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Rictus
14-12-2006, 23:02
I have taken a short sabbatical from my Terrain building (see sig), decided a break will allow me to get back to it with renewed enthusiasm and a fresh outlook. Anyway for a break I got back to one of my favourite subjects to work on - tanks. These were started a number of months ago but not finished.

First up a Griffon:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Griffon/griffon1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Griffon/griffom2.jpg

This was an ebay buy, I stipped the paint off and took some of it apart. Unfortunately I wasn't able to completely take it apart and rebuild it (it wasn't the best built hull around). I have given it a new platform with rail and a couple of crewmen. Still alot to do though, needs chain, details, magnetise the second crewman, possibly add a shield (good idea? bad idea?).

Next up a Hellhound which did make a breif apearance in the treadhead thread. Never liked the stock GW kit, especially the barrels on the rear so I stripped the paint off (another ebay buy) took most of it apart and rebuild the entire back half of the hull. Added some plasticard to the front, made up some extra armour side skirts. I was originally going to keep the turret as stock but after much complaining from others I am in the middle of changing it.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound2.jpg

more in next post...

Rictus
14-12-2006, 23:05
And more...
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound3.jpg
The original turret in place...
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/sidewip.jpg

They are not finished (far from it) so any input or suggestions would be very welcome. I will tick some more Traitor vehicles on here for input as well as I take them out of the box and work on them.

NOTE: they are very lacking in chaos icons etc this is because I am waiting to see what kits FW come out with for their traitor range (I have already ordered some of the traitor kits...lovely).

howie
14-12-2006, 23:17
i like the look of them both they both look seriusly great and well worth a good looting

Wolf Scout Ewan
14-12-2006, 23:22
Good job so far rictus!

Melchor
14-12-2006, 23:44
Luverly! I'm adding this to my archive of cool ideas.

You wouldn't happen to have any templates of the extra armour would you? ;)

Quin 242
14-12-2006, 23:45
Dunno.. I was feeling the old school pred turret more than the stock Hellhound turret. I was thinking that for my next one :) But with the nozzle from a Sentinal heavy flamer for the barrel.

Rictus
15-12-2006, 00:05
Thanks for the feedback.

howie: thanks, feel free to loot away...

Wolf Scout Ewan: thanks, I think doing the Griffon was just another excuse to use some more treadplate.

Melchor: I didn't make templates but it would be a simple job to measure up the ones I have made. I will try and do something over the next couple of days.

Quin 242: When I first started showing the Hellhound someone suggested the old pred turret so I managed to pick an old Chaos pred off ebay cheaply (just for the turret). I bought a FW Siege Dread arm for the nozzle, just trying to bring the different parts together now. Hopefully tomorrow I should be able to mate them in some freakish way.

Anybody want another Traitor vehicle? To avoid the embaressment of nobody saying yes I am just going to pretend I heard a 'Yes' so here is my Demolisher. Once again it did make an appearance in the Treadhead thread some time ago. I need to do afew more detailing on it.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Demolisher/sidewip.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Demolisher/P8200143.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Demolisher/P8200147.jpg

It is really just a turret I have done as the body is basically a stock model. I forgot to order the demolisher cannon parts from GW so decided to do my own (I don't like the stock model anyway so I think I forgot on purpose).

Comments, suggestions and financial donations always welcome.

Melchor
15-12-2006, 00:34
Ooh... Nice Demolisher you've got there (was that just me, or did that sound a bit dirty?)

I'm not a fan of the GW made demolisher either, and your rendition of the beast seems to do the trick quite nicely. Consider it stored for later use alongside the extra armour. ;)

nathonicus
15-12-2006, 00:37
Nice use of the dreg as vehicle crew. Your vehicles are just as cool as your terrain. Only thing I'll nitpick is the back panel of the Chimera. The right side is just a little too plain jane for me. I'd like to see some more depth there.

Excellent work.

Lord Hjamlar
15-12-2006, 00:39
They all look really nice, except that keeping flamer ammo and petrol on the sided of Extra Armour is IMO just stupid...

sheep
15-12-2006, 03:36
very nice, what did you use for the demoliser barrel? looks like some kind of pen piece.

Cheers

Sheep

Hideous Loon
15-12-2006, 09:57
Hjamlar, what are you talking about? Stupid? 40K knows of no such thing!

I agree with you though, it seems foolish to have essentially bombs on the side of a tank, outside the extra armour. Foolery, I say!

Melchor
15-12-2006, 10:08
They all look really nice, except that keeping flamer ammo and petrol on the sided of Extra Armour is IMO just stupid...

Still, I'd rather have it burn on the outside of my tank than on the inside... :rolleyes:

asmodai_dark86
15-12-2006, 13:48
If you can get hold of some sisters of battle immolator heavy flammers to replace with that chunky metal one I think it'd be perfect

The boyz
15-12-2006, 15:05
Those are some nice looking vehicles Rictus, good conversion work, nice work with the plasticard aswell. I especially like the Griffon, with the extended crew standing area. I also like the turret for the Demolisher.

Darkseer
15-12-2006, 18:04
I'd remove the mortar from the griffon and replace it with the chaos hellcannon :D

The Iron Duke
15-12-2006, 18:14
Lovely stuff. They look kind of sterile at the moment, but I guess they'll get more Chaosy in time. I really like the demolisher - it's a lot better than GW's current one.

The hellcannon instead of the mortar would be pretty cool.

Rictus
15-12-2006, 18:18
Darseer: Waaaaay ahead of you there....
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Iron%20Warriors/Deamon%20Engine/MedusaFrontAngle.jpg

Lord Hjamlar: It did occur to me after I added the stowage that it probably wasn't a sensible idea to have them there, the thought of a squad advancing only to be doused in flaming promethium due to small arms fire probably wasn't a good tactical move. But then I though 'screw it, they're Khorne traitors, who would care'. After all Khorne does not care where the skulls come from as long as they come.

asmodai_dark86: As I said I have already got something for the weapon on the Hellhound. Hopefully pics will follow tonight.

sheep: funnily enough you are right. I used to of these with one of them cut down. They are from a large Berol felt tip pen.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Demolisher/P8280121.jpg

The Iron Duke
15-12-2006, 18:42
Ooo that looks really nice. I like how these are shaping up, esp with all the spikes and such. One thing - where will the crew go? Maybe it's the photo but I can't see much room for them.

Voronwe[MQ]
15-12-2006, 19:04
Excellent armoured vehicles you've got there, Rictus!

Though I'd rather put the Hellcannon in the back of a Leman Russ hull. :D

Voronwe

Rictus
15-12-2006, 19:14
Ooo that looks really nice. I like how these are shaping up, esp with all the spikes and such. One thing - where will the crew go? Maybe it's the photo but I can't see much room for them.


;1149388']Excellent armoured vehicles you've got there, Rictus!

Though I'd rather put the Hellcannon in the back of a Leman Russ hull. :D

Voronwe

Technically the Hellcannon conversion shouldn't be in this thread as it is part of my IW army rather than my Traitors. In game terms it is a Damonically Possessed Medusa Seige Gun, being a possessed vehicle it doesn't need any crew.

In fact I really should start a new thread for my IW conversions....

Darkseer
15-12-2006, 19:20
Very nice indeed :)

Rictus
15-12-2006, 23:08
The Hellhound has a turret, of sorts. Not sure about it completely and it still needs a lot of work, plasticard plating, cables maybe, stowage and rivets. Turned out longer than originally intended. Still may pull it apart and have another go.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhoundturret.jpg

Hmmm, still not sure.

Melchor
15-12-2006, 23:15
The turret does look a little long.
Maybe you can cut out the tube between the nozzle and the 'base' of the gun (the part that's fitted to the turret) to fix that.

I like the concept though. What parts did you use? I see some IG heavy weapon squad bits in there I think. And the flamer nozzle is from the Sentinel HF?

Rictus
15-12-2006, 23:43
The turret does look a little long.
Maybe you can cut out the tube between the nozzle and the 'base' of the gun (the part that's fitted to the turret) to fix that.

I like the concept though. What parts did you use? I see some IG heavy weapon squad bits in there I think. And the flamer nozzle is from the Sentinel HF?

The turret has three parts (not including plasticard and GS), the turret body is the classic predator turret, then there is a part from the new autocannon predator turret then the nozzle itself is the FW Siege Dreadnought Immolator arm.

I think it could do with being shorter but I don't want to take the length out of the weapon as I like the look of it (plus cutting up FW stuff just seems sacrileges), it is the length of the turret and the pred bit in the middle that doesn't look right. I may end up building a turret from scratch.

Getz
15-12-2006, 23:54
The metal Turret looks fine. You just need to rethink the Mantle IMHO. It's too sharp and angular for what is a somewhat rounded and lumpy turret.

Perhaps this (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e222/Dakkagor/WIP/WIPwagon.jpg) is of help... It's a similar metal Pred Turret I converted up for Dakkagor. Perhaps it'll give you some other ideas.

Still learning
16-12-2006, 00:24
I rekon the new turret looks better than the old one. stands out more, But if you really damage the old one up, I looks better. In the Australian WD, these a pic of a traitor hellhound. Dunno if you've seen if but i uses the old turret and is all damaged up and looks ace.

EmperorsChamp01
16-12-2006, 08:13
I like the new hellhound turret that you got there. Its alittle Beeffy but its a Beefy gun.

Thargrund
16-12-2006, 12:15
wow, that hellcannon coversion is just awesome!

Voronwe[MQ]
16-12-2006, 12:18
Technically the Hellcannon conversion shouldn't be in this thread as it is part of my IW army rather than my Traitors. In game terms it is a Damonically Possessed Medusa Seige Gun, being a possessed vehicle it doesn't need any crew.

In fact I really should start a new thread for my IW conversions....

That's what I hoped you should do when I first saw them. ;)

The Hellhound needs... something to counter-balance the long flamer. Perhaps something on the sides and back of the turret?

Voronwe

Rictus
16-12-2006, 14:01
Getz: You are right about the mantle, it just doesn't fit. I am thinking of trying to do a new one out of plasticard based on the FW artemia or 'the other one I can't remember the name of' turret.

Still learning: I didn't really have a problem with the old turret, just the weapon itself which just sucks. I am interested in the Traitor Hellhound you mentioned but I don't get the Aus WD (live in UK and I do't even get the UK WD). I'm not sure in the current Ashes climate I could face trying to get hold of the Aus WD either....I'm currently trying to avoid the two Aussies we have at work....

Voronwe[MQ]: The turret will get some stowage to the rear but I don't want to add too much or the turret will start too look way too big.

Anyway I am going to try and knock up a new turret in plasticard and see what it looks like. I can come back to this incarnation and look at changing it if the new one doesn't work.

firestorm40k
16-12-2006, 15:57
Excellent tanks, really inspired conversions! :cool:

Voronwe[MQ]
16-12-2006, 16:03
Ah, Getz nailed the main problem down: the mantle. It looks nice, but the turret is rounded. Redo it and add something at the rear of the turret and everything'll be solved, I believe. Don't follow my tip and make it too big, for the God-Emperor's sake! :)

Voronwe

Rictus
18-12-2006, 23:18
Excellent tanks, really inspired conversions! :cool:

Thanks!

Didn't get anywhere near as much done over the weekend as I intended but I have made a start on a new turret for the hellhound. It is mainly held together with blutac but you can see what it will look like. Many details to add, plus GS in areas. Also need to do something to attach the turret to the hull.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/turretmk3.jpg

Comments, suggestion etc welcome. Basically is it better than the last version?

But that is not the end of the post. Also got a piture of another LatD tank. Very easy and quick conversion using a couple of spare IG autocannon. I did it some time ago actually but it certainly wasn't the first one that would of been built like this.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Russ%20and%20Exterminator/ExterminatorTurret.jpg

Getz
18-12-2006, 23:27
Comments, suggestion etc welcome. Basically is it better than the last version?


In short, yes.

As to getting it to sit on the hull. If you install the turret baseplate upside down and slightly enlarge the interior dimensions of the turret ring, it should fit onto the lug on top of the Chimera hull pretty much perfectly.

Gen_eV
18-12-2006, 23:44
One small suggestion for the Exterminator-if you've got 'em going spare, have you thought about using one the HW Sprue Heavy Bolters on your tank? Just seems it would work especially well on that one, what with it having 'modern' autocannons already.

Voronwe[MQ]
19-12-2006, 13:54
Very good Exterminator.

Voronwe

Rictus
20-12-2006, 00:07
One small suggestion for the Exterminator-if you've got 'em going spare, have you thought about using one the HW Sprue Heavy Bolters on your tank? Just seems it would work especially well on that one, what with it having 'modern' autocannons already.
Unfortunately I haven't got enough Heavy Bolters to replace them all, I used my left over heavy bolters on some Chimera turrets so they went to a good home.

Another quiet night model wise but I did go back to the griffon to magnetise the second crewman and I decided to replace the first crewmans knife with a whip (for motivational purposes it seemed to fit).

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Griffon/griffoncrew.jpg

Getz: I really should of thought of that as it is what I did to get the Predator turret to fit on my command chimera.

BobbJoe
20-12-2006, 01:58
looking neat!

Rictus
21-12-2006, 00:21
While I had other models out I took a couple of quick photos of converted chimera turrets in my LatD force:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Chimeras/autocannonturret.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Chimeras/hvybolterturret.jpg

The heavy bolter turret needs an ejection port putting on the one side, not sure how to do that yet.

C&C welcome.

speedygogo
21-12-2006, 00:24
They look cool already. I can't wait to see them painted.

Getz
21-12-2006, 00:35
I've done a very similar Autocannon turret myself - Only difference, I cut the muzzle brake off and turned it through ninety degrees, like so;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Guard/DSCN0088.jpg

I think you'll agree it's well worth the small amount of effort required...

Rictus
21-12-2006, 00:43
I've done a very similar Autocannon turret myself - Only difference, I cut the muzzel brake off and turned it through ninety degrees, like so;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/Getz/Guard/DSCN0088.jpg

I think you'll agree it's well worth the small amount of effort required...

Actually I would have to agree with you there. Damn, another job added to the 'to do' list. I also like the use of the track guard.

speedygogo: thanks, though I fear you will have to wait a while for any paint to appear.

Rictus
22-12-2006, 20:53
Hellhound turret is finished (though I need to remove one of the extra armour plates and re-glue it as it moved before the glue set). Piccies....
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound2212a.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound2212b.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound2212c.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c80/squirrelnation/Lost%20and%20the%20Damned/Hellhound/hellhound2212d.jpg

I am tempted to make the weapon longer though i'm not certain.

Let me know what you think.

Gen_eV
22-12-2006, 21:49
Personally, I think the Inferno Cannon looks a little spindly. Just about within the bounds of looking good, though. Any longer and it'll start looking really feeble, at least in pictures. Might be a different case altogether when the models on the table in front of you.

Getz
23-12-2006, 01:39
I think it looks awesome...

FearFrost
23-12-2006, 01:56
I think it looks pretty perfect.

Probably a good idea putting the tanks on the outside...If they go off they just scorch whatever jerk is trying to assault it ;)

Rictus
23-12-2006, 20:48
Thanks for the feedback.

For now these vehicles are going to stay as is. They severely lack chaotic detail (icons etc) but I don't want to start anything on them until FW finish bringing out their Traitor kits (i'm hoping for bits I can use on these). I also picked up six sentinels off ebay to joint the traitorous ranks which need to convert (extra armour, weapon swaps etc) I may start tackling them soon after I strip them of paint. So this thread shouldn't die completely as I will be coming back to tackle new vehicles and finish the others off.