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrd6.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrdt.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrdr.jpg

[continued]

McMullet
05-04-2007, 10:53
[...continued]

Some shots of the Predator:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrdn.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrdp.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrdq.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymtrdo.jpg

I'm thinking of writing "Imperator Dei" or somesuch on the dozer blade... thoughts?

Thanks for looking, comments welcome!

LemonPotato
05-04-2007, 11:24
That techmarine is awesome Sam, I mean that is really something. Then again so is the predator. I really look forward to seeing these models in person some time in the future.

Sorry that I cannot be more constructive but I really cannot think of any way of improving these models.

Keep up this good work, and the speed. Keep going, go on lad paint!

LemonPotato

Badgobbla
05-04-2007, 13:12
Looks all very nice. Just those last pics aren't showing.

Where would you want to paint 'Imperator Dei' and how would you want to do it?

Jedi152
05-04-2007, 13:53
Superb!

I'm looking to start 40k soon, so i hope to play against these fella's one day.

And don't worry, i'll at least try to learn the rules this time ... :D

McMullet
05-04-2007, 14:18
Well, if I'm in Nottingham I'll be wanting to play Fantasy... I'm sorry to say, however, that the close combat "to hit" table is much the same for 40K as it is for Fantasy. No, Andy, you hit me on 4s. Not 5s. :p


Looks all very nice. Just those last pics aren't showing.

Where would you want to paint 'Imperator Dei' and how would you want to do it?

I was thinking of a fairly ornate, black letter-type script, across the top of the Dozer blade. Not huge letters, fairly spaced out. I'll try and do a sketch of it if I have time.

Not sure what's up with the pics, they're working for me.

nkicik
05-04-2007, 14:42
Yeah the pics are fine for me too, some decoration on the dozer blade is a plan as it's a bit of a large block of blue atm.

Badgobbla
06-04-2007, 07:22
Hmm, I can see them now, maybe some fluke DL'ing?

I'd paint the text here:

McMullet
12-04-2007, 11:33
Thanks BG, that looks good. I'll get around to that at some point.

For the last couple of days I've been working on the Techmarine's retinue of servitors, as well as adding the finishing touches to his flamer. I have finished one of them and basecoated all 4.

http://images.fotopic.net/ymzf3w.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/ymzf30.jpg

With the boss:

http://images.fotopic.net/ymzf3z.jpg

In full size: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p40269455.html

C&C welcome. :)

Asuril
13-04-2007, 05:46
Hey Mc,

I havent had access to a computer in about a month, so I missed the conclusion to your awesome Lizardmen force! Let this be a late congrats to you, then. I was impressed to the end. ;)

Love the freehand on your Predator. Red isn't very crimson, though. They'll just be the Crimson Fists' successor chapter, "Bright Red Fists" instead, right?

Keep up the good work. :)

Also, I'd move the position of the broken Lascannon on your predator, like so:

Now:


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After:


||
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See what I mean? It should be attached to the rest of the tank.

:]

-Asuril

McMullet
13-04-2007, 10:57
Also, I'd move the position of the broken Lascannon on your predator, like so:

Now:


||
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||} .. |
||] .. []}
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After:


||
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See what I mean? It should be attached to the rest of the tank.

:D Genius!

The red I end up with is rather REEEEED, but I find a true crimson comes out rather pinkish when I paint it.

Thanks for the comment! :)

Badgobbla
13-04-2007, 12:48
The red I end up with is rather REEEEED, but I find a true crimson comes out rather pinkish when I paint it.


Of course:
- blood red -> orange
- crimson red -> pink

If you want a good base for blood red I suggest dark flesh or scorched brown.

BTW the servors look great, I really like the skin.

McMullet
16-04-2007, 11:13
Thanks BG. :)

Not much progress over the weekend, as it was far too warm and sunny to sit inside painting toy soldiers. However, I did finish a couple of servitors last night, having started the other three on Friday.

Their current state:

http://images.fotopic.net/yn1pif.jpg

I should be able to finish that last guy soon enough. Then it's time for some Devastators I reckon.

lee
16-04-2007, 12:06
:eek: the techmarine and pred look amazing sam

McMullet
19-04-2007, 11:39
Hi Lee, thanks! Will we be seeing you at the X Legion tourney by the way?

A little progress, though not much. The servitors are done, and I have started assembling the 10 Devastators. It's several months since I did anything with any bog-standard power armour, and it's nice to get back into it. These new devastators are rather funky models, I have to say.

Finished servitors (I know, the bases need doing... grumble grumble)

http://images.fotopic.net/yn3orb.jpg

Tech servitors to the fore:

http://images.fotopic.net/yn3ora.jpg

And the devastators (there will be 2 units of 5, one with 2 heavy bolters and one with 2 plasma cannon):

http://images.fotopic.net/yn3or9.jpg

Cheers for looking!

cookiescrumble
19-04-2007, 11:40
Nice to see some good progress Sam. Nice work on the Servitors and Techmarine.

lee
19-04-2007, 18:53
the servitors look nice sam

:( no i wont be at the x legion torney have to work

McMullet
18-05-2007, 15:45
Wake up thread, pics for you.

I've not done a lot in the last month; a combination of trying to get some work done on my PhD and the fact that I don't really have much to do for the X Legion tournament in June means that I've been neglecting the old toy soldiers a bit. Plus cleaning up plastic models is probably the most tedious and unrewarding part of this hobby. :p

Still, the devastators are undercoated and ready for painting (bar the obligatory spots the spray missed).

Heavy Bolters:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynm4hs.jpg
Full size: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p41403930.html

Plasma Cannon:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynm4h7.jpg
Full size: http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p41403931.html

[continued...]

McMullet
18-05-2007, 15:46
[...continued]

I've also got another little job to do, and one that's more worthy of your attention, I hope; I'm sick of my Scout Sergeant not having a power fist. He's a Crimson Fists veteran sergeant, so a power fist is just proper. Hence, I'm trying my hand at sculpting one. I've not done a lot with greenstuff before, so I'm not sure how this is turning out. Getting the greenstuff smooth is time-consuming, but I can do it; on the other hand, I'm not to sure that the size and proportions of the fist are correct.

If anyone has any opinions on if/how this needs to change, I'll be most delighted to hear from you. I know some of it is rather messy at the moment - I'll be tidying up the finish. Oh, and I'll add a guitar string power cable at some point.

http://images.fotopic.net/ynm4h8.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ynm4ha.jpg
http://images.fotopic.net/ynm4hc.jpg

Any comments/criticisms are welcome as always. :)

Arhalien
18-05-2007, 15:53
Did it have to be Marines? :p

The Techmarine is looking very nice, as are the servitors. Are the combat servitors the GW models?

Nice work :)

McMullet
22-05-2007, 11:22
Haha. Yes, I'm sorrry. No project log is safe from the scourge of OMG MARINZLOL. Cheers for the reply anyway. ;)

All the Servitors are the ones from the Techmarine boxset, by the way.

Progress! The Devastators are about halfway done now, though they're looking very WIP.

http://images.fotopic.net/ynocgk.jpg

Also, I've finished sculpting the powerfist, here it is for your delectation (though it's hard to make it out unpainted):

http://images.fotopic.net/ynocgm.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ynocgl.jpg

C&C welcome!

spikedog
22-05-2007, 12:22
Woo more MC updates, even if it is still MARINZLOL!

The powerfist looks good. If I had seen it earlier I would have said square it off a little more but I think it still looks good.

Also the Devs are looking ace, are the arms removed for painting or are they magnetized or something?

Jedi152
22-05-2007, 12:32
I like the fist - very well sculpted! My immediate impression was that it was the Cadian officer fist. Kudos!

McMullet
23-05-2007, 11:15
Dawg: I know what you mean about the fist being a bit rounded. As it is, it looks more like the blobby Terminator ones that the nicer ones from the Assault Squad/Commander/Command Squad etc. But I'm on a bit of a tight deadline so it'll have to do! The dev arms are just off for painting, it makes getting to the fiddly bits easier.

Jedi: Thanks! I would've liked to use the Canadian powerfists, but unfortunately they are all right-handed. Buying a whole metal model just to cut off the hand, then spend a good while chopping off the thumb and making a new one seems like a bit too much trouble, so I thought I'd try my hand at sculpting first. Glad you like it!

Anyway, I didn't get much done last night, as my housemates and I decided to do some gardening (read: attacked the triffid-like shrubs that are overhanging our lawn with saws/axes/etc.). All I managed to do was finish the Scout Sergeant:

http://images.fotopic.net/yno0hl.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/yno0hm.jpg

http://images.fotopic.net/yno0hn.jpg

All in all, I'm pretty happy with how this came out, since it was a pretty quick job and my first real go at sculpting. Devastator pics to follow tomorrow with utmost haste!

Opinions on the fist are welcome, as usual. :)

Hideous Loon
23-05-2007, 11:21
Lovely powerfist, and disregard Spike's comment about MARINZLOL, we know they prod buttock, right?

You've got a nice, smooth red going on with it, too.

spikedog
23-05-2007, 17:13
Disregard what I said about the powerfist as it looks really great now and fits in well with the model.

Although still take heed about the MARINZLOL comment. *Grumble*Silly Loon*Grumble*

mrtn
23-05-2007, 18:20
... I would've liked to use the Canadian powerfists, but unfortunately they are all right-handed. ...
I'm not up on the 40K fluff, I had no idea there was Canuck powerfists. :p :D

Badgobbla
25-05-2007, 10:24
Nice Powerfist there McM, really nice indeed for a first attempt at GS.

You mentioned you were on a deadline with the painting, are you attending a tourney?

BTW It'd be ace if you could attend DSK II in Bergen in november. At first I wasn't really planning on attending, but if more Wastoids show up I might be inclined to fly up there again.

Rich 123
25-05-2007, 12:27
Excellent looking sergeant there McMullet.

I thought it would be black, I just didn't plug my brain in and think Crimson Fists!

Looks great now its got some red on it and of course some subtle McMullet Freehand™.

McMullet is off to the X Legion tournie soon BadGobla. I was planning on going to it as well, but it is right in the middle of my degree show, so that isn't happening! I was designing some posters for Pertinax's DSK last time and probably this time as well and he offered if I wanted to come. Seemed liek an awfully long way, how much does it cost to get there (presuming you are based in England!).

Are the devastators coming with you to the X Legion tournie McMullet or are you saving points up for the mega command squad of doom and their pimp-mobile? ;)

Good luck getting what you want done in time!
Dicky

McMullet
26-05-2007, 11:53
Loon, dawg: Thanks guys!

mrtn: I refer you to this: http://www.dakkadakka.com/Forums/tabid/56/forumid/9/postid/52287/view/topic/Default.aspx


Nice Powerfist there McM, really nice indeed for a first attempt at GS.

You mentioned you were on a deadline with the painting, are you attending a tourney?

BTW It'd be ace if you could attend DSK II in Bergen in november. At first I wasn't really planning on attending, but if more Wastoids show up I might be inclined to fly up there again.

Thanks, I was pleased at how it came out. I probably spent as long on one fist as some of the local experts would on a whole model, but it's all a learning process I guess.

As Dicky says, I'm going to a local tourney next weekend, which is quite scary as I still have a bit of work to do. For Carnage North I had a whole army to paint, but there was hardly anything left when I only had a week to go. Plus I have real life work I need to get done. So the last 5 models are going to be rushed a bit I think...

I am seriously tempted by DSK now it looks like a few people will be going. It would indeed be cool.


Excellent looking sergeant there McMullet.

I thought it would be black, I just didn't plug my brain in and think Crimson Fists!

Looks great now its got some red on it and of course some subtle McMullet Freehand™.

McMullet is off to the X Legion tournie soon BadGobla. I was planning on going to it as well, but it is right in the middle of my degree show, so that isn't happening! I was designing some posters for Pertinax's DSK last time and probably this time as well and he offered if I wanted to come. Seemed liek an awfully long way, how much does it cost to get there (presuming you are based in England!).

Are the devastators coming with you to the X Legion tournie McMullet or are you saving points up for the mega command squad of doom and their pimp-mobile?

Good luck getting what you want done in time!
Dicky

Thanks Dicky! I spent a good while staring at the back of that powerfist before I decided what to paint on it. I was worried a Maltese cross might look too Black Templary, but I think it looks white on red. Only took a minute or two to do and I think it adds a lot to the fist.

You probably found the thread by now, but I was looking at flights to Bergen for £111 all in. Not too bad really. Telll you what, if you can finish your night gobbos by then I'll come and keep you company. ;)

And yeah, the Devastators are definitely coming to the tournament. I think I'm going to miss having half my army in one model though....

Anyway, onto the real stuff: Updates. The first 5 Devastators are "finished". They are not, in fact, finished, but all they lack is chapter icons (sorry, but painting tiny fists is very boring and I couldn't be arsed to do it last night) and bases (I'm going to to bases for all 10 Devastators and the 4 Servitors in one go). They aren't done to a terribly goods standard but I don't have time to do them better, as I really don't want to rush the Plasma Cannon squad.

Here they are:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynrgx8.jpg
Full size. (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p41638580.html)

My first attempt at Devastator squad markings:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynrgxc.jpg
Full size. (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p41638581.html)

Hope you like them! :)

Rich 123
26-05-2007, 13:42
Well, thinking about it McMullet, a Maltese cross isn't really inappropriate. It is the iconography of the Templars, a successor of the Imperial Fists like the Crimson Fists, so the cross must have had some sort of significance in the parent chapter for it to become a successor iconography. So it stands to reason that the Crimson Fists hold some sort of significance to it or use.


Plus I have real life work I need to get done. So the last 5 models are going to be rushed a bit I think...

Haha, I feel your pain there mate! Trouble with a campsite... is it's less suitable for last minute painting! Unlike my ideal en suite workshop at the Gresham ;) But the Devastators look good seeing as they have been painted quickly as well as basing normally seems more painless if you are doing it in bulk. Sand bases are nice and easy!

Yeah, DSK could be alot of fun. It will make a good target to get Night Goblins converted and painted for, and you know how good I am at meeting deadlines! Plenty of time, so I don't see why not. Road trip! :)

It should be good for the X Legion tournie to not have so much of your points tied up in just one unit. One lascannon shot and Lord High Pimp Mac-Daddy of the Crimson Fists ends up having to walk all the way!

Good luck getting everything finished in time mate!
Dicky

schoolcormorant
26-05-2007, 14:05
love the scheme red, white and blue, very nice ;)

SC

spikedog
27-05-2007, 03:15
Looking good MC, however although you may not wnt to hear this the Dev squad marking don't seem to be uniform to me. It may be just due to the picture angle or something but it does seems that the second from the right and the first from the left MARINZLOL triangle marking is smaller than the others. The numbers on all however seem to be well painted, especially the one in the middle.

I thought I may as well ask although I fear the answer but will we be seeing any more fantasy in this log anytime soon? Or how about 'nids?

McMullet
27-05-2007, 12:56
Dicky: Yeah, the Maltese cross does crop up here and there in the CF iconography, like on the Land Raider front hatch (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p31073252.html). Plus, it's associated with crusading, and the Crimson Fiosts spent much of their history as a crusading chapter. Regarding the campsite, very true! However, I'm not heading over to Landford until Saturday morning, so I'll be at home (with all my paints) on Friday night. On the other hand, we're having a barbecue/house party on said Friday night so I'll be too busy and probably too drunk to do any painting. :p

SC: Thanks, glad you like it!

Spike: Shush you. :p Yes, they are indeed a bit wonky. Sadly I was in too much of a rush to get all the markings perfect. I'll try harder on the next 5. I'm sorry. :cries: Anyway, they're only MARINZLOL, it doesn't matter!

Anyway, you'll doubtless be pleased to hear that after next weekend, the focus on MARINZLOL will be indefinitely ended. I want to get these few models done for the tourney, but after that I'll probably make a start on some Tyranids. There're still a few Marine models that need to be done (1 Rhino, 5-10 Assault Marines, Terminator Chaplain, plus a few other things I'd like to go back and redo), but I'll use them to break up the 3000 point Nid army and the remaining 4000 points of Lizardmen I have to do...

Right then, onto the update: Decided to be a boring b*****d last night and stay in and paint, since I'm playing Warhammer this afternoon and spending all day tomorrow in the pub (where I'm going to see - get this - THE WURZELS (http://www.myspace.com/thewurzels)!), and after that I only have 3 evenings to finish everything. I managed to get a fair bit done in fact, so I should just about finish everything in time.

Devastator demi-squad 2:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynt1ji.jpg
Full Size (http://mcmulletsminis.fotopic.net/p41665842.html)

Looking very WIP there, but they're nearly ready for all the details to be washed (and re-highlighted if appropriate) which makes them look much better. Not bad for an evening's work, if I say so myself...

C&C Welcome, as ever.

Hideous Loon
28-05-2007, 17:11
Hey! You've got the same colour for ribbing as me. I also used a middle grey for my 'Fists. Good one, isn't it?

McMullet
30-05-2007, 10:58
Indeed so Mr Loon, it seems to work nicely with the red and blue.

Well, to start off, here's the photo I forgot yesterday, taken of my progress up to Monday night:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynup55.jpg

Everything looking all manky and washed there.

Here's last night's progress...

Plasma Cannoners:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynup5s.jpg

Sergeant:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynup57.jpg

Couple of guys with bolters:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynup58.jpg

[cont...]

McMullet
30-05-2007, 11:03
[cont...]

The complete Plasma Cannon demi-squad:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynup5c.jpg

And the whole squad:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynup5a.jpg

So, these guys are almost completely done, and, hence, so is my army for the X Legion tourney.

Al that remains is:

Freehand Devastator markings for the Plasma demi-squad
Freehand Fist Chapter icons for all 10 Devs
Bases for these and the 4 servitors

And then I'm done!

C&C welcome. :)

McMullet
01-06-2007, 10:55
Whoa-hoh, triple post!

My army is once again finished with a day to spare. :)

Heavy bolter squad:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynv6u3.jpg

Plasma Cannon Squad:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynv6u5.jpg

And a pretty shoddy picture of the whole army:

http://images.fotopic.net/ynv6u7.jpg

But you get the idea...

Cheers for looking!

spikedog
01-06-2007, 12:29
Looking good Mc.

Did you forget the static grass on the Heavy Plasma squad?

Either way the army looks good (for MARINZLOL) I'm looking forward to seeing what you end up doing next.

McMullet
11-06-2007, 11:34
Thanks spike. :) The Plasma guys have no grass on their bases to tell the two combat squads apart. They are from the same squad but standing in different places.

Not sure what I'll do next, I should really get off my lazy **** and do some uni work...

EDIT

The next job on my list is my Tyranid army. I have recently had a sort out and I discovered I have virtually everything I need for the 2500+ point army I have planned, which was a pleasant surprise.

First up, my desk needed tidying up:

http://images.fotopic.net/yp3tvt.jpg

Several hours of prevarication later:

http://images.fotopic.net/yp3tvv.jpg

So, back to the real stuff: Nids. I posted a yellow/green colour scheme earlier in the thread, which I'd decided on in preference to my earlier attempts at a red/bone scheme. I'm undecided on which I prefer, so I ask for your opinions:

http://images.fotopic.net/yp3tvu.jpg

These models will have Cities of Death-based urban bases, if that affects your decision. Opinions and suggestions are most welcome!

Arhalien
11-06-2007, 12:37
Hmm, I'd say go for the red scheme; I'm not too keen on that yellow/orange and green.

spikedog
11-06-2007, 14:51
Wicked, 'NIDS!!

I have to be a pain and vote for the oposite scheme to Arhalien. I like the yellow one, mainly because I have never seen an army like it before. The red one, although very well painted and looking good, is quite similar to the old codex scheme.

Also glad to see another person still with the old, old style pint pots, the round ones. ;)

Jedi152
11-06-2007, 15:49
I have to say i prefer the yellow one. It looks more natural and, as SD said, red 'nids has been an official scheme.

Nice desk, but your plants look like they need some water... :p

McMullet
12-06-2007, 11:10
Thanks for your input, guys! I have 2 more votes for the red/bone scheme over MSN so that's in the lead so far. If it's very close I might combine some elements of the two - perhaps keeping the yellow/brown exoskeleton and using the bone carapace.

I was planning to assemble some models last night but my glue has gone walkabout. Instead I sorted out a list for a 400 point combat patrol as an initial target to aim for (once I find the glue and choose a colour scheme).

3 Leaping, Rending, Scything Warriors
14 Hormagaunts
8 Hormagaunts with Toxin Sacs
3 Ripper Bases

And here they are...

Warriors:

http://images.fotopic.net/ypfq5l.jpg

The lower arms will be converted to be rending claws (basically using a Genestealer Scything Talon for each of the 3 fingers). The nearest Warrior needs reposing some more to look more leapy.

Hormagaunts:

http://images.fotopic.net/ypfq5n.jpg

Poor, misused test models.

More Hormies:

http://images.fotopic.net/ypfq5p.jpg

Blurry and unassembled.

3 Rippers:

http://images.fotopic.net/ypfq5m.jpg

Question for the world at large: What, if anything do you feel the standard Ripper models require to look like they have the "leaping" upgrade?

A little work and that'll be 400 points ready for assembly.

Any more comments on the colourscheme or the above question are most welcome.

Cheers for looking!

mrtn
12-06-2007, 16:34
I vote yellow nids. Reminds of my own beastmen. :)

LemonPotato
13-06-2007, 12:35
I am personally a big fan of that yellow colour scheme, an entire army painted like that would certainly draw the eye.

LemonPotato

spikedog
13-06-2007, 14:24
HAhahaha my plan to get everyone voting yellow is working! Come my minions, spam McMullets thread with yellow votes!

*ahem* anyway good luck with the assembly, everyone knows that is the best part of the hobby. ;)

Alex Under
14-06-2007, 16:42
Yellow! A whole army in that colour will look really different and much more organic than red IMO.

McMullet
16-06-2007, 18:11
Well, that's 5 votes for yellow in this thread, and one for red. I've had a few other people going for red but I think yellow wins overall. Yellow and green it shall be!

As some of you may have noticed, Harry has started a project based around painting a 2000 point army in 12 months - sign up thread here (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88914). this appears to be an excellent way to paint these Tyranids, so I shall be starting work on painting them from July.

Because I like that sort of thing, I have already planned out my entire army:

1 Hive Tyrant

5 Leaping Warriors
1 Lictor

24 Hormagaunts
24 Hormagaunts
16 Toxin Sac Hormagaunts
6 Ripper bases
12 Genestealers
12 Genestealers

3 Raveners
4 Flying Warriors

2 Zoanthropes
Carnifex
Carnifex

That weighs in at 2400 points - based on the assumption that I manage to paint 200 points a month for the next year. I'll be happy to get to 2000 though, which would mean one Carnifex and one unit of Stealers get left until later.

The first job is to assemble the combat patrol pictured above; the first month will be spent painting 14 Hormagaunts and 3 Ripper bases. The assembly will probably run into July a little as I'm waiting for a Cities of Death building box that I'll chop up and use for bases.

Additional:

I have been playing around with methods to make Rending Claws for my Warriors. I dislike the rending claws that are currently available, since they just look like silly big hands. This is fine for Genestealers, which have 2 pairs of arms with hands on the end, but normal hands with the Scything Talons on Warriors (and Raveners) just clash to my mind.

I prefer the style of Rending Claws that are found on the Death Leaper (http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110106056&orignav=10) model, which look like shorter Scything Talons with a few extra claws. They are obviously Rending Claws, but still fit the "look" of the model in my opinion. So I am trying to make my Rending Claws from Genestealer Scything Talons as described above.

Here are a couple of tryouts...

1. 3 claws, almost full length:

http://images.fotopic.net/yp71hd.jpg

I think maybe these look a bit too big, especially on the Genestealer arms, which are a bit skinny.

2. 2 Claws, similar length (image was modified, it's the same model as above):

http://images.fotopic.net/yp71h9.jpg


I think this looks more balanced, but possibly looks a bit too much like Scything Talons.

3. 3 claws, outer 2 being shorter (that's the nearest arm only):

http://images.fotopic.net/yp71he.jpg

I think this is my favourite so far. It is small enough (and could be made smaller with a bit of trimming) whilst keeping the Rending Claw look. It does, however, require rather more work than the other options.

Note that these are just mock-ups - the real models will have greenstuffing to make up the hands around the claws.

Your opinions are most welcome. :)

Captain_Wolverine
16-06-2007, 18:25
We have the same pc speaker system

Mikari
16-06-2007, 18:53
The claws look too legoish. You would be better off with a just a single claw instead of 3, they would look like smaller claws they used to hook people before ripping them apart with their larger claws.

Alternatively you could go with 2 claws but like a dog's paw. Where one is set back a little from the other.

McMullet
16-06-2007, 19:03
We have the same pc speaker system

Er... glad to hear it. It is a nice speaker system (for the price).


The claws look too legoish. You would be better off with a just a single claw instead of 3, they would look like smaller claws they used to hook people before ripping them apart with their larger claws.

The problem there is that it would just look like another pair of Scything Talons - I want the rending claws to have a similar style to the Talons but they have to be noticeably different for WYSIWYG purposes.


Alternatively you could go with 2 claws but like a dog's paw. Where one is set back a little from the other.

I may try mocking that up with blutac to see what it looks like. Thanks. :)

Mikari
16-06-2007, 20:08
rending is critical hits no? If you can hold a guy in place you can take his face off in 1 slash. Works for me if you can make them look like T-rex grabby arms.

Pekel
16-06-2007, 20:23
Definitely the last claw option. I'm a big fan of it - it's the first "scything claw" that I've felt really works. And I look forward to seeing that color scheme on more models!

McMullet
19-06-2007, 11:24
Thanks Pekel! :)

I'm fiddling around with ways to use green stuff to combine the talons into a single "hand". Not really made much progress with that so far, but I have been working on an idea to give these Warriors the Extended Carapace biomorph. I swapped most of the Extended Carapace bits I had (well, all the ones I had at the time...) with Spikedog for a pair of Forgeworld Warrior Wings, because I never really liked the look of those bits when used as intended - stuck on the shoulder they look like a bit of an afterthought to me.

However, I started playing around with the few I have left last night (after getting home from the office at 11 pm) and came up with something rather better looking, in my opinion: Using them to up-armour the Warrior's torso. In fact, I reckon it makes more sense to protect these vital areas rather than the shoulder...

So, I blu-tacked some plates on, then noticed I had some leftover greenstuff (as always seems to happen...), and thought, what the hell, lets give try a biot of extra plating on the sides too.

The result:

http://images.fotopic.net/ypc8p3.jpghttp://images.fotopic.net/ypc8pf.jpg

The plastic plates will need to be trimmed to fit flush with each other, and the greenstuff needs to be sanded smoother. However, what are your thoughts in general? Does this look (conceptually) OK?

Cheers for looking. :)

Arhalien
19-06-2007, 11:32
That's looking good; the extra plating is very neat and sharp :)

Mikari
19-06-2007, 11:43
Looks great to me, should work really well :)

McMullet
09-07-2007, 10:22
Thank you Gentlemen. :)

A brief and comparatively poor quality update for you today, I'm afraid. Work continues with the Tyranids, though I am still undecided on precisely how I'll be painting them. I'm set on the yellow-brown/green scheme, but I'm working on finding a quick and effective way of painting it. So, expect this month's work to be somewhat inconsistent. It's not a bit deal in the long run, since a bit of variation doesn't look too bad in a Nid army, and it makes the decision about which models to remove as casualties first a lot easier...

So, here we go. This month's target for the TOP is 14 Hormagaunts...

http://images.fotopic.net/ypkwlf.jpg

... and 3 Ripper bases.

http://images.fotopic.net/ypkwl5.jpg

Half of the Hormies and two of the the Rippers are undercoated with the Nato Brown spray and then basecoated with Scorched Brown. For the rest, I have (with some advice from Spikedog) experimented with white undercoating, something I haven't done for about 5 years, and various washes (Vallejo Smoky Ink with various amounts of water, Scorched Brown, black) before starting with the paint. Hopefully one of these will be satisfactory and I can stick with it for the rest of the army.

Comments, criticism and advice welcome as ever. :)

spikedog
09-07-2007, 11:03
Oh MC I missed your GS Warrior update so let me start with that, I think it looks great! As you said the GS needs a bit of smoothing but I think it will look great when painted up. The idea is a good'un and surprisingly not one I have seen before.

Glad to see you trying out the white undercoat. It takes some getting used to and I found that my first few models with it came out worse than with the black as it is very unforgiving of mistakes however when you get the hang of it I find it makes the final outcome of most models much smoother.