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LostTemplar
07-07-2005, 21:21
Well I've been searching about, but not to great effect. If someone woul be kind enougth to provide me with some Crimson Fists Background, or, a means to get it (Sites, Books, etc), I'd be very thankful.

My brother is aiming to create an army of them, so, I'd like him to get the paintings correct, as what hands get "crimson" and etc. We know that they accidentally blew themselves up, and that they hate orks (whom their accidental strike was probably aimed at). However, I'm more interested in the painting aspects. Any help?

Spacejens
07-07-2005, 21:32
The recently released Index Astartes IV has the Crimson Fists article. It is available from GW through both the online and the physical stores.

As for painting, they are a dark blue (darker than the Ultramarines). Their left hand is a rich crimson. On veteran sergeants (and higher ranks), both hands are red.

Captain Brown
07-07-2005, 21:53
Well if you want to look at some well painted Crimson Fists check out this site (http://www.quindia.com/studiogalleryfist.htm).

As for some background, the Crimson Fists are a second founding Chapter from the Imperial Fist gene seed. They were prominently featured in the Rogue Trader edition (and graced the front cover) of 40k and were one of the two forces in the demo game included in the original game (paper cut outs for the Battle of the Farm). It was during an Ork invasion of the Chapter's home world that a defence missile launched from the Fortress Monastery malfunctioned and blew the base to pieces. Only a small element of the Crimson Fists escaped led by Pedro Cantor to rebuild the Chapter after that disaster.

Hope that helps

Captain Brown

marv335
07-07-2005, 22:32
more cf goodness;
the first company is 128 members strong (in rememberance of the 128 marines that survived the rynns' world disaster.) the chapter master is always the captain of the first company. all members of the first company have both gloves painted crimson. all other marines only have the left glove painted.
the first company is also referred to as the crusading company.

angelspast
07-07-2005, 22:38
Well the IA white dwarf article covers most of the info you will need.

I'd also look at this nice army http://gt.us.games-workshop.com/Results_Coverage/LA/40K_armies/James_Bell/armygallery.htm

violenceha
08-07-2005, 00:36
they prefer coffin shaped shields

Eldacar
08-07-2005, 09:55
The Index Astartes article in the White Dwarf covered everything you should need. However, if you don't know which White Dwarf it was in (I know I don't), then go and get the new Index Astartes GW has released. It has everything on the Crimson Fists, plus everything on all the other Space Marine Legions (Loyalist and Traitor) and some other little gems of information as well (Tactical Dreadnought Armour, Battle of Macragge, etc).

charlie_c67
08-07-2005, 10:38
more cf goodness;
the first company is 128 members strong (in rememberance of the 128 marines that survived the rynns' world disaster.) the chapter master is always the captain of the first company. all members of the first company have both gloves painted crimson. all other marines only have the left glove painted.
the first company is also referred to as the crusading company.
Errr, since when?

marv335
09-07-2005, 23:14
since rogue trader. i've been playing crimson fists since then.
the crimson fists were the "showpiece" chapter. most of the marine based background revolves around them.
incedentaly the name of the chapter master at the time of the rynns world disaster was "Pedro Cantor"

Spooky
11-07-2005, 07:02
For more information on the Crimson Fists in novel form you only have to look to the recently released Black Library novel, Crimson Tears. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1844161609/qid=1121062102/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-9130172-8182231?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) Just click on the blue word there and it will link you to the book in question. Fair warning Crimson Tears is the third book in a series which is primarily dedicated to the Soul Drinkers a fellow successor chapter of the Imperial Fists that has gone rogue.

charlie_c67
11-07-2005, 13:30
since rogue trader. i've been playing crimson fists since then.
the crimson fists were the "showpiece" chapter. most of the marine based background revolves around them.
incedentaly the name of the chapter master at the time of the rynns world disaster was "Pedro Cantor"

I guessed that bit but what's the article/book?

Karhedron
11-07-2005, 14:19
I guessed that bit but what's the article/book?
There was an Index Astartes on the Crimson fists sometime around the Armageddon 3 campaign but I cannot remember which WD issue. It is reffered to as the Rynns world Incident and involved the destruction of their Fortess Monastary during an Ork invasion.

Interestingly, a totally separate piece of fluff implicated the Officio Assasinorum. Given that a freak sequence of failures was involved in the incident, it might be the work of the Vanus temple who are supposed to specialise in sabotage.

Here is a link to the IA article.

http://redelf.h1.ru/w40k/ia/w40k_ia_crimson.html

Flame Boy
11-07-2005, 19:38
From what I've recovered from some sites ( http://members.aol.com/ccauldwell/ashhammer/alcove.htm in particular) It was a crusade that resulted in the 128 marine first company tradition, rather than Rynn's World Survivors.


Finally, after breaking the four-century long rebel siege of Barenthal on Excelsiva II, Chapter Master Kordova declared the Crusade of Righteous Liberation to have ended. Only one hundred and twenty eight Space Marines were left and ever since then, the numbers of the Chapter's First Company has always been kept at one hundred and twenty eight warriors, and its Captain is also always the Chapter Master. They are known amongst the Crimson Fists as the Crusade Company, and it is considered a bad omen if the Chapter goes to war without the Company being at full strength.

I apologise if there is a problem with this quoted reference, feel free to remove it if there is an issue with this text being quoted here.

charlie_c67
12-07-2005, 12:44
Well Karhedron's provided the link to the article I knew about, and there it talks about the Rynns world survivors being less than a company and how it was struggling to get everything re-started.

However the stuff on ashHammers site looks very like fanfluff, things like the exorcists being unorthodox and not liking the CF's cos they're "lapdogs of Adeptus Terra"...well, yeah the exorcists are unorthodox, but they're controlled pretty much by the Ordo Malleus cos of the daemon possesion. Also the Space wolves and white scars wouldn't get upset by the irradication of a traitor chapter, quite the opposite in fact. Things like that suggest no "official" basis.

Bauglir
12-07-2005, 13:11
Look at me! Look at my site!

http://www.cfist.tk/

It's halfway decent.

charlie_c67
12-07-2005, 13:21
The 1999 games day program hmmm? That doesn't seem to fit with other fluff I've read before that date!