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Astromarine
17-12-2006, 20:44
You will all hate this project log. I can almost guarantee it. I will be late with updates, spend months without any news, and to top it all off my skills are pretty crap. I tried this log thing before, but it was for a specific army, and I (of course) dropped it after a few weeks. Sorry to the people that followed it.

Anyway, why am I making it then? Basically, for myself. I decided last week to do a detailed and exhaustive inventory of all the miniatures I have, and since there were so many I thought I'd make ONE thread where I could keep updated the status of all my projects. All I promise is, whenever I do work on my stuff, I'll post it here. Looking at how much of it there is, this thread will probably outlast Warseer (don't worry, I'll keep a local copy ;))

As I said, this is supposed to be a full log of all the painting, assembling, etc that I do. If I assemble 5 marines, I'll post it here. If I finish the final touches on a Golden Daemon entry, I'll post it here. Therefore, some updates may be quite boring to you :D You have been warned.

I'll start off with listing what I have recorded so far from my inventory, then I'll update when I'm finished. After that, it's off to finally start painting. It will be a while. I have A WHOLE DAMN LOT of stuff. I think I'm worse off than Deadley when he started.

Anyway, here's what I have. As usual, Red is for not started, yellow is for in progress, green is for completed:

High Elves:
Lords and Heroes
1 Tyrion
1 Lord on Dragon
1 Army Standard Bearer on Horse
1 Hero with Great Weapon and Bow
1 Archmage
1 Mage
1 Mage on Horse
1 Mage on Horse
1 Lord on Horse
1 Army Standard Bearer
War Machines & Vehicles
1 Tiranoc Chariot
1 Lion Chariot
2 Repeater Bolt Throwers
Units
2 Giant Eagles
16 Archers with Full Command
16 Archers with Full Command
20 Spearmen with Full Command
20 Spearmen with Full Command
15 Phoenix Guard
10 Swordmasters
5 Shadow Warriors
5 Shadow Warriors
7 Dragon Princes with Full Command
8 Silver Helms with Full Command
8 Silver Helms with Full Command
13 White Lions

Dark Elves:
20 Warriors
24 Crossbowmen
20 Plastic Corsairs
5 Cold One Knights
5 Cold One Knights
2 Reaper Bolt Throwers
1 Hydra
8 Dark Riders with Full Command
8 Dark Riders with Full Command
1 Dreadlord with hand weapon and Shield (topknot)
1 Dreadlord on Cold One
5 Harpies
5 Harpies
1 Lokhir Fellheart
1 Assassin
1 Supreme Sorceress on foot (swirly)
1 Sorceress on Cold One (new)
1 Sorceress on foot (come hither)
1 Sorceress on Cold One (old)
13 Shades
13 Executioners with Full Command
13 Black Guard with Full Command
1 Morathi on Dark Pegasus
10 Witches with Full Command
1 Cauldron of Blood
1 BeastMaster on Manticore

Dwarfs:
War Machines
1 Gyrocopter
1 Plastic Organ Gun
2 Metal Cannons
1 Metal Organ Gun
1 Flame Cannon
2 Old Metal Bolt Throwers
2 New Metal Bolt Throwers
1 Old Stone Thrower
1 New Grudge Thrower - YAAAAAY!
Characters
1 Thorgrim Grudgebearer on Throne
1 Thorek Ironbrow
6 different Lords, 1 of which on Shield Bearers
1 Standard Bearer
6 Master Engineers
3 Runesmiths
1 White Dwarf
3 Bugmans, one of which on barrels
Units
14 Long Drong's Slayer Pirates
2 units of 12 metal Thunderers with Full Command
22 Hammerers with Full Command
20 Slayers
26 metal Longbeards with Full Command
20 Miners with Full Command
26 Ironbreakers with Full Command
2.5 Dwarf Warrior boxes
2 Plastic Dwarf Thunderers box
24 New-Style Plastic Warriors with Shields, Full Command
25 Old Plastic Warriors with Shields, Full Command
10 Old Plastic Crossbowmen with Shields
1 Ranger Command blister

Khemri:
3 Chariots
8 Skeleton Horsemen
32 Skeletons (to be done as archers or warriors)
Tomb King on foot
Tomb King on Chariot
2 Tomb Priests on foot
Tomb King on Skeleton Horse
Khalida
Bone Giant
3 Ushabti
1 Tomb Swarm
1 Mounted Tomb Priest
20 Tomb Guard
2 Tomb Kings Battalion Boxes

Lizardmen:
1 Box of Skinks

Tyranids:
Hive Tyrant
6 Warriors
4 Ripper Swarms
3 Raveners
1 Zoanthrope
1 Limited Ed. Lictor
8 Genestealers
32 Gaunts

Dark Angels:
2 Terminator Commanders
1 Terminator Librarian
1 Terminator Chaplain
1 Classic Terminator Captain
3 Deathwing Sargent
3 Deathwing with Cyclone Missile Launcher
2 Deathwing with Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
2 Deathwing with Lightning Claws
6 Deathwing with Storm Bolter and Chainfist
6 Deathwing with Assault Cannon and Power Fist
2 Deathwing with Heavy Flamer
5 Deathwing with Storm Bolter and Power Fist
1 Cypher
1 Techmarine with Servitors box
1 Plastic Space Marine Commander (a couple bits missing)
1 Master of the Ravenwing on Land Speeder
2 new Devastator Squad boxes (Hybrid with the kneeling legs)
1 Plastic Devastator Squad box
1 Plastic Command Squad box
1 Space Marine Veterans box
2 Plastic Attack Bikes
6 Bikes (3 Ravenwing, 3 normal)
1 Land Raider Commander
1 Forgeworld Venerable Dreadnought (AC + CCW)
1 Whirlwind
2 Predator Annihilator
1 Razorback with Heavy Bolter
2 Rhinos
1 Plastic Dreadnought
1 Old Techmarine with Servo Arm
1 Classic Dark Angels Captain
1 Classic Ultramarine Captain
1 Asmodai
1 Ezekiel
1 Azrael
1 Brother Bethor
1 Metal Dark Angel Dreadnought
1 Metal Ravenwing Landspeeder
2 Dark Angels Tactical Squad Boxes
1 Classic Librarian
1 Classic Chaplain
1 Librarian
2 DA Company Master
1 Limited Edition Dark Angel Veteran Sargent
2 Classic Veteran Sargents
4 Plasma Cannon Marines
1 Heavy Bolter Marine
1 Lascannon Marine
1 Combat Squad with Plasma Gun
10 Metal Robed Marines
1 Tactical Squad with Flamer, ML, and Powerfisted Sarge
5 Tactical Squad Boxes (3 old, 2 new)
25 Assault Marines
1 Scout Squad box
1 Assault Terminators box
1 Combat Squad box
3 Dark Angels Veterans box

Vostroyans
1 Chimera
1 Officer with Bolt Pistol and Chainsword
1 Vox Operator
1 Grenade Launcher
5 Lasgun Troopers
4 Snipers
6 Officers with Laspistol
1 Officer with Bolt Pistol and Chainsword
1 Standard Bearer
1 General
2 Lascannon Teams
2 Mortar Teams
2 Heavy Bolter Teams
3 Medics
2 Radio Operators
2 Grenade Launchers
4 Flamers
4 Plasma Gunners
31 Lasgun Troopers

Flames of War Soviet Strelkovy Batalon:
HQ Company :
Battalion HQ
1st Strelkovy Company :
2x Strelkovy Platoons
Add Komissar
Add HMG
Add Light Mortar
2nd Strelkovy Company :
2x Platoons
Add Komissar
Machine-gun Company :
3x Platoons
Tankovy Company :
9x T-70s
Artillery Battalion :
4x 76mm ZIS-3 guns
Add 2 Howitzer platoons
Add Komissar
Add Observer
Anti-tank Company :
3x 45mm obr 1942 platoons

Blood Bowl Dwarf Team:
6 Longbeards
2 Runners
2 Slayers
2 Blitzers

Blood Bowl Human Team:
6 Linemen
2 Throwers
4 Catchers
2 Blitzers

Warmachine Khador Battle Group:
1 Kommander Sorscha
1 Juggernaut Heavy Warjack
1 Destroyer Heavy Warjack

Warmachine Cygnar Battle Group:
1 Commander Coleman Stryker
1 Charger Light Warjack
1 Lancer Light Warjack
1 Ironclad Heavy Warjack

Warmachine Cryx Battle Group:
1 warwitch Deneghra
1 Slayer helljack
2 Deathripper bonejacks
1 Defiler bonejack.

Warmachine Menoth Battle Group:
1 High Exemplar Kreoss
1 Revenger Light Warjack
1 Repenter Light Warjack
1 Crusader Heavy Warjack

Aaaaand that's it. As soon as I finish cataloguing everything, and before I start with the painting, I'll post a few pictures here (I'll reserve a couple posts now, so all of it goes together) of all the minis, my working area, and so on. Then it's off for the long haul :)

Thanks for reading

Astro

Astromarine
17-12-2006, 20:46
Here are some pictures of what awaits me.

First, all my hobby supplies. Basing stuff, tools, primer, and my collection of VMC paints.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/HobbySupplies.jpg


This is all my stuff besides the two main armies. By the way, this picture reminds me I forgot to catalog the Vostroyans. :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/OtherStuff.jpg


Dwarfs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/Dwarfs.jpg

Astromarine
17-12-2006, 20:47
Dark Angels:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DarkAngels.jpg


And this is the only things I can remotely consider close to being finished. A DA squad and the lil buddy from Azrael:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DASquadandWatcher.jpg

Rich 123
17-12-2006, 22:05
You know you could have just edited the first post to include pics later ;)

That is alot you have to get through there, obviously you need to work on your motivation! I find it helps to look at what you have done and admire it or to set yourself a deadline - say decide the Dwarfs need a tournie outing so write up a list and get cracking to make sure you don't have a chance to slip behind.

And assembly line painting is your friend! Maybe make a start on the marines as they are pretty quick and easy to paint and you can feel satisfied at your progress until you start to get back into the swing of things again!

I got the same thing with my marine army (link in my sig) in that nothing had been painted for a while and I just started and I've been getting a unit done in a weekend (5 scouts and a vindi last weekend and assmbly line painting is keeping it speedy enough).

Good luck!
Dicky

Tom
17-12-2006, 22:20
...Okay, that'sactually rivalling Deadley's current backlog.


Good luck, and god speed, ye brave painter!

Astromarine
17-12-2006, 22:33
well, just updated the first post with the finished catalog. The stuff that was missing was mainly tactical (101 power armored marines) and assault marines (25 of them). Now I'm working on uploading the first batch of pictures, showing everything I have, and where I'll be working on them.

Ravenheart
17-12-2006, 22:56
That is indeed a damn lot of things you have there. Good luck.

Some advice to keep you motivated (works wonders for me):

Concentrate on an army only at a time.
Get a goal (1000p army for example) and a deadline.
Assemble and prime all the minis first. Gives you a necessary overview, which is very usefull.

Hope that helps.

Astromarine
17-12-2006, 23:30
Added pictures, and just noticed I forgot the Vostroyans. I'll go catalog them now, I want to go to bed with this job finished. Took me three days just for organizing and cleaning up everything.

All Done now. Every single miniature is there, now to start removing some of that dark red colour :D

Astromarine
19-12-2006, 00:42
And here we are, in my first update :) Today I didn't paint as much as I would have liked, because I spent one hour testing every single green shade I had from Vallejo Model Color on the underside of a primed Rhino, to see which matched Dark Angels Green the best. Surprisingly, it was Black Green. It gives a very muted, “militaristic” color for the DA's that I find quite appropriate. We'll see how it works on highlights.

After that I managed to apply the basecoat on 7 of my “assembled” marines. As is visible, I've decided to use the metal shoulderpads on every single model I can (devastators with fixed shoulder pads **** me off. Was it that hard to make the sculpt without pads?), since I find that this adds a very nice extra weight to each model. I've gotten a bit of trouble freehanding the squad number on top of the markings on the right pad, but nothing unsurmountable.

In any case, I'm quite happy. Even though it's one of those boring updates with no dazzling feats of skill on display, it's the first time in a LONG while where I've managed to complete a goal I set for myself when painting. :)

Tomorrow, it's time to work a bit more on these guys, to see what options I have with the new paints.

Cheers, thanks for reading.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DABasecolor1218.jpg

Closeup of a model, to better show the shade:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DABasecolorcloseup1218.jpg

BodhiTree
19-12-2006, 00:58
Your opening post reminded me of, well, myself. But you actually seem to be working faster than me, so in a way you're now motivating me.

Too bad I'll be on hiatus over the holidays. :(

Anyhoo, I will be watching this thread with much enthusiasm, your DA look very promising. :) Maybe in the new year we can pull each other through.

Astromarine
19-12-2006, 01:10
heh. I know what you mean. In any case, I do heartily recommend doing what I did if you feel just overwhelmed with stuff. Just catalog every single thing you have, move their storage around, put stuff that goes together in a box, really get an overall picture of your collection in your mind. For me, it was the step that turned my thoughts about my minis, from a nightmarish mess to a challenge :D

dark angel
19-12-2006, 13:12
so only a couple of models to paint...lol
good luck

Bluesabre
19-12-2006, 13:21
Bloody hell thats a lot!

The bit that really struck me as being the hardest slog for you was the FoW russians.... so many little men to paint.

Though im pretty sure I have no where near your collection I'm still frightened to d a stocktake of what I have.

Good luck with it all, and look forward to seeing some progress.

Astromarine
19-12-2006, 15:00
Yeah, the russians are a pain due to the sheer number of them, but on the other hand, you can finish them off pretty quick with a bit of practice. At that scale, you're not exactly doing 7 stage highlights ;)

Since I had a few pictures from the old log, here they are so people unfamiliar with the game can see what's involved:

My collection, all models separated by base and in formation (platoon, company, battalion):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Russians/P1010368-01.jpg

My only fully painted models so far. Everything else I have, including the space marines in the post above, are still considered WIP. Even these I still want to tweak their bases a bit.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Russians/P1010363-01.jpg

Size comparison to a Vostroyan model, so you guys can see exactly how much of a pain these are to paint. The game is worth it, though.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Vostroyans/new_att_front.jpg

Arhalien
19-12-2006, 15:04
:O! There's a lot of insanity going round here, what with Deadley, Hastings and now you! How many models in total hacve you got to do? I think Hastings has aroung 1800, adn i have no idewa what Deadley had to do.

||-MARKO-||
19-12-2006, 16:41
oh dear, lots to paint there :D

on the other hand, i envy you. id love to have so much stuff. i sorta have an obsession with wnating to build a pile of unpainted and unassembled stuff since i keep kicking myself for assembling squads BEFORE acquiring some bitz to convert them with...

well, anyways, good luck, and il probably end up watching this thread aswell...

marko

Astromarine
19-12-2006, 16:57
thanks for the well wishes guys. I'mm off for home now, I'll post something later on with today's results

Astromarine
20-12-2006, 00:47
Well, today's update shows exactly why this situation occurred in the first place. I got distracted on the computer and started painting only at 11 pm or so. Thankfully, I managed to reach the bare minimum objective for today, which were the chest eagles. Since I'm using new colors there's always a bit of experimentation, and the colors I finally reached were Chocolate Brown, Khaki Grey, and Dark Sand. Here's the result, a nice rich bone color. I'd have preferred a "muter" tone of brown more similar to Scorched Brown, but I don't think VMC has anything like that. If you know what color I should buy to fill that role, please let me know. And please provide feedback, I can see the mistakes in the eagles I painted already (damn too-good camera) but I can always use some pointers on colors, or at least people telling me they're interested in what I'm doing. Thanks to the people who've already done that.

Anyway, pics. As usual, group shot then closeup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DaChestEagles.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DaChestEaglescloseup.jpg

Astromarine
21-12-2006, 00:35
One more update, now I do need your help though. Take a look at these shots; they're of my test model for highlights, compared to an un-highlighted model. Do you think it's enough? The picture isn't sooooo clear, but it should be more or less visible. I like to go for a more naturalistic, less extreme look, but sometimes I think I might overdo it and just obscure any effort. Please give me feedback on this, so I can either go back to the drawing board or keep on truckin'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlights-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlights-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlights-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlightsCloseup.jpg

BodhiTree
21-12-2006, 05:44
Your painting on the beakie is nicely subdued, and I really think it's down to a preference of hue. I would go for the the beakie's shade. :)

Rich 123
21-12-2006, 15:22
The highlighting on the Mk6 marine looks nicely subtle - extreme highlighting is often a bit too stark for my tastes as well.

That said I would probably recommend that you at least try just giving him one highlight more, maybe two if you can be bothered, nearer to the edges of each armour plate. It would remain subtle if you used lighter shades of a similar tone but would also help to define the shapes of the miniature and make it pop more.

It's a tricky compromise we often have I find - to highlight less and more with more subtlety or to highlight more and define the shapes and make it look more eye catching. one is more realistic though less suitable for such a small scale, the other can look overly brash though much of the time.

I have some green painted scouts in my project log, although they are a more vivid shade of green to fit with my vibrant marines I feel the highlighting isn't as extreme as some examples. Take a peek, as a bit more definition around the edges of the armour plates, I think, will help no end!

You are soldiering on well though (no pun intended ;)) good luck with this monster back log of yours!
Dicky

Astromarine
21-12-2006, 16:33
Thanks for the advice guys. Rich, I went to your log thread and took a look at the scouts, and I think you're right. I'm gonna try to give him a few more highlights on the armor edges. Now I'm off to eat, practice on my bass a bit, then a few more hours of painting, hopefully. Results forthcoming, as usual.

FalseAngel
21-12-2006, 17:42
And I feel bad just looking at my marine's termie squad not being done... :o Good luck on all this, I'll be keeping close watch on the DA stuff, I like the darker scheme, especially the bone chest ornamentation.

Astromarine
21-12-2006, 23:36
OK, guys, any opinion on this test model? He's not completed yet, but the green is as far as I will take him. I just decided to start on the red to get a feedback on that as well, or at least to show a bit better the final aspect of the mini, which might help judging the green.

So, now I need you guys to be harsh. Really harsh. Doing this guy was not fast for me, since I had to test colors, repaint when the tests didn't work, and so on. I need to be faster if I plan on making any dent on that huge list anytime soon. But I want to have a good grasp of what colors and stuff to use before I start trying to speed things up, and being so inexperienced I need your help. Hell, this guy is what, my 10 miniature so far? Maybe 11th. In any case, I'm a noob at painting, and I need your advice so I can improve (so no trying to tiptoe around my feelings). Shoot away.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlights2-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlights2-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAHighlights2-03.jpg

Rich 123
22-12-2006, 00:08
Hello again,

He looks so much better already! The extra highlights help to define the armour plates and really help to lift the models overall look. It is definitely a good start for someone who hasn't done much painting, that's for sure!

I am trying to get my marines painted up for a deadline as well and having to force myself to speed paint them more.

The single best way to speed paint I find is to batch paint. I do this in groups of around 5 minis as it can get a bit depressing with more than that, but the basic principle is to paint each colour on all of those minis then move onto the next colour and so on. Sounds obvious but can speed up painting so much especially if you make any mixes for highlights.

Another tip I can offer you is really really simple and I find it speeds things up alot as well. Just try and paint as neatly as you possibly can, this way there is less over painting for shading and so on.

The advantage of marines is that they are actually really quite quick to paint up I find as most of the mini is just armour. I alos like to leave backpacks and guns off the mini until it is painted (and in fact sometimes whole arms as well if they obscure the torso as this can really help get an even colour everywhere with the minimum of effort as well as easier access to details). I don't paint them on the sprue as that just means you have to then cover the paintwork damage from then snipping them from the sprue as well as it being harder to clean the mould lines. I tend to just glue the bits to a piece of sprue or pin them with a wire in a place that won't be visible. That helps me alot at least :)

Hope this will give you some ideas and help on speeding up progress, although it depends on quite how fast you want to paint. I want to keep something like a high tabletop standard to all my marines although using quicker techniques like drybrushing alone can speed things up dramatically as well.

Good luck
Dicky

ss_cherubael
22-12-2006, 05:15
Yeah looking good mate, thats a hell of a lot of stuff to paint. Good luck and i will keep an eye on this thread .

Astromarine
22-12-2006, 10:14
A question for whoever's reading this: should I ease up on the pictures? I've been taking shots after each painting session, no matter how minimal my progress, and posting them here, but I don't know if it's driving people away. I will always post *something* after each session, even if just text, and also take the pictures at least for myself, but I can refrain from posting the shots themselves. I just do it now because it's become part of the "ritual" of a painting sessions, but if you're getting overwhelmed in pointless shots let me know. :)

Bluesabre
22-12-2006, 13:41
If its part of your painting ritual and help[s you get through your stockpile keep doing it. Don't be discouraged if you do not get replys every single day, a lot of peple will still read your posts even if they dont make comment.

Keep at it and I'm sure we'll see great results in the end.

Mato Noupa
23-12-2006, 07:48
Well met Astromarine! :D
A cheerful hello from a fellow hellhounder.

I say keep posting those pics whenever you made any progress. And just keep on going like Bluesabre said even if there is no one responding at that given time. Just post an update with a good pic a few days later and everyone feels inclined to comment again.

And I really hope you keep that pace, it's a lot of work and I know what I'm talking about. :angel:

The pics show that your minis are coming along nicely. Keep going!:D

I'll watch you and for Jokaeros sake have to ask you to post on hh again too. ;)

Merry Christmas
Mato Noupa

Astromarine
23-12-2006, 13:03
holy crap. How did you find me here? I haven't posted in HH for like two years :D

Astromarine
24-12-2006, 14:09
Hmm, 3 days without updates sorry about that, but the weekend is usually playing time, and Christmas doesn't help. :) On the upside, I took 1000 points of Dark Angels against a friend of mine's Tyranids, and managed a minor victory on an Omega-level Cleanse. Here's the army list I used. An interesting point is that I tried to incorporate the rumors of the new codex. The "split" 10 man squads, fully equipped with grenades, etc. Unfortunately, I forgot that I couldn't give them Stubborn in the new codex:

Tactical Squad (5#, 131 Pts)
Flamer; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
1 Deathwing Sergeant
Terminator Honors; Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Fist (x1); Stubborn

Tactical Squad (5#, 100 Pts)
Missile Launcher; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades

Tactical Squad (5#, 135 Pts)
Plasmagun; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades
1 Deathwing Sergeant
Terminator Honors; Close Combat Weapon; Plasma Pistol; Stubborn
Bionics

Tactical Squad (5#, 100 Pts)
Lascannon; Krak Grenades; Frag Grenades

Epistolary (1#, 200 Pts)
Bolt Pistol (x1); Fear of the Darkness; Fury of the Ancients; Stubborn
Bionics; Iron Halo; Master-Crafted Force Weapon
Terminator Honors

Venerable Dreadnought (1#, 150 Pts)
Assault Cannon; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Furious Charge
1 Extra Armor

Predator Annihilator (1#, 180 Pts)
Twin-Linked Lascannon; Lascannon (x2)
Extra Armor
Power of the Machine Spirit

Total Roster Cost: 1001

Astromarine
02-01-2007, 02:31
Hi guys, sorry about the lack of updates lately but this holiday week has been a bit hectic for me. Had two days off both at Christmas and at new years, and I've been having very much fun, but little of it miniature related.

Today I finally worked on this stuff again, with mixed results. On one hand, I finished my first Vet Sarge for a Dark Angel squad, and he's the miniature I'm proudest of. On the other hand, when I wanted to varnish him and his squad, this being the first time I used varnish, I kinda screwed up. The sarge himself is thankfully OK, but a few squad members got that dreaded "foggy" look. I'm posting a picture in the next post of the difference, so you guys can see their condition. They remain usable, but it pisses me off that the first models I'm happy with enough to varnish, I end up wrecking.

Anyway, here's the usual picture update. Please critique the sergeant for me, as he's the best I can currently do, and I'd like to know how to improve for the next one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DASargeSide-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DASargeFront-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DASargeBack-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAJewel-01.jpg

Astromarine
02-01-2007, 02:32
Here's the fog effect from the varnish. Both marines were painted exactly the same and are under the same light. But as you can see by the kneepad or the hand on the trigger, the varnish really screwed up the color

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Monster%20Paint%20Log/DAVarnishFog-01.jpg

Cheatah
02-01-2007, 12:43
Good luck man, you're gonna need it ;)

Astromarine
05-03-2007, 02:56
As mentioned in the first post, this log may be subject to, erm, delays. This is a case in point. 2 months with no update, basically because I didn't even touch my minis in this time. Now I'm starting to look at them again, so further posts will come in the next few days. Also, since I'm a total whore for plastic and pewter, I've bought even more stuff. In this case, a lot of the new DA minis, and I've also traded some of my old dwarves (from 6th edition, which I didn't like and which don't fit at all with the new ones, IMHO) for a substantial increase in Khemri stock :D

Also, I'm getting my Driver's license. At 31. *sigh* I can say that "Finally!!" is kind of an understatement.

ss_cherubael
05-03-2007, 12:22
Ha havent posted here for a few months,.

I know the feeling my log is around here somewhere very neglected. Also the new dark angel stuff is awesome i ordered the army box from england so i could get it a month in advance and paint everything...well i think you get that its still in the box on the sprues a month later! I hope you find some motivation to get them done and if you have any motivation left over pass it this way i really need it.

PS: i thought not having my drivers license at 18 was bad, try not to crash the car first time out !

Astromarine
27-04-2007, 12:18
Text-only update: I got a couple more new DA minis and 2 of the new Dwarf Bolt Throwers. The reason for the BTs is that I got kinda diverted away from the DAs. There's a tournament in end of August, and I made a deal with a friend of mine to have a 1500pt Dwarf army fully painted by then. THEN I vowed to sell all my minis if I don't make that deadline. There's still months to go, and it's a small army (around 80 dwarfs), so I promised that if I couldn't get the motivation to work on that then I had no business being in this hobby. Having that huge pile of stuff with only around 12 minis finished borders on the ridiculous.

Later on tonight there will be a picture update with the Dwarves I'm working on currently. The test model is almost finished and I quite like him, so we'll see how it goes.

Driver's license status: still having lessons. Here in Switz it takes MONTHS to finish the thing.

Cheatah
27-04-2007, 15:16
Ahaaaaa... an update... but... but... I'm not seeing pictures... c'mon dude, show us some pics...

PS: good luck with your driver's license (and the 80-dwarves thing)

Weregerbil
29-04-2007, 13:07
So where is the update?

Astromarine
19-06-2007, 12:49
sorry about that, guys. After failing my driver's license (was pretty important for me, so I got really bummed out) and suffering a complete loss of my PC the minis kinda took a back seat. To make matters worse, I became really unhappy with the way my dwarves looked. However, this week I got back into it, and finished a Grudge Thrower (working on its crew now). Yesterday evening I finally finished setting up my PC to import and develop my pictures again, so I'm gonna post up something tonight. Cheers, and sorry for the lack of updates. You WERE warned in the first post though. :D

Astromarine
20-06-2007, 08:49
Yay, finally a picture update. The new picture import and processing system worked fine (better than the old one in fact) so here's a couple pictures of my WIP Dwarfs. Unfortunately, I didn't have the grudge thrower handy yesterday, I'll put up a shot of it sometime tonight or tomorrow.

First of all, my first Warriors. One is more or less finished, just missing the shield. The others are WIP, but I had to stop them because I was unhappy with the way the work was going. I just noticed that in this picture you can't see the weapons very well, so I'll try to take another shot in different poses (also to show off the red cloak on the rightmost guy).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune190000.jpg

This is what I'm working on now. It's the crew of the grudge thrower, and very early in the process. I've only applied the metals so far, just started with the normal colors on the apron of the middle dude. I'll try to have something more flashy to show off tonight. For now, I just wanted to put *something* up that wasn't more excuses. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune190001.jpg

Cheers, and please comment on what you can, especially the warriors.

Harry
20-06-2007, 10:34
I see what you mean :D

First don't panic! You can paint. Your getting it all in the right place and you are doing some nice blending.

Your painting (on the DA) seems to have a grainy texture I can only suggest that your undercoat isn't doing you any favours. I use car spray for minis with mostly armour or big smooth areas like you SM. It is not quite so matt black, it has a slight sheen but it is not so 'dusty' either. Might give you a better start for smoooooth painting.

Consider painting 'inside out' if you start with the deepest recesses of the models and work out you can touch up as you go and you don't have to paint everything so carefully. If you start with the raised bits you have to paint the whole thing with a tiny brush avoiding the bits you have already done.

Sacrifice three models to test paint jobs before you start to try and find the quickest method of painting the bulk of the army before you start.
Take your Dark Angels. I would have painted one a mid green and used a dark wash. (possibly with a final highlight on top). One on a gark green and drybrushed up (possibly finishing with a watery green wash just to smooth out any chalkyness and painted another blending up from black undercoat through the greens.

The third would probably be the best. However, if I could live with method one or two you know they are going to be faster than option three. (sometimes I even like the finish better!) Its worth taking the time to form a 'plan of attack'.

As you have seen from my log I like to get the bulk of the armies main colours done by a fast method. This way they start to look half painted and this way its less depressing than looking at an army of undercoated minis that are not even started.

Just my thoughts. There are as many ways to paint as there are painters.
This log was a great read (despite the lack of painting :D)


All the best
Harry

Arhalien
20-06-2007, 10:51
Woo, an update :)

I agree with Harry that the middle dwarf is by far the best; very nice work on him :)

The other 4 aren;t looking too bad either; the faces could do with some tidying up at the edges and to go over any pools of ink; I presume that that'll be done when you finish the rest of the model?

I also have to agree with Harry about finding the quickest way to paint a model; I;ve been getting very frustrated with the Elves I've ben repainting recently as I have no set order of painting colours and keep finding new areas which need to be a certain colour which I've already mostly painted...

Good luck with the continued painting; I'm sure you'll get it all done! :D

Astromarine
20-06-2007, 11:29
whee, comments. :D Thanks for the advice, I'll surely follow it when I go back to the DA. My main issue with the Dwarfs is that I decided to paint them without a "uniform", painting the clothes in a few different colors, varying the patterns, etc. I'll use the shields (and possibly Helmets) to give the army some uniformity. Therefore, it's harder to find a plan of attack. What I'll probably do is to paint the faces first after the metals, then the beards, then the clothes. I have to start with the metals first, because that's mostly where I use drybrushing and other "messy" techniques.

Well, today I have a 5 hour painting session planned, I'll post the new pictures (including the grudge thrower, though it's mostly basic metal painting with no "tricks". I'll ask for ideas on how to improve it later) around midnight. :D

Thanks for the comments again guys, and keep reading, maybe in 2008 I can even finish a whole unit :D

Huw_Dawson
21-06-2007, 15:18
Tip: Every Sunday, write up a timetable for what your going to do that week, and include... 3 hours? a day of painting in it. It works for me... but I STILL can't paint well. >.>

- Huw

Discover&See
21-06-2007, 16:20
Huw_Dawson thats an awsome idea mate, astro the dwarfs are comming on really well looking super, just a quick thing give the metal areas afew black and brown ink mix wash as it will tone the metal quite micely. keep up the good work can't wait to see them finished.

best regards
Discover&See

Astromarine
21-06-2007, 17:23
thanks for the compliments and the ideas. I did work on the dwarfs yesterday, but had no chance to take any pictures. I'll do it after today's session. :)

Discover&See
21-06-2007, 17:28
cool cool, no worries for ideas just tryin to help :) well if you need any help with anything just pm me or something and i'll try my best to help you, well get these pictures up as i can't wait to see them finished :D !!!!!
Good luck!

Best regards
Discover&See

Astromarine
21-06-2007, 23:23
Well, today's painting session turned out to be a lot smaller than I thought, so I only managed to touch up the faces on all the models, and start with figuring out how to paint non-black beards. :D Not to much to show for as a result, but regular readers (both of you) know I like to take pictures of whatever I do at the painting table, both to focus my ideas on the minis as to try and catch mistakes in the absurd magnification my camera is capable of. So here's the current status, including the stone thrower I finally managed to shoot. Please give me ideas on how to spice up the machine, I've been looking at it and feeling it's a bit bland, no matter how shiny it is.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune220002.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune220001.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune220000.jpg

Discover&See
22-06-2007, 00:17
looking good, just to add abit more colour to the warmachine add afew ink washes to it and follow highlighting up between each wash as it will set tone to the metal, other than that i'm liking the stands there awsome, and you got some happy jolly looking dwarfs there :P keep up the good work! :D

Best regards
Discover&See.

Astromarine
22-06-2007, 23:28
Today I had just a little time to paint, and again it becomes proven that I just can't speed paint at all :D To be fair, I'm trying out a couple different ideas on where to start on the miniature, what colors to use for leather, beards, etc, and so on. Eventually I'll be faster (I hope) but for now I'm just happy that I can finish the evening and NOT throw the miniature back in the acetone in disgust.

Anyway, here's some pictures of an almost finished crewmember.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune230002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune230001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune230000.jpg

Discover&See
22-06-2007, 23:39
looking awsome especially the green nicely done, your metalic colours are really starting to improve as well :) nice and tidy paint job can't wait for the finished product!!!!

Best regards
Discover&See.

Arhalien
23-06-2007, 10:35
Lovely stuff Astromarine; the highlighting on the apron is great :)
The red looks a bit flat however; an ink wash and an extra highlight should solve that.

Keep it up!

Astromarine
24-06-2007, 01:38
Hi guys, thanks for the compliments. Today was pretty much a day to just experiment a bit and fool around, as I had little time to paint (me and my wife started dating 7 years ago). However, I still managed to finish one of the crewmembers.
Here come the usual pictures. What do you think of the finished guy?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune240002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune240001.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune240000.jpg

Arhalien
24-06-2007, 11:35
The finished crewman is very nice, and the beards on the others are great :)

Very well done!

Discover&See
24-06-2007, 21:17
there looking awsome as always :) the skin tone looks pretty good on the crew men, keep up the good work! :)

Best regards
Discover&See.

Kraal_Lord_Of_Blood
25-06-2007, 12:02
On the warmachine, flesh wash over gold works wonders! (not too much though..) Rest lookin good *thumbs up*

Astromarine
26-06-2007, 00:42
Ladies and Gentlemen, today there is a milestone in this log. For the first time, I managed to go to the first post and set something GREEN! YAY.

Namely, my Grudge Thrower. Due to finally setting in stone a deadline (2250 points for end of September) because of a tournament, I decided to try a more Harry-style "batch"process, at least with the foundation paints, so that I can have usable units as soon as possible that I can retouch later. Before I started that with my warriors, I had to finish the 2 remaining crewmembers of my warmachine, to make myself feel like I accomplished something. I am also very very pleased with the result, but still want some critique of what I did wrong in your opinion.

Oh, by the way, I cheated. I did finish the main painting, but I still have to paint the lower lip on the blonde guy (forgot) and also base the two guys. But I'm allowing myself the cheat anyway to have some green on the top post, so there.

Anyway, pictures. First the two new guys, then a "group" pose with the warmachine that I took as a record of completion. Cheers, and thanks for all the encouragement guys. It really really helped, so please keep going.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune260002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune260003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune260004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJune260001.jpg

Discover&See
26-06-2007, 02:35
looking really nice all really that is needed now is basing :P they look awsome and to me have some sort of cartoony feel to them which is mighty cool :) all nice and cleanly painted and smooth, good job keep up the awsomness of dwarfs :D

Best regards
Discover&See.

Harry
26-06-2007, 07:28
These are you best yet.
I love the blue and the gold on these guys.
And the beards are good. The blonde beard is particularly successful.

The flesh seems a bit 'flat' however.
You know the technique you have use on the blue of these dwarfs (where you leave a little of the previous colour showing through). You can use the same technique to good effect on the skin working up through progesively lighter colours of flesh but leaving some of the darkest colour in each of the mucsle creases. OR nor you are at this stage you can apply on top a watererd down wash of ink or colour to put the 'depth' back in.

Arhalien
26-06-2007, 09:16
erm, what Harry said ;)

Basically; good work on the blue and bronze, flesh and red a little bit flat.

Keep it up!

Astromarine
01-07-2007, 02:30
After a couple days of not painting, I finally have something to show you guys. As I've said, I'm trying to speed up my painting a bit, so I started working on my first warrior unit. I showed a few pictures before of 5 models from that unit I took to quite an almost complete state, but I decided to stop those and bring the other 19 up to that level. So far, in two days, I've paintes all their beards, and gave a start on their faces, eyes, and leather parts (bags, boots, belts, etc). All in all, I'm quite happy with the way this unit is going, both in terms of looks and speed. Here's the WIP:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsJuly010000.jpg

Arhalien
01-07-2007, 14:14
Very nice looking work Astromarine. That's good painting speed on that many models and what you;ve done so far is good :)
The grey beards look like they need a little bit of tidying up; maybe a black ink wash to counter some of the grey in the recesses?

Keep up the good work :)

Discover&See
01-07-2007, 20:18
very nice work there man, the beards are looking cool good job and the painted ones at the back the unit will lokk fantastic when you finish it :)
keep up the awsome work!!!

Best regards
Discover&See.

Astromarine
05-09-2007, 08:45
The other day I had nothing to do at our gaming club while my friends painted, so I picked up the standard bearer from the army deal and decided to give it a go. 8 hours later, I had it finished (minus base).

As an aside, taking pictures with my camera is a heartbreak. It zooms so much that I can see every single tiny fleck of paint that is out of place. I managed to find a ton of mistakes in this guy already, but I can't fix them because if I want to go to the tournament at the end of this month I have to speed up A LOT. I haven't done much since my last post, except this dude and a couple more stages on my warrior block. In any case, this is my best miniature so far, I think. He's a bit more elaborate than the DA sargeant I have a ton of posts back.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsSeptember040000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsSeptember040001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dwarfs/DwarfsSeptember040002.jpg

Arhalien
05-09-2007, 14:09
Not bad :)

May I recommend some black lining work; especially on the beard and the standard; thinned black ink in the crevices works well for that.
I also think that the beard needs a bit of extra shading (black ink works well for that as well ;)) and the gold on the banner looks a tad untidy in places to me; a chestnut ink was in addition to neatening it up would do a lot I feel.

Hope that helps :)

Astromarine
23-11-2007, 00:25
After months of my miniatures languishing alone and unloved, I got back to painting again. Who knows for how long this time, but since I probably lost my entire audience months ago anyway, I can keep updating this just for myself, as a journal of my experiences.

No pics this time. Camera's getting repaired. I started on my Dark Angels again, as I pretty much failed to make any headway on the dwarfs. I highlighted that squad I have in some pictures way at the beginning of the thread, but I'm kind of unhappy about the result. I'll post them as soon as I can.

Also sometime soon I'll have to go back to that list at the beginning of the page and update it. The DA release made me add a couple things to my collection that I haven't put in the list yet.

Astromarine
08-02-2009, 15:56
Hello, welcome again to this monument to my own laziness (and obsessive-compulsive buying habits)

The reason I decided to bump this is that since I'm involved in this year's ToFP I've wanted to post more of my work-in-progress stuff, and while the Tale has a thread for that I don't want to hijack it with daily posts. Besides, there is value in having all my stuff collected in one thread.

So here I am again. As you guys can see in the first post, I have a lot of stuff, and am currently focussing on a new Dark Elves army. After I finished last month's 200pts requirement for the Tale (a Manticore) I'm now working on february's, which will be two Reaper Bolt Throwers. After those are done, I'll hopefully start on a few other models so I can start catching up to the rest of the people in the tale, as I started way late.

I'll post my current WIPs after tonight's session, but here's what I have finished for the Tale: the aforementioned Manticore, a Sorceress, and 10 normal Warriors.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dark%20Elves/DarkElves200902070000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dark%20Elves/DarkElves200901010002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dark%20Elves/DarkElves200901010004.jpg

As an aside: I actually have more stuff for the Dark Angels than I have written in the first post of the thread. Will update it when I get the nerve to actually go sort that stuff out again.

Astromarine
08-02-2009, 23:49
Here's the current unit I'm working on, my two RBTs. The crew is only primed so far, but I'm pretty much done with the machines, I think. Have to take another close look at them, but I'm ready to call them finished. What do you guys think? I'm particularly proud of the woodgrain on them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dark%20Elves/DarkElves200902090000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dark%20Elves/DarkElves200902090001.jpg

Here's the detail of one of the woodgrain sections.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Dark%20Elves/DarkElves200902090002.jpg

wiggles
09-02-2009, 02:10
That's nice work on that wood grain. It's subtle but it adds something to what would otherwise be a big flat brown area.

Astromarine
09-02-2009, 09:39
Thanks! Yeah, I was really pissed at those RBTs, painting all that metal was boring me out of my skull and they'd already aggravated me when assembling them (fiddly little legs are horrible), but once I started on the wood I started having fun again. I used the tutorial at Brushthralls (here: http://blog.brushthralls.com/?page_id=2670), and then used what I call VMC Miracle Paint #2 (828 wookgrain; Miracle Paint #1 is 939 Smoke, of course). I really really like the finish.

My question now though is, would you highlight the wood further, like on the edges and so on, or leave it as it is?

Jim
18-02-2009, 18:30
I think you've acheived a nice wood effect on your RBT's...

I do think that the metal/silver areas look very flat. A wash of Badab black and some Mithril Silver highlights might make them look a bit more snappy.

Overall good work though!

Jim

bert n ernie
18-02-2009, 19:03
Why did I not see this thread last time around.
You update like I do, I like that.
The woodgrain on the RBTs is really well done. Shows an good improvment from the start of this thread(which I just checked).
Keep it up.

Astromarine
19-02-2009, 11:36
wheee, comments. :D thanks. Yeah, I agree with the metal areas, I need to revisit it. Working on the crew now, I'll post here when I have something to show.

And Bert, yeah it's a bit sad to see the gaps between posts. That's why I've been so excited about the Tale of Fantasy Painters, it's been doing wonders for my productivity.

Braad
19-02-2009, 12:21
Man.... that's a lot of stuff to paint.

Do you actually use all those armies? I think I would just get rid of, say, half and concentrate on the rest.
Though I have to add, it would take me about 10 years (estimated) to paint just the fantasy and 40k bit you got...
I hope that your a bit faster. Maybe you can take classes from Harry or something?

Maharajah
19-02-2009, 12:30
I like your woodgrain technique ... but it bothers me a bit that it doesn't run longitudinally the length of the bow. If it was like how you have it the wood would split. But that's just nitpicking.

Having said that, keep it up! I like it.

Astromarine
19-02-2009, 13:07
Maharajah: yes, it's been pointed out :D it's more for visual effect than realism, though the rest of the wood (like the legs, body, and one of the arms of the other RBT) is painted the "normal" way.

Braad: yeah, I don't use any of that stuff actually. I hate painting fully built models, so I only took off the sprue a minimal amount of stuff. It's VERY depressing. And yes, I've thought about offloading most of that crap, but I haven't sorted through it yet to figure out what I want to keep. But yeah, we play most of those games in our club, except for Warmachine. I bought the starter boxes to have something to demo the game with, but that idea dies when I didn't build them and paint them :D

Astromarine
15-07-2009, 10:33
Updated the first page with my High Elf army, and the newest purchases for my Dwarves. There's still some stuff missing from the catalog, mainly some Khemri purchases and a bit of Dark Elf work I think.

The High Elf army is a weird thing. I bought it earlier this year from a friend who needed cash, as it was a fully painted army that I could use in tournaments while I keep working at my usual glacial pace on my own armies. Of course, me being me, I couldn't resist buying some more stuff for it, which is why it isn't full green. The main problems with it are that it was build like 2 editions ago, which explains all the 16-man units, and that the paint scheme and standard is horrible :D However, I'm not fixing it. The whole point was to have something that's done, so even though I'm working on the new things in my own usual standard (meaning, not great but at least trying to do a good job) what's painted will stay that way.

Currently I've only been gluing, cleaning, and spraying things, in preparation for the next Tale of Fantasy Painters. I've been snorting so much primer that I'm starting to go crahskjughsbdfblxcbrrbbrrbrbrbrbr. Can't wait for August to actually start putting brush to model.

Pictures of the High Elves will come soon, mostly for cataloguing purposes, and to ask for a bit of help with the scheme.

Astromarine
21-02-2012, 12:59
OHAI. Hey, 2009 eh? it's been a while.

So, I bought a lot more stuff. A LOT. Painting... eh, not so much.

Recently thought, I started getting back into it, together with my wife. I didn't want to just put up a non-post again, so I waited until I had something to show.

I spent a week working on a Vostroyan squad, now that it's kinda done (minus basing) I wanted to show it before I start working on my Dark Angels again. Two of the pics are crappy iPhone quality, but the others I took with my real camera. In those the only crappy thing is the paintjob.

In case anyone actually reads this: HI THERE NICE TO MEET YOU SAY SOMETHING

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Vostroyans/photo7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Vostroyans/photo6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Vostroyans/P2153366.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/Astromarine/Vostroyans/P2153365.jpg