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godshula
01-01-2007, 06:46
I have only been playing 40k for about a couple of years and would like to know what is the most universal points limit used in most home game and tourneys?

mistformsquirrel
01-01-2007, 06:52
The number I see most often is 1500pts: that said, don't trust my accounting, this is merely the number I see alot on the boards >.>

Reflex
01-01-2007, 06:55
thats like asking how long is a piece of string...

FarseerUshanti
01-01-2007, 06:58
Places I have played most often use 1850 pts as it allows you to bring a large enough force for diversity, yet doesn't take more than 2 hours to play

Master Jeridian
01-01-2007, 06:59
Got to be 1500pts- it's been stated that this is the pts limit GW works to when playtesting Codex's.
This is from playing in the UK.

As part of an inferiority complex the US has to go bigger with 1850, 2000, 2250 depending on the proximity to Texas.

Yarick Zan
01-01-2007, 07:38
Codices and yes I have to agree 1500 is what I see most.

templar1013
01-01-2007, 07:55
Dont be makin fun of the US.

On topic: I see 1500 and 1850 alot, so i guess those are the standard points limits

Master Jeridian
01-01-2007, 07:58
Dont be makin fun of the US.

Why not? That's what it's there for. ;)

Brimstone
01-01-2007, 08:44
As part of an inferiority complex the US has to go bigger with 1850, 2000, 2250 depending on the proximity to Texas.


Why not? That's what it's there for. ;)

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Stella Cadente
01-01-2007, 08:51
for me its 2000pts, everything else just doesn`t give you as much choice really

Nabeshin1106
01-01-2007, 08:57
my most common games are 1000-1500, although we do get to 2000 or higher on occasion

AventineCrusader
01-01-2007, 09:11
2000 points is my standard and what is used in tournaments most often around here. That said I do like to play a variety of other sizes, most often combat patrol or 1000 pts, quite often....

Crusader

FraustyTheSnowman
01-01-2007, 09:20
We have a hand full of kids who try to make every game a massive four to five grand a piece game, but generaly we like to stick to the one to two thousand neighborhood. I think with the exception of our every so often big games where we play six people a side (last time was twenty five hundred per player, this coming game should be closer to twelve) we'll be dropping down to the five hundred to one thousand. 'd rather play more games per session than one big one, as my attention span seems to be VERY short when it comes to warhammer.

Corax
01-01-2007, 10:37
Games around here can vary from 1000-2500 points. It really depends on the situation (ie. friendly or competition). Personally, I quite enjoy smaller games of 750-1200 points, where there are fewer models to worry about and you can get more games in in a day.

Btw, how long is a piece of string?

studderigdave
01-01-2007, 10:47
never below 1500 points. usually above 2500.

dave is the best
01-01-2007, 10:52
I mainly play 1000pts to 1500pts.

Dave

The Judge
01-01-2007, 11:17
I go for 1500pts, but my latest campaign is running at 1600pts to get something extra.

Cravon
01-01-2007, 11:30
It depends really, at my local club the average is about 3500 as we play games from 2500 upto 4500 in one on one and anywere up to 8000 with multiplie people on each side. at my local GW it is anywere from 1000 upto 3000 depending on the night.

but for me personally i generally take about 3000 points as i enjoy the big games

Helicon_One
01-01-2007, 11:32
Locally we've tended to play at 1000pts - at that level I think there's more skill involved in putting together a balanced army list, because at 1500 or above you can throw a bit of everything in before you hit your limit.

Also, 4x4 tables don't work too well with points levels much above 1000, especially with horde armies.

Tim

paddyalexander
01-01-2007, 11:51
Most of the games I've played have been at between 1000 & 1500 points. I've also played a lot of combat patrol as our gaming group is large & we have limited space.

Partisan Rimmo
01-01-2007, 12:20
I'm fairly sure that 1500pts is definatly the most common.

Rlyehable
01-01-2007, 13:41
In my previous group it was 1500 points.

In my new gaming group it is 2000.

I still think that 1500 is more fun, as you have to make some decisions on what to take. In 2000, you can take most of the "good stuff".

izandral
01-01-2007, 15:49
in my group it's 1700 , gives you 100pts per force organisation slots and enough room to put a few goody but you still have to think about it a bit

sanctusmortis
01-01-2007, 17:07
In stores it's usually 1000 or 1500. Gaming clubs tend to go for 1500-2000. A large army is normally 3000.

DhaosAndy
01-01-2007, 17:16
I think 1500 is the most common in the UK anyway.
It's a good size, you can get a bit of variety in it without being spoiled for choice. It's also supposed to be the size for which the lists are balanced.
UK GT is 1500 as are most other tournaments.

Morgrad
01-01-2007, 17:37
My local store was at 1500 prettymuch full-time, but about a year ago switched to 1850.

The Wraithlord
01-01-2007, 19:17
In my area the most used value is 1700pts due to that being the tourney limits for the most part. That said, more than a few people like to beef it up with 2000pt games coming in a close second. Personally, 2000pts is my preference as I like longer, bigger games.

Cpt.Hellboy
01-01-2007, 19:36
I mainly play at 1000-1500 points, sometimes combat patrol. Once i played a game and we didn't work out the points but we had over 540 tanks at my local games workshop.

toxic_wisdom
01-01-2007, 19:52
But if you want to field the single most expensive unit ( variant below ) in a game legally then you'll need a minimum of 7000 points.

Undivided with Tzeentch Influence

FOC Minimum = 220 Points

HQ - Lieutenant ( MoCU )
TR - Tzeentch Horror x5
TR - Tzeentch Horror x5

Elite Selection = 6780 points

AC Chosen Terminator ( MoT ) x20
Each equipped identically with the following...

-- Chainfist and Lightning Claw

-- Daemonic Strength
-- Daemonic Mutation
-- Daemonic Resilience
-- Daemonic Fire

-- Bionics
-- Spiky Bits

-- Thrall Wizard x4
-- Familiar
-- Bolt of Change
-- Warp Focus
-- Gift of Chaos
-- Minor Psychic Power x6
-- Tzeentch Minor Psychic Power x6

-- 339 points per model x20 models
-- Unit model count equals 100 including Thralls

Tiff
01-01-2007, 20:09
The way I see it


1000pts - small battle 1h-2h

1500pts - Medium battle 2h or so

2000pts - Large battle 2h 30min +



Combat patrol is tiny 30mins jobbie (but can be a welcome and fun change)

2000 3000 is very large and 3000+ is massive in my opinion and I can't think of any adjectives powerful enough to describe battle of 7000pts +


though colossal might come close

floyd pinkerton
01-01-2007, 20:15
at my local store we play 1000 pts, and at the gaming club at a library around 400-1000. means you dont have to collect lots to play and you can get stuff from xmas/birthdays on the table legally in no time, which is good as we have a few beginners, so they dont just get bored assembling and not gaming.

spikydavid
01-01-2007, 20:42
1500 points is the most common size in the UK. 1850 in the US.

scopedog91
01-01-2007, 22:13
Our local clubs are limited for space sometimes, so we have agreed on a 1500 point max for 90% of the games around here. If someone is new, we go in 500-1000 point games, once the force is built up to that point level. Time constraints are big at some stores, and getting as many people playing as possible seems to be the most fair.
Having said that, at home i like to ave some of the vets over for a 2000 pointer on the 6x4 foot table...

The Song of Spears
01-01-2007, 22:21
I think White Dwarf stated that all codex's are play tested at 1500 points when being made. i prefer 1500, with a max of 1850. or 500 point lunchhammer games.

Insta_AxE_Toast
01-01-2007, 23:34
At my local gw it's always 1k every thursday. Sometimes when we have tourneys its 1750 or 1200. I like 1000 point games because then you really have to think about your list.

Cill
01-01-2007, 23:39
You cant go any bigger than a 1500 point game in my local GW....

bnrweimann
01-01-2007, 23:47
Looks like the groups in my area are over achievers. We normally play 2000 pt games. Usually ends up lasting about 3 hours. Unless someone gets the bright idea to play a mass battle. 6,000 pts per side takes FOREVER! Also, doesn't leave much board space to manuever on.

lord_blackfang
01-01-2007, 23:49
1500 pts is the standard in Slovenia.

Catferret
01-01-2007, 23:55
We usually play 1500 at our local GW and club. Games are limited to 2 hours max so this points level gives you set up and pack up time as well as the all important "Mock the Opponent" phase...

There are enough points to have an enjoyable game while not allowing you everything you want forcing you to really think about army selection.

Alessander
02-01-2007, 01:18
It really depends on how much time you have to play.

I played at a game Club in Denver that started between six and seven PM on Friday nights, usually ending past 10PM (sometimes until 11). Most people were able to play one or two games of 40K, including setting up the terrain (although sometimes the club organizers would set up the tables prior to everyone showing up). The store closed at 10, but the game room had it's own exit door and the owners would just lock up the main store and lock the door between the store and the main room. They count on the club admins to keep everything clean (the door locks automatically from the inside). So, you usually have about 3-4 hours to play.

Most people had 2000 point rosters printed up and played with that. Occasionally people would join a few tables and play 2-on-2 or 3-on-3 games and people would just trim their rosters down to more managable sizes so they could finish the game by close.

The_Outsider
02-01-2007, 01:36
I guess it depends where you live.

In the UK the standard is 1500 (I believe).

IIRC the US has tendency for 1850 as their standard.


[Disclaimer] Poster maybe be full of BS.

BlakLanner
02-01-2007, 03:18
At the shop I play at, 2000-4000 is what we play normally, with 3000 being the most common. Usually takes us about 30-45min per thousand, as many of us have been playing for a while and play fairly efficiently.

Da Reddaneks
02-01-2007, 03:46
Huntsville, Alabama, USA standard game is 2000 points.

Alx_152
02-01-2007, 07:06
I usually play 2.000 points, sometimes more. The main problem is that most of my opponents do not have bigger armies.

intellectawe
02-01-2007, 07:21
1850 for tournament style playing ( for friendly games )

1500 / 2000 just for friendly games

Orbital
02-01-2007, 07:45
I play a lot of games around the 1700 mark.

I find games around 1250 to have the most "snap" to them (for lack of a better way of describing it).

The largest game I've ever played was 3500. New players tend to get excited at the thought of such a huge game, but I find it to be sort of a tangled mess. It's slow and boring and hard to bring tactics into play.

After 3500 you really have to split into two force org charts, because there just aren't enough slots in a single chart to support that many models (even if you're bringing superheavies to the table). Then you're back to 1500-2000 point lists again.

p.s. Hi Reddaneks!

crossorion
02-01-2007, 07:55
I usually play a thousand. With a dozen people usually waiting around for tables at my local store we try to have games as quickly as possible. Store's open for 10 hours of gaming on game day :P Much fun. Short games allow me to watch other people's games as well, allowing me to pick up tricks and make note of what they field and how they field it when it comes around my turn to play.

Carlos
02-01-2007, 08:01
How long is a piece of string? Twice half its length!

That said I normnally play 3-4000pts battles as I dont get to play that often and so larger battles for me at least are the way forward.

Misanthrope
02-01-2007, 09:39
1000-1500 is the most common I've seen, but I haven't seen much admitedly.

DutchSage
02-01-2007, 11:57
The most common I have seen is 1500 points, with 1700 points coming closer since the last GT had that points limit. I personally like the 1700 point games more as people seem to include more fun units for the added 200 points.

Acheron,Bringer of Terror
02-01-2007, 12:05
1499 - why ??? do YOU want to see 8 MC in the table ???

grimsnagga
02-01-2007, 12:14
We usually play 400 point Combat Patrols, but 1500 points for standard games.

Griffin
02-01-2007, 12:40
500 Point Combat Patrol - most days
1000 Battle - Fun once a week
2000 Points - Usually 4 or 5 way each controlling 2000 Points - Once a month.

eleveninches
02-01-2007, 12:45
I mostly play 2000 points games

Captain Micha
02-01-2007, 12:56
750 or 1500s is all I really play