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Minister
19-11-2006, 17:35
Given the lack of articles for the Specialist Games, and given that Warseer can surely put together at least one or two per month if we club together, it seems a shame not to pool our resources. But where to put them? The official Specialist Games website has a shockingly low number of articles, and some decent submissions would remind them that we exist, but on the other hand Firebase is also hunting, and being the local effort it would seem sporting to chip in.

Of course, if we somehow manage to get vast amounts we could of course submit to both.

Opinions?

Anthony Case
19-11-2006, 18:08
My biggest problem with submitting articles to these publications is that once they've gone out the door there is no way to later update the article. To me it makes far more sense to create a sort of website database to house all the articles that can then be easily indexed, searched and freely updated by the authors when needed.

orangesm
19-11-2006, 18:21
Not to further dig a hole with Firebase editors for myself, but it appears that they have alot of articles already. I believe they have mentioned that they are already have people working on content for Issue 4, is there room for a steady stream of SG articles? AA worked on getting articles into the first issue, but are there any SG articles in issue 2? will there be in issue 3?

Would SG 'staff' be able to read through the articles we submit? If we produce an article for each system would they all get put into Fanatic Online? Would we want to produce at least one article per month? Are we capable of that?

Also what is that status of E-Zines like Incoming & Warp Rift?

My answer to the question of Firebase is that we as the SG community want to produce SG material for Firebase. That we want the articles to be seen along side the flag ship game, the goal is to get more people interested in the game - only our goal is not exactly the same as GW - we want more people to play the game with, not just purchase the game.

If we produce articles for FO the articles will be read by other players of SG games. Is a Mordhiem campaign put up on FO as valuable to the community as one published in a Fanatasy E-Zine, one that has the core game in it? Is the community content to just share ideas with itself? I argue that while it would be great to put things in FO, I do not think that will nessecarily help the community grow, which I think is a goal of many SG game players.

The various E-Zines out there we need to determine whether or not they still exist. These were great for those who sought them out, but we as a community once again run into the problem of wider viewing audience, other than those who already play the games and are interested.

So if Firebase is willing to run a constant stream of SG games I think this would be a best option. Failing that FO, but would want to know whether it will actually result in more articles.

But I think that Firebase's frequency and the editors desire to create a unified theme for each issue may make this difficult.

* I have now voted.

TKitch
20-11-2006, 02:31
I say "Other"

I'm submitting articles to both.

I was recently converting with AshC and co. and was made the Mordheim editor for Watchman.

I'm going to still submit some interesting things to SG, but at the same time, Watchman will get it, too. Why? If it gets published twice, who's it gonna harm? :)

Steve54
20-11-2006, 08:01
For epic articles I say submit them to Incoming - 100% epic publication that isn't going to be axed.

I wouldn't submit a thing to SG until they show they are willing to provide any support whatsoever to the games. The same goes for buying models - I have mulitiple huge armies but I will only buy now stuff independently until there is any support. I have tried the whole buy stuff to show support idea (IIRC initial sales were 400% above expected) as I have 25k of SM and 10k of IG both 99%from GW but that hasn't worked.

Darkseer
20-11-2006, 08:43
In response to your questions about FIREBASE, I’m happy to tell you that we are very interested in specialist games.

You are correct that issue 2 will not have much on specialist games. This is because AA sent me everything quite late in the production schedule so other articles took precedence. While I would have liked to include all the SG stuff, the designers would never get issue 2 complete in time if I did.

Just because I have people working on content for issue 4 does not mean that issue 3 is complete.

Specialist games do not have to be in keeping with the ‘theme’ of each issue and often provide a great alternative for people who are sick of reading about Orks.

So send your stuff FIREBASE's way! There's plenty of room.

firestorm40k
20-11-2006, 09:46
I'm with TKitch: depending upon who you think will gain most from the article, submit it appropriately. E.g. Ideas/house rules for new units/vessels to SG; guides about existing units/armies/fleets to Firebase.

malika
20-11-2006, 13:06
Ive been quite dissapointed with the Specialist Games, and well I think it would be better if we here focus our energy and talents on FIREBASE which might even grow bigger if we manage to get more and better material in there :)

CyberShadow
20-11-2006, 13:33
Also what is that status of E-Zines like Incoming & Warp Rift?

Incoming is still going strong. Warp Rift is currently on ice, as (coincidently) we simply didnt get the articles together for the next issue. Currently, we have very little, and require new articles, fleet building pictures, battle reports, artwork, fiction and cover picture.

Any submissions welcomed!

Dunr II
21-11-2006, 16:35
I personnelly think that Firebase is the best place to put SG articles, its a local effort and the more input to it the better it should become, I personnally was questioning myself on doing an article about collecting my first ever BFG fleet but realise that some people are already doing it:(

Dunr II

Romanus
21-11-2006, 16:56
I voted for firebase as its shaping up to be a great resource tool for both the main stream game and specialist game. I'm actually looking at submiting to FB the campaign that i'm running over christmes and incidently the production of the all, yes all the fleets (mainly to try and lift participation in the game in my area lol) that are going to take place in it.

Cheers, Rom

rkunisch
21-11-2006, 17:26
I also voted for Firebase as I see no benefit in the SG website. Personally I think that we do not really need it any more. So, if SG is able to publish new material on their own, fine, otherwise fan-made articles can be published anywhere.

Have fun,

Rolf.

Bombot
21-11-2006, 18:01
I would say Firebase as you might tempt non-SG players into trying the games. Do what GW used to do with White Dwarf before it turned crap.

ArtificerArmour
22-11-2006, 17:45
In response to your questions about FIREBASE, I’m happy to tell you that we are very interested in specialist games.

You are correct that issue 2 will not have much on specialist games. This is because AA sent me everything quite late in the production schedule so other articles took precedence. While I would have liked to include all the SG stuff, the designers would never get issue 2 complete in time if I did.



This is not the case as you had the epic articles in very early, you just decided to delay their addition until issue 3 due to the lack of necromunda articles in that issue. And also due to the necromunda zombie overload of issue 2. I've worked hard with my articles but, to be fair, there's an issue if theres only one person writing for 2 or 3 specialist games.

Again, I would like to mention that Firebase is open to all offers of 40K specialist games, so just PM me and we take it from there.

Palatine Katinka
16-01-2007, 01:04
If it gets posted on SG would you be given credit? Could you then lure more gamers here? Would they have a problem with you doing both?

orangesm
16-01-2007, 01:41
Yes the person who sends in material to Fanatic normally gets credit - their name with the article. Also a lot of the time they run competitions and publish the best three.

I will be interested to see how much SG material shows up Firebase 3. 7/18 of Firebase 1 was SG articles, 4 BFG and 3 Necromunda. FB 2 Had a single SG article for 15 total, Necromunda.

So while the average is 4 per issue with a total of 33 articles that is ~ 24% of all the articles, I am concerned that percentage will drop off considerable next issue.

Hena
16-01-2007, 03:41
I would like the to send articles to some places which regular 40k/fantasy battle players read them. Mainly as those who are in SG site, know the games already. But getting new people interested in the games means that people outside of them must get shown it as well. In this case the Firebase seems the best choice. But where there others ... sure send to them too. More exposure cannot do harm :D.