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10-10-2006, 20:13
If any of you are familiar with Lego's Bionicle line, I'm making an Eldar army based on it. First up is Farseer Vakama:


Based on this (http://cache.lego.com/images/shop/prod/8540-0000-XX-12-1.jpg) character.

Here's three models, including Warlock Nuju (http://www.sitebm.com/bionicle/images0/nuju.jpg):


As a simple explanation, Bionicle villagers are called Matoran and come in six elemental variants. Fire (represented by Fire Dragons), Earth (Warp Spiders), Stone (Dire Avengers), Water (Howling Banshees), Air (Swooping Hawks), and Ice (Rangers). Each Eldar model conveys a certain trait of the Matoran they represent, from the hunchbacked Warp Spiders to the cloaked Rangers and female Howling Banshees (all water Matoran are female). Matoran are all identified by their colors and the masks they wear. Though the masks will be sculpted onto the Farseer and Warlocks, every other troop will wear a loincloth with their mask painted on it (as shown in the last picture).

Now, what I need help with: I'm going to make an Exo-Toa (http://www.bzcommunity.com/ref/img/exotoa.jpg) from a Wraithlord. Should I use the new or old Eldar Wraithlord for this? I drew this (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/exotoa.jpg) quick picture on Photoshop to show how I'd modify a standard old Wraithlord to become an Exo-Toa (the big head is flipped and becomes the torso).

Sorry about the lack of pictures at the moment - this weekend I'll get home and give you some actual painting to criticize. :)

10-10-2006, 23:31
Can you include the pics in the posts rather than a link, it gets anoying to keep clicking after a while. I gotta say though that you sculpt well.

18-10-2006, 00:42
I added the pictures. And thanks for the compliment. Here's some more models:

And a second Swooping Hawk (but blurry picture, my camera was dying.)

And the base for the Vyper. The brightly-colored thing is a kraata (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/rogerc-t/Bionicles/Masks/Kraata/dscf0059.jpg).

The paint scheme is supposed to be bright and almost cartoony - they're based off Lego sets, after all.

18-10-2006, 01:29
wow this is awesome

18-10-2006, 09:25
Can't say I care much for the theme, but I really like your painting style!



18-10-2006, 22:50
Agree, the green on the hawks is amazing!

27-10-2006, 03:40
Thanks for the positive feedback. :D

The bases are a real pain in the posterior to make, but they're easy to paint and they look nice. Shame they take away valuable time during which I could be painting...

I'm not going to have any new models up for a while, since I've been back at college and working only on commissions (SoB and Beastmen). I'll try to finish 2-3 more Eldar models over Thanksgiving break. Probably another Dire Avenger, a Warlock, and hopefully the Vyper.

Right now what I really need for this army is composition advice. After realizing that I really didn't want Guardians in my army now that Dire Avengers are much better (even though a weapon platform (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/Concepts/ussalgun.jpg) based off Pewku the Ussal crab (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/TakutanuvaRebirth/Bionicle-Movie-pics/MoL/pewku.jpg) would have been fun to make) I figured I'd write up a final army list before buying anything more. Also note that, like any real Bionicle fan, I hate all the movies with a passion.

Anyhow, here's the current army list based on the old Codex (I just moved units to fit properly into the new Codex's FOC slots and switched the Guardians for Dire Avengers):

HQ 1/2
- Farseer: Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol, Guide, Mind War (87)
-- Warlock: Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol, Conceal (33)
-- Warlock: Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol, Embolden (23)
-- Warlock: Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol, Enhance (28)
-- Warlock: Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol, Destructor (28)
-- Warlock: Close Combat Weapon, Shuriken Pistol, Destructor (28)
-- Wave Serpent: (110)

Elites 2/3
- Howling Banshee: x8 (128)
- Fire Dragon: x8 (136)

Troops 3/6
- Ranger: x8 (153)
- Dire Avengers: x12 (144)
- Jetbike: x2 (70)
-- Jetbike: Shuriken Cannon (55)

Fast Attack 3/3
- Swooping Hawk: x8 (168)
- Vyper: Bright Lance (65)
- Warp Spider: x6 (132)

Heavy Support 2/3
- Wraithlord: Flamer, Flamer, Missile Launcher (125)
- War Walker: Shuriken Cannon, Starcannon (85)

= 1547 points
Model Count – 62

This puts me 47 points over my 1500 point limit, and I want to buy Exarchs for the Swooping Hawk and Dire Avenger squads (Skyleap and Bladestorm!). I know some units got cheaper and some got more expensive, but I'll probably wind up dropping the War Walker... shame. It was going to make a nice Boxor (http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/93/de/50037231-resized200.jpg). I'll probably wind up expanding to 2000 points, adding an Avatar, two War Walkers, and filling in extra points with more infantry in the squads.

But yeah... any advice to increase tactical efficiency and/or bring the army more in list with the new Codex? I know it's illegal to give out points costs, so I'll do that myself once I get the Codex. Just general advice.

27-10-2006, 13:11
Thats very cool.

The green on the hawk is very cool, how did you do that?

27-10-2006, 13:57
Cool. Are you going to include Toas too?

27-10-2006, 14:30
Wow, those look great! I've always liked Bionicle, and you look like your pulling the theme along really well.

What colors did you use on the Dire Avenger? Really like that muted brown scheme a lot ...

Luck with school, hope to get some updates when you've got the time ;)

- Salvage

28-10-2006, 09:07
The green's just Scorpion Green base, then a mix of SG and Skull White to highlight. Extreme areas like the gems and wingtips got another go, with a tiny bit more white.

I wanted Toa in this army, but they'd have to be Avatars or Wraithlords. And the FOC limits that. Though I could do two squads of War Walkers... Tahu/Onua/Pohatu and Kopaka/Gali/Lewa. Use the Wraithlord models but tell people they're War Walkers. Hmmm....

The brown on the Dire Avenger is Vermin Brown, highlighted with a mix of VB and Bleached Bone.

Working on these at the moment. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Commissions/SistersofBattle/sistahs.jpg)

02-11-2006, 22:50
Working on the Exo-Toa (http://www.bzcommunity.com/ref/img/exotoa.jpg). I've got more progress on the arms and head (trimmed down, headshield being sculpted) but I need help bulking out the legs without losing the Wraithlord look. Any advice?


02-11-2006, 23:44
If you want to keep the same leg look, your best shot is just to extend the leg armor with greenstuff.

03-11-2006, 15:37
What I have now:


And I think I'm going to use greenstuff and guitar string to run cables down the sides of the legs, blended in at the top and bottom with greenstuff. Here's a quick photoshop to show that and the colors.


03-11-2006, 15:44
I don't really know much about Bionicles, but speaking just from a 40K point of view, I love where this army is going. It's close enough to the style of the Eldar to fit the army/fluff/rules, but it with a unique style of presentation. The design of this army "feels right." Great job so far.

07-11-2006, 06:54
tinfoil, that's exactly what I was aiming for. Eldar beyond any doubt, but enough Bionicle homages for those fans to know exactly what's going on as well.

Question: I made a sunken base and plan to use some sort of water effects in it. Here's a (terrible) picture showing it:


I'll also be adding the cardstock 'stones' to the ground and adding some wire/greenstuff cattails to the shore. But would it be okay to use Elmer's Glue as the water? I think it'd look okay on such a small scale, since it dries clear. Should I mix in a bit of blue paint or ink to tint it or leave it clear?

Also - I'm going to be gluing some large quartz crystals to one base. They're clear/white and I'm going to want them yellow. Should I paint over them or ink them yellow? I want to get as much of a glowing effect as possible, so I can't decide between a painted glow or natural translucence.

Quin 242
07-11-2006, 07:08
Amazing way to carry out a thought out theme.
I've never seen any bionicle shows/movies but this is VERY well done in homage.

I like the tings you've done so far and look forward to more.

09-11-2006, 05:34

Just a little greenstuff smoothing out, then painting. I know I should have waited on the crotch armor, but I want to paint it...


The things he's standing on are going to be cut to look like they're made of stones, and the trench under his feet is going to be filled with lava.

09-11-2006, 15:47
Subscribed - I really want to see how this turns out...

09-11-2006, 20:49
It looks sloppy now, but I got really sick of painting it and rushed it. I'll neaten it up later.


10-11-2006, 00:56
You could have Toa's use the phoenix lord rules, that would be bad ass :)

10-11-2006, 02:22
holy jesus, that thing looks amazing.

11-11-2006, 21:20
I second using Phoenix Lords as Toa - it links with the alignments, too!

11-11-2006, 22:23
I've always liked bionicle models so I'm liking how you've done this so far. Not an eldar fan though, but still cool.

11-11-2006, 22:30
I've no idea what bionicle is but this theme is realy nice and the models are excellent! :)

11-11-2006, 23:21
all you had to do was ask

11-11-2006, 23:35
You could have Toa's use the phoenix lord rules, that would be bad ass :)
Wow... yes! I'll take a look at the rules, but that could DEFINITELY work. Not nearly as big as a Wraithlord, affordable, and appropriate both rules- and theme-wise. Great idea! I'll probably use greenstuff an plasticard to make them taller, put them on scenic bases, and give them Toa weapons and sculpt masks.

The Bionicle site is near-useless, especially since my army's based on the 2001-2003 storyline (chronologically this army would be at 2003, seeing as it has the Exo-Toa). Shame, since I want to make classic Toa instead of Toa Nuva... mabe bend the story a bit? ;) Anyhow, here's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bionicle) the Wikipedia entry.

Glad people are interested even if they have no idea what Bionicle is. Looks like I'm succeeding on every level. :D

27-11-2006, 02:12
Okay, here's the WIP right-hand Matoran (can serve as Exarchs or, more often, just normal guys on special scenic bases). I just got Rangers and one will be mounted on a large base even though they can't have Exarchs. Just for display and storyline reasons. From back-left: Fire, Air, Stone, Earth, Water. Ranger's going to be Ice. The white stuff in the Howling Banshee's base is "ghetto water effects," aka dries-clear white glue. When I last checked it didn't seem it was turning out so well.


Wraithlord, still needs mossy flock on the base. The symbol and little mask-thing will make sense to Bionicle fans.


Vyper. Still needs gun (should have a spare missile launger with my Wave Serpent, I hope) and some paint details.


27-11-2006, 02:13
Sorry about the triple-post, too many images to fit in the last one.

Slapped a bit of paint on the first Warlock (Ice). The staff head is terrible - I'm going to hack it off and start over.


WIP Exarch of Earth. The quartz in the back is painted to look like a massive glowing lightstone. All of the Warp Spider guns will have similar lightstone guns. Their mask designs will be painted on the large, flat backs.


Lastly, my Rangers. I don't want any exposed Eldar faces in my army, so they all met the business end of the clipper and got spare Guardian heads. Their mask designs will be painted on back-mounted flags (like the one seen here (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/toametru189/mnog/kopaka_matoro.jpg)) .


06-12-2006, 11:36
Any more progress? I'm loving how this is turning out...

11-12-2006, 23:14
Hmm... not much interest in the last batch of pictures, apparently. Well I'm going home Wednesday night and I'll get painting again. I also have a Wave Serpent waiting, and I need opinions.

No gems:


Or gems?:


I can't decide if the extra color adds to the vehicle or detracts. I personally think it's a bit much, but a friend who I trust in these sorts of matter says it would work if the gems were desaturated, subdued colors. And the lines of circles are going to be Matoran writing. Still need to decide what exactly to write.

Also - I want this to look almost like a flying temple, but I can't decide if I want to sculpt designs on or just paint them on. Sculpting would be more intricate, but more expensive and more work and make the vehicle look more cumbersome. Is it worth it?

11-12-2006, 23:24
Wow this army is looking good! Can't wait to see more!

20-12-2006, 20:02
Again, not much interest... but eh. Here's another post for those few who said they were interested.

I decided to give the Exarchs special weapons, not just large bases. So here's a converted triskele, dragon's breath flamer, and spinneret rifle (I later gave the spinneret rifle a different tip and put that one on the hawk's talon).


I started putting paint on the Dire Avengers. I really hate working with desert yellow. Lots more brown and vermin brown are coming where the black currently is, but this picture gives a sense of how the squads are going to look. 3-4 colors set up differently on the individuals. And yes, every single model has its name on the base. Also - the Exarch got a second barrel added to his Avenger shuriken catapult to represent the two guns the Exarch can take. Doesn't really show in this picture.


Started the blue on the Howling Banshees - Not sure if the yellow swords will look too much like giant bananas. May have to switch to orange.


And the very start of the Fire Dragons.


More stuff soon, since I'm actually home and able to work now...

20-12-2006, 20:51
Looking good! Keep it up!

20-12-2006, 21:16
It's all so good! I don't know how I missed the updates before this one, but I like the flying temple idea on the serpeant. As to the gems, I ... am really conflicted as well, though I want to say no gems, only because of how distracting they are when colored in the second pic. Maybe subdued they'd be good, but so many colors ...

Dig the custom exarch weapons, and really cool to see the exarch's color starting to appear on their aspect buddies.

As awesome as the beastmen are, hurray for holiday break and more Eldar ;)

- Salvage

20-12-2006, 22:51
Cool stuff. Never noticed this thread before. I like what you did with the wraithlord and waveserpent. Don't do the gems btw, or do them one colour. 6 different colours looks lame.

Good luck with it, and kudos on the creative angle.

23-12-2006, 15:40
Don't do the gems btw, or do them one colour. 6 different colours looks lame.
I agree. I'll probably just paint the gems to try it out, then paint over.

More WIP models:





I know Rangers don't have Exarchs, but the inclusion of the guy on the big base is going to represent them being a Pathfinder squad. The Warp Spider's spinneret rifle also needs highlighting. But yeah, the army's coming along...

Warwolt the skaven
23-12-2006, 15:52
All of this is going to turn out extremly cool! Tough why is one of the bases coated in Ice?

23-12-2006, 15:59
Like the look of the army, and that it all sticks to a central theme is excellent. My only comment would be that the avenger exarch's helmet is a bit flat colour wise, maybe a little ink on the central area, or some shading

self biased
23-12-2006, 16:47
such wonderfully vivid colors. kudos.

Nebëhr Gudahtt
23-12-2006, 17:08
Looks amazing, really makes me feel like I should do more than basic sand/flock bases. Definitely looking forward to seeing more.

23-12-2006, 17:39
This is looking really nice. Strange theme, but excellently pulled off. This is going to be an awesome army when it's done.

23-12-2006, 17:54
I, as many others, have not noticed this thread before.

Rather odd theme, but I like the way it is turning out. The models still have the Eldar feel to them, while still being different from all the other Eldar armies out there. Nice work, I will be watching this thread from now on.

23-12-2006, 20:08
the Howling banshee exarch...how did you do the base!

23-12-2006, 20:16
OH YEAH! That is niiiice!

I was pretty adicted to Bionicle when I was around 10(ish) and those are sweet!

Keep it up! I really wanna see how this turns out...:D

24-12-2006, 13:29
Wow - lots of posts!

why is one of the bases coated in Ice?
Each of the units is from a different elemental region. The Fire Dragons are obviously fire, so their Exarch gets a base with lava. Howling Banshees are water, Dire Avengers are stone, Swooping Hawks are air (their region is dense jungle, so they got a tree), Warp Spiders are earth (the mound of soil and giant lightstone native to their region), and the Rangers are ice.

My only comment would be that the avenger exarch's helmet is a bit flat colour wise, maybe a little ink on the central area, or some shading
Agreed. When I paint the rest of the Vermin Brown parts on the Dire Avengers I'll work them all up with some more extreme highlights.

the Howling banshee exarch...how did you do the base!
First I cut a semicircle out of the base, then placed in on the groun, and built up the walls with greenstuff.


Then I added white "dries clear" glue. The cattails were made from paperclips, greenstuff, and a sliver of card for the leaf.


Triskele was made from Dark Eldar helmet blades, greenstuff, and a bit of plastic.

I was pretty adicted to Bionicle when I was around 10(ish) and those are sweet!
I got into it in 2001 with my younger brother, so I guess I was 13. Then I started talking to the author of the comics and books, and having a personal onnection with him made it more fun to follow the story. I also have the Encyclopedia dedicated to a friend and me and have my name in one of the guides. :D

16-01-2007, 10:56


Again, the colors -which IMO make this army so vibrant and fun to paint - are a bit annoying. I still don't have the Hawk Turquoise I need, so that limits my progress on them. And I need a good base for my Bad Moon Yellow, keeping my Fire Dragons from expanding. Plus I'm out of Desert Yellow. Need to get those, but I go back to school tomorrow. Either the day my War Walkers arrive, or the day before. Can't wait to convert those up. :(

16-01-2007, 13:35
mmm, liking it a lot - hadn't seen this thread before (but I am quite new to these forums anyway...)

colours on the banshees, hawks and guardians are all really nice. really love the banshee base. with the fire dragon lava base, how about sticking some blackened rocks onto it - floating along the top of the lave before melting down below...

only real piece of 'constructive criticism' I would give is to make the lines straighter on the falcon. it looks a bit Orky at the moment, try to make those bionical faces look a bit like eldar runes - that will look well neat IMO

how did you do the paving slabs on the bases btw?

17-01-2007, 03:41
Some people are going to like this, some are going to hate it. Here's my first early-concept War Walker.


Still needs some armor, bitz, and guitar wire. It'll be painted in the same colors as the Warp Spider in front of it. It's based on this (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/tomdroidser/agesofbionicle/2002/titains/boxor.jpg), hence the very exposed pilot, squat form, and long arms. The guns are also pinned to be swappable.

17-01-2007, 04:04
The only thing i dont really like is the upside down cannons...otherwise its a pretty cool idea :)

I like your painting a lot...and while I dont neccesarily dig cross genre themes like this, your skill and the color schemes are really making it work :)

24-01-2007, 05:01
Thanks, FearFrost - means a lot coming from you. :) The upside-down cannons will probably be modified by a different mounting, removing the sights, or even cutting the weapons and flipping them so they appear upright.

And sorry I didn't address this post before - I meant to but forgot. Whups...

only real piece of 'constructive criticism' I would give is to make the lines straighter on the falcon. it looks a bit Orky at the moment, try to make those bionical faces look a bit like eldar runes - that will look well neat IMO
Yes, the lines in the picture were only jagged because I was tracing images in Photoshop. And that's much faster and easier when you're tracing with straight lines. The real thing will be smooth.

how did you do the paving slabs on the bases btw?
I very, very tediously cut out hundreds of rectangles of card. Then I round the edges and put them in a pile. Next a base gets covered in glue, the rectangles are arranged on the base, and it's dunked in sand to fill the gaps. Then, once it's dry, the parts of card extending over the base are cut off.

I just wrote a background blurb on my army (can post if anyone's interested) and I thought it would be fun if some real - not Eldar imitation - biomechanical beings joined the army. Or, more likely, were taken by the Eldar to learn from. Of course the Eldar can't let them survive once they know the Eldar exist, so the poor guys wind up living with the Eldar.

Here's a picture giving a good sense of Matoran proportions - they're almost ape-like and would be about 3.5-4 feet tall.


(Side note - I'm thinking of making a weapon support platform based on that crab with a gun on its back). So they'd be a bit more than half Eldar height. I'd probably "heroic scale" them to be ~neck level on the Eldar, but I'm planning on making my own Matoran.


Here you see the 5 parts I'd make and cast. I could then pose them to be running, throwing spears, climbing, etc. I'd play them using Striking Scorpion rules, but I have no idea what to use as ranged weapons. I want them to look very primitive, so right now my options are proper shuriken pistols from the Eldar or - more likely - volo lutu (essentially slingshots).

So yeah. I think a squad of primitive natives with spears and slingshots would be fun alongside the Eldar. Exarch would get move through cover (to represent them having lived in the wilderness so long). I also want a scorpion's claw on him, but I don't know what sort of primitive tool could represent a powerfist. Maybe just a big hammer amidst all the other daggers and spears.

Long post, yeah... but any thoughts?

24-01-2007, 10:10
The war walker looks realistically like a construction-walker used by Eldar artisans. Good work!


26-01-2007, 22:10
Started laying yellow on the fire dragons. It's Vallejo's Gold Yellow, and when I get back home I'll go over most of it with Bad Moon Yellow. I actually have the proper colors to finish the rest of the models here, so I may do everything besides the yellow later on.


And I want to put some warpaint-looking designs on the Eldar-allied Matoran. Small sections will probably get patterns of lines and dots just for color, but for large flat areas - like the backs of hands and most masks - I want to paint on Eldar runes. Does anyone have any images of Eldar runes which might have some sort of meaning for the wearer?


And I know the sketch is terrible, I scribbled it down as everyone was leaving Econ.

26-01-2007, 22:41
i just got to say i love the theme i remember my cousin having dvd with gold bioniclo you convert it into an avater as the maybe

29-01-2007, 15:40
Dragons looking gorgeous, but what's with the one with different colored legs? Just varying the scheme up, or is he special somehow?

Otherwise I'm no help on the runes, but always looking forward to what you come up with.

- Salvage

30-01-2007, 23:30
i just got to say i love the theme i remember my cousin having dvd with gold bioniclo you convert it into an avater as the maybe
Takanuva (http://www.1000steine.com/brickset/images/8596-1.jpg) will be the basis for an Autarch on a jetbike.

what's with the one with different colored legs? Just varying the scheme up, or is he special somehow?
The only two identical ones are actually the same character - the one with the flamer will be an Exarch and the normal one will be used in smaller armies where I don't use the Fire Dragon Exarch. So you can see all of them are actually unique - one yellow/red/yellow, one yellow/black/red, and one red/black/yellow. Most of the models will be unique. I'm also doing some mixing of editions, as this army is stranded with few supplies and so contains a mix of newer and older armor.

Tell me if this sounds like a fair thing to do, since I want to sculpt Matoran and don't feel that Harlequins fit into my army theme:

Harlequins: Due to its isolation, Craftworld Mata Nui does not include Harlequins when it goes to battle. Some Matoran recruits have found their way into the army, however, and fulfill a similar battlefield role. Their skill in navigating difficult terrain, born from a life in the wilderness, replaces the Harlequin’s flip belts and their rage at being stolen away from their homes by the Eldar manifests in furious assaults and withdrawls in combat. Their powerful biomechanical muscles allow them to punch through heavy armor as easily as a Harlequin’s Kiss and, though they lack the agility of the Harlequins, their tough armor plating occasionally renders them invulnerable to otherwise fatal blows. Though their spears and slingshots are primitive weapon, when backed by incredible strength and explosive ammunition the Matoran make for highly capable warriors.

Of course I'll make it clear to all of my opponents that these odd little guys with spears are Harlequins with Kisses. Here's a scale shot:


I just think the image of these little guys killing Space Marines and Tyranid Warriors is funny. But hey, a stone through the eye lens will kill you just as dead as a bullet will. ;)

Still in college, but greenstuff is coming. Expect sculpting from scratch relatively soon, then some interesting attempts at stamping out parts with greenstuff molds.

31-01-2007, 14:23
Though their spears and slingshots are primitive weapon, when backed by incredible strength and explosive ammunition the Matoran make for highly capable warriors.

I just think the image of these little guys killing Space Marines and Tyranid Warriors is funny. But hey, a stone through the eye lens will kill you just as dead as a bullet will. ;)
I dig the fluff justification, and I think Harlequins, being so unique an entry, are a good choice for the little guys. Also, I love 'savage, pulpy' type sci-fi in 40k, like spears & bows going up against marines and harder sci-fi, so more power to you!

- Salvage

07-02-2007, 21:48
Quick question - is the 3/5 rating of this thread is due to the childish theme? Not typically the sort of thing I'd pay attention to, but it's a sharp contrast to my 5/5 Beastmen blog (which I frankly think is much more boring and low-quality, though the progress is a lot faster!).

Here's the initial sculpt for the "Harlequins". After I finish these 5 parts (I'm ditching the hand, going to use SM hands instead) I'll make molds and copies of the parts and use paper clips to pin the limbs in different poses. One Shadowseer with Kiss (extra warpaint, holding up a grenade and a spear in the other hand), 3 with Kisses (spears) and two vanilla (daggers).


Bright green shows what's to come, though the chest armor will be individually sculpted on each to make them unique. The slightly lopsided bits will be fixed once the rest is done via sanding and GS smoothing.

Also note that the actual model is very tiny - assembled, it could fit in the image's foot!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that, of course, faces will be sculpted onto the individual heads. Not leaving them with those tiny nubs for faces.

Rogue 7
07-02-2007, 22:05
The painting looks great. As an old-time Bionicle fan, I'm glad you went with the old-school bionicles. Toa Nuva were all right, but after that I didn't even bother. Not sure if I like the idea of Matoran in your army. It ties the theme together nicely, but I had thought that the eldar just sort of "were" the matoran. I don't know why- maybe it's the look of the guys.

08-02-2007, 02:53
Originally that was sort of the plan... I was unsure what exactly I wanted at first, then I wrote this half-assed fluffy thing:

What is now known as Craftworld Mata Nui is an ideal example of why other races find the Eldar to be so enigmatic. Drawn to a seemingly uninhabited and extremely remote planet by the presence of an odd orbiting feature known as the “Red Star,” the Eldar settled the planet with the intention of abandoning their damaged Craftworld. Upon discovering the natives, biomechanical creatures of organic muscle fused to inorganic metal-like skeletons and carapace, the Craftworld Farseers advised noninterference. Underground the Eldar discovered vast and innumerable chambers, and the Eldar population settled into their new lifestyle. Over hundreds of years of observation of the island’s natives the Craftworld adopted the habits, appearances, and eventually even names of the island’s main sentient population, the Matoran. Matoran language was deciphered, their carvings and Wall of History studied, and slowly the Craftworld’s leaders did away with their own history in lieu of a new future.

It is unknown at this point what the Eldar plan. Though a meeting with the Matoran at some point might seem logical, the Eldar have been extremely surgical in killing any Matoran who stumble upon Eldar individuals or technology. The bodies are then maimed to resemble Rahi (animal) attacks and left for the other natives to find. At the same time, the orbiting Craftworld serves to alert Eldar on the surface to any intruders in the system. Only diligent background fighting by the Eldar has kept the Matoran from Ork infestation or Imperial discovery. On rare occasions the Eldar will use what little spacefaring technology they have left intact to launch raids on the industrial planets of the Imperium encroaching too near to the Eldar’s new home planet.

Some Matoran have been taken into Eldar society. Though they are never allowed to return home, they teach the Eldar how to survive on their island and the more adventurous ones may even accompany the Eldar to battle.
So you can sort of see what's happening. Eldar are assimilating Matoran culture for unknown reasons. I personally think the mystery behind it is Eldar-ish in itself. To quote the Codex, "There is no understanding them for there is nothing to understand - they are a random force in the universe." They could identify the Toa with Eldar gods, they could see Makuta as a Chaos entity (he essentially is a daemon, to all intents and purposes). The natural next step, then, is to make a Chaos army loyal to Makuta. :D

Here's a quick snapshot of the Matoran next to a Fire Dragon. I know the focus was off, ignore the Gor in the background.


He's very tiny, as you can see. Still, Matoran are ridiculously strong. All the power armor in the world won't help if one of them slams the narrow of his hand into a Space Marine's throat.

08-02-2007, 04:39
I'll admit...I HATED this theme when I first saw it, I wished you the best of luck, but personally I would never, EVER, commit myself to such a theme...

HOWEVER, your execution is amazing and as I've looked over the past couple pages of work I am very impressed with how well you've managed to pull it off!


-peace out

12-02-2007, 20:55
Scrubout, it's much more satisfying to "convert" someone to an idea than to please someone who loves the idea to begin with. Glad you like, and hopefully it'll be a lot more impressive when I actually have a single completed unit! Right now it's just various stages of WIPness. I really wish I was at home more often.

Very close to completion. Foot needs filing on the sides to make it more narrow, torso needs hip covers and heartlight, and arm needs piston. Then I can make molds, which is the hard part to get right.

If anyone can link me to any tutorials on making molds with greenstuff, I'd appreciate it. I have my own ideas, but I don't want to wind up ruining the work I've already done.

15-02-2007, 02:47
Alright, changed my mind. I decided to give them discs (http://www.sweb.cz/arthur.k.w/und320x336us0kongu.jpg) instead of slingshots to represent the ranged pistol attack. It would operate less like a pistol than a slingshot, but eh... it's more keeping with the theme.


Then I made my first stamp and cast. I used a water-based moisturizing cream as a release agent, to keep the greenstuff from sticking together. It worked perfectly and leaves no residue whatsoever.


The disc came out looking messy (because I decided to move it before it was dry and I cut the notches too large), but I can fix it up. The foot mold's also a bit too wide, so I'll have to work on the feet with a file before I'm happy with them. But still, it gets the job done.


Kasrkin 666
15-02-2007, 03:42
Any plans on Makuta and the Dark Hunters.:p That would be awsome! Or maybe even the Order of Mata-Nui.:)


19-02-2007, 05:22
I'm planning on making Makuta as an Avatar... eventually. Right now I want to finish my standard 2000 pt list, then I'll add other interesting models (infected Matoran Striking Scorpions, Rahkshi Dark Reapers, etc).

Here's the very early start of Autarch Takanuva (http://home.no.net/dybsand/Ludvig/bionicle/takanuva2.jpg) on his jetbike (based on the Ussanui (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Vakama2005/Avatars/ussanui.jpg)).


I just added a second set of tubing above the first, and I'm going to sculpt a round piece of armor plating between them. More progress soon...

20-02-2007, 22:02
Gave a new blade to the Autarch, which I immediately regret... I'll make it smaller.




Matoran after current bitz order:


He obviously needs a lot of work, but he's getting there. Here's hoping the torso molds work out alright... if they do, I'm all set to make the six Matoran!

21-02-2007, 09:00
Oooooh! Coool! I like that Matoran...keep at it!:D

21-02-2007, 14:41
Nice nice nice autarch! I was wondering how you were going to fit the obligatory autarch-on-bike into the army's theme, but apparently there are bionicle on bikes so there you go ;)

The matoran with bitz added looks good, and I'm a fan of that ungor spear on the lil' guy. What is missing from him? Sculpted face mask only? All looking good though, and again I really dig that autarch.

Also, I saw a TV ad for some new, deep sea bionicle critters. Looked quite cool, and I thought of you and your project ...

- Salvage

22-02-2007, 17:52
Thanks, guys! The Matoran is going to get a disc on his back, a mask, and a bit of muscle sculpted over the bare paperclips.


Fusion gun:


22-02-2007, 18:05
That isnt sharpie on the hull, is it?!

Sometimes, sharpie shows through paint...be warned.

The GS work on that autarch is really sweet, and those little dudes you scratchbuilt are neat too.

22-02-2007, 18:08
That jetbike conversion is really good, and whilst the theme doesn't appeal to me (if you'd go Lego-style pirates it'd most certainly have, since I've grown up with them!), it's very nice to see variation.


22-02-2007, 20:49
Great job on the GS on the Autarch. I like how you used the Ungor spear on the the little guys.

Keep it up!

24-02-2007, 00:19
Sometimes, sharpie shows through paint...be warned.
It is Sharpie, I had no idea it showed through paint... even primer? Very odd. I'll give it a wipe before I prime. And thanks for the compliments!

(if you'd go Lego-style pirates it'd most certainly have, since I've grown up with them!)
I was actually thinking of doing pirate Ogres as my fantasy army - how about I paint them yellow with smily faces? :p

Next I'll do the Autarch's base (tiles, jungle plants, and a Matoran sculpture) and, after my brother's package arrives, glue on the last piece and paint him. As for the Matoran, I'm sort of sick of sculpting for the time being. I'm going to work a bit on my Beastmen commission painting before I do anymore on the Matoran.

Sorry abut posting with no new sculpt/paintwork. But I finally caved in and decided to let Guardians into the army. They'll look like this (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/Concepts/guardian.jpg) and their weapon platforms will look like crabs with guns (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/Concepts/ussalgun.jpg), as I posted earlier. No idea how to make the crabs yet...

25-02-2007, 09:15
This is a great log. Wish I had some good ideas like this...
: D


self biased
25-02-2007, 09:33
exceptional work. keep it up, please. i especially dig the perversely high contrast in your fire dragons.

27-02-2007, 18:47
you're jetbike is well cool and thats an interesting use for guitar strings :)

27-02-2007, 20:33
Love the nose work on the jetbike. GS usually doesn't look good on bike fairings, but your skill with symetttry makes it doable.

Also love the fusion gun mount and the wire. Keep it up!!

27-02-2007, 22:44
i especially dig the perversely high contrast in your fire dragons.
lol, glad that particular issue's being accepted. And here they are again - just need a bit of touching up and gray highlighting (no gray at college).


And here's the Autarch with his near-complete base. I'm going to sculpt a vine creeping up the Mata Nui stone (http://slizerlegacy.pbwiki.com/f/Matanuistone.JPG) after it dries. But this should be the last you see of him until he's painted.


I really am glad he turned out looking so much like the Toa - the Autarch dererves detailed custom armor. Hopefully the wonky poses and wargear of the Phoenix Lords won't give me too much trouble, when I eventually get around to doing them.

28-02-2007, 21:04
Wheeee, third post in a row. I swear I won't post again until someone else does after this, honestly.


I'm very happy with how the Staff of Light came out. Looks too shiny in the picture, but it's actually not too chromey. I just worked it up from a dark silver to a white-silver for highlights. Hopefully this model will be really easy to recognize for any Bionicle fan, since it'll be attracting a lot of attention (and firepower) on the table.

I should get the last piece I need tomorrow, then I can paint the entire jetbike. It'll be all silver except for the black details, black guns, and brown leather seat. Nobody want to go to battle sitting on a metal seat.

I don't have the gray (black highlights), yellow (eye/heartlight detail) or bronze (armor) needed to finish Takanuva. I have a bright gold, but it's the wrong color. I'll use it for highlighting the darker bronze.

The "Harlequin" squad assembly is going well. After today I should have the main parts of 4 assembled (out of 6).

El Presedente
28-02-2007, 23:46
Thats Serious stuff, I remember bionicle, awesome stuff. You rarely see an army outside the Imperial Guard thats converted to such an extent with such originality, well done.

28-02-2007, 23:59
Yeah, funny how Eldar are supposedly the "modler's army", but no-one really wants to mess with the beautiful sculpts, huh?

Kasrkin 666
02-03-2007, 03:50
Seriously. Very nice though!:D


02-03-2007, 08:23
Impressive work. I've never been a big fan of Bionicle (I got converted to K'nex at one point in my childhood... now I am turning into an Engineer :p)

The bright theme, while not my thing, is pulled off very well, and I am looking forward to seeing the army complete. Its also making me want to do some proper basing on my models, not just sand/pebbles.

I am amazed at your sculpting skills; I need to get over being super cheap and get some Green stuff, I'm running out of ideas for making models solely out of bits.

On army list you put up way long ago, I only noted one odd thing.. the Conceal in the Warlock squad. As they all have 4+ Inv saves, they don't need the 5+ cover save really. Just do another Destructor, be just like my squad, which is very effective ;)

Keep up the good work, I wants to see mores, mores of its!

04-03-2007, 21:49
On army list you put up way long ago, I only noted one odd thing.. the Conceal in the Warlock squad. As they all have 4+ Inv saves, they don't need the 5+ cover save really. Just do another Destructor, be just like my squad, which is very effective
Good catch - I noticed it as I was actually reading what powers did, right after posting that list. I saw the description of Conceal as summoning a mist or fog, and so immediately gave the power to the water-themed Warlock. It now has Destructor.

Here's the "Harlequins" so far. One needs arms and the last squad member needs to be made (6 total).


The one on the far left is jumping off a stump and stabbing with both hands (rending!). The armless one will be throwing a disk (shooting). All of them still need tons of details sculpted, the faces not least of all.

Thanks for the support, everyone. It's appreciated. :)

Warwolt the skaven
04-03-2007, 21:52
omg, omg. what IS that o_O

05-03-2007, 16:12
Those are AWESOME Pekel, loving the little guys already. Great poses throughout, looking forward to seeing how the faces, etc turn out.

- Salvage

14-03-2007, 03:48
Back home for spring break, and tons of stuff! Matoran masks are being sculpted, but I'll have photos of them later.

War Walker progress:


Ranger progress:


Wave Serpent progress (masks will be neatened up and darkened):


Autarch progress. STUPID NEW PRIMER TYPE messed up... came out chunky. I smoothed it out a bit and then just painted over it. Not too happy. It also shows a bit on the Wave Serpent, but I wanted a sandstone look there so I don't mind as much.


14-03-2007, 03:54
4-winged jetbikes (shrieker bike still needs details and wings - I'll probably remove the "targeting eye" on the rider):


And finally, just so I have a reason to ally my Tyranids with my Eldar: my Genestealer Cult Farseer. I had an extra Warlock and an extra Macragge 'Stealer, so why not?


My goal is to have the Rangers and Wave Serpent entirely finished before I go back to school - shouldn't be hard. If I finish early I'll finish off the Dire Avengers.

14-03-2007, 18:40
Big update, w00t! Good stuff in the pipe, and a real pity about the primer weirdness. Few things I hate more than bad primer ...

I like where the serpeant is headed, as well as the autarch.
The 'stealer 'lock is madness, of course.

- Salvage

17-03-2007, 10:16
Almost complete Wave Serpent - just need details on the pilot and some finishing touches on the underside (neatening up the tan drybrush, not that anyone'll see it).


I just did the first Tyranid with my revised scheme. I'm going to change the gray to a darker gray with Codex Gray for highlights, use yellow ink on the Rotting Flesh parts, and finish the base the same as my commissioned Beastmen. But basically this is it, and it'll be applied to the Genestealer Cult Farseer (who will be converted to hold a Singing Spear).


I was iffy about repainting my 2000+ points of Tyranids (http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=114003) in the new very close scheme, but they were all painted to such a low standard that I'm now looking forward to seeing them painted well.

EDIT: I just realized I forgot to include the photo of my Falcon before. I converted it so the the multi-laser looks at least a little different from a standard scatter laser - I cut off the barrel of the standard oversize bright lance and mounted the scatter laser barrel upside-down. That left the left mount free, so I can replace the weapons with the swappable one from my Wave Serpent (bright lance, shuriken cannon, star cannon, missile launcher). Turret might not look as impressive without the massive bright lance, but it's much more flexible!


El Presedente
17-03-2007, 12:48
Those are ******** sweet. I love just the little details like the flags on the rangers.

19-03-2007, 19:28
Before I forget I want to include my thanks to Boss_Salvage for his consistent positive comments. It does make a big difference, and I am grateful to both him and everyone else who's replied.

I realized two things after posting that last Falcon picture. First, it's a pulse laser. IG have multi-lasers. Second, my Falcon looked really wimpy. So I stuck the original bright-lance clone-gun back on and added a second barrel to suggest a higher rate of fire. I also swapped out the tips to bits cut off some vehicle equipment, again to stress the fact that these are not bright lances. I'm much happier now - actually looks like a gun tank again while still differing slightly from the original.


Now I just need to blend the vanes into the tank with greenstuff, and I can go prime it. When I get home, as I'm back at school until summer...

19-03-2007, 21:00
My pleasure Pekel, and you're the one sharing the great pics of amazing modeling projects ;)

On the newest stuff, the doubled gun is fantastic, and makes it look more like a gunship than any of the falcons I've seen. Quite an improvement. The 'serpeant is very cool too, though it's odd to see an eldar skimmer without any of the gem details picked out ... I don't think it's 'wrong' at all like it is, and hey, this isn't everybody else's eldar!

- Salvage

01-04-2007, 06:08
These models are freaking sweet :) How long 'til you can get back to work on them :D

03-04-2007, 03:09
Boss_Salvage, I'm glad the gunship theme came across. My only army before this was Tyranids (and the Dark Eldar I share with my brother, though he played them a lot more than I did) so the ideas of skimmers, vehicles, armor values, armor saves, and heavy firepower are all very exotic and appealing. :D

matthewmw64, I only have the Matoran (Harlequins) with me at college, so I'll have them completely sculpted soon. But besides that, the rest of the models will have to wait until early May. Which is a massive shame.

Before I share more - I'd be interested in perhaps getting someone to commission an army for when I finish the Beastmen one I'm working on now (link in signature). Here's (http://www.freewebs.com/dolanminiatures/futureprojects.htm) some ideas on my website, which might be an interesting read even if you have absolutely no interest in buying.

Now, here's the Harlequins again. I sculpted a bit more onto the masks, added arm muscles (not very noticable, but it really alleviates the pinned-limb look) and added detail to the previously-flat backs. The jumping guy's mask is way too small, I'll need to sculpt over that to make it the right size...



Next sculpting session I'll probably finish all the masks, finish the leg muscle, and neaten up the wrists and other messy parts. Then they'll be done and ready to prime!

03-04-2007, 05:58
Out of interest, what arms did you use for the Matoran?

04-04-2007, 00:39
This thread is great great. The converting is soo nice and the falcon looks great.

06-04-2007, 03:22
matthewmw64, the arms - like all of the other dark green parts - are sculpted from greenstuff. The hands are from Space Marines. Thanks Weregerbil!

I did more sculpting on the Matoran, but it doesn't look radically new enough to justify taking new pictures. Leg muscles finished, discs glued onto the backs of Matoran not holding them, masks finished, animal-hide cape glued on Shadowseer (Matoran holding the grenade), chest of last Matoran sculpted, and greenstuff work all around neatened up with a file and razor. I also swapped the skull on the leaping guy for one like the Shadowseer's. I then took that skull and glued it on the end of another Matoran's spear. In hindsight I'm not sure I like the idea, but eh.

So tomorrow's Friday, meaning I'll probably have time to work. If so I'll completely finish the Matoran and perhaps even get some primer/paint on them!

06-04-2007, 03:23
Oh my bad, by arms I meant the hands holding the spears.

06-04-2007, 03:46
Those little short guys are the coolest thing I have ever seen in my life....NICE WORK!

06-04-2007, 04:02
Great work! I used to blow all my money on Bionicle, and this theme works great with Eldar.

Please tell me you'll incorporate Bohrok
I thought they would look cool as war walkers, but you've got that covered allready. Maybe as Wraithguard?

06-04-2007, 04:10
Really bad 5-minute Photoshop, but you get the idea...


They're not in any of my army lists up to 2500 points, so they fit into the category of "models I want to make eventually after finishing up all the standard stuff". These models are the Bohrok Wraithguard, Infected Striking Scorpions, Makuta Avatar, and Mata Nui Revenant Titan.

MATA NUI DIES. This year. Greg Farshtey just said it... what the ****. Sorry, but if anyone's an old Bionicle fan, that should strike a bit of a chord.

06-04-2007, 04:16
Nice, that would be cool. I dug up my Bionicle stuff recently and took my red, black, and brown Bohrok and put them together to make the big bohrok thing. I found my Toa of Light too, (Takanuva?). His bike is sweet, you did it justice.

06-04-2007, 04:29
While I wasn't hot on the idea originally, not really knowing anything about Bionicle, you have fully converted me. The conversions are wonderful, the sculpting amazing, and the painting simply stunning.

Consider yourself subscribed :p

08-04-2007, 02:43
Glad you think the painting is stunning - hopefully it'll be more so when I have some finished models! Basically everything is in varied states of WIP, even seemingly-finished things like the Fire Dragons. They need better yellow etc.

Finished the Matoran sculpting!


I primed the leader and should paint him up soon, between Beastmen.

Here's a little thing I made for my brother, might as well show it. It's a familiar made from a jungle swarm lizard for his dragon-themed Space Marine Chapter.


15-04-2007, 08:27
I need gray paint to finish and a new primer to start the others. When they're all basically painted I'll go back and add blood/dirt.

In addition to weathering and gray he'll probably get speckles on the muscles, as the texture's supposed to be pebbly. I also might add some dead flesh onto the vines on the spear, as they look too fresh now. Plus blacklining of the heartlight.



15-04-2007, 18:34
I actually dispised this log when it started (I have 3 sons and millions of lost hours building the bloody stuff) but I've got to say, its come together brilliantly! Keep it going! :)

15-04-2007, 20:27
The paintjob on that little guy looks great. Nice glow effects :)

15-04-2007, 21:46
Those things are awesome.

16-04-2007, 19:56
Ah! Looking great with paint, you can really make out all the sculpting now. Great painting too - the wood grain, etc. Awesome work man.

- Salvage

Kasrkin 666
17-04-2007, 03:22
What! I just say the post you put that says Mata-Nui dies!:eek: That sucks! Thanks for spoiling it.:p


20-04-2007, 00:44
Two more almost done. Still need final details, and I'll probably do that once the six are all at this level.



(I have 3 sons and millions of lost hours building the bloody stuff)
You wouldn't happen to be my dad, would you? :p

L' aéronautique d' Eldar
20-04-2007, 07:33
OMG! they're sooo cute!!!!
btw those Matoran fellas... i think dats what you called em, the small guys in anycase, does lego make em in that scale:confused: If not could you please please do a step by step instuction for making em??after seeing this im tempted to use em as harlies to satisfy my inner child:p

Dat Wildboy
20-04-2007, 09:58
i saw this and i liked it from the start. at first it was weird but likeable, but you've pulled it off brilliantly. the bionicle iconography fits well surpripingly. very nice.

it even fits with eldar fluff. pre fall eldar had constructs that would fight, explore, do stuff for them. why couldn't a few survive it?

they look really nice, the bases, everything. great job.

23-04-2007, 17:35
those Matoran fellas... i think dats what you called em, the small guys in anycase, does lego make em in that scale
Hah... Lego's are quite a bit larger. In fact, here's a picture of a Dire Avenger standing on a Matoran head:


A singe Matoran toting guns could be fielded as a War Walker, if you really wanted to. But they're way too large for infantry.

Here's the closest thing I have to a step-by-step tutorial.
Main body oval, spheres at shoulders and hips, small oval with lines for abdominals. Foot is a small flat oval with a sphere on top, lump in front, and ridge around the heel. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin.jpg)
Scale shot. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin2.jpg)
Details added. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin3.jpg)
Finalized parts. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin4.jpg)
Pieces stamped out (hence loss of detail and slight puffiness in the final models). (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin5.jpg)
Base assembly from stamped parts. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin7.jpg)
Bitz added - Space Marine hands, Ungor spears, and assorted skulls. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin8.jpg)
Masks, muscles and chest armor sculpted. (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/WIP/matorlequin93.jpg)

I saved the original parts I sculpted so that hopefully someday I can cast them. I'd love to make more for another Harlequin squad, and some Bionicle fans might even be willing to buy them for various reasons.

I primed the last 3 and should start painting relatively soon. Beastmen come first, though... :(

24-04-2007, 21:26
Sorry for another double post...


I'm debating painting Eldar warpaint runes on the little guys. I was thinking of doing it in each one's eye color on the flat of their forearm. Would that make them too cluttered, or is it a good idea? Red guy would get the Fire Dragon rune, blue would get Howling Banshee, white would get Ranger, brown would get Dire Avenger, and the unpainted green and black would get Swooping Hawk and Warp Spider.

25-04-2007, 22:11
It'd certainly re-tie them to Eldar, and be a nice little touch to boot.

26-04-2007, 20:33
Excellant work! The theme is interesting, sculpting looks very nice, and the detail! OMG I can't wait to see more.

Will you be actually playing with this army? Or just showcasing it? Because that would kick some serious a** if you busted that army out on a table for a game.

26-04-2007, 22:25
While I do like the elemental theme I dislike the bionicle mask theme. But painting is superb and and the sculpting is great. Unfortunately the lego theme takes away the 40k feeling for me.

03-05-2007, 20:05
Will you be actually playing with this army? Or just showcasing it? Because that would kick some serious a** if you busted that army out on a table for a game.
Oh, definitely playing it. I want to see how many kids can pick up all the references. The idea is that a kid who's a big Bionicle fan would know absolutely everything - why I painted the Jetbikes the way I did, the name of the gunner on the Vyper, etc.

Kurai, that's fine. I knew when I started that not everyone would like the theme, but it seems like most people are warming to it as they see the army come together.

I tried out the warpaint. I figured each Matoran would have the Harlequin symbol on their right arm (undeniable WYSIWYG!) and their matching aspect symbol on their left arm. This also shows the work on the last two Matoran, which I'll finish when I get home to my Scorpion Green and Liche Purple paints.


So, I should do that for the rest of 'em too?

El Presedente
03-05-2007, 21:37
hotness. Please continue.

04-05-2007, 00:35
This is the best Eldar army I've seen. Love the theme, the work, and your charming blog style :) Definitely keep it up!

04-05-2007, 00:38
yay more updates. this army is badass.

08-05-2007, 21:33
The four finished ones have blood painted on the weapons. I added a Vallejo Brown Ink layer to both further rust the weapons and make the blood look old and dried. These Matoran aren't metrosexual space elves - they get bloody and dirty and don't waste time cleaning up after. :p

I also added warpaint on the four, which I'm happy with. I get home tomorrow night after my final exam (introduction to economics), so expect finalized Matoran pictures then. I also bought more paint so I can finish the Howling Banshees and Swooping Hawks without having to go to GW to mooch off their paints.

Plus I'll start a THIRD project log for my redone Tyranid army. If you like old second-edition models converted and given new paint schemes you should enjoy it. ;)

09-05-2007, 16:12
Plus I'll start a THIRD project log for my redone Tyranid army. If you like old second-edition models converted and given new paint schemes you should enjoy it. ;)


I was gonna rock a 2nd Ed. Update Nid Army myself, but I chickened out. Clearly I was leaving it to you so you could knock it out of the park without feeling bad about making me look bad :p

Definitely looking forward to that one, I'm sure it'll be as spectacular as your other logs.

- Salvage

11-05-2007, 08:12
Sorry if I misled, there's only a few 2nd edition models - two Warriors, two Lictors, and a Tyrant. 3rd edition Raveners and Tyrant Guard. Rest are all current models.

Completely finished the Matoran! WOOHOO!


Plus I'm at home now, so expect regular updates on REAL Eldar. I'm sure you're all sick of my little Lego characters. :D

EDIT: Tyranid plog is up, link in signature!

Warwolt the skaven
11-05-2007, 10:33
... dude what IS that o-O

11-05-2007, 11:05
If by "that" you mean "those" and by "those" you mean "Matoran" you could have pursued several avenues of dicovery. Foremost amongst these would have been reading the topic, though searching Wikipedia would have turned up this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matoran) article. This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bionicle_society) article offers more background on the Bionicle universe.

I've nearly finished the 5 Howling Banshees with paint on them. I have four more that need priming. I'm trying to work my way through units instead of doing little bits here and there. After the Banshees are done I'll move on to the Swooping Hawks. Not much to photograph with the Banshees, as they largely look the same as they did in the last photo. I'll try to break up the boring infantry with interesting models, like the converted Jetbikes and the Falcon.

Hive Fleet Spectra
11-05-2007, 16:03
I've just finished reading through this plog and I am very impressed with your work so far Pekel.

I may be starting an Eldar army myself in the near future and your army has got my brain working on ideas of my own.

those Matoran models you have created from GS are also fantastic, my favourite I would say is the little red guy lunging into combat with his spear :cool: .

I will admit when I first saw this thread I wasn't sure what to make of it. However reading through this log I can see you have put alot of time and effort into this particular project, from concepts to action.

The way you present yourself and your log on here is also exemplary, very good work and its also nice to see something a bit different in style.

12-05-2007, 03:16
Thanks, Hive Fleet Spectra. :)

Told you guys I'd be making quick progress!



Not pictured are the near-finished Warp Spider and Banshee units. The Banshees still look pretty close to the last picture except for details, so Ill only post new images when the unit has real significant progress. The Spiders will probably be finished and shared tomorrow. Then... who knows? Anyone have something in particular they want to see?

14-05-2007, 19:43
Sweet autarch, and the base on the head ranger is quite cool. As for requests, what's happening with the 'warwalker' or the dire avengers? I was a big fan of the color scheme on the latter, and the former was a cool conversion from where I remember it being.

- Salvage

19-05-2007, 12:16
War Walkers just got their bases all card'd up and I got enough Weapons Platforms to give each one two Shuriken Cannons, so they're good to go. I primed two of the Jetbikes already, though, so they're probably next. But both of those things you mentioned are high on the list - I'll probably paint Dire Avengers between working on the Jetbikes, since the DA are in basically every army list and they should look decent.

Had some leftover GS from working on my Tyranids and stuck the Genestealer Cult Farseer together a bit more. Since he's using a Warlock body he gets a Farseer arm and crest to compensate. The Farseer crest will be blended more with GS and painted to look like Tyranid carapace.


I also got 3 Heavy Weapon Platforms and 32 Guardians, so I'll eventually work on them. They'll be painted like the tanks - tan with vine patterns and lime eyes.

19-05-2007, 12:34
Its all come together well! proved alot of people wrong, including me!

19-05-2007, 14:10
hey, nice idea... I haven't read the entire thing yet... but if you still haven't come to a conclusion on whatto do with the glowy stones, I'd say drill them from underneath, not completely hollow, just concentrate aroundthe centre... then paint the inside white and give the outside a wash with yellow ink... maybe use yellow paint on the edges or towards the bottom...

21-05-2007, 22:02
Merceus, I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about... what glowy stones?

I took a break from working on the Dire Avengers to snap the photo below. All the work on the Dire Avengers before was done with the horrible watery GW Desert Yellow. Now I'm going back with the Vallejo one and redoing them. I can't believe how much time I wasted trying to do them with the GW paint... ah well. They're starting to look much, much better.

Here's all the Eldar models I have. The group looks terrible together, since the varying colour schemes are made worse by the assorted unprimed / primed / WIP models. But in looking at it ugly now, hopefully we'll all appreciate it more when it's done. :p


22-05-2007, 06:50
Real update:



Exarch needs a bit of touching up (loincloth and gun's drybrushing). But those lots are pretty much done.

Chugging merrily along!

L' aéronautique d' Eldar
22-05-2007, 09:46
Nice.... i really like the colors... how did u do the orange on the fire dragon's helm? yellow with watered orange on top?

22-05-2007, 10:36
They are really well painted, hats off to you!

22-05-2007, 12:22
I know you said you would wait until the banshees were completed, but any chance of a shot on how the exarch's base turned out?


22-05-2007, 19:31
I know you said you would wait until the banshees were completed, but any chance of a shot on how the exarch's base turned out?

That's what it still looks like now. It's really cloudy - I'm not sure what to do with it. Leave it, paint it, ink it...? Any suggestions?

The Banshees shown there are all finished now, but they don't look too different. I've got four more waiting to be primed (older edition, this army has fluff justification for varying armor types) and I'll post pictures when they're all done.

how did u do the orange on the fire dragon's helm? yellow with watered orange on top?
Vallejo Gold Yellow (Sunburst Yellow) with Orange Fire (Blazing Orange) on top. It was painted earlier but it was a sloppy job, so I slapped the yellow on top. Then I heavily painted over that with the orange, highlighting back up to yellow. Pretty needlessly complex. :p

23-05-2007, 23:21
Real update!


But where are the masks?! I hear the astute amongst you shouting. Well, be patient - I need to finish them, and you'll probably see later this evening.

24-05-2007, 10:39
You bastards are all dead set on making this quite the thankless job! :p

Rear of Warp Spiders:


The pilot's not painted, but at the moment I don't much care since the canopy is frosted over. I'll probably get a clear canopy and paint the pilot eventually.


El Presedente
24-05-2007, 10:49
smarts. I like them.

24-05-2007, 11:18
Keep going, we're loving it :)

L' aéronautique d' Eldar
24-05-2007, 13:27
NICE!! More more !!!

24-05-2007, 14:39
Great stuff here !!!
Too bad that Im not Eldar fan :)

24-05-2007, 16:16
Ah, many new models. Thing is, are those spiders done? If so, the unit really doesn't gel for me, especially with the black one in the back looking unpainted IMHO. Having a hard time figuring out what color the unit is supposed to me, unless it's "LEGO colored" on purpose, with lots of color variation on purpose ...

Otherwise, I dig the vyper, nice aerials on the sides. Gunner is a nice bright target too :D

- Salvage

24-05-2007, 19:59
Vyper is amazing, I'm considering to steal that idea from you....
: D

25-05-2007, 03:09
The vipers wing-a-ma-bobs are wicked cool Pekel! I like the frosted cockpit too, looks nice.

Could you explain the colors on the spiders?

25-05-2007, 05:49
Yeah, the Spiders' colors really don't blend...

Onepu (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/punkin62/bioniclephotos/onepu.jpg)
Taipu (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/009/Stuff/taipu.jpg)
Aiyetoro (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Tahu1/BUG/aiyetoro.jpg)
Mamoru (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/punkin62/bioniclephotos/mamoru.jpg)

It's not my fault, blame Lego. Dunno why they stuck tan and orange in the earth village - it should have stayed all black, gray and purple. Not much I can do about it if I want to stick with the theme. :(

31-05-2007, 17:43
I'm trying to use the following crab-creature as the basis for a weapon platform.


I'm using chopped Gaunt limbs for the eye stalks and Guardian antennae for the legs. The idea is that it still floats, so the legs are just for decoration (as the Eldar have observed these creatures being used as beasts of burden). But I have NO idea how to make the arms or pinchers. You can't see in that picture, but the arms are essentially flexible ribbed tubing (like very thick guitar wire) and the pincers are flattened spheres. Any suggestions would be more than welcome. I'm planning on having the arms emerge from the vents right behind the eyes. And of course lots of neatening up and greenstuffing will take place before any painting. ;)


So help with it? Please?

01-06-2007, 02:40
Tau drones might look like the claws with a little work. Might be a bit big though.

:D I have the Bionicle movie:D

01-06-2007, 17:23
You could use Hormagaunt talons for the leg claws, with two pieces of plastic tube connected by a joint of Green Stuff for the legs themselves.

I think you're doing very well in carrying over the theme. When I saw your models I already thought of Bionicle before you mentioned it, and I know practically nothing about Bionicle apart from the fact it exists!
Keep up the good work.

05-06-2007, 17:12
Whoa, after being pointed in this direction by yourself pekel i'm amazed, its brillaint, and just shows great ability! very kool, another one of your threads im gonna have to watch!

06-06-2007, 21:59
Tau drones might look like the claws with a little work. Might be a bit big though.
Yeah, they'd be too large. Good thinking, though - if the scale were right they'd be near-perfect.

You could use Hormagaunt talons for the leg claws, with two pieces of plastic tube connected by a joint of Green Stuff for the legs themselves.
I originally sketched out a fancy and good-looking leg design, but it required greenstuff and paperclips and sculpting and I'm far too lazy for that. I think the Guardian antennae are going to stay as legs. Besides, I just got 6 more Hormagaunts and they need their arms more than the Eldar do. Tyranids are my REAL army - the Eldar are my fun and flashy second one. Plus with the new proliferation of Eldar armies out there, I'll need my Hormagaunts to take out any pesky heavy-weapon-toting Guardian squads. :evilgrin:

Thanks for all of the helpful and constructive advice, it's appreciated. Here's the gun-crabs as they stand now:


I don't like the balls at the base of the "claws" so I'll probably pull them apart and make tubing from greenstuff. But I think the War Walker hoofs work alright. Not perfect, but it seems the cheapest and easiest way to finish the models. Only $2 for the three feet I need off BWB.

My Falcon is primed and I'm about to go sculpt loinclothes on 7 more assorted Eldar (2 Hawks, 2 Dragons, 3 Banshees). I've also got a lot of other greenstuff to do for my commission, friends, and Tyranids. But after that I'll whip out the paints again, don't worry!

06-06-2007, 22:03
woah this is back (don't know if it went anywhere but still ...) those are some sweet figs :D

Rogue 7
06-06-2007, 22:13
Try trimming the "hooves" to look more like claws- right now they look like just that- hooves. Take off the bit that extends past the leg closer to the model (If you know what I mean) and curve it slightly, and it should look more "claw-ish"

10-06-2007, 12:57
Rogue 7, you mean the flat back of the claw? I'll see if I can round it when I make the new arms. Thanks for the suggestion.

Not much, but I finally started working more on the Hawks.


12-06-2007, 17:45
No takers, eh?

Two more Hawks (just need their masks):


Guardians. Notable things include the converted kneeling Guardians, the reloading one, and the one who's just removed his damaged helmet (will be much more apparent after painting), the one with the Dark Eldar head, and the progression of the weapon crab.


Anyone? Anything?

El Presedente
12-06-2007, 18:49
love those weapons platforms

Son of Makuta
14-06-2007, 21:04
Haha, this is dead cool. As you can guess from my username, I somewhat regret selling the big, badass Makuta kit :(

I love the Matoran. Their dynamism is great. Personally, if I was to make Toa models (which I may - you've inspired me!) I'd make them about 1.5-2 times human size, and the Matoran closer to human. I know they're not really *supposed* to be that size... (Well, Toa are 8-10 feet tall anyway, so they are.) But it'd be cool.

I like your Takanuva Farseer too, his mask is really well done. Same as the rest of it all! Keep it up!

Oh and hurry up with the Makuta Avatar :P

15-06-2007, 12:25
All I can say its a great job...
My knowledge about bionicle mythology is too small to help you...

I love those bright colours

15-06-2007, 14:26
Hey Pekel. It's 'Toa Nuva of Time' from Bzpower.

I must say, even when you've looked at the varius pics via Maj multiple times, reading this log makes the whole army all 'new' again. It is really coming along nicely. Lots of cool stuff: Exo-Toa, Takanuva, some Matoran, Vakama, 'Takua' on a 'Gukko'. Really turning out awsome. And your painting skills really make the whole thing very clean, vibrant, and colorful. It is distictly Bioncile, but still oviously Eldar. Fits perfectly for this army idea.

I've kinda become inspired by all these excelent minatures. So, I though, what should I try myself? Then I though of how cool a Rahkshi would be. So what to use as a base model? I really like the armored carapiece of the Tyranids, so I thought, why not try a Rahkshi in that style? Then I rewatched some movie clips of MoL (the Movie), and saw the Rahkshi were more like the Eldar, as far as lean, sleek, armor.

Either way, wether I go with a Tyranid Warrior as a base model, or a Eldar Avenger, I still have to reskulpt large protions of it. Especially snce I want the open 'flower head' on at least one of them. As far as the krata goes, a classic Ripper body would work well.

What do you think?

15-06-2007, 20:06

The platform looks awesome, really solid stuff. The color on the hawks is great too.

- Salvage

16-06-2007, 12:17
Thanks for the support, everyone!

Timedude, I was thinking I could eventually use Dark Reapers (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/eldar/painting/aspect/images/reaper5.jpg) as Rahkshi. Cut off the heads and sculpt new heads/backs with spines. Also, glad you joined - welcome to Warseer!

Also, since posting without pictures would be terrible, I got a better shot of the kneeling Guardians (still without greenstuff). I might make another one or two. They use the body/leg parts from the heavy weapon operators, cut apart and glued back together.


Tyranids need some love, but eventually I'll have more Eldar stuff. :)

16-06-2007, 12:54
I do like their poses, nice to see Elder in more than a standing pose, they are supposed to be more flexable than humans!

20-06-2007, 06:23
Oh and hurry up with the Makuta Avatar :P

I originally planned on making Makuta from a Daemon Prince, as seen here (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/Concepts/daemonmakuta.jpg). Rules-wise, this would play as an Avatar.

I decided that this "plays as an Avatar" might be an object of contention with people who are particular ********. So I figured I should use the Avatar model and go for a less twisted, bestial look and more of a humanoid one. Hence this (http://www.maj.com/gallery/Gukko/random/Warhammer/Eldar/Concepts/makuta.jpg) quick Photoshop. I'd really appreciate if anyone could give ideas as to how to make it more Makuta-like. I may have him clutching a shadow kraata in his left hand, but I'd like more. I'm still fond of the original Rahkshi-skull idea, and I'd like to work the rusty infected look in somewhere. Not sure yet if the whole thing should be infected... actually, probably the hand holding the kraata. The hand is usually depicted as dripping blood, but I think a spreading infection would get the point across.

What version of the mask should I sculpt? Should he have a kraata in his hand, or just a few on the base? Set colors, movie colors, or infected? Should I cover most of the intricate Eldar armor with greenstuffed armor? If so, based off the set or the movie?

But yeah. If you want, by all means please take the image and draw on it in Paint or PS or what have you. Here's reference pictures for advice:

Set Makuta. (http://www.bzpower.com/Imaging/stories/makuta.jpg)
Movie Makuta. (http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Crystal-Matrix/Bionicle2/makuta.jpg)

20-06-2007, 13:41
I think your Kraata in hand idea is a good one. I also really like the Makuta Stone idea, although, instead of putting it one the loincloth, why not sculpt one for the base? You could also work out the Rahkshi skull that way. Maybe group them together into a little tribute to Makuta, almost like a micro alter? Maybe include an Infected Mask, a Makuta Stone, a Rahkshi skull, and maybe another low level Kratta. I tried to think of something else, but I'm drawing a blank. Edit: I thought of something else to add to the alter. Add a zamor filled with Anti-dermis.

As far as how to paint and mod Makuta himself, I think all the super detailed armor has got to go, even is it is just smoothed out and left at that. I guess the spiky bits could stay, as long as the armor is enlarged around it. In the end, keep in mind, Makuta is wearing the larger equivalent of Nuva armor. As far as paint, I'd go with graphite armor, and bits of rust and green infection. The mask could stay black, but I'd change it to be more like the movie.

Remeber, if you don't like Makuta as he's shown in the movie, just change him to be more to your liking.


23-06-2007, 01:01
As far as paint, I'd go with graphite armor, and bits of rust and green infection.
Yeah - I think graphite armor with slight rust and a dark green wash would look nice. As for the little altar, I may do that if I can't fit enough onto Makuta himself. I sort of envision the Eldar crafting their Avatar as its own altar to Makuta.

I started painting the Gukko - you can't see the shading too well in the picture, but I tried making the Vermin Brown with a very simple gradient.


I should have them finished tonight or tomorrow, depending on what comes up. I might have to deliver my Beastmen commission, and my brother wants to have a battle.

EDIT: Other progress includes more greenstuff on the weapon platforms (thickened around the guitar-wire arms), greenstuff on the kneeling Guardians, and 3 Howling Banshees and 2 Fire Dragons primed. None of that is photoworthy, though.

23-06-2007, 14:03
Love the brown on those Gukko, it goes very well with the grey, too.:)

Son of Makuta
23-06-2007, 21:42

I'd say go with the Makuta from the set, definitely, especially as far as the head is concerned. Some considerable resculpting of the Avatar's armour would probably be needed (the Daemon Prince armour is too organic IMO).

Not sure about the Kraata in hand. It's not a bad idea, but I think you could do him in a better combat pose without it?

25-06-2007, 15:56
Awesome looking jetbikes, very nice color. The blending is good stuff, even on my crap work comp :P

- Salvage

26-06-2007, 02:21
Not sure about the Kraata in hand. It's not a bad idea, but I think you could do him in a better combat pose without it?
Dunno, I can fool with the pose when I buy an Avatar.

Gukko done! Finally! Plus Pekel!




Also, new models:


I was originally going to have them be Bohrok, but now I'm not so sure... my brother pointed out that they'd make great Rahkshi. And it's true, they look much more like Rahkshi than like Bohrok. But I think Wraithsight suits the Bohrok more, since they're brainless and need to be ordered around. Opinions?

EDIT: Forgot to mention that they came on the 40mm bases. 25mm is standard, but seems like it'd be way too small. Should I switch them? If plastic Wraithguard ever do come out, they'll probably be on 40 (like the Terminator switch). And I won't wont to rebase these guys. But that's so far off.... decisions, decisions.

26-06-2007, 13:11
You are going to resculpt ove rthe existing heads to make them more recognizable? Because, if you are, they look like they could go either way right now. The head lends itself to both. However, they do look more like overly tall Bohrok than Rahkshi. Look at the shoulders, and the feet. Bohrok. I would save the Rahkshi for later.


26-06-2007, 16:32
Ahh, check those bikes! Such vibrant colors, really fantastic result. Dig the self-potrait biker ;)

I can't help on the Bionicle side of things, but keep the 40mm on the wraithlord. 25mm just looks bad IMO, and 40mm will let you show off your basing skills (which are up there!). Excited regardless.

- Salvage

Son of Makuta
27-06-2007, 10:48
Some quick bullet points:

- Gukko = Class
- Wraithguard = Bohrok *Kal*
- 40mm bases
- Rahkshi = Striking Scorpions maybe?
- Where's the Avatar? :P

27-06-2007, 15:58
Looking good - I like the jetbike - I think they are going to do something similar with the new jetbike - so should fit in well...;)

01-07-2007, 10:48
Ahhh, the old Bionicles. You've done a great job on them, and I'm looking forward to seeing more!

05-07-2007, 08:32
Timedude, they will be sculpted onto. And I have decided that, as originally planned, they will be Bohrok.

Boss_Salvage, I'll keep the 40mm. Thanks for the advice and compliments!

Son of Makuta,
- Thank you.
- Bohrok-Kal would be great for Wraithlord - these guys aren't powerful enough to do the Kal justice. Plus I don't want more silver than I need to have. :p
- Indeed
- I think Rahkshi will be Dark Reapers, and Striking Scorpions will be infected Matoran.
- No Avatar until I have the time/money to get one. Or one appears dirt cheap on ebay. Or someone mails me one for free!

My girlfriend just had surgery and is undergoing a painful recovery, so needless to say painting minis hasn't been my top priority. But I did get a bit done. I added magnets to every single vehicle in my Eldar army, my brother's Space Marine army, and the Dark Eldar army we share. Then I made magnetized smoke to represent shaken / stunned vehicles. Magnetic flames will soon follow to show immobilized or destroyed vehicles. Mounting magnets on the War Walkers was tough - I had to drill holes in the backs, then stick in the magnets and greenstuff over.


The smoke will get a bit of black spray to make it look less like clean steam.

05-07-2007, 12:16
Sorry to hear about the GF. Looking good though, I like the conversions on those Walkers and the magnetized smoke is a great idea.:)

L' aéronautique d' Eldar
05-07-2007, 14:11
hope your GF has a full and speedy recovery
on the side note, very nice bikes!! I WANT!! I WANT!!!

07-07-2007, 12:02
I decided not to sculpt the eyes and fangs on the Wraithguard, since inevitably some would be sloppy and the wrong sizes. So instead I clipped off the bottoms of Guardian antennae and trimmed them to the proper sizes. Then I had to cut the gems off the heads, shave them down, and smooth is out with greenstuff. Very tedious job. Plus it doesn't show well in the photos, though paint will definitely bring them out.


Here's what the faces are based off of:


I also put a destroyed Wraithguard on one of the War Walker bases. It will be painted blue. Any Bionicle fans get this reference? You can't tell in the picture, but the Wraithguard head is connected by guitar string.


Lastly, I completed the Genestealer Hybrid Farseer. This is so that I can ally my two armies (Tyranids and Eldar) during Apocalypse games.


L' aéronautique d' Eldar
07-07-2007, 15:38
Lastly, I completed the Genestealer Hybrid Farseer. This is so that I can ally my two armies (Tyranids and Eldar) during Apocalypse games.


Pekel, i love most of your work so far... no offence but imo ^^^that^^^ is just wrong :cries:

09-07-2007, 13:09
Umm.. I'm gonna guess the reference, cause I'm not sure, but isn't it Gahlok they used to make the first Boxor? Sounds about right.

Anyway, about the Bohrok/wraithguard. I think you should sand or trim down the eyes so they are less of round blobs and more angular, pointed eyes. It would fit better. Other than that, I can't wit to see everything painted, especially the cultist/farseer.


10-07-2007, 03:28
L' aéronautique d' Eldar, what's wrong with the Farseer?

Timedude, you're right about the first Boxor - Nuparu made it from a destroyed Gahlok. So I guess Nuparu will be piloting the one with the Wraithguard base.

A bit of progress, just slapping on some colors. I'm in Washington now, though, and I get home the 22nd. So no updates until then.


The Laughing God
10-07-2007, 03:39
The wraith guard look cool, they all come together even thought they're painted in different schemes.

I have been following this log and have to say that it's great! ;) I love all the conversion work that you have done!

-The Laughing God-

10-07-2007, 12:36
Oh, whoops, my bad. I mistook the peices you sculpted for the teeth to be the eyes. They look very distictivly Bohrok, even wih just a little paint. Can't wait to see them finished. Keep up the great work! Can't wait!


10-07-2007, 15:05
Hope your girl is recovering nicely, and thanks for all of the great pics. The wraithguard look quite good as a unit, loads of bright colors (and some familiar schemes, even to a guy vaguely familiar with Bionicle).

- Salvage

11-07-2007, 06:51
I like the idea , looks cool.
I love your bases too!

11-07-2007, 08:46
Nice bold vivid vibrant colours!!! The array of colours are simply stunning and refreshing from the generic Eldar.

However, care not to stray away from Eldar. Craftworld Eldar are supposed to have an element of Grace, Elegance and Seriousness to them. Maybe these are Exodite Eldar and i must honestly say this is the best Exodite Eldar i've ever seen...
I really love the playful exploit of colours though, it's so cool and artistic.

Btw, what theme is the army? I feel one of the Wraithlords best part is the tall streamlin head, by cutting it off it's such a waste IMO. The base is simply sooooooooooooooooooooooo nice.

Well, it's simply stunning and exotic.

11-07-2007, 10:11
The theme, as should be obvious by the Bionicle images not far up is, well, Bionicles...

18-07-2007, 03:11
Thanks for the encouragement, everyone. And thanks to sanctusmortis for helping out.

I'm still in Washington state, so no new painting. I'm doing field work with the Lummi Indians, so when I get home I'll be glad to paint and recover from my mosquito bites, sore muscles, and thorn slices. Until then, though, just planning.

Which brings me to this: does anyone know any good 10"-12" Evangelion or similar model/toy which, with extensive conversion, could pass as a Revenant Titan? My brother's making a Warhound, and I need some firepower for Apocalypse! I'm also planning making a Trygon from an old Snake Alien toy.

18-07-2007, 12:53
Hey, I was reading Bionicle Ignition comic #9, and I got a good idea on what to do for Makuta. Ditch the whole MoL Makuta look, and make him Maxilos instead! Maxilos is actually bieng controled by Makuta, since he doesn't have a body, so it would fit perfect. Maxilos is a robot, too. I'd give another reason, but I don't want to spoil the surprise.

If you want a good pic, I'd go to the Bionicle website.

Just an idea.


18-07-2007, 13:40
*Bows* I'm one of the few people who can sound mildly sarcastic on here...

The biggest issue with doing a revenant is the blimming size. Hmmm... it's a toughie. I'll have a look around all the manga sites I've got bookmarked for my Tau ideas, see if anything pops out.

18-07-2007, 23:57
A friend gave me advice, and now I've got this coming in the mail:


Here's a smaller version, but same overall look:


I need solutions for head, vanes, and shoulder thrusters. I believe the model itself is 12" tall. I hope that the pulse laser from the Falcon is a decent size for the forearms. I'll have a Photoshopped image soon.

Timedude, I'm trying to stay with the 2000-2003 storyline. That is a good idea, though (and I can't wait to see that comic when I get home!).



Not sure about the vines - probably won't be there. I plan on having a lot of designs and writing, borrowing some inspiration from the awesome Giger-like Revenant by YellowOne on CMON.

Also, if you have any spare pulse lasers from your Fire Prism models, PLEASE PM me. I need one or two before I can finish this.

19-07-2007, 01:20
Looks like a very viable solution Pekel. Looking forward to seeing it under way.

24-07-2007, 14:35
Revenant Titan parts should be arriving within a week or so. Still looking for another pulse laser!

Slapped a bit of paint on the Genestealer Farseer to see how the flesh would look. Also decided to play him as Elrad Ulthran in my armies - obviously not the same character, but a psyker grossly mutated with a greatly amplified psychic potential who would fit the rules. He'll get the standard Craftworld scheme (tan with vines).


What do you think? I'll try to finish him tonight, though I don't know when I'll be home.

24-07-2007, 14:48
Nice work on that Farseer-Genestealer-Hybrid-thingey. Love the idea and conversion and painting so far. The green and flesh in particular look very good.
The eyes are cool, really mean glint in it.:D

24-07-2007, 16:09
You know with all the cloning that Eldrad has undergone, it would make sense if MORE of his clones were messed up gribbly-looking ones like this lad :D:D

The skin looks great, and the head spike thing looks quite groovy.

- Salvage

25-07-2007, 03:41
Thanks for the comments - no more painting done today, though. The Evangelion model arrive from Japan!

I first want to say that this model was a joy to put together. If you're making a Revenant Titan and don't mind doing a lot of conversion work and having it be a bit too small, I highly recommend these kits. Now a picture (with quickly-Photoshopped bits to make it more Titan-ish).


So yeah. I just wanted to get a sense of size. It still needs hip armor, crotch armor, shoulder armor, and shoulder jump packs. But I'm pretty happy with the way it's looking.

26-07-2007, 22:56
Nice titan
: D

28-07-2007, 20:21
Genestealer Farseer. I do feel sort of cheap posting the same model in both my Eldar and Tyranid logs, but it's an overlap model. Since it's basically done (just a bit of neatening up), from here on it'll be all pure Eldar.

Group photo (WIP):


Final front:


Final rear:


Just needs a bit more paint on some places where the black's still showing through. Also: should I paint green vine designs on the tan? The Guardians and tanks all have it, but I think it'd make this guy look cluttered...

Kasrkin 666
28-07-2007, 20:57
Love the freehanding. And the Exo-Toa:p


28-07-2007, 22:09
After finishing the Farseer I tacked some bits onto the Revenant Titan. I found a plastic takeout tray which will work well in place of plasticard (because I have none), but its rigidity is making the curvature of the hooves really annoying (hence rubberbands on the feet).

The green gun-thing is a placeholder. I need to find some cheap plastic brushes with handles that have the unique Eldar curvature.


29-07-2007, 06:13
That looks really cool, and graceful, very eldar, what's it from

29-07-2007, 11:39
It's EVA-00 from Neon Genesis Evangelion. At least, I think I've got the designation right...

I'm more shocked it's big enough, to be honest. I didn't know they did the Evas that big!

30-07-2007, 01:49
sanctusmortis, you're correct. According to the box it's a HG (High Grade, I think) EVA-00 Prototype.

Assembled 10 more Guardians and put hooves on all of the platforms. I'll probably add greenstuff to them to make them rounder.


I started painting the Falcon. In retrospect I thought the Bleached Bone on the Wave Serpent was too patcy, so I drybrushed it a bit more (still not enough, ergh). I also plan on adding more detail to the Wave Serpent, so I'm basically doing them together now. The Falcon will have a picture of the Kini Nui temple where the Wave Serpent has the Mata Nui island, and will have the halves of the Makoki stone where the Serpent has the Makuta and Mata Nui stones.


EDIT: Reminder to myself: Banshee Exarch needs triskele changed to an executioner and Spider Exarch needs power blades.

30-07-2007, 02:01
Nice work. I like the titan substitute, and the markings on your tank are pretty sweet

30-07-2007, 16:29
Nice pick with that EVA figure, should work out awesome. We actually had a game with a FW revenant this weekend, but it did very very little because it was being stunned / shaken every turn from sucking so much fire ...

Still a fan of your little crab platforms, the guardians look very nice crowded about them.

- Salvage

30-07-2007, 18:54
Added some Eldar bitz and card armor. I'm going to have to add greenstuff over the card to smooth it, bulk it, and reinforce it. I did that on a Beastmen banner once, and it was NOT fun or easy. I wish there was some magically smooth, flexible and resilient material... :(


Note that the things on the arms are just slapped on. Once I work the guns out they'll be pinned in the appropriate position.

EDIT: Still stumped as to what to use for the jump pack. Anyone have any suggestions?

30-07-2007, 20:09
Could you possibly start from a base of, say, a fex's backplate? The spore chimney one, maybe...

30-07-2007, 21:31
Just found this thread via your sig (i read the whole thread) and i have to say '*********** AWESOME'

i personally hate bionicles (did like them when i was like 10- im now 16)

but the theme + paint job + conversion work is of the chart awesome.

very very good work. i salute you for your patience aswell.

02-08-2007, 07:55
Could you possibly start from a base of, say, a fex's backplate? The spore chimney one, maybe...
That's a great idea, but (being the stingy person that I am) I magnetized my Carnifex so that all of the plates are being used. I tore off the card - everywhere it was used - and am finding alternatives. The greenstuff work just looked too overwhelming.

W0lf, glad you're enjoying the log despite your newfound hatred of Bionicle. I count myself among the luckiest of men because I have friends (including a girlfriend) who are completely cool with my odd little hobbies. The fact that I can flaunt the money I make dealing Bionicle merchandise and doing commission painting doesn't hurt either! If it pays for the movie and dinner, it's more than welcome. :D

More Titan work! I've also assembled 5 more Guardians, who I'll photograph eventually. I tried having some more fun with them. One's tossing a grenade, one's just dropped his gun and is about to fall over due to the bloody holes in his chest armor, and another has a neat slice in the armor. The rest will probably be more bog-standard boring Guardians.

But yes... the Titan. I got sick of looking for brushes and decided to stick two Bright Lances together. With a bit of greenstuff melding it should work. Some of the Eldar Titan guns do swell towards the middle, though I was personally never fond of that. Oh well.


After looking everywhere for appropriate fin pieces, the answer came to me while rooting though a drawer in the kitchen. Plastic forks!


And the shoulder jetpacks will probably be made from Lego pieces. Quite fitting.


I also decided that I'll sculpt the head to resemble the standard Revenant Titan instead of a Bionicle mask. I'll paint the mask designs around the head or sculpt a tiny mask in the forehead so that the idea still gets across.

03-08-2007, 03:24
i love the theme for the army. Im also getting alot of insparation and i wouldnt mind picking up an EVA model myself ive beeen trying to work on a warlock titan. anyone know how tall it should be?
Keep up the awesome work.

06-08-2007, 06:54
Someone in the forum has a topic with a picture of a Warlock for Armorcast - it's twice the size of a Warhound, he said.

A teeny bit more Titan stuff. I've been keeping really busy with real-life stuff. Though I did remember to grab 6 sporks from Taco Bell to use on the Titan!


I'll probably end up ordering metal Guardian Jetbike armor for the shoulders. Shame, as I didn't want to spend any more money on this model...

06-08-2007, 07:40
Someone in the forum has a topic with a picture of a Warlock for Armorcast - it's twice the size of a Warhound, he said.

A teeny bit more Titan stuff. I've been keeping really busy with real-life stuff. Though I did remember to grab 6 sporks from Taco Bell to use on the Titan!


I'll probably end up ordering metal Guardian Jetbike armor for the shoulders. Shame, as I didn't want to spend any more money on this model...

How dare you desecrate a $27 EVA model like that!....

06-08-2007, 07:47
Someone in the forum has a topic with a picture of a Warlock for Armorcast - it's twice the size of a Warhound, he said.

A teeny bit more Titan stuff. I've been keeping really busy with real-life stuff. Though I did remember to grab 6 sporks from Taco Bell to use on the Titan!

ROFL. Taco Bell sporks. Pure genius, Pekel.

06-08-2007, 14:37
Nice idea for convetring a Reaver titan. Can't wait to see it finished.

Oh and almost forgot, I like all the other stuff you got on here.

06-08-2007, 14:51
Absolutely love how the titan is looking. Excellent work there Pekel!

21-08-2007, 03:29
Is this thread dead? If it is that's a shame i wanted to see how evrything turned out oh well

23-08-2007, 18:05
Thanks for the interest - this thread isn't dead at all! I went to work at a pre-orientation program at my college for incoming freshmen, then my girlfriend's been staying with me for the past week. The weekend after this one my family is driving up with the rest of my college things and my bike - this includes all of my Warhammer stuff. At the moment I have all of my paints and tools, but no models.

I'm itching to paint again, so don't worry. I'll keep working when the stuff arrives. In the meantime, your encouragement is appreciated!

31-08-2007, 10:38
How is the titan going? Have the sporks been attached yet?

04-09-2007, 19:07
i'm still trying to work out whether this is cool or completely tragic. looks like a cross between the two.

sorry if that sounds rude

06-09-2007, 19:15
No work done on Titan, as I'm painting the Wraithguard. Two are essentially finished. But my camera battery died, and the charger is lost, so no photos. I just ordered a new one, so you'll have pictures when that arrives.

blood_red_sandman, no offense taken. I'm the guy making the army and I'm still trying to make up my mind myself. :D

Son of Makuta
06-09-2007, 20:52
Now. Considering that Revenants are gonna be insane in Apocalypse. I'm thinking of getting an Evangelion myself... not that I've ever seen Evangelion, unfortunately...

In case you want any, I've written rules for Toa, themed towards an eldar army! They're in the attachment here.

09-09-2007, 22:35
Interesting rules. Would be fun to playtest them someday (I especially like the Kaukau).


I know, not much new... But it feels like I did a lot more. And I definitely did on the Tyranids! :p

12-09-2007, 15:04
Now those look cool! Excellent squad together, but each one is fantastic - I think my vote for fav goes to the White One, though Green and Blue are rock solid too.

What's up next? Titan??

- Salvage

12-09-2007, 15:36
What makes the unit so awesome to me is that though each has a different colour scheme, they are all tied together by the bases and the theme. That's very unique. Love them!

18-09-2007, 18:37
Glad to hear that the unit works well together... it's one of the more colorful ones.

I'm putting the Titan on hold, as I want to paint now. Eventually I'll get out the greenstuff, and when I do I'll work on the Titan head and the Warlocks.

Right now I have primed and based 4 Howling Banshees, 2 Swooping Hawks, 2 Fire Dragons, 2 Dire Avengers, and a War Walker. I want to get the other two War Walkers primed and based before I do too much painting, but before I can do that I need to make a replica of this stone with writing:


I had a copy at home, but it got lost on the way to college apparently (or is it still home?). Anyway, it's a little joke from the old online game and it will be put on one of the War Walker bases.

19-09-2007, 04:08
Fine, I lied! Here's some Titan progress:


I was reading the Revenant's Datasheet and the old how-to-mount-missiles question came back. So I pulled out bits and fiddled. Then the head was right there... to I added another layer of greenstuff. I'm going to sand and clip it after it dries, making it smoother and the edges around the face sharper. Still needs another layer to make the face deeper and the forehead a bit more pronounced. Then the eyes, gems, and rounded things in the ear-indentations.

But you can see the primed Eldar up behind the titan. 10 Guardians were primed today, and I even slapped a bit of blue on the Banshees!

19-09-2007, 15:04
Still so cool that you're using an eva as the base for the titan :D

Keep up the good work, Pekel.

- Salvage

23-09-2007, 11:27
I want to get the other two War Walkers primed and based before I do too much painting, but before I can do that I need to make a replica of this stone with writing:


I had a copy at home, but it got lost on the way to college apparently (or is it still home?). Anyway, it's a little joke from the old online game and it will be put on one of the War Walker bases.

Would you mind giving the a translation? My Mata-Nui is a little rusty. The only word I could make out was 'to'. So, yeah.

Oh, hey, did you ever finish those objective markers? The Mata Nui stone and the Nid egg?


26-09-2007, 02:31
No updates on the Titan, as I'm using my little remaining greenstuff on my Tyranid Carnifex conversion. But I did a lot of painting last night, and now have a Swooping Hawk,two Fire Dragons, and four Howling Banshees in various stages. No photos yet, because they should be in much better shape after one more painting session, but just know that stuff is getting done. Expect WIP photos tomorrow, most likely. Progress drepends on how well I want to do on my Animal Behavior exam on Thursday. :)

Timedude: Objective markers? Don't recall mentioning those, though if you say so then I probably did. The stone reads "My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock."

Don't expect any comments, since I didn't really post any content, but I'll be back!

26-09-2007, 21:14
Okay, the paint!


I accidentally used flash, and the colors were actually more true to life. There's some loss of contrast (look at the darker blue and the yellow), but it's still good. I need a dark blue for all of the black armor on the Banshees, so work on them is stopped until I get that. Same goes for all the brown parts (cloth and hair). Need to decide on colors for the last Swooping Hawk. I may have enough brown left to do the brown parts after basing some more Tyranids, and if I do I might as well go ahead and do all the cloth.

But for the most part, these models are sitting aside until I get new paints with commission money. Next up for Eldar, I need to prime the remaining two War Walkers and get them painted (finally!). One is missing a Shuriken Cannon after the transit to college, though, so I hope I can find that...

EDIT: Just wanted to say that I LOVE the old Banshee sculpts. Much, much better than the new ones in my opinion.

Dark Apostle
27-09-2007, 07:30
Sweet blue colour on the banshees - they look like they are electric! Really nice!

14-10-2007, 16:58
Dark Apostle, thanks. Compliments mean a lot coming from someone like you. Though now that I look back on that picture, the blue actually is off. It's too electric. Sorry if that's a disappointment - when they're all done I'll post a more correct picture. :P

I still haven't picked up the paints I need to finish the Wraithguard and those models in my last post, but I'm home for the weekend and picked up the bitz needed to assemble the last Guardians. Also found the missing War Walker Shuriken Cannon so I can FINALLY prime and paint those guys. Plus I've done more work on the Warlock council - started on all of the staffs and sculpting of two masks.

Sorry for no photos, but work on my Tyranids is slowing down a bit and I should be able to do some Eldar now.

The big question: can I work up the courage to start working on the almost ALL TAN Guardians? Of which I'll have 30?

15-10-2007, 12:40
Ah, the horror! How can you stand to paint 30 figures the same color! How boring...

I'm speaking from experience this time. About three weeks ago I bought a box of Kroots to try out the miniature hobby. Had allot of fun assembling them. However, after painting about 8 miniatures with an identical color scheme, I realized it was starting to look a little boring, to me at least (it could just be the color scheme, though: light Grey skin, dark Grey scales and quills, brown cloth, mitheral weapons/armor). So, I painted one other differently, and so did my brother. It makes some variety, but it also makes them look really disconnected.

I got lucky, though. The place where I bought them was selling all his kit half price. I'm going back when I can. He had a box of genestealers and dark eldar too...


15-10-2007, 13:50
Im never mind make one army for 40k based in matorans ,but now...
Im a fan of bionicles,especialy the old ones,and im happy sing matorans and exo toas in battleground.
For scenario is good use the things of the box of old ones,of 2001 edition :)

Son of Makuta
22-10-2007, 13:06
Ooh that blue Wraithguard and the Banshee are peachy...

Still no Makuta?? :P

24-10-2007, 07:27
Timedude: Having them all the same color scheme will be boring, but it'll also mean that eventually I can field a (boring-looking) pure Craftworld army. When the new Jetbikes are released I'm going to buy a box and convert my current ones into Shining Spears, then paint the new ones in the tan/vines scheme. Then in that scheme I'll have 30 Guardians, two tanks, a Revenant Titan, and Jetbikes. Having all that tan will make the really themed units stick out more, which is the goal. Also: go for the Genestealers! :skull:

Maracna, glad you like the theme. I will be using more old 2001 parts for scenery. When I make the Phoenix Lords, for example (I'll get to it eventually!) they'll all be standing on a statue of the mask of the corresponding Toa. i.e. Fuegan will be on a Hau, etc.

Son of Makuta: I'm buried in stuff to do, but I still reeeaaally want to eventually make a Makuta model. Hang in there. ;)

Here's the tiny bit I have done on the Turaga. Basically just proof that I do have them.


The clear plastic was cut from the top of a Pringles can and will serve as the base for the staff heads. They'll all get greenstuff sculpting up there, hopefully sooner rather than later. They look so terrible now, it'll be nice to see the unit when it's finished.

And here's two reposed Guardians:


One on the left is throwing a grenade. The photo really does a poor job of capturing the motion, as I love how it came out. The one on the right has a bullet hole in his armor and will be staring at his bloody hand in a daze as he swoons. I did this to show that the Guardians really aren't warriors - this guy is on the verge of passing out due to the shock alone.

Crappy update, I know. Midterms are almost over, and then I can go back to sculpting.

24-10-2007, 15:03
I like the tear on the helmet of the swooning guy. Just makes the effect all the better :D

Battle through those midterms, we need more bionicle eldar ;)

- Salvage

25-10-2007, 19:47
Thanks, Boss. I put the tear-head on purpose. :)

Started the first test Guardian. Still needs better black application, eyes, brown cloth, and some vines. What do you think of the skull-design on the helmets? I blatantly stole it from Metal-Fingered Villain, so all kudos go to him for the idea.


I can't do the eyes, cloth, and vines until I get new paints. So I'll just have to churn out a lot of tan basecoats.

27-10-2007, 12:20
Hmm.. I like the color scheme more than I thought I would. Must be the highlights, something I am still to inept to do on mine. But, I'm getting better. One question, though: Where are the vines?

Oh, and seeing those pics reminded me of something: I used your basing method for one of my minis. Much better than sand/gravel stuff. If I hadn't already super glued the rest of my bases, I would re-base them all. Very cool looking when done right...

I guess I'm just addicted to variety. More strange variants are better. When They're all painted, I'll host some pics somewhere so you can see. After all, you really helped to motivate me to get in on the hobby..


31-10-2007, 15:37
I think I have like five of those 7-inch tall EVA toys from when I was into anime. Too bad I don't play Eldar, a mob of Scout Titans would be fantastic.

31-10-2007, 21:48
could you please post the exact data of the Evangelion model you used as a Titan? I made some search with EVA-00 etc., but couldn't find a model of that size.

Thanks a lot in advance!


02-11-2007, 00:44
One question, though: Where are the vines?
It says in the post that it "Still needs better black application, eyes, brown cloth, and some vines". Definitely look forward to seeing your models, and hope you're enjoying the hobby! :D

GildorInglorion, luckily I still have the box. It says "Eva-00 Prototype," "LM Limited Model HG" and "Series 003" in various places. Made by Bandai. "HG" stands for "High Grade". Good luck finding one!

I started painting the bases of the Guardians. To be honest I'm really not doing much at all. I've got lots of real-life stuff to keep me busy, sad as that may be...

09-11-2007, 02:40
Finally! I posted the first pictures of these on January 17 and over the past fex days I've worked on and off on them. I just need to find a Sharpie to write the names on the bases and to paint the pilots.

The machines were originally made from the parts of fallen Bohrok (what I'm using as Wraithguard). So I put a fallen Wraithguard on the base. Bionicle fans should get the reference.


Second has the stone slab from the old online game, which most old fans look back on with a heavy dose of nostalgia. It reads, as said earlier in the topic, "My friend went to Po-Wahi and all I got was this lousy rock."


Last one showcases the punching action that the toy has (here you can see the left arm slightly extended (http://www.cpbricks-info.de/8556.jpg)).


The Warlocks to accompany the Farseer are finally almost done. Just another greenstuff session and basing, and they should be all set. I can't wait to see this unit all together, since they're really the core of the army. All the leaders in one place.

I'd love to get opinions on these War Walkers, especially from people who haven't been in the topic before. I still can't wait to play a stranger and watch as they try to figure what the hell is going on with my army. :D

09-11-2007, 11:09
Those walkers rock! Probably my favorite unit of you so far, I like the dynamic poses and the bases are fantastic.

09-11-2007, 14:46
Sorry i'm one who already posted and like i said amazing models. Those walkers are amazing. im just wondering how the legs are in place its a cool conversion and your doing an amazing job (i wish i could GS like that...) Keep up the amazing job (More posts!)


10-11-2007, 21:22
Glad you like the Walkers! Malant: The legs are pinned where the legs normally connect. Nothing fancy!

First finished Warlock and the 4 still WIP: