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fattdex
10-01-2007, 00:17
As I understand, some missions involve protecting a troop transport (arvus etc), however some factions, although they have a suitable model (dreadclaw, ork landa) do not have rules. Would it be a fair thing in this case, to just proxy their transport for arvus points and rules?

Also, does every faction have an AA vehicle listed?

Spacker
10-01-2007, 07:15
As I understand, some missions involve protecting a troop transport (arvus etc), however some factions, although they have a suitable model (dreadclaw, ork landa) do not have rules. Would it be a fair thing in this case, to just proxy their transport for arvus points and rules?


That would be entirely up to your opponent. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it, especially as the Arvus has no weapons.



Also, does every faction have an AA vehicle listed?

Chaos has no AA - they only have the Hell blade and Hell talon.

orangesm
10-01-2007, 15:41
I would say Chaos does have AA - Traitor Hydras.

For transports, the Arvus or Thunderhawk are probably the best starting points to build the 'free' rules for them. I expect quiet a bit of player developed expansion of the game, possibly even sent to FW for building of additional minis.

Spacker
10-01-2007, 16:20
I would say Chaos does have AA - Traitor Hydras.


Only if using the Imperial Navy list, and so not using Hell Blades or Hell Talons. From a purely "as per the lists in the AI rulebook", Chaos does not have any AA options.



For transports, the Arvus or Thunderhawk are probably the best starting points to build the 'free' rules for them. I expect quiet a bit of player developed expansion of the game, possibly even sent to FW for building of additional minis.

The Thunderhawk is a radically different beast to the Arvus :P

How about using the Arvus, Valkyrie, or Aquila as Dreadclaws - similar transport capability, all are flyers and orbital landers in their 40k rules, the only real difference being that in the 40k rules the Valkyrie and Aquila have weapons and a Dreadclaw doesn't. The Arvus is however closer being pretty similar ruleswise to the Dreadclaw, and so makes for a fluffy addition to the Chaos list.

Lt. Co Steel
10-01-2007, 16:24
I expect quiet a bit of player developed expansion of the game, possibly even sent to FW for building of additional minis.

i agree, after all the game is still only a few weeks old, i suspect that forge world will release lots of updates over time. i mean
from what i've heard, the rules (although easy, and enjoyable to use) are still rather bare bones, there is still plently of room for expasion, for example a few special charecters and the like.

Spacker
10-01-2007, 17:18
So long as updates are not too infrequent, and hopefully released as PDFs (although I guess only experimental rules will be), then I'll be happy. If it ends up requiring a new hardback book a couple of times a year I can see the game dying pretty quickly ...

orangesm
10-01-2007, 17:40
I suspect that at least initial the updates will be unoffical and created by players to fill their wants and needs, similiar to Epic and BFG currently.

Lt. Co Steel
10-01-2007, 19:09
And then they possible get picked up forge world and added into one of they're yearly supplements, i'm looking forward to some good unoficial rules in the mean time.

Greblord
11-01-2007, 09:49
This thread is giving me ideas... those planes that can disengage by going over altitude9 could move on to a space dogfight. Scales for ships could be worked out by comparing BFG Tau Manta and Epic Tau Manta. Suffice to say, any 'proper' spaceship (even an escort) would probably act like terrain...

Forbiddenknowledge
11-01-2007, 11:50
Indeed - I have plans to make a table, at one end is the "hull" of a spaceship, and the attacker has to guide his bombers in to make a run on the hull. He has to score a certain amount of damage points to "win" and have made a successful run, while the enemy ship has Turrets studded and will launch fighters to intercept.

And as someone pointed out to me the other night - can any one say Death Star Trench Run?

Greblord
11-01-2007, 12:04
Fantastic! Looks like getting two tigersharks wasn't such a bad thing after all :)

IncrediSteve
11-01-2007, 15:27
I knew as soon as I heard about AI several months ago, I'd have to get it. But I also had to get BFG, and have to save up some extra cash to move again, and so my wallet will be sobbing in the corner again like the pocket emo that it is :rolleyes:.

My goal is to be able to play BFG, launch some strike craft at a planet, play AI for landing craft soaring in, escorts fighting off intercepters and taking AA fire, and then a 40k game determined by all the combined results. [Oh and maybe some Epic, for larger scale engagements, and Inquisitor for some assassination attempt on the general! And then Necromunda for when a virus bomb turns the planet into zombies! And then when the planet undergoes exterminatus and life starts over, I can play Fantasy and Warmaster.]