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24-06-2009, 16:10
@dwarfhold13: Good point about the red and the brown looking very similar. The brown I currently use for basing everything brown really is Vallejo Model Colour Chocolate Brown. For the highlights, I tend to vary but usually, it's mixes of chocolate Brown, VMC Khaki Grey, Bleached Bone VMC Sand Yellow and similar stuff.

@Gargobot: Thanks, but you still put a dent in my confidence in this shield thing on his shoulder. ;)

@Elfboy: Thanks for the suggestion, that's a very valid point. I'll definately do something about that.

24-06-2009, 18:44
I love it. Little 's' shield, big 's' shield ... all of it.
It is supposed to be self obsessed ... thats the point. :D

Maybe the 's' it self is a bit chunky on the big shield and could be finer? But it is fine as it is.

It will not be so 'samey' against the squirel ones you have done his little waste coat and cream tummy and face. :D

Intrepid Adventurer
24-06-2009, 20:59
Hey Sigur, awesome stuff. That last Knight is amazing, simply gorgeous.

I'm wondering what mixes you used for those LotR Elven captains. Especially the mail and and underrobes I'm wondering about. Would you reveal your secret to a newbie?

24-06-2009, 21:34
@Harry: Gee, you're really set on that waistcoat and bell thing, eh? :p

@Intrepid Adventurer: Hi and thanks. ;) I started painting the LotR captains more than one and a half years ago so I'm not sure but I guess the underrobes are based on mixes of Vallejo Model Colour Hull Red (looks a bit like a mix of scorched brown and red gore, possibly a tad darker), Tanned Flesh and bleached bone with a little wash (devlan mud or something that looks the same) in the deepest recesses.

The mail was basecoated with Vallejo Model Colour Brassy Brass, drybrushed with a mix of brassy brass and chainmail or mithril silver, possibly a little drybrush with gold too in there. then a wash with flesh wash, some more drybrushing, some more washing or even proper shading in the deeper recesses and so on up until pure mithril silver for the most elevated places. Hope that was of help.

24-06-2009, 22:39
I love all your work! Especially that knight, he is really cool!

28-06-2009, 23:17
@bob_the_small: Thank you very much. Hope you like the future stuff too. :)

Right, back to Warmaster. It's mushroom-spider-gobbo-time!

Night Goblins, as good as finished.


Forest Goblins, just the main colours done yet.


There's quite a lot of more Goblin stuff coming up. After these two unites are done, it's .... oh, wait, I just thought of a better way to put it. Alright, so...*clears throat* ..."so as for what is coming up next for this goblin army...one could say that my SPIDER sense is tingeling." Eh? Eh? Geddit? :cheese:

Anyway, a unit of chaos chariots also slipped in:


Alrighty, no news in terms of the knight (sorry). Maybe next time. Anyway, please leave your comments and critique so I get supermotivated to paint much more stuff to post here. Thanks and byeeeee!

29-06-2009, 00:19
Wow, those Night Goblins are looking great!

29-06-2009, 13:51
The Bretonnian dude is coming along very well! Great work on the gold-esque details.

Congrats on getting another commission too, the goblins and chaos guys are looking excellent so far. Nice clean colours, excellent detailing.

30-06-2009, 07:51
@mrtn: Thanks :)

@McMullet: Cheers buddy.

Just a small update for you guys. Been painting quite a bit, trying to get this bunch of little guys done.

Right, we've seen the chariots (which are finished now) and the Night Goblins. Here's the finished Forest Goblins:


...and the Spider Riders (not finished yet but I think that I'm proceeding well):



Hope you like everything, see you soon!

30-06-2009, 12:52
It's incredible how you manage to paint this tiny minis to such a high standard, especially the Squigs are breathtaking - I couldn't even paint a normal sized Squig that well. :cries:
Keep it up!

30-06-2009, 20:06
@Gargobot:Thanks very much. Painting Warmaster minis is pretty easy because you nowhere have to blend colours as smoothly as on 28mm scale minis. It's pretty quick and dirty actually. :p

Righty, Spiderriders are finished:



Sorry about the possibly bad picture quality the screen of my desktop PC is getting really really old now and it's incredibly blurry so the pictures might be a little overly sharp.

Anyway, what do you think, Sirs? I will add some static grass to the bases in the end. Green grass for the Gobbos, "dead"/straw-y grass for the chaos dudes.

C&C welcome as always!

30-06-2009, 20:44
nice warmaster models! Wow they sure look cool.. damnit.. i want to play warmaster too now.

Crazy Harborc
01-07-2009, 02:20
I did not know that the Warmaster minies would paint up sooo well. I tried to paint 15mm minies a while back.....Um, my eyes rebelled.

Great to look at here.

01-07-2009, 08:07
It's incredible how you manage to paint this tiny minis to such a high standard, especially the Squigs are breathtaking - I couldn't even paint a normal sized Squig that well. :cries:
Keep it up!
Ditto that... and I thought I was good at squigs... :cries:

09-07-2009, 23:29
Thanks guys. :-)

@Kaos: Go for it! Good luck with finding gaming buddies though. The guy I paint these for assured me that there's about 10 Warmaster players in my country but I don't really believe him.

@Crazy Harborc: In fact it's 10mm. :-P Anyhow, thanks. They are fairly easy to paint as you don't have to give much about proper blending.

Hmm, no news really but my static grass finally arrived today so I finished the minis:






So these are the final photos before I send them off to their journey to their owner. How do you like'em?

10-07-2009, 00:13
Well, you've managed to paint a better freehand banner design on those Chaos chaps that I can do in 28mm. Git. :p

Is the Forest Goblin one part of the model? If it's freehand too I'm just going to cry...

10-07-2009, 10:25
Very nice, I like those totally random greenskin models.

20-07-2009, 18:51
@Catferret: Eventhough it would be an exquisite pleasure to make you cry ( :p ), the iconography is part of the model.

@mrtn: Thanks. It's not my choice, I just paint what I get sent.

Alright you guys, new updates coming up and this time it's

Warmaster Araby

How's that for unique? ;)

20-07-2009, 19:45
Warmaster Araby
Love the bold print. ;)
Well you got me interested, looking forward to this new chapter of Sigur goodness.

22-07-2009, 14:53
Alright you guys, the Araby stuff finally arrived. It's LOTS and has some quirky fun stuff. Here's a little preview of some things:


The guy has to give me some more info about the colourscheme, then real painting can commence. See you soon!

22-07-2009, 18:16
Oh wow! I love the armoured elephant carrying the giant tea pot!

Rolo Ramone
22-07-2009, 21:11
Ufff, what a great log! Iīm starting with warmaster, and thatīs inspiring!

Nephilim of Sin
23-07-2009, 10:44
The Araby Warmaster is going to be great. I already love the Warmaster stuff you have done (too bad it is all for commission, since we now have the 'infants' catagory in the ToFP :), and I know you will do this one justice. So great to have you back in the fantasy side of things again!

23-07-2009, 11:14
I'm very much looking forward to seeing more Araby goodness (and living vicariously through your log - I'd love to have those models, but I couldn't do them justice).

24-07-2009, 00:32
@McMullet: Just wait until you see the giant octopus with a missile launcher on his head!

@Rolo Ramone: Great to hear you're starting Warmaster. Which army are you playing?

@Nephilim of Sin: Hey, nice to hear from you again, Mr.Nephilim. How's things? I'd loved to enter the Araby stuff for the Tale of Fantasy players but I don't plan to stretch the whole commission out to a year. ;)

@EmperorNorton: Hehe, well, I mentioned it several times in this log already; 10mm scale minis are much easier to paint than 28mm scaled ones, eventhough the detail on these WM minis is always a pleasure.

Alright you guys, here's another picture of the miniatures. Again, it's not the full bunch but what is looking like I'd done something on them already:


For those who care, in the picture you can see the way I base Warmaster miniatures which is a bit tricky.

A full list of the units in this batch:

1 unit of Spearmen
1 unit of camel cavlary
1 unit of knights
1 unit of mounted archers
Three war elephants
One general in a teapot mounted on the back of an elephant
A whole bunch of characters which are really really awesome. There's a djinn, a magician, a carpet salesman, a rope trick guy, a thief, ...

So there's lots of fun stuff coming up. The jobs I did so far on these minis are rather scattered around because the guy I'm painting these for took a day or so to reply to my question concerning his preferred colour scheme. The answer was, as most of the times, "paint them as you like, they'll look good" but I still waited for his reply because of what crucial factor? Customer care. There's three words that characterize my commission painting: customer, customer, customer - service, service, service. :cheese:

I thought of using brass, blue and beige a lot in this army, with the mandatory little red details. What do you think of that?

Rolo Ramone
24-07-2009, 14:45
Your miniatures are a a lot much better then those on GW site. Iīm starting with Bretonnia in warmaster.

26-07-2009, 19:46
Wow, sigur! I just looked through the entire log, and I am really impressed. I especially like your Warmaster stuff, and if I did not have so many projects going on myself, I would definitely try an army out.

Now, I just wonder how to convince you to go one step further and change 10mm to 6mm. There is a persistent rumour about squats...


27-07-2009, 00:27
@Rolo Ramone: Thanks muchly. :)

@Fredmans: Thanks lotsly. :D Make sure you try Warmaster out. I mean, I never read the rules really and there's like 20 players in the entire world but the rulesystem seems to be equally well done as other Specialist Games and the miniatures are very cool. Somehow Warmaster, with all it's foot troops and big formations, feels more down to earth than fancypants Warhammer Fantasy. Concerning the Squats...I'd love to do those but on one hand I only have a handful of Epic Squats (no way enough for an army), no money to buy more epic minis and no Epic players in my area. But I got almost a platoon of Squats coming up in the Tale of 40k Painters if that's of help for you.

Sorry guys, no picture updates for the next week. Parents are on a holiday trip and took the cam away from me.

Work on the Araby army is going quite slowly. I'm not entirely happy with the colourscheme I chose and it's just a load of minis to paint. I'm also painting three units simultanously at the moment which is never a good idea.

So at the moment, the spearmen are finished including some freehand on the banner which was quite nice to do. Shame the rest is all slapping base colour onto a formation of minis, highlight, highlight, shade, and then it's the next colour. Again, I went for too complicated and time-consuming recilpies. Example: skin. It's base colour, highlight, wash, final highlight. And that's for a part of the mini that doesn't cover any more than three square millimeters on the whole mini combined.

Anyhow, maybe I can fix the time issue. I'll keep you updated, good night for now.

29-07-2009, 02:03
Alright, another small update just to show you that I'm proceeding.

Here's the upated to do list for the current Araby batch:

1 unit of Spearmen - done
1 unit of camel cavalry - done
1 unit of knights - based
1 unit of mounted archers - currently WIP, based and horses painted (even in 10mm scale, I don't like painting horses)
Three war elephants - done
One general in a teapot mounted on the back of an elephant - done
A whole bunch of characters which are really really awesome. There's a djinn, a magician, a carpet salesman, a rope trick guy, a thief, ... - not even assembled properly or put on bases.

The infantry (like painting warmaster infantry) and the fancier units were done first, now I'm doing the light and heavy cavalry, then it's all characters and fun stuff. Trying to do as much commission work as possible at the moment but I'm still painfully slow.

Pictures on thursday or friday.

03-08-2009, 01:40
First off, don't shut this thread down mods, pretty please. There will be three postings by me now because I couldn't update in over a week and have many pictures to show off.

So I got my camera back now and this means: Picture update time!


Mounted Archers




General on War Elephant


03-08-2009, 01:43



War Elephants


Magician and Djinn

"Flying" Carpet Salesman


03-08-2009, 01:44
.... (sorry about the multiple posts)



Other characters

Camel Riders

Army Shot

Updated to-do list:

1 unit of Spearmen - done
1 unit of camel cavalry - done
1 unit of knights - done, needs bases finished
1 unit of mounted archers - done
Three war elephants - done
One general in a teapot mounted on the back of an elephant - done
A whole bunch of characters which are really really awesome. There's a djinn, a magician, a carpet salesman, a rope trick guy, a thief, ... - currently WIP, done to 70% I'd say

The characters are all mounted on 1 Penny coins.

Hope you like them! :-)

Crazy Harborc
03-08-2009, 03:32
Saying this with a proper British(but by an American from the midwest) accent........"Ohhhha, did those coins have/contain any noble"s faces?" Then with a nose in the air......"Is that proper?"

I don't care if the army is too darn small for my old eyes to see on the table!! THAT is a great looking army.....May you win many battles.

03-08-2009, 04:56
That's some nice lil freehandy thingies on teh banners. Really liking the blue and gold too.

Nice work skwrrl.

Nephilim of Sin
03-08-2009, 04:57
I don't think you'd ever have to worry about the mods closing this beauty of a log! Besides, multi-posting on our own logs is okay :p.

I have to say, I have no doubt that your customer will be happy with this army. As well, it seems you have managed to do it with remarkable speed! What do you plan on doing with the bases on the knights? Right now, they stand out (albeit unfinished), and quite honestly would probably look really good if the GS work was done as sandstone.

I know that you said some elements were unfinished, but from afar the 'carpet salesman' looks great, yet up close, the gold on the carpet just seems to be...off. Then again, that detail is probably only a mm big, so it may not matter too much :D.

Great work as always, and I love seeing this log is still alive. Keep up the great work!

03-08-2009, 11:14
Great work!

03-08-2009, 12:26
Those war elephants are sooo cool!

03-08-2009, 23:25
I predict 100% customer satisfaction, these are sweet (and painted with remarkable speed)!

04-08-2009, 20:01
Inspiration has been found! I have an Araby army languishing in my basement and you have shamed me into pulling it out and finishing it up!
The Grand Vizier in Elephant is excellent, I love the starry night on the dome.
The rest of the army is your usual high standard for 10mms.
Carry on the good work!

04-08-2009, 20:06
Never got in to Warmaster or Epic for that matter, was afraid if I'ld sneeze and loose half an army. But damn you make it look tempting.

05-08-2009, 08:09
They do look fantastic.
You have inspire me into giving the warhamster a bash myself.
I have 1000 points + of High Elves to have a crack at and it's all your fault. :D

Welf VIII.
05-08-2009, 12:06
I have to agree, you worked wonders on these tiny little miniatures. Would like to see those in real life.

05-08-2009, 13:12
@crazy harborc: Cheerio matey. :p

@catferret: Yah, the freehand things were the most fun thing about painting these. Freehands on 10mm minis are so easy you only have to paint neat and sharp without having to care about blending much.

@Nephilim: Actually the knights bases just look like this because that's how I base WM miniatures. The metal bits on which the minis stand (especially cavlary) are almost 2mm high which is much and makes them look weird if you just use PVA and sand for basing so i try to make it look less odd by using some GS to make the transistion smoother. I'll just slap on sand and that's it. I'm not being paid to do fancy bases.

@jdp: Hooray, make sure you post some pictures when you got something painted. The "stary night" on the roof of the howdah(?) is supposed to resemble an ancient star map due to the real life roots of Araby and to show hoe much they are into astronomy and such. It's cool how the mini doesn't look too war-like so I like to think of it as a mobile command thing with the general and a bunch of foretellers, astrologists, magicians etc. as councellors.

@Melchia: Yus, since I started doing WM stuff I also almost got tempted to get into it.

@Harry: Sure, give it a try. Should be a very cool addition to your already diverse oevre in your log. ;)

@Welf VIII.: Cheers. Take a trip to Austria and look for the only two people in the country who play Warmaster. As they play together you'll probably run across the minis I did. :p

Right-o, everything's painted now, bases still need a bit of finishing touches. Next up: Even more Araby (I presume) and Blood Bowl!

22-08-2009, 11:43
Hey guys, i'm back to Fantasy for a bit. Fantasy Football that is!

Are you ready for some BloodBowl?!

Here's the first WIP shot of the Talabheim Tinglers (working title until the customer decides for a team name):


Nothing much to see yet. I decided for some heavy dusting for the primer because the main colours will be red and white (or light cloth) so I figured a white base would work better. It's been ages since I did dusted/white primed miniatures so let's see how I fare. This is the first time I paint BB miniatures and I'm really looking forward to it because a.) they are all metal and b.) they are all individually posed. A highly welcome change from the Space Marines Battleforce I recently painted (as seen in my Sci-Fi log).

Hope you will follow this thread with interest and I hope that the BloodBowl players amongst you will be able to help me with some hints. :)

Will update soon!

22-08-2009, 13:38
So sigur's log will turn (at least temporarily) into the fourth great Blood Bowl log?
Awesome! :)

22-08-2009, 17:45
he he he ogres are huge compared to humans i cant wait to see these guys painted sigur (i still preffere orks)


The boyz
22-08-2009, 18:52
Nice work on those Warmaster Arabians, they look rather nice. Looking forward to seeing some more progress on those BB chaps.

23-08-2009, 20:33
Sweet, will be interesting to see what you come up with painting those guys.


25-08-2009, 12:24

Here they are. Next step: Some inking on the cloth and armour parts. As for the red, I'm not quite sure which wash I'll use as Baal Red pretty much sucks in my experience. So either Gryphone Sepia, Black or I just do it as I always used to and make a VMC Hull Red Wash.

Hope you like them so far. :)

25-08-2009, 14:40
oh man... oh man! oh man!!!!!
everytime i sit down to paint the 3 armies i'm doing right now, my blood bowl wood elf team is just staring me down from the WIP section of my table... this is all i needed to have the urge to finish them!
geez... thanks sigur

25-08-2009, 15:55
@dwarfhold13: Hehe, no problem. :cheese: Anyway, may I nick the term "WIP area"? Makes the random heap of half-done miniatures in my desk sound a whole lot better. :p

Picture update:


Applied some washes (camera ate all the highlights and shading on the reds away), painted on and started highlihting the darker brown.

I like them a whole lot better now that there's less white on the miniatures. I guess that the heavy dusting wasn't the best of ideas because I obviously don't really know how to make it work for me. I still paint like on black primer and I think that the result would look the same.

Still to do:
Finish darker browns
paint white socks and stripes
paint metallics

25-08-2009, 16:21
we can nick it for sure.. have you seen my plog? i took random pics of my 'piles' and put them up..
team is looking great though.. i need to convert a blood bowl ogre for the plastic humans i got with the box.. i've got three teams, but just need to finish them up..
i also have that same problem with the light washing out figures like my dwarfs.. i used the same method for painting my red and it looks exactly the same.. even with using blood red for highlights

The boyz
25-08-2009, 17:58
Looking good Sigur. I like the red on their armour, looks very well painted.

25-08-2009, 23:53
Whoa, I went through the entire 41 pages of this log (it took me half a day and I haven't read everything - and it's almost 2 am now ! ) and I have to say I love your painting ! You do stuff really well and it's a pleasure to see every picture you show :)

And now I have to start a warmaster araby army too, and buy a few knights, and I like the dark elfs minis, and ... well, I don't have the money, so I will just wish I guess ! (And maybe I should get around painting what I have too.)

But I really like your log, I really do ! :)

26-08-2009, 05:13
I too, have spent the last three hours poring through the pages of your PLOG. It has been over a year since I last picked up a brush, but you have inspired me to finish my Estalian Conquistador army for WFB.

Perhaps I'll even learn how to take photos of them and post them here. I'm pretty proud of them (nowhere near your level though).

Keep it up!


27-08-2009, 10:29
@dwarfhold13: I had a look at your plog. Very cool conversions and painting in there. Have a look at that one, people!

@The boyz: Thanks. I like painting red, it's always a joy. The armour looks better in real life but maybe in another picture...

@Ancre: Hehe, thanks a lot. Hope you got any WM players around your area. :)

@Anvilbrow: Cheers. Sounds like a very cool army idea, make sure you get those photos of your army online soon!

Alright, due to being occupied with celebrating me olde self (birthday), painting was a bit slow the past two days. Picture update would look boring because not much visible has happened. But I can still update my to do list.

Still to do:
Finish darker browns- done, except on the Ogre. Yerch.
paint white socks and stripes - not even begun yet
paint metallics - currently working on that. Boltgun metal, black wash, highlights. Classic.
base - not even begun yet, obviously. Usually, I base miniatures before painting them but as there will only be static grass on the plain bases, no base sculpting or sanding was required and i always do static grass (or snow or stuff like that) last.

Now I'm off to old home for some Dungeons and Dragons-eering and further celebrations. See you guys later.

27-08-2009, 19:46
Hi Sigur, this log is awesome, keep it up!

You probally had this asked but can you reply or send me a private mail on how you do ur purple?

28-08-2009, 14:56
@dwarfhold13: I had a look at your plog. Very cool conversions and painting in there. Have a look at that one, people!

@The boyz: Thanks. I like painting red, it's always a joy.

thanks for checking it out man!!
as far as the red goes.. thats exactly what they said in the 90's too :D
only one more day before i get home and post some update pictures.. next time i go on the road i'm bringing painting stuff with me

Crazy Harborc
29-08-2009, 00:17
sigur....had a birthday is now a year OLDER. More grey hair and maybe less of it. Memory starting to go??

Soooo, are you caught up with the projects yet?

How about now?

30-08-2009, 11:31
@shadowtiger99: It's been a while since I painted purple but it goes like this: Liche Purple/chaos black basecoat, work up from that until you hit pure liche purple, then start adding either skull white or bleached bone (which I prefer) to the liche purple and highlight away. Do final highlights with a 90/10 mix of liche purple and bleached bone or skull white. Keep your paints thin and you should be fine. :)

@dwarfhold13: Hehe, yeah. and having gotten into the GW thing back then, I still think that no miniature may pass without at least a bit of red on it.

@Crazy Harborc: Gee, I guess I can always trust in your assistance when I want to feel miserable, eh? ;) No grey hair that I'm aware of yet but a friend likes to tease me about some receding hairline which is ********!! (*carefully combs over the last three remaining hairs).


Well, metallics are done now, darker browns are done now, so I'm only left with the socks and the bases. And those weird towels all the players are having with them. What's up with those anyway?

30-08-2009, 14:05
The towels are obviously for whipping each other in the showers as sports guys are wont to do. ;)

30-08-2009, 17:41
The towels are obviously for whipping each other in the showers as sports guys are wont to do. ;)

They're for cleaning hands/gloves so that you can hold the ball easily (in wet or otherwise manky, muddy conditions). It makes a difference believe me!

Just another detail they have taken from NFL players and added to blood bowl.

On topic:

Looking good mate, the one observation I would make though is, the armour is pretty bland. It's just red really, I'd like to see some white details added to it, especially on the linemen. I think the helmets might have been better in white with a red stripe down the midddle.

But other than those preferences, you've done a great job getting a nice smooth, strong red.

Keep up the good work.



08-09-2009, 10:16
@Catferret: :D

@CMDante: Meh, that might also be an explanation but, being an ignorant git towards american football, I think I prefer Catferret's explanation. ;) Thanks for the comment on the overall painting scheme. Again I want to mention how my camera eats shadings and highlights on reds so it doesn't look that bland in real life but in general, you might be right about the colourscheme. White helmets might have worked better.




No big news on the BB team, but I wanna get it done soon. I think that the added grass gives a nice contrast to the red armour parts and make the minis look much more nicely. Ocational stripes on the bases make a real difference too. The minis are a little bit messy in small places but I'm pretty pleased with them and will call them finished after a few touch-ups.

Then, there's Warmaster. With this batch, I got something new - not hordes of stuff to paint but small bits to convert and build. There's three things that have to be done:

a.) Convert flying Tzeentch chariots consisting of Gobbo chariots and flying daemons. I added tzeentchian fire to make them look more in character.


b.) 19 chariot crew Goblins. Pretty straightforward, just painting but it's a bit annoying having to mount the minis on something because they are really small and fiddly.


c.) Chaos Spawns. The customer converted some chaos spawns using GS. The problem is that he didn't knead the yellow and blue parts so it will never cure is and is a chore to remove so I'll have to get rid of all the yellow and blue stuff before I can build the things again from scratch.

Updates coming up soon I hope. C&C welcome as always.

Solun Decius
08-09-2009, 11:42
BB team looks great now!
Will there be goblins in the tzeentchian chariots ... or are you painting them up to use elsewhere? They look really good, considering their size and all. Well painted tiny faces.

Oh, and good luck with the GS plucking!

08-09-2009, 13:17
Hehehe... I just love those goblin crew... dy iz so cute :D

10-09-2009, 00:49
@Solun Decius: Cheers, the green grass really improve the overall looks of the whole team. They aren't going on the chaos chariots, the customer just sent them and requested that I paint them. I hope he doesn't start painting stuffs like chariots himself or got someone to paint his WM things even cheaper (which i really doubt).

@Crube: Yes, aren't they adorable? :p

Righty you guys, I decided that the BB team is finished (final pictures soon), finished painting these crew gobbos and got surprisingly far on the tzeentch chariot (on 9/9/09, most suspiciously).

chariots and screamers

And here's one of those ever popular size comparison shots. :p

Well, well, well, I haven't painted a Tzeentch Miniature in AGES (not since the three weeks i was a dedicated CSM player right after starting 40k I think).

It's also good to finally get some projects off the table (like the BB team). At the moment I actually am only working on one commission only and I'm proceeding well with it. Nice thing, that.

10-09-2009, 01:08
Awww! So cute! Lil tiny screamers. :D

Nice work. I'll be damned if I could paint detail on such small models. If I was wearing my hat, I'd tip it to you.

10-09-2009, 07:53
Excellent work on the screamers especially... I had enough trouble painting WFB scale one :rolleyes: Lovely blue colour... care to share?

10-09-2009, 08:54
Lovely little screamers.

10-09-2009, 09:34
Ah, it's good to be back, so I can look at your Warmaster-pieces again! :D

Cute screamers (and everything else) Sigur, thanks for sharing.


10-09-2009, 09:50
@catferret: cheers mate. :)

@Crube: Enchanted Blue base, 2 layers of highlights of ench.blue/skull white mixes, aurmen blue wash in places (probably would be more clever to apply that one before highlighting really).

@mrtn: Yeah, they're kinda cute. Remind me of these flying, mind controlling things from Venus in It conquered the World.

@Toschenko: Hey, welcome back! Where have you been?

10-09-2009, 13:32
Very nice work :)

Might I ask if you are using black or white undercoat for the Tzeentch? Cheers

Mr Feral
10-09-2009, 21:07
Excellent little Daemonic Chariots, it'll be good to see how they look all assembled and based up.

Also to echo others, how did you paint those Screamers? (I have someto do as well, need the inspiration ;))

Nephilim of Sin
11-09-2009, 11:22
Those screamers are excellent! Especially when you show the size comparison, as it is so easy to forget just how tiny those lil' buggers are.

The BB team is awesome as well; just extremely well done. I think painting all those Orks got you to be able to capture that tone of red very well.

11-09-2009, 14:10
@Souleater: Black undercoat. Prolly works with white undercoat just as well though because there aren't to many details on these guys compared to infantry and the like.

@Mr Feral: Enchanted Blue base, 2 layers of highlights of ench.blue/skull white mixes, aurmen blue wash in places (probably would be more clever to apply that one before highlighting really). For the purple parts: mix liche purple with enchanted blue for the base colour, try to keep it thin to make it blend with the blue, mix liche purple with a bit of white for highlights, for "higher" highlights, mix red and white, throw in a bit of liche purple, paint away.

@Nephilim: I enjoy painting WM minis; you don't have to bother with blending that much. I'm glad the BB team is finally done. Took me way too long.

The WM customer guy let me know about the next steps in WM painting. There's still loads coming up. Next: More Araby (with flying carpets this time :cheese: ), after that it's Empire, Dogs of War, ....

11-10-2009, 12:58
Alrighty, time for some updates!

First off, the finished Tzeentch chariots:



The pictures don't show it that well but they are actually flying. Flames are sculpted. As for the spawns I told you about earlier- I'm very glad to tell you that the yellow and blue stuff finally came off after some days soaking in Acetone. Now I have to rebuild the things from scratch. Yerch.

Now for the main parr of the current Warmaster commission:






11-10-2009, 13:02


War Altar




For the colour scheme, I chose Talabheim just because I really like the combination of red and white. The War Altar is a really cool model. This is one of the advantages of the Warmaster scale - monsters and warmachines can be made really, really colossal and impressive.

Hope you like the pictures. Next up: Chaos Spawns and after that....only the gods know. Probably some more Empire or maybe Araby.

edit: oh, I forgot one thing - I also had the honors to paint 19 Wolf chariot crew goblins (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/Lexandro/Warmaster/bagofgobbos.jpg). Not too spectecular so I didn't set them all up but just for completion's sake...

11-10-2009, 13:02
He's aliiiiive ;)

Those chariots look ace, although, no crew?

And good work on the Flagellants - you must be pleased with them...

As to the next steps, which DoW units will you be painting...?

That War Altar is amazing - excellent stuff :D

11-10-2009, 13:06
Well, that was quick. Someone must have had lurked around under my tree. :p

Indeed, no crew on the chariots because they are driven by MAGIC! Well...and the customer just said that he doesn't have any appropriate crew at the moment but might come up with something.

11-10-2009, 13:10
Well, that was quick. Someone must have had lurked around under my tree. :p

Don't know what you mean (although you could be a little more careful with those nuts you keep throwing out...)

Indeed, no crew on the chariots because they are driven by MAGIC! Well...and the customer just said that he doesn't have any appropriate crew at the moment but might come up with something.

To my eyes, they are a little lacking without crew - I know they're magical things, but they still need something IMO in the back, maybe just a horror or something perhaps.... Still, the customer is always right, eh?

11-10-2009, 13:27
To my eyes, they are a little lacking without crew - I know they're magical things, but they still need something IMO in the back, maybe just a horror or something perhaps.... Still, the customer is always right, eh?

Now for the bad pun from hell: Even the small Empire looks great... *crickets clitter* :eyebrows:

But seriously your painting skills in such a small scale are uncanny.

11-10-2009, 14:55
Great stuff! I agree that the chariots, magic or no, could do with crew though. The flagellants are really nice models.

How did you paint the gold on the war altar?

11-10-2009, 16:34
Great stuff, Sigur. I think your Warmaster painting skills have improved even further. My favourites are actually the lowlier regiments, like the Musketeers and the Flagellants. You paint every single R&F model as they were heroes. Regarding the Tzeentch chariots, I think you have done a fantastic conversion, but I think something is missing. I have not seen the models, but would Horrors or Chaos Sorcerors work? Is it possible to Tzeentchify some regular Warriors?


Crazy Harborc
13-10-2009, 01:05
Sigh!! To have younger eyes to see to paint in a smaller scale. I can still enjoy the photos.:D

13-10-2009, 01:38
And here's one of those ever popular size comparison shots. :p


moar squat pics pleaz

Awesome warmaster stuff. I never knew how nice those models could look.

Solun Decius
13-10-2009, 08:59
I'll just get right in tune with the qoire! The detail and depth in those tiny models is outstanding! The Altar is awesome but I really like the Muskateers and the Flagellants totally get that "chaotic mess" across!
Looking at this thread always makes me think about all the unpainted (and very old 1st ed.) Epic stuff I've got ... but alas, so much to wannado, so little time!

14-10-2009, 19:56
For the colour scheme, I chose Talabheim just because I really like the combination of red and white. The War Altar is a really cool model. This is one of the advantages of the Warmaster scale - monsters and warmachines can be made really, really colossal and impressive.
Gasp! But, but that's Denmark's colours! :D

Yep, Warmaster is a real opportunity for "easily" creating immense centerpieces that just wouldn't fit on their bases in Warhammer. Good progress overall; I'm very fond of how you painted the Tzeentch chariots!

01-11-2009, 01:38
Nice Warmaster Empire! Loads of ideas to be had, and my nascent Empire army is mocking me in the basement at the moment...

The flying chariots are superb, definitely crying out for some flamers to be flaming around in the chariots.

Keep up the good work!

Gabacho Mk.II
01-11-2009, 05:49
Jesus Christ sigur, you are THE painting God!!!


01-11-2009, 06:14
I have to say having had a crack at these little fellas I am in awe of your Warmaster stuff ... I am just amazed at how great you make them look. My hat is off to you.

08-11-2009, 12:09
Thanks a lot guys. I'm posting just to let you know I'm still around. ;) I just have been focussing on 40k stuff lately, trying to get my "oddball" IG army in gear.

There should be more 10mm stuff coming up soon - more Empire, Warriors of Chaos and WM historicals too so stay tuned!

14-12-2009, 11:59
Alright, I will not blame you if you didn't "stay tuned" because it takes a little bit longer than planned with the commissions. Anyway, the first packet arrived today:


A whole bunch of (mortal) chaosy goodness. I decided not to unpack and clean everything in one go but do it in two to three batches. So first, there will be the "heavy" detachment - Chaos Knights, Chaos Warriors, Dragon Ogres, Spawns. Later, Hounds, Marauders, Chariots and Characters will be added.

I'll try to work at a fast pace and post updates frequently and regularly. :)

14-12-2009, 12:07
*tunes in again*

I'm sure everyone is waiting with baited breath to see your spectacular works!

Really, one of my favorite plogs in all Warseer.

14-12-2009, 17:13
We're still here, aren't we?

14-12-2009, 18:30
Oh cool, Warmaster. I like forward to seeing what you do with these.

Crazy Harborc
14-12-2009, 19:00
"Oh, look at the pretty little toy soldiers. Oh, they are just SO cute". A friend of my wife said that recently:mad:

I will be a waiting photos too. Just love the cute little soldiers.

15-12-2009, 01:12
@happy_doctor: That's nice to hear, thanks. :)

@mrtn: Surprisingly so. ;)

@spikedog: Cheers. Hope to be able to deliver with results soon.

@Crazy Harborc: Did you throw her out after she said these words?

The day's over, I spent way too much time shopping with a friend but nevermind. I'm not quite sure about the colour scheme (or base design) the customer wants so I can't do much anyway.

..apart from setting up a to do list:

Characters: still in blister
6 chariots: still in blister
3 bases of chaos hounds: still in blister
6 bases of Marauders: still in blister
8 bases of Chaos Knights: built, primed and glued to bases
6 bases of Chaos Warriors: built, primed and glued to bases
3 Dragon Ogres: built, primed and glued to bases
2 Spawns: built, primed and glued to bases

First problems emerged when I noticed that one of the chaos knights came damaged in the blister (lance had snapped off - annoying). The other problem was that the customer wants the Chaos Knights to be 3 minis per base, as I did it with the other cavalry before. Problem is that there are surprisingly strong connection points between the two knights that are the actual mini so disconnecting them was a bit tricky.

Alright, that's it for day #1, I'll go to bed.

15-12-2009, 20:45
As predicted, the commissions I had agreed to do all through fall are coming in now. All at once as it seems. Look who decided to invade my desk today:


Ancient Greeks! 480 of them being Hoplites and some other dudes. They are 6mm so it's a kind of new experience for me because I never painted this scale, not counting some test minis for Epic.

Great, was afraid that I could get bored of all the Chaos stuff. ;)

15-12-2009, 21:00
Yay ! More warmaster stuff ! You made another thread reader happy today :D

16-12-2009, 07:06
6mm AND Greeks! I am in heaven.


Lord Azoth
16-12-2009, 10:25
They are 6mm so it's a kind of new experience for me because I never painted this scale, not counting some test minis for Epic.

6mm!!.Iīm painting 15m spartans and they are really tiny..but 6mm!!! OMG... looking forward the process

16-12-2009, 19:32
@Ancre: Cheers. I aim to please (by posting pictures of unpainted minis ;) )

@fredmans: Good to know that my desk is your heaven but I'm afraid I'll have to keep you waiting for some proper painted Greeks. I'll do the Chaos stuff first until I get really really bored of them.

@Lord Azoth: I find 15mm scale very convenient to paint (even more so than 28mm actually) because it somehow is the point where a satisfying level of detail on the sculpts meets with a certain easiness to paint. Let's see how it works out at 6mm. I'm a bit afraid that I'll miss the level of details.

Alright you guys. So all the greeks are cleaned, bent into shape (no spears snapped yet *knock on wood*) and primed. I thought about test minis and quickly came to the conclusion that I shouldn't have primed them black. So, being the pro and vet and whatnot that I am, I decided to make use of good old "dusting" (a.k.a. knucklehead painter didn't think before priming and has to prime twice :cheese: ).

Anyhow, for the WM chaos dudes, I already have a recipe and they came in first so I decided to start with them.



Other chaos stuff:

I hope to finish the warriors and knights tonight (just had the first cup of coffee), do the Dragon Ogres - cool minis. As I said before, WM scale works great for any kind of monster - and the Spawns tomorrow and maybe will even be able to assemble the rest of the chaos stuff.

Wish me luck!

16-12-2009, 19:35
Sweet, I picked the same scheme for my Warmaster Chaos... except yours is much-much better painted than mine.

Looking forward to the big gribblies, especially the Dragon Ogres are very fun to paint!

17-12-2009, 00:20
Great warmaster figs. Love seeing those little guys all ranked up. About how big will your Chaos army be?

17-12-2009, 08:02
Hi Sigur,

First post here. I enjoy very much every pic you put on the log. Keep on.
Those chaos warriors and knights look promising.

For Dragon ogres and spawns you can make a google seach to take some ideas. I really like the look of the old metal one:

Or the more diverse colour scheme of the new plastic ones:

And for dragon ogre:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1181823_99060201200_ChaosDragonOgre3Main_352x253. jpg

Keep on Sigur

17-12-2009, 08:28

Hi again Sigur. Have you an idea where to find this beauties? I think they are from a special edition blister when SoC.

As a side note more example pics. Now characters:
Classic Archaon with matching red cape http://www.atouchoftensai.com/wargames/gallery/103.jpg
Classic GW Archie http://www.tavernadelgargoyle.com/ecom/images/Archaon%20della%20Fine%20dei%20Tempi.JPG
And another to show the cool base on 28mm http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/208/a/8/Chaos_Lord_Archaon_by_Kseronarogu.jpg

Is there any possibility to make something similar with Archaonīs base. Some kind of spikes from below with glows and rifts and things like that?

And for the sorcerer i like something undivided:

17-12-2009, 09:14
Cool cool, who are the 6mm Greeks made by? I love 6mm ancients.

Your warmaster stuff is always fun to see

17-12-2009, 15:40
@mistermaster: Thanks for the commitment. ;) I'll see what I can do about the bases for the characters. Might cost a bit more then though; depending on what I can come up with.

@zoggin-eck: They are made by a company named Baccus. I think they're British.

A tiny update: Warriors are finished painting, so are the knights. Dragon Ogres are well on their way, 90% finished I'd say. You were right, they were fun to paint up. Pictures will follow later. See you!

Crazy Harborc
17-12-2009, 20:53
sigur.....I have a mental image of you at your worktable. The table covered by many, many Warmaster untouched minies.

Between you and the minies is a BIG, BIG.....magnifying glass. On the floor next to you is a cooler full of chunks of ice covering a couple of 6 packs. Looks like beer to me.....ANYWAY.....Now, I've got the image out of MY mind.:D

18-12-2009, 05:01
Nice to see some of your warmaster stuff.
I hope to see the Greeks soon, 'cause your warmaster minis are always cool !

18-12-2009, 22:52
@Crazy Harborc: ...and thanks for planting that image into our minds. :p I don't use magnifying glasses and had to learn the hard way that alcohol and painting doesn't mix well. ;)

@tancrede: Thank you, after the first batch of WM Chaos, it's all Greeks.

Alrighty, of course I proceed slower than planned. Dragon Ogres are done now though:



...and look what I got in the mail today - more commission work; a WHFB chaos army:

It's all about timing you know. I don't even bother to list what's in there (a quick overview showed: lots of awesome stuff), I just shut the box again and got back to painting. :p

19-12-2009, 10:50
Warmaster Spawns WIP:

Hoplites Test mini:


Size comparison shot:

19-12-2009, 22:45
Update again. Ran out of black primer so I can't really continue working on the WM Chaos guys. Took up work on the Hoplites. After painting the test mini, I figured out a way to paint them quickly and well but still, the sheer number of minis makes applying the basecoat a pain. I literally spent most of the day basecoating the first half of these guys (second rank of each base); metal parts: copper, cloth and skin parts: dheneb stone. This dheneb stone foundation paint really grew on to me. It makes a great basecoat for all kinds of colours.


There's light at the end of the tunnel but it's a darned long tunnel with these guys. Reminds me of the time when I painted the quasi-single-pose Night Gobbos from the Battle for Skull Pass box but multiplied by ten in terms of monotony.

20-12-2009, 00:39
Wow that looks... boring to paint. They make the Warmaster chaos guys look big. :D

Keep up the good work mate. :)

20-12-2009, 10:31
Hahaha this is an army of gnome chased by the empire's finest knights :D You do great work.

And those dragon ogres are wonderful. GW's pictures don't really show that ; I'm glad I can see them here too !

20-12-2009, 15:13
@mrtn: You got it. Boring as hell.

@Ancre: Not sure where you're seeing Empire knights there but anyway. ;) Yah, the dragon ogres are really cool minis. Again we see that the design of GW's dragon ogres isn't the problem, only the size of their bases. If they came on chariot bases or just 50mm bases, they'd have more space and had the possibility to look much cooler. I think that there's new Dragon Ogres rumored to be released in February or something but I don't have high hopes for those.

Anyhow, I continued painting a bit. All that's left to do (haha) is highlighting the metallics, adding unit colours, belts and painting the spears. Then half of the hoplites will be done. After that, I'll do something else and then slowly take up work on these greeks again to finish them off.

A hint for those of the misled cult of "true scale" - 6mm Infantry makes WM chaos warriors look like space Marines. Consider that for your WM Chaos Marauders. :p

20-12-2009, 20:12
Ah, those are actually chaos knights ... if I can see well this time ... my bad. (I blame my glasses :D Ain't my fault it's their's :D )

Crazy Harborc
20-12-2009, 21:11
I admit it......I am always glad to clear my mind ......Especially while messing with the minds of others as I do it.;)

My eyes get tired just painting in 25/28mm scale. ALL those spears and shields!! Their REALLY is hundreds of them too.:eek:

28-12-2009, 15:21
Sorry for the lack of updates the past few days, guys. Hope you had joyful holidays even though the huge loss the Warseer community had to suffer.

There's been some unhealthy ups and downs in my "private life" the past days so painting was kind of impossible but I recovered and managed to get back to the painting table again.

So here's what has happened during the past week: I finished the rear row of all of the Hoplite units, the WM Chaos Warhounds have been painted and I'm currently working on the WM chaos chariots which are...let's say 60% painted now. The crews aren't painted at all yet. So these will be next. After that, there's the Marauders and the Characters (which should be good fun) to finish and that's that for the WM chaos dudes. After that, I'll try to finish the Greeks and then I can finally start working on these 28mm chaos dudes. For now, I put all other commissions for which people haven't sent me the minis yet to a halt so I could work on the stuff I have here. This mass of minis is really overwhelming and I hate having a big pile of unpainted minis in front of me.

I'll put up new pictures soon, bye for now!

28-12-2009, 22:39
As always Sigur real life will always come before the art of war, and it's never good to read what we have all read in the past few days coupled with real life dramas and i wouldn't expect any man to be at his normal level. Though i am glad your still putting brush to paint and recover from it all.

Can't wait to see some pictures when you get the chance, until then best wishes and good lucks from Raven!

30-12-2009, 15:17
@The_Dark_Raven: Thanks for the heads up.

Picture time!


Quite straightforward to paint. I did WM Chaos Chariots before so no big news here.


I hope the customer likes the colour scheme. I tried to make a slimy trail behind them but gloss varnish and green ink somehow don't show too well. I mean, it's visible but you probably have to know that it's there to see it.

Chaos Hounds:

Pretty straightforward as well. The pictures are a bit bad; the painting is more crisp and detailled in real life.

Characters #1:

The characters were all fun to paint eventhough I couldn't concentrate on each one as much as I'd liked to because I painted them in one batch with the chariot crews. Still, I think they all stand out pretty well.

Characters #2:

Cool stuff. I really have to compliment the sculptors for making a miniature on that scale as dynamic and inventive as the daemon emerging from the ground. The Archaon look-a-like is good as well. As per the wish of the customer, I added some rocky pillars to emerge from the ground, shattering through the earth and leaving green fissure around. It's not too easy to see in the pictures but they're there.


Another impressive miniature. This guy reminded me of illustrations of Moses a lot, probably just because of the huge stone tablet he's standing on. But this guy really looks like there's a thunderstorm going on around him. Not sure if I chose the colour of the robe wisely for a chaos sorcerer but he definately stands out well.

So that's that for now. Next on my list is two units of Chaos Marauders.

Oh, and there'll be dry/dead grass added to the bases but I'll do that in the end and for all the units at once. Hope you like everything and C&C are welcome as always!

30-12-2009, 16:21
Sigur, that's some lovely Warmaster stuff. Makes me want to strip mine and start again.
The only thing I am not overly fond of is the Spawn scheme, it's a bit too different from the rest for my taste.

30-12-2009, 20:22
I'd go crazy painting that many small models. Wish i had your patience.

Looking forward seeing progress of that WHFB commission.

Mr Feral
30-12-2009, 20:44
Cool Warmaster stuff, the red and cream colour combination is an interesting yet effective one. :)

30-12-2009, 21:14
Good work as usual.

01-01-2010, 12:01
I love the painting Sigur. You make WM scale to shine like they were 28mm. I didnīt think they had so much detail until you painted hem. Really great job.

I like the colour scheme of the sorcerer. Heīs a kind of noble well dressed. And his colours match with the theme.
Your green glows on stone are amazing. They give so much character to the characters.

Just one minor request. Could you put a chaos star or the battle standard bearer? Heīs suposed to be Archaonīs left hand and his icon is a bit bold.

I cant wait to see those marauders painted!

02-01-2010, 01:33
Thanks for the reply guys and a belated Happy New Year! Wish everyone of you a great 2010. :)

@Alubath: I get your point. I think they tie in pretty well with the dragon ogres so I'll leave the spawns as they are.

@Mr Feral: If you can count on one thing in life, it's the fact that black/dark metal, white and red go together very well. ;)

@mrtn: cheers

@mistermaster: Thanks. Here's the standard bearer as it is now:


I actually did a bit of shading on the chaos star where the fabric folds but it's hard to see in the picture.



As always, the shot from the backsides came out much better. I have no idea what this weird effect is about but it's been haunting me for years; the shots of the less prominent side of miniatures always come out better. Be assured that the metallics look better in real life than they do in the first picture. These miniatures are awesome. Seriously, every single one of these guys is designed to be very individual, but every single one is pure heavy metal. (some are viking metal, I guess).

Work on these Marauders was fuelled by the intervention of at least two chaotic powers; tonight, a tv channel brought a Conan the Barbarian and Krull double feature. :cheese: painting the Marauders took me way longer than these 3,5 something hours but it still was a pleasant, oily-beefcake-laden time.

Next thing to do: Get the bases on the chaos minis done and then get back to work on those ....*shudders*... Greeks. Wish me luck and see you soon with a boring update on 6mm mono-pose dudes!

Solun Decius
02-01-2010, 11:59
It's always a pleasure to page through this log. Not many people are doing warmaster minis here and the fact that you are doing them so well makes this log a great representation for a less known game system.
The hounds and chaos chariots (especially pictured in such numbers) are great but this huge mass of marauders blew me away!
Huge favorite for me, this log.

02-01-2010, 13:57
@Solun Decius: Thanks muchly. :) Despite not playing the game or even having seen a game of Warmaster played, the miniatures kinda grew onto me. The style is very good and I often find myself admiring the level of detail the sculptors put into the miniatures. Infantry minis mostly.

The chaosy stuff is finished:


I even managed to finish painting the first two units of Hoplites earlier today. Only 8 more to go! Oh, and remind me that I take pictures of the individual WM Chaos units so I can upload them to my CMON gallery later. My digicam is acting a bit weird at the moment.

02-01-2010, 16:42
Just WOW! Canīt say anything more elaborated. The battle standard bearer is amazing. Iīm unable to make that star on 28mm miniatures so watching it on 10mm is just unbelieveable.

The group shots rocks! I canīt wait to see those details with my own eyes. Great work also with Geeks...greeks.

I will follow the progression with Warhammer chaos stuff.

Congrats Sigur!!

02-01-2010, 21:30
Wow those are some seriously nice Chaos Warmaster models, and the speed with which you painted them makes it even more impressive!

What is next for you?

04-01-2010, 01:32
@mistermaster: Glad you like it. I'll send the stuff off to you soon.

@spikedog: Thanks a lot.

And to answer your question what was next for me - I did a little bit of painting on the Greeks, every brushstroke was a chore, so I decided to assemble the plastic chaos giant instead. :D

04-01-2010, 07:53
Very good work here, as always.
Black, red and steel is really a cool scheme for chaos !

05-01-2010, 00:53
Grats on finishing another horde sigur! Your plog is definitely one of my favorites! :)

05-01-2010, 14:22
@tancrede: Thank you. :)

@Saulot: Cheers mate. Might be due to the annoying reorganisation of the painting logs or the lack of time I have to look at other logs but I think I haven't seen you around for quite some time.

Anyhoo, here's a pic of my painting table at the moment.


At least the 20cmē I actually use and which aren't crammed with painting pots. I really need to find some new way to store them. My little painting rag got way too small with all these new washes, an increased number of VMC paints and so on.

Still fiddling around with the lava effect because I'm not quite happy with it it at the moment. My thoughts on the so much hated plastic giant kit (we all remember the not-so-subtle WD adverts): It's got the tons of extra bits that I was promised. I was kinda impressed with how clever they did the legs.

The plastic chaos hounds are very good as well. The design is a tad silly but it's chaos and highly fantasy-ish so it's okay. The detail is phantastic and due to the way the moulds are designed, there's hardly any mould lines at all. I also had a look at the chaos knights sprues - boy, are they impressive. HUGE improvement over the annoyingly boring 6th edition chaos knights. And they're so huge! It's quite sick. I also unpacked and washed the chosen chaos warriors and those really surprised me. From the pictures I knew, they looked kinda like "the odd unit" to me. The one nobody buys and which are basically just some test minis by a new sculptor. And how wrong I was. These chosen are not only BIG, they are also very detailled, and just look fearsome. Looking forward to painting those if only I could find the drill bits I bought...

Anyhow, that's hardly news to you but I seldomly get my paws on really new plastic kits and GW did a great job on those so I was quite impressed.

05-01-2010, 15:10
I'm not sold on the lava bases. The effect on the whole army will be like a lot of tiny rivers, while the realistic thing would be one big river, and then just dry ground beside it.
The skin of the giant seems to be going well.

Solun Decius
05-01-2010, 15:38
The lava bases have a good visual impact, whether or not it's realistic that it flows that way. Hounds and giats look good so far and I look forward to seeing what you do with all those new chaos models.

05-01-2010, 17:19
The giant looks very promising, also quite dark compared to your more recent painting. (Yeah, I know that's just because of the black undercoat. Still I didn't expect it.)
I like it. :)

05-01-2010, 19:40
@mrtn: I see your point and agree but lava bases just couldn't really work armywide if they were made to be realistic. ;)

@Solum Decius: Thanks.

@Gargobot: I just started with a quite dark shade of skincolour and then layer up from there to lighter shades. Apart from that, the customer wants a quite dark and muted colourscheme.

Giant skin update:



05-01-2010, 20:06
That giant is looking so so nice! the bases work so well with it!
i dont know what else to say, keep up the amazing work man, its going to look brilliant when its all together!
i only wish i could do decent bases myself!

cheers and lovely cragum

05-01-2010, 20:41
Really good looking mini (?) sigur, especially the back looks lovely so far. I'd recommend you to work a lot with green/red/purple glazes on the face to make it more expressive, the sculpt lends itself to such a treatment.

The base is great, too :D


06-01-2010, 02:09
@sigur: Yeah man... been out of the hobby and the forums for nearly two years. Slowly (or not too slowly) going back into it. :)

Anyway, sweet back your Giant has. Mind giving me its number? lol.. :p

06-01-2010, 19:30
Hi Sigur, I've just stumbled across your blog while looking for some Warmaster inspiration and I must say I'm thoroughly inspired and raring to get going painting my own WM Chaos army.

Would you mind giving me an idea of how you went about painting those Chaos Warriors? A rough recipe for the metal, red and bone would be an immense help - it seems I'm pretty good at getting paint in the right place but picking colour schemes is something that constantly eludes me...

Thanks for any advice - L.

captian Maklai
06-01-2010, 19:47
I really like this thread! Great work with the dark elves, By the way a question if i may, do the cold one's come from the older cold one knights or do you have the most recent cold one knights mounted on the cold one's from the cold one chariot?:chrome:

06-01-2010, 21:48
@Cragum: Thanks a lot.

@Toschenko: Thanks for the suggestion on the face, I'll give that a try. Used a little blue wash on it so far.

@Saulot: Ah, so I was right. Last time I remember seeing you roaming the internets was on druchii.net, but I stopped going there about two years ago so...

@levinas: I know the problems with picking colour schemes. I always find that quite hard as well. Here's how I do chaos warriors: Black primer, boltgun metal, black wash, mithril silver highlights on metallics. Reds: VMC Hull red base, one or two layers of highlights with mixes of hull red and blood red, final highlights with blood red, possibly followed by highlights of dwarf flesh or bleached bone or whatever you fancy. Bone: Dheneb stone base, shade with devlan mud at the base if you like, highlight with skull white.

@captian Maklai: thanks, I hope you subscribed. ;-) As for the cold one Knights, I always used them as "intended", so 6th edition CoK on 6th edition cold ones, and the few 7th edition CoK I have are mounted on their 7th edition lizards. I don't think that the new cold one knights would even fit on the older lizards (which now are only to be found in the DE chariot kit).

Little update:




And we finally got the smoked-out wasp nest down from the attic and I got to make some pictures of the interor. Very impressive, alien stuff:



I hope you like the giant so far. :-)

06-01-2010, 22:21
The Giant is shaping up nicely! The skin looks awesome, as do the muted colours on his trousers! And I must say I'm also not a fan of lava bases in general (at least for Fantasy), but yours look cool so far. They have a nice, smooth glow to them. Keep them coming!

Monsterzonk :skull:

07-01-2010, 02:31
@Monsterzonk: Thanks for the input. Glad you even like the lava bases. I can see why some people aren't too fond of them. Many times, they make everything look a bit overloaded but in some cases, with muted coloured minis for example, they can give the much needed contrast. By the way, I've had a look at your painting logs; impressive stuff. Do you play as well or just paint?

Speaking of contrast, I added some colour to the giant:



As you can see, some detailwork has begun. As much as I like bright colours, I tried my best to keep it down on this guy (as on the whole army).

As an unrelated thing, I think I might have bruised some bone of my left hand while trying to fend of the ruinous powers which makes painting a bit less fun but I guess that will be okay again in one or two days.

Hope you STILL like the giant, see you soon!

captian Maklai
07-01-2010, 06:49
Ok thanks, and if i knew how to subscribe by now, i would have :)

07-01-2010, 07:12
been a long time lurker of this log, and I just popped up to say "holy crud, crazy wasp-nest!" oh and nice giant!

07-01-2010, 07:17
Great work on the skin tone. It's a very unique and realistic color. I love it.

07-01-2010, 07:54
Your stuff is great as always but the lava bases increase the quality to a high degree. Other lava bases iīve seen are made by un-blended lines of oranges and yellows but yours are a perfect mix of "lava-like" colours. Congrats.

Please make a good alien scenery piece with that nest if that is possible. It looks so menacing!

07-01-2010, 09:52
The giant is turning out really great, Exellent skin tones and the lava base looks good to, much better then the ones I usually see.

I'm looking forward to seeing the progress of the chaos army. :)

07-01-2010, 10:36
From the biggest to the smallest models you have some serious skills my friend.
The Giant is top notch.
As always a pleasure and and inspiration.

07-01-2010, 11:11
@Monsterzonk: Thanks for the input. Glad you even like the lava bases. I can see why some people aren't too fond of them. Many times, they make everything look a bit overloaded but in some cases, with muted coloured minis for example, they can give the much needed contrast. By the way, I've had a look at your painting logs; impressive stuff. Do you play as well or just paint?

You're welcome and thanks for checking on my stuff! I mostly just paint (mainly because of a lack of painted armies...), but I do know the rules (to an extent) and I'd love to get some games in once in a while! Maybe it's time I got myself an army case of sorts... ;)

On topic: The Giant looks just great! The red works perfectly as a contrasting colour without breaking the overall earthy tones. Well done! Can't wait to see him finished!

Monsterzonk :skull:

07-01-2010, 12:41
Thanks for the info Sigur, most helpful! Consider me subscribed to this thread, it's a great motivator.

07-01-2010, 12:48
Great work on the skin Mr Skwrrl, it looks quite realistic.

Solun Decius
07-01-2010, 14:52
Oh, wow, the Giant has come a long way since I last checked in. The skin is great and the details nice and shiny. Either you did that really quickly or I've totally lost track of time :eyebrows:

07-01-2010, 17:52
The giant is already looking awesome, exceptional skin.
Man wasps are weird, I wonder what they were doing in there... :shifty:

07-01-2010, 18:38
@captian Maklai: When composing a reply to a thread, underneath the attachments button, there's a drop down menu in a box which says "Thread suscription". There you can choose to be notified if there are replies to this thread if you like. :)

@Ludaman: Hi, thanks for the feedback.

@Ashton.Sanders: Thanks, first time I used this technique/shade on a 28mm mini. Seems to work fine.

@mistermaster: Thank you. The lack of blending is what bothers me about many lava bases too. The wasp nest's exterior structure is incredibly brittle and composed of very thin walls of what I suppose is wasp vomit. Its only purpose seems to be heat insulation.

@Malenky_malchick: Thanks, I hope to proceed as quickly as possible because there's LOADS of stuff to paint.

@Harry: Cheers, mate! :)

@Monsterzonk: Yeah, I suggest getting an army case of some sort. I got the old GW one (got it with an army deal), made some myself and finally got a proper Feldherr one last winter and it really pays off in my opinion. You'll never get to drag around your army in just one case unless you get one of those seriously big, unwieldy ones but it's perfect for all the infantry one needs for games. Damage Unlimited got a load of different army cases from Feldherr recently, maybe you like to pay them a visit some time soon.

@levinas: Good to know that I could be of help. Good luck with the painting!

@Catferret: lolthxm8

@Solun Decius: I proceeded quite quickly the past days but incredibly slow given the time I spent on this guy.

@Gargobot: Working on hive fleets, I suppose. :cheese:

Some new pictures. As you probably could tell, there won't be any groundbreaking changes from update to update any more; it's mostly detailwork now. The famous last 20% of fine-tuning which take up 80% of the time.




Sorry for the slightly off colours on the shot of his backside. Dunno what went wrong. Still, the shots without the white background work out way better than the ones with the background which usually ended up very yellowish due to my desk lamp. The main thing that's still to be done is the bone parts on the club, some work on the hair and this nasty goat-waterskin. That's it. Not too confident when working with bone so the big skull thing on his club is an interesting challenge.

See you soon and thanks for the motivating replies guys!

07-01-2010, 19:02
Amazing. Just went through you log and you are truly gifted my friend. This giant is looking fantastic. The blending on the skin tones is something to aspire too. I love the details in your painting. The chaos star brand on the right cheek is awesome! Look forward to seeing the rest of this shape up. I am also super impressed with your Druchii. They all look fantastic and the old minis.....wow...i am so impressed at the level of detail you acheived on those. especially the dragon rider and the couldron of blood. I am a huge fan of your black guard as they are inspiring. I just got mine in the mail and now am motivated to paint them more than ever. Cannot wait to see your coldone knights again and also look forward to this Chaos army in progress! *SUBSCRIBE*

Crazy Harborc
07-01-2010, 23:55
Bad light on his um....back side. I kinda thought he just broke wind.;)

08-01-2010, 00:32
Beautiful giant! I love the subtle mutations like his hoofed foot, instead of the horned head and stuff!

Keep it up!


08-01-2010, 15:45
"So, what's your job then?"
"I'm a tattoo artist."
"Oh, cool. So, what's, like, the worst job you've ever done?"
"Well, once I had to tattoo a giant's bum."

Nice giant and wasp's nest.

10-01-2010, 02:49
@npow34: Welcome to my log, thanks a lot for the positive feedback. ;) Not sure when I will return to Dark Elves. I've been out of WHFB for quite some time now (gaming group disbanded, WHFB is seeming a bit scary to me at the moment, other projects) but I still got some DE left unpainted and plan to finish them some time in the future. When new witches are released at the latest. Don't like the current ones. Too little mohawk on them.

@Crazy Harbor: :D Yes, when giants break wind, the gas cloud even blurs photopgraphs.

@Dakkapantz: Cheers. I definately wanted to use the bearded head and first I thought of having no hooves at all but i guessed the customer would want him to look somewhat chaos-y.

@mrtn: That more or less sums it up I guess. Apprentice tatoo artists in the chaos wastes have to test their skills on giant butts and other nasties while the masters of the craft probably get to work on daemonettes. :cheese:

Just a little text update: The giant is finished and the hounds have to wait until i get some new washes. The past two days have been kinda busy so I didn't do much at all but at least I put together the spawns (again, great kit) and based them. I also got another unit of Hoplites finished.

Aw, whatever, I did two snapshots of the spawns:



As you can see, I tried to keep the one in the left quite simple and in a way that you could guess that it once was something humanoid; some upstart champion weapons master dude or something. The other one is pure chaos-born silliness - a tentacle monster. That was the first thing I checked if I could do with the spawn kit of course. In the background, you can see some Hoplites. They aren't that spectecular up close but I kept them in the picture so you see that I'm not lying about their existance. ;)

Comments and critique are welcome as always, hope to be able to deliver with picture updates soon!

P.S.: Thanks to you guys, this project log is amongst the top3 active Fantasy logs and we're not only getting close to 1000 posts but also 100,000 views. Not sure what of these events will happen sooner; let's see.

10-01-2010, 13:22
That giant is outstanding, although I don't envy the tattoo artist!

Spawns are also off to a promising start, I am loving your lava bases, really help to make the figures stand out.

10-01-2010, 14:23
Some new pictures: I didn't have much of a plan of what to do with these guys actually so I fiddled around and looked what would be the result:



The tentacle one got one of these muscle string patterns in fleshy tones while the other guy is going to get a more gradient transistion from very dark on the lower legs to almost white on the top. I wanted to keep the two guys different enough because spawns are probably the most individualistic looking things on the old world, yet tried to keep a somewhat coherent look so they don't stand out too much when looking at the whole army. I don't have the new mortal chaos army book but I suppose you can't have spawns in ranked units because the minis are impossible to rank up anyway.

In the pictures, they look pretty bad compared to real life to be honest and I have no idea why. Maybe the high resolution of the cam is pretty unforgiving to these patterns and drybrushing while the stripes of the muscle fibre pattern look smoother to the human eye.

I admit, they look a bit monotonous at the moment but that will change once i started working on the details. This will break up the base colours with some contrast and will lead to much better results.

Crazy Harborc
11-01-2010, 02:13
It's lunchtime for the spawns. Those tiny Greeks who are arrayed before the spawn.......What kind of sauce do the spawn like, me wonders?.:evilgrin:

11-01-2010, 12:14
I guess Tsatsiki is the only possible choice in this case. ;)

Will upload some more Spawn pictures tonight!

12-01-2010, 09:28
Looking good Mr Sigur...

One thing that bugs me though, that maybe you can explain/deny/throw rocks at me until I go away... the areas where the 'arms', 'heads', etc join the body seem to join quite abruptly - there's no smooth transition - it still looks like they've been stuck on, rather than being organinc appendages... is this something you've noticed, or is it the photos showing up the slightest thing and it's not noticable in real life...?

13-01-2010, 00:31
@Crube: Thanks for your comment. I see your point about the joins and they show in real life as well, especially on the un-tentacle-y one but it's not too bad (like on the new minotaurus heads). For being modular minis, the single add-ons look quite good. I think they look sufficiently coherent but I see that some people still might notice the joints.

Little update: Took pictures of the spawns, pictures sucked big time, will upload them soon though. Spaws are finished now. Assembled 16 Chaos Marauders (HW+shields, full command) as well as 5 chaos knights tonight. Didn't quite finish the knights, they still need shield arms glued on.

Will try to upload pictures tomorrow.

Lord Azoth
13-01-2010, 08:59
the giant looks really ipressive..looking forward to see it finished...

13-01-2010, 09:45
Hey Sigur- just popped my head into your log for a quick look. That giant is stunning- absolutely stunning. Lovely work as ever- you are one very talented little squirrel- excellent work mate.

13-01-2010, 23:40
Lovin your work on th giant mate, spawns are lookin' good too even though i find the kits themselves to be a bit "meh!" for anything short of spare parts. that could just be me...

16-01-2010, 10:57
@Lord Azoth: Cheers. It's as good as finished now apart from some little bits I forgot as i just noticed.

@silverstu: I'm a huge squirrel, dangit! >:0( Thanks anyway.

@LORD OF STUUUUFF: Thanks and welcome to Warseer. I think that for what they wanted to do (totally modular kit with LOADS of options), they did a quite good job. And true, the extra bitz you get with the kit are a very nice add-on.

Alrighty, some pictures:






Marauders WIP:

Also took a new shot of the Hounds (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/Lexandro/Chaos/houndswip1.jpg)which are quite a lot WIP as well.

Sorry about the pictures quality. Thing is, I don't really want to use the usual white/blue background anymore because my desk lamp seems to get old or dirty or something and the light is very yellow which totally messes up the colours, especially when I use the background.

Still, I hope you like it and I'll keep you updated. With better pictures next time.

16-01-2010, 11:10
Excellent work. I'm particuarly imressed with the skin on the Giant... lovely stuff :)

16-01-2010, 11:42
Sorry about the pictures quality. Thing is, I don't really want to use the usual white/blue background anymore because my desk lamp seems to get old or dirty or something and the light is very yellow which totally messes up the colours, especially when I use the background.
Use a normal white background then. :) That makes it easier to make colour corrections in Photoshop and similar as well.

Nice giant.

16-01-2010, 11:47
Looking great! I really like the contrasting green on the tentacle spawn. The blending looks superb! However, I think the spiky spawn could use some more colour. Maybe some blood effects where the spikes burst from the flesh?

Giant's looking awesome! The skin is just great!

Monsterzonk :skull:

16-01-2010, 12:56
I really like the colors you have used on the skin on these, the blending is very smoothe.

Awesome does not even begin to describe...

16-01-2010, 14:01
Strong looking Chaos army Sigur. The giant has great flesh tones and the spawn look very spawny! The lava bases are a nice touch. Keep up the good work!

17-01-2010, 05:52
Nice work on the spawns.

22-01-2010, 17:58
Hey guys!

@Crube: Cheers, this guy has SO much skin that I had to try something special.

@mrtn: Did that again for this update. Worked well again while I used to get a yellow-ish tint earlier with the same background. Weird.

@Monsterzonk: Good call, I'll consider it. :)

@mousekiller: Wooo, thanks.

@jdp: trying to keep up the work. Cheers.

@Melchiah: Thank ye.

No updates for WAY too long. Painting a regiment of Marauders just isn't as exciting as characters or such but anyway, I'm proceeding:



Hope you like 'em. :) Happy weekend!

edit: the skin on these guys is a tad more purple-ish in real life (as on the giant) but apart from that, I'm quite happy with the pictures.

22-01-2010, 20:23
No updates for WAY too long. Painting a regiment of Marauders just isn't as exciting as characters or such but anyway, I'm proceeding
It's still exciting to look at it, if it's so well painted as those are. :)
I like the paler skin, very northern also makes the lava bases pop.
Great work on the giant and the spawns as well. Someone will be pretty pleased.

Crazy Harborc
22-01-2010, 21:03

THANK youuuu. A good way to start a weekend. I like minies "boarding" on magma. I like the shields too.

23-01-2010, 00:30
Sorry I haven't respeonded in a while sigur.

I really like how your guys are turnning out. The marauders just look plan sweet. I like tha giant and spawns as well. Keep up the great work.

23-01-2010, 10:09
I LOVE your Marauders... seeing them in darkish pants all the time, I start to question my yellow / blue approach :/

23-01-2010, 10:18
Awesome work on the giant and marauders


23-01-2010, 15:18
Love your giant there!
and nice theme with the bases looking promising

24-01-2010, 10:56
can you take pictures of the spawn with a less noisy background, please? they look really good

24-01-2010, 12:50
Marauders are looking good so far. One of the true tests of a painter is keeping quality up on the second tier selections in the army and your are doing that in spades with these troops! Between the giant and these guys you have painted a lot of flesh very smoothly. Keep up the good work!

24-01-2010, 18:28
@Gargobot: Thanks, I hope he'll be pleased.

@Crazy Harborc: Errr, welcome, I hope these pictures weren't the highlight of your weekend. ;-)

@Dino: Thanks for dropping by again and leaving compliments.

@Aulbath: Well, I went for a pretty standard and foolproof scheme. Your definately looks more thematic.

@lorcan: Cheers.

@Darkritual: Thanks.

@Asp: Done:







Hope these work for you.

24-01-2010, 18:30

More pictures of the finished giant:


I forgot to take a picture of the sole of his un-hooved foot. I used black pigment powder to blacken his sole because....well, he's running around on lava rocks.

Now for the update:

Almost finished now. I can't believe these took me so long. They still need the horns on the helmets and the straps on the axes finished. Hope to get it done soon.

24-01-2010, 19:06
I can't believe these took me so long.

I can clearly see why it took you so long... amazing models!

24-01-2010, 20:51
Nice work on the Chaos guys you have done. Looking at those bases I kinda wish I could go back and redo my chaos warriors bases. After the Marauders whats next?

24-01-2010, 21:47
Wow, really impressive, whoever's getting this army is a very lucky bunny! Beautiful painting

24-01-2010, 22:45
I wish I had your pace; how was that taking long? And speed aside, it's just great painting and well worth to take a little longer to accomplish. :)

24-01-2010, 22:54
I love your marauders.

Crazy Harborc
24-01-2010, 22:58
Spawn, giant and marauders......The photos show fine looking minies. As already mentioned ......not a long time to get them done either.

25-01-2010, 02:01
@Aulbath: Thanks. Painting humans still is the best. ;)

@Dino: I'm not quite sure what's next. The chaos knights have been sat back a bit because the guy wants two units of 6 knights each so he sent me an additional box (along with a chaos dragon and dragon ogres) which should arrive soon. Maybe I'll do the Chosen next. Not really in the mood for painting the Hounds at the moment. Or should I do some character? Oh, and there's still these Greeks...

@Elfboy: Thanks, I'm kind of confident that the customer will be pleased with the army, thus turning into a "lucky bunny".

@Gargobot: Given the time I do NOT spend painting or studying, I could be a LOT faster.

@ohno!zombies!: Thank you, and you have a very nice nickname.

@Crazy Harborc: Cheers old man. ;)

Due to all your uplifting comments, I got the Marauders finished this night:



Hope you like the finished versions.

edit: Would have loved to do a picture of these guys along with their 10mm counterparts from Warmaster but those were sent of to their owner a few days ago.

Crazy Harborc
25-01-2010, 02:21
THAT is a great looking unit. Recon in force OR just going drinking with the guys. A little volleyball on the beach....OR....tennis?:D

25-01-2010, 02:34
Nice job on the Marauders. I think you should either finish the greeks or do some characters. Thats just me though.

Lord Azoth
25-01-2010, 09:25
Love your Flog mate, the giant is astonishing.... as well as the barbarians...

The spawns looks a bit dull to me, maybe you should apply some tones, some washes of purple, red, green in different parts of the body to break the "flesh monotony"

keep on mate

25-01-2010, 09:45
Damn, this is one of those logs I tend to follow whilst lurking about - which just keeps getting better and better! Brilliant stuff mate, the layering, blending and all the painting techniques were well woth the effort IMHO, the look excellent! I also love how you kept the giant vanilla looking, as people tend to go all out on chaos giants, which is ok - but I like your approach better, just a huge marauder!

All the best,


25-01-2010, 10:51
Great stuff here, man !
Wonderful giant, and I really like the skin tone of both giant and marauders.

25-01-2010, 12:49
@Crazy Harborc: Volleyball with the boys, eh? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G36VaaEJi6I) :cheese::cheese:

@Dino: These Greeks? But they are so small and monopose...

@Lord Azoth: Hmm, maybe I'll slap some wash onto the spawn with the blades and hands and stuff.

@Griffonclaw: Thanks.

@tancrede: Woo, did you hear that guys? Tancrede , the dude who paints awesome skin, likes the way I paint skin! I'm totally awesome. :cool: Thanks.

Little update:

General and chosen are put totgether, now need basing. For some odd reason, the general dude is called "General on Demonic Steed" on GW's website. But isn't this just a regular chaos steed? Anyhow, will keep to proceed quickly. Looks like there's going to be lots of metal to paint.

25-01-2010, 12:53
For some odd reason, the general dude is called "General on Demonic Steed" on GW's website. But isn't this just a regular chaos steed? Anyhow, will keep to proceed quickly. Looks like there's going to be lots of metal to paint.

Daemonic steeds go on 50 mm bases, regular chaos steeds go on cavalry bases.

Good work on all the recent painting.

25-01-2010, 12:56
Damn right the skin is great. Reminds me of the marauder slaves you had pulling the cauldron of blood earlier in the log.

I think I agree about the general's horsey. It looks like a "mundane" Chaos steed, but I guess the bigger base means it is meant to be daemonic. Maybe it has a daemonic aura of stench so nobody else can stay close to it? :p

25-01-2010, 14:13
Both the giant and the marauders turned out great, I espacially liked the red on the marauder standard bearer, that's what I've been trying to achieve but not quite making it.

If I had a say in your WOC bases, I would not "fix" the borders of the bases, I like the way the lava sort off of bleeds over.

I'm also exited to see what your painted versions of the Chaos Lord on Daemonic Mount and chosen will look like because they are some of my favourite figures of the current GW range.
But, I'll jump on the band wagon and say that the "Daemonic Mount" doesn't look that demonic.

25-01-2010, 14:28
Great work, sigur! The Giant's absolutely amazing, and I really like the Marauders' banner top. Cool red! ;) Looking forward to seeing those Chosen. They're great models!

Monsterzonk :skull:

25-01-2010, 19:20
very good, sigur!

and thanks! :D

Crazy Harborc
25-01-2010, 23:05
Oookaayyee....I won't mention volley ball any more. I can imagine some of the possibilities for painting up all that metal.....SPIKES, lots and lots of spikes. Flaming eyes OR jeweled eyes??

Soon, hopefully very soon, we will begin to know, begin to see (photos).

26-01-2010, 00:52
@mrtn: Yeah, I guessed so, I was just confused because usually demonic steeds are Juggernauts, boobworms, discs or ...nurgly beasts. Maybe this is a chaos undivided steed.

@Catferret: Stench! That's it! I'll paint "stench lines" onto it. :p

@Malenky_malchick: I think I wrote it before but I'll gladly repeat myself; these chosen really are great minis. I'd love to see them converted to hold guitars instead of the halbeards. This must be the most awesome thing ever. (or the mix of blood loss due to sharp pins rammed into my fingers and the glue fumes)

@Monsterzonk: Thanks. I did a similar red on some banner tops for my dark elves before. It's a conveniently easy to pull off and good looking effect. I really wanted to avoid gold or brass so this seemed like a good alternative for making it stand out while keeping the theme.

@Asp: You're welcome.

@Crazy Harborc: Well, mentioning playing volleyball with the boys is kinda like taking acending to the Highway to the Dangerzone. :p Haven't really settled for eyes yet. I'm not that great a fan of "glowing eyes" because they tend to look very much comic book like to me. Of course, some OSL-like effect would make them look real badass...meh, let's see how much enthusiasm I build up for these guys.

As for now, a few updates:

.) I'm out of super glue.
.) Chosen and General are primed. It's 2:30 in the morning and it's freezing outside so I chose to open all windows and prime inside. Got a headache now.
.) General's spiky horse/steed is spiky.
.) While the primer was drying, I painted up another two units of Hoplites.

And here's finally a to do list of the Chaos stuff I will paint:

Archaon, Lord of the End Times
Slaanesh Lord on demonic steed
Chaos Lord on demonic-ish horsie
Tzeentch Lord on Disc
Chaos Lord on Chaos Dragon
Mounted Sorcerer of Chaos (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1380002&prodId=prod1050001)
Mounted Chaos Sorcerer (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=&prodId=prod1130362)

16 Chaos Marauders
5 Chaos Marauder Horsemen
5 Chaos Marauder Horsemen
5 Chaos Marauder Horsemen
10 Chaos Warhounds

6 Chaos Knights
6 Chaos Knights
Chaos Chariot
Chaos Chariot (these will get new Chaos Warriors horses instead of the old ones)
10 Chaos Warriors Chosen
A yet unknown number of converted Dragon Ogres

Chaos Giant
Chaos Spawn
Chaos Spawn
Hellcannon of CHAOS (because I haven't typed the word often enough in this post)

So as you can see, this should keep me occupied for quite some time. So there's a LOT to do and actually, not that much time. Wish me luck.

26-01-2010, 14:59
Here's a bit of an update:



As you can see, the bases are mostly done, basecoat of Boltgun Metal has been applied.

26-01-2010, 15:07
Ya know sigur i'm starting to get the impresion you paint faster then me. And I mean that as a complament. Keep up the good work man.

26-01-2010, 15:43
Is that really Bolt Gun Metal? I only ask as it see incredibly shiny to me. Is it the photo, my eyes, or something else?

I'm interested in the metalwork, as I'm trying to find a decent way to do plain silvery type metal for my STank....

26-01-2010, 16:40
@Dino: Thanks a lot but I still think that I could be a lot faster. On the other hand, stuff always takes longer than I think, mainly basecoating and other steps that usually are dismissed as minor stuff.

@Crube: Just regular Boltgun Metal mixed with some water. Maybe the lamps make it look much shinier but it actually looks even a bit brighter in real life. Washes will fix that at an instant though. ;)

26-01-2010, 19:59
hmmmmmm...... maybe I need a new pot....

(in other news, I too have run out of superglue (although most of the last tube seems to be on my fingers, judging by the amount of things they stuck to) - Loctite is stronger than GW glue... seriously :)

28-01-2010, 11:46

That giant came out great.
I may get one, I just need a reason to use him in 40k.
A really big Ogryn Bone Head?

Crazy Harborc
28-01-2010, 23:39
Be still my heart!! The shinies are attacking.

Golly gee wiz! Why not glow in the dark paint? I do look forward to the updates on these guys.....Not going to predict out loud......But I am going to bet with myself what just might be the paint "theme" you will use.:D

29-01-2010, 14:08
@Crube: Sorry to hear about your superglue situation. I got new glue for me last night. No loctite this time, but UHU. Seems to work just as fine. I actually never worked with GW superglue because of the price and the product's bad reputation.

@Tommygun: Just wait, there's lots of new shinies coming up. As for the giant; I think it's safe to get one now and not be shunned by the whole Internet for buying unto the yucky plastic giant ads campaign in WD. ;) When in doubt, make him some ad mech abomination creature thing. The Ad Mech found a planet of a race of gigantic creatures (cheesy movie and pulp likterature refernce concerning GIANT AMAZON WOMEN FROM SPACE) and want to make them work for them or something. :p

@Crazy Harborc: Thanks. Well, yeah, the metal is pretty much the colour scheme. Given the fact that these are Chosen and a Lord and all, there will be some more copper-y metal too but I'll mainly stick with dark steel.

Alrighty, the new box of stuff arrived today and it had seriously interesting stuff.

So let's add to the list:
Dragon Ogres (converted, bottom half Dragon Ogres but the Ogre part replaced with Ogre Kingdom plastics)
Chaos Dragon (you'll LIKE this one)
Chaos Shrine (looks great as well)
a box of Chaos Warriors
a box of Chaos Knights.

As you can see, lots of stuff to do, not that much time, so I'll get to work. Picture updates tomorrow or later tonight. Seeya and have a good weekend everyone!

29-01-2010, 15:43
Chaos Dragon !!! I'm eager to see this one ! The Chaos Shrine looks interesting as well.

(Other than that you paint really well, I really like your marauders and your giant :) )

Crazy Harborc
30-01-2010, 00:35
A by the by.....GW very likely still doesn't "make" their brand named paints or glues. I am guessing they did/do get it from the cheapest bidder.;)

30-01-2010, 10:08
@Ancre: Thanks for your reply. The chaos dragon really will be something neat to look at, that I promise. :)

@Crazy Harborc: Yes, okay you petty Florissantine. :p Really makes one think about GW's margins in these things.

Alright, updates:





I found an interesting way to paint golden-ish metallics with great depth (which probably 10,000 others discovered before me). Unfortunately it translates horrendously to pictures so just imagine the gold looks better in real life, all highlighted with light source in mind and all that jazz.

Hope to post more updates tomorrow. :-)

30-01-2010, 10:14
Go on then ... spill the beans ... I am interested to know how you have painted both the gold and the silver.

Both look fantastic by the way

30-01-2010, 10:28
Go on then ... spill the beans ... I am interested to know how you have painted both the gold and the silver.

Both look fantastic by the way

I want to know too.
Also do you put additives in your paint like flow improver or retarders?

30-01-2010, 10:53
For the silver, it's just good old Boltgun Metal, drybrush with chainmail Black Wash (I'm using Vallejo black wash for these. It's a little grainier than GW's Badab Black Wash but doesn't take away the sheen of the metallics that much) with some dishwashing liquid thrown in, some final highlighting with mithril silver.

The Gold is Tin Bitz highlighted with gold (I use VGC Glorious Gold because I ran out of GW Gold or just can't find it) with some final highlights in Mithril Silver added in the end. I try to keep light sources and reflections in mind when highlighting the gold and don't mind harsh transistions between the different colours due to reflections on metallics work.

@Tommygun: Nay, I don't add anything but tab water. I got a pot of retarder a few years ago but never found any use for it. I guess it's nice to have when wetblending or using any similar fancy techniques but I just slap paint on mainly and never found drying times too problematic.

30-01-2010, 14:53
Nice work on the chaos guys. I did that same gold trick for a shrine of khaine once and I rather liked it. Also did the same for knights of the blazing sun but bronze instead of gold. Something I found worked will was washing the gold with devlun mud. Really mad it pop.

Crazy Harborc
30-01-2010, 18:04

They DO look good, darn good. The effect is (almost:evilgrin:) awsome. The bases are a big eye catcher for me. A hot foot can keep them moovinn.

Um.....should that standard have some...ooohh blood dripping OR a spare hand/arm just hanging around? A nice head collection maybe.

30-01-2010, 18:49
it's been a while since i've tuned in (getting ready for baby, and running a business does that!)
i have to say, the last thing i saw was your blood bowl team and i'm impressed and also very jealous that i can't even keep up with my own stuff like this.
one day, when i have enough money, i'm going to have to get you to do some commission work. you do such a great job and quickly!
the only thing i would worry about is the whole over seas part. feel up for a chaos dwarf blood bowl team?
he he

01-02-2010, 19:59
@Dino: Interesting. I know, finishing inks or glazes make stuff usually pop but Devlan Mud usually kinda kills metallics for me because it takes away the sheen totally. I'm considering using some ink though.

@Crazy Harborc: Just painting, no converting for now, sorry. ;-)

@dwarfhold13: Hey, good luck with that business and the baby. Sounds as close to life as one ever wants to get, hehe. I'd love to do a Chaos Dwarves BB team some time but at the moment I'm totally booked out with this huge chaos army, Space Marines, Greeks and such. Sorry. I hope to have time for more commissions again in summer. About the overseas part; I've never done any commissions for people from the U.S. (if that's what you were implying) but I guess shipping would be a bit more costly but reasonable.

Update time!

Not much new because ...I don't really know. The current big step is horns and I really don't enjoy painting curved horns much so I guess I'm trying to avoid that.

Lord on horsedaemon:






Hope you like everything so far, will try to proceed quickly. The loads of stuff I still have to paint for the chaos army is smothering my motivation a bit at the moment but I'll hang in.

01-02-2010, 20:11
Wow, those Hoplites look amazing!

Excellent metals on the chaos guys, too - and good luck with the horns. I love the lava bases.

01-02-2010, 20:14
Amazing as always - love where you are taking the Chosen.
And those Hoplites are beyond impressive... surely you have lost a few sanity-points doing the lot, huh?

01-02-2010, 20:32
Wow, 400 (the sequel to 300? :p) very good looking Hoplites!
WoCs are also spiffy looking, the new gold recipe seems to be a keeper. :)

01-02-2010, 21:46
really cool chosen and lord, the metals look fantastic

01-02-2010, 21:56
Awesome Chaos. I was thinking of redoing the color on my base from black to the darkest brown I could find. I was thinking that it would frame up the models better since there is so much dark metal on them, kind of like yours. Something to think about.

01-02-2010, 23:44
Are there 300 Hoplites?

02-02-2010, 11:22
Thanks for the replies. :)

@McMullet: Thank you for your reply.

@Aulbath: The best thing - there's still more to do!

@Gargobot: Thanks. It's 384 in the picture plus two more units that are half-finished...so it's a lot. :p

@Weemo: Cheers.

@mdiscala: Are you suggesting the brown for the outer borders of the bases or replacing the grey allaround? I guess I'll stick with the grey; the client likes it and client is king. :angel:

@Tommygun: Yes, and amongst them is Waldo. :p

Alright, back to painting. Got the two Sorcerors based last night because it's rather easy to pull off and makes more stuff look halfway done.

02-02-2010, 21:54
@Aulbath: The best thing - there's still more to do!

It seems quite daunting, actually.
However, anything you have touched in that army turned AWESOME (yes, all capitals) so, just keep going on.

Out of curiosity, what painting level are these? Is this showcase or very good tabletop standard?

04-02-2010, 02:39
That is one heckovalota hoplites! Looking good on the little guy front. The chaos is coming along nicely now that some color has been added in, they were in your face shiny to begin but are settling in to a nicely chaotic place now. Keep up the good work!

04-02-2010, 22:03
@Alubath: Thanks a lot. About the painting level; hard to tell, I'm pretty sure it's very high tabletop level but these things are hard to quantify precisely as you know. I'd call this "paint them like they were my own" which means that I put a lot of effort into them and just want to make them look pleasing to me (within the parameters the client sat before of course).

@jdp: Cheers. I painted up some more little guys.

But first; chaos update!

To be honest, I'm not sure I did anything on the Chosen apart from painting tiny little eyes onto the champions' mutated arm but anyway.

The general (sorry, he's a Lord actually but I keep on calling him General):



These sorcerers are built, primed and based as you can see. I'm currently fiddling around with colourschemes:


04-02-2010, 22:07
As I wrote earlier, I painted some more little guys. I sat myself a deadline; the 15th of this month. Until then, I want them to be finished. Here's a unit of archers and a unit of dudes with sticks:


Coming up next: Horse-mounted dudes with hats, horse-mounted armoured dudes and three leaders.

Hope you like everything so far, I'll try to proceed faster now.

05-02-2010, 00:43
Very nice Chosen, I approve.


05-02-2010, 01:05
@ironduke: Cheers.

A bit of an update on the smaller sorcerer:



I'm pretty pleased how the fur on the back came out. Furs usually are a bit of a problem to get right.

05-02-2010, 01:25
It does look good.
Even at this point it already looks better than the painted example on the GW web site.
By the way, the bases look like a good place to avoid a damp cold winter.

05-02-2010, 01:35
Woah, thanks for the massive compliment. ;) My version as it is now is just very much toned done in terms of palette I guess. I chose to do so because this guy seems like he's a lvl1 or 2 shaman of some marauders tribe. He looks very feral, cowering and beast-like. Especially next to the other sorcerer in this army who looks huge compared to him, completely unarmoured and howling/attention-seeking.

So the other dude probably will sport some more gaudy colours while I try to keep this guy quite simple and naturalistic in terms of colours.

05-02-2010, 06:44
The fur looks fantastic, the whole chaos army is looking sweet.


05-02-2010, 18:48
@lorcan: Thankee, Sire!

Update - Sorcerer finished:







05-02-2010, 19:22
DUDE! I am in love with that "Shaman"... he is perfect! All those little details give him so much personality... good thing, I have one of these laying around for my army unpainted as of yet... I will TOTALLY STEAL your ideas XD

Damn this plog is getting greater with each new update...

06-02-2010, 01:21
@Alubath: Thanks for the comment. :) Feel free to copy; I don't think I did anything really innovative anyway. Your last sentence might make it into my sig actually.

Threw some paint at the bigger sorcerer:



As I said, I want this guy to look flamboyant, yet dark. So I went for a muted cloak on the outside with some craziness going on on the inside. But now I'm a little stuck. If I give his inner robes the same or a similar pattern as the inside of the cloak, he'll look like crazy aunt Lilly in her new summer dress. So I either give him a plain robe underneath with some runes or something or...I don't know, I'll have to work something out. Also note how I made a mistake and highlighted and shaded the back of his robe as if it was part of the horse barding...:rolleyes:

06-02-2010, 02:27
Just do a fancy runic or detailed hem on his inner robes. Keeps the bulk of it plain to avoid the floral dress syndrome but adds some interest still.

06-02-2010, 13:42
@Catferret: Thanks for the suggestion. Seems to work out well.



Whaddaya think, Sirs?

edit: Woah, 1000th post in here!