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sugarwookie
27-12-2006, 21:46
Just wondering if anyone has ran a campaign of sorts combining these two games? We're gearing up for a BFG campaign in March and I'd love to figure a fun and sound way of running the two together. Any input would be appreciated!



Thnx,

Wookie

fracas
27-12-2006, 22:51
the bfg blue book has campaign formats and ideas. not sure if the new BFG book coming out will as well.

way i figure it, easiest would be to play bfg first and the winner gets a free round of orbital bombardment before a game of 40k
and perhaps limit drop pod deployment only for winning bfg

FieronThor
27-12-2006, 23:08
There's some rules released by Specialist Games on this. I'm not too sure if this direct link will work properly (otherwise go to specialist games website>articles>planet fall).

http://www.specialist-games.com/assets/FO69BFGMedusaIntro.pdf

(p.s. you need Adobe Acrobat to view this)

Chaos and Evil
27-12-2006, 23:17
Epic & BFG work better together to be honest.

40k, as a skirmish system, is somewhat left in the middle of everything, campaign-wise (Too big for detailed character stuff which is best left in inquisitor, and too small for a 'realistic' war campaign in which logically far more people will take part).

fracas
28-12-2006, 00:25
40k games can also represent boarding actions between bfg ships

Toppan
28-12-2006, 06:33
man thatd be so awesome...someone make rules and stuff for it...like how big boarding crews are...like killteam rules maybe?

Goq Gar
28-12-2006, 07:11
We have been doing EXACTLY that!

We have been doing an ork vs Space marine campaign with BFG and 40k games, and occasionally we play 40k games during BFG games as boarding actions and stuff!

Slaaneshi Slave
28-12-2006, 07:18
BFG -> Epic -> 40k -> Necromunda / Gorkamorka -> Inquisitor

An epic (not the game..) campaign with all those games in would be awesome. :p

Griefbringer
28-12-2006, 16:01
man thatd be so awesome...someone make rules and stuff for it...like how big boarding crews are...like killteam rules maybe?

They would need to be quite big - remember that the bigger ships are huge and might have crews of hundreds or thousands of people. Expecting ten men to take such a ship would be a bit too much.

Then again, you do not need to capture the whole ship to take it out of action - command bridge, engine deck and main weapon bays would go a long way. Actually it could be possible to play multiple boarding actions, one for each of these - or to even put a number of tables together and enough players pushing the models and playing all 3-4 boarding actions simultaneously.

Slaaneshi Slave
28-12-2006, 17:14
All you need to do to disable a ship is plant a melta bomb on the main power plant, whatever its called in 40k. Then get back off, of course. :p

spagunk
28-12-2006, 18:34
Bad example but in Battletech, they've set up a system to work all three lvls of the game into one gigantic melee using time as a reference. Each game (Mechwarrior (RPG), Battletech, Battlespace) round is supposed to translate to a certain amount of time. To play all three it works out as follows:

3-6 rounds in Mechwarrior = 1 battletech round
3 rounds of Battletech = 1 round of Battlespace

So perhaps, using that as a reference, you could coordinate a massive battle with 2 rounds of 40k equal to 1 round of Epic while 2 rounds of epic could be 1 round of BFG. I do have to say that whatever you do, it will be horribly complicated. Have fun.

fracas
28-12-2006, 19:21
use the city fight rule for boarding action

MrBigMr
28-12-2006, 21:39
I found a site with nice rules for boarding action (can't find the link but googling should work). Basicly no vehicles, like bikes or tanks and no cavalry. I think it was 1 compulsory troop choise as minimum and the battle would be about 200-400pts. with +/-25pts. modifier for each point you get for boarding action (like chaos gets +1 for boarding action, which would mean that in 200pts. BA chaos player would get 225pts.).
We've been talking with a friend about mixing out BFG games with little boarding action.

Slaaneshi Slave
28-12-2006, 22:07
I can just see it now... Fire Warriors boarding enemy vessels. It would be a massacre. At least until they got back to their own ships and blew the hell out of it instead. :p

MrBigMr
28-12-2006, 22:28
Hey, they did it in Fire Warrior.
I remember there was some rules on the end result. Sort of like you cause 1 point of damage on the enemy ship for every 50pts. you have troops left.

Slaaneshi Slave
28-12-2006, 22:30
No, YOU did it in Fire Warrior. A protagonist kills everything, it doesn't matter what race he is from. :p

MrBigMr
28-12-2006, 22:34
Well, according to the Imperial transmissions, the Tau were all over the ship.
It's not impossible for the Tau to win boarding action, just very unlikely, as they have only half the boarding value.

greenmtvince
29-12-2006, 00:10
BFG -> Epic -> 40k -> Necromunda / Gorkamorka -> Inquisitor

An epic (not the game..) campaign with all those games in would be awesome. :p

You're forgetting that now you have to factor in an Aeronautica Imperialis campaign parallel to the Epic one.

Personnally I think AI will make for a better linked game to 40K than either BFG or Epic will. Perhaps I'm biased though, because I'm flyer heavy and I think more Chaos and Ork fighters will be showing up at my LGS.

kozmo
30-12-2006, 16:49
GW produced a supplement called BFG Invasion. It has rules for Boarding Actions using 40k, a larger Boarding Party for 40k, and a scenario called Deadline that works very well with a Planetary Assault from the Big Blue Book. Just use the special rules in the gray box on p76 that tell you how big of a 40k game to play after you play the Planetary Assault. Then play Deadline (40k part) from BFG Invasion. You could follow that by another BFG action if you wanted. It's quite nice and we came up with some great narrative.

Here is a little something from GW:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/blacktemplars-fleet-crusade/1/

Page 4 has more info about terrain in a boarding action. Page 5 actually has a ship interior that you can print out, glue to posterboard/foam, and then play a boarding action. I use this map with the boarding action rules from BFG Invasion - works great! Here's that map.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/blacktemplars-fleet-crusade/5/

PM me if you can't find BFG Invasion - I'll see how I can help you out!

Alessander
31-12-2006, 02:50
As mentioned, there is a supplement called invasion that is a collection of older WD articals about crossover games. They were all on the SG website as PDF before the graphical overhaul, look in the archives for for PDFs.

Don't try to do every boarding action as it's own 40K game, you'll be playing a game for a week that way...

Takitron
31-12-2006, 06:01
the bfg blue book has campaign formats and ideas. not sure if the new BFG book coming out will as well.

wait... what? what new BFG rulebook? linkylinky!

everyone else: In the US December WD there is a 8 game campaign, BT vs Eldar with one of the games being optional BFG space battle. Its pretty neat...

Also, in BFG:Invasion they have rules and scenarios for boarding actions. worth a read if you can get it

Edit: ok, helps to read the whole thread before posting.... what they said.

fracas
31-12-2006, 08:06
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61449

Partisan Rimmo
31-12-2006, 16:53
Crossing BFG with 40K is very very hard. The scales are just too disimilar. BFG with Epic can work, and Epic with 40K can work, but BFG battles wouldn't give advantages to 40K games, they would just end them.