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MorningStar
09-07-2005, 06:58
Been reading through my Index Astartes recently and I asked myself, does the chapter master, librarians, chaplains, and so forth do they go through the same daily rituals as a regular marine? I mean just being my experience in the military the higher ups never do what the grunt does. Would really like to hear everyones opinion.

Randallw
09-07-2005, 07:29
They'd keep in practice I assume, but no I don't think they have to follow the same schedule as the normal marines. The Chapter Master has more important things to do, the Librarians are busy in the Librarium and the Chaplains have a Reclusiam to run.

Gavmo
09-07-2005, 07:31
I've been thinking about this stuff too, but more about the Techmarine's and Apothacary's and such. Where would they find the time to have a day long battle and study? Sure, they could be doing on the job training, but what about the bookwork that they need to do?

Randallw
09-07-2005, 07:38
Well those marines deemed proficient in the ancient secrets of technology go off to college on Mars for a few years till they get their degree in Physics (applied technology) then they return to their chapter :) . Don't know about Apothecaries.

Delicious Soy
09-07-2005, 07:51
I think Apothecaries are trained in house, in the daily rituals bit at the end of the orginal 3rd ed codex it mentions that the apprentice Techmarines and Apothecaries usually practice their craft after the evening meal, leaving 3 hours a day for them to hone their skills. Given the abilities of a Space Marine's brain, they'd probably be able to learn fairly quickly.

Eldacar
09-07-2005, 08:33
Chapter Masters would keep in practice, but they've already reached the pinnacle of their abilities, so they don't need to be any better.

The others have 3 hours each day to practice their special abilities. Librarians, due to the nature of their job, would, IMO, get longer to practice.

brian
09-07-2005, 10:22
Keep in mind that space marines are warrior monks. While each chapter has their own rituals, I suspect that each of them involves daily rituals of prayer, meditation, and devotion to ingrain their loyalty to the empire and the emperor that take up much of each day, when they're not in the field. Very much like medieval monastic orders, I've always imagined space marines filing into chapels and temples to intone the daily offices at proscribed times, creating a cycle of ritual that strengthens the marines' faith and guides them through their days.

rottin' daniel
09-07-2005, 14:52
try this mate:
http://www.redelf.h1.ru/w40k/ia/w40k_ia_dr.html

Delicious Soy
09-07-2005, 15:19
I'm not sure if that's entirely legal.

TenTailedCat
09-07-2005, 15:21
That's exactly the same as in the old codex, I don't see how there could be a problem.

Lord-Warlock
09-07-2005, 16:28
It's a violation of GW's copyright?

Khaine's Messenger
09-07-2005, 17:54
For those who want to see it on GW's website~dail yrituals (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/extras/dailyrituals/dailyrituals.htm). :eyebrows:

Still, even that "daily ritual" thing is just a baseline for Joe Marine, not for anyone else. Commanders and Chappies and such have extra duties and many, many extra formalities they must undergo (probably just to get into their office, whereupon they dive with a heavy sigh into a pile of paperwork that make their scrivener servitors want to cry).

MorningStar
09-07-2005, 19:51
Still, even that "daily ritual" thing is just a baseline for Joe Marine, not for anyone else. Commanders and Chappies and such have extra duties and many, many extra formalities they must undergo (probably just to get into their office, whereupon they dive with a heavy sigh into a pile of paperwork that make their scrivener servitors want to cry).

Makes alot of sense, the military hasn't changed in thousands of years. I am sure even the mighty space marines are haunted by the evils of paper work. Was also considering those rituals could be for Initiates, considering an average battle brother probably wouldn't run on a 24 hours day, with things such as guard duty or purging enemies of the emperor.

Eldacar
10-07-2005, 00:45
Paperwork would just be done on computer (as in, no actual paper at all, I think, so it would be a lot quicker than signing stacks and stacks of orders.

And the redelf site is Russian, I think, so there is no illegality there. I think, I very well might be wrong.

Gavmo
10-07-2005, 14:23
You know those gothic pictures of those dudes with cyber-ink pens instead of hands? They're the poor fellas that have to the paperwork.
Personally, i'd hate to be the guy whose job it was to help those guys without hands "clean up" after going to the bathroom...
Also a lot of the logistical responsibilites are taken care of by marines who are getting on in years. They're basically retired. Well, as retired as a Space Marine can get.

Minister
10-07-2005, 14:40
the majority of the admin would be taken on by chapter serfs, particularly among those chapters who recruit from (at best) semi-litterate barbarians (I'm looking at you, Space Wolves). Some may even recruit from off-world for some of the more technical jobs.

Gavmo
11-07-2005, 04:35
A lot of the support roles are filled by the guys who, for some reason, didnt become a space marine. eg; gene seed failure or a rejected organ. They then become the serfs.

Emperor's Light
11-07-2005, 05:03
Considering the additional duties of specialists and officers, it seems the answer is definitely "no." But given that Roboute Guilliman was control freak, I'm sure he has laid out the day's acitivities for them, too.

As for paperwork, although chapter serfs can handle the routine trivial stuff (procuring basic supplies and such), some things like duty rosters and would be handled by higher ups...probably sergeants. Captains probably just sit in their office and shine their medals. :D

orangesm
11-07-2005, 06:16
Here are some of my guesses

Sergeants - ensures squad attends to its duties like weapon maintance, imperial doctrine readings, immediate punishments and discipline, etc. Thus he particaptes in everything his squad does and does a little more work in the few spare moments he may have.

Captain - ensures Sergs are doing what they are suppose to and ensuring the Company has everything it needs for battle, like does it have enough Rhinos, Landspeeders, Bikes, etc to conduct a successful campaign against the enemy (basic deployed unit of space marines is roughly company size), then in addition study previous conflicts and what the Codex Astrates says on handling a situation. A Captain will more than likely particapte in one of the combat training exercises in a day and inspect the others while also studying larger strategy concepts and doing some paper work - most likely dictation to a servitor and reading summaries of documents and reading the important ones in more detail.

Chapter Master - the same as a Chaptain only in regards to the whole chapter and the more important assets.

Librarians, Chaplains, and Techmarines - more than likey they skip one/two of the training events each day and attend to their other duties/training and then skip another set of training events the next day. This is to varying degrees per speciality. A techmarine is may be on the training field during an exercise actually repairing vehicles damaged while particapting. A librarian is more likely to be honing his skills in a protected room, and then particapting in a battle seperately using what his battle brothers have to use. The Chaplain may not have to even have to attend to seperate duties instead conducting his battle duties along side his brothers while they train in exercises.

Just a few thoughts.

Randallw
11-07-2005, 13:06
Considering the additional duties of specialists and officers, it seems the answer is definitely "no." But given that Roboute Guilliman was control freak, I'm sure he has laid out the day's acitivities for them, too.

Reading this I can't help but think how the codex sets out office work, typing training schedules and official correspondence.

"When doing the Emperor's holy office work a marine is to take a 5 minute break each hour to stretch" :D

TenTailedCat
11-07-2005, 13:22
Just got me thinking about the Serfs. Could you live with yourself if, after coming so close to being a marine, you get bumped down to paper-work or polishing armour?

I'd probably turn to Chaos :P

orangesm
11-07-2005, 16:38
The serfs have quiet a bit of doctrination into the chapter, they may have failed the process but in alot of cases this is the second thing to being a marine, being their squires, etc. Serfs go the way of the chapter.