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Apologist
11-01-2007, 09:00
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Pics appear throughout; here's a preview:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0071.jpg
Hypaspist maniple

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0072.jpg
COG Combat Ogryns

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0095.jpg
True-scale Astartes Tech-aspirants

Hey guys,
Thought I'd throw up a log of the army I'm taking to Dark Stars 2007: the Braun II Skitarii.

I'm using bretonnian men-at-arms as the basis for the tech-guard; and to add something a little different, I'm going to run some squads of borg-style servitors.

Here's the first three pieces for the army; some standard (and lovely) sculpts. The campaign weekend is coming up quickly, so they're receiving a quick paintjob (that's my excuse, and I'm sticking by it).
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Firstthree.jpg
Apologies for the poor quality of the picture - it was dark when I got up this morning!

There's another three finished, but the camera ran out of puff before I could take them.

Not sure on basing yet; my cat Graham suggested urban basing, which I think would look spiffy, so I may run with that. We've got a martian board, but I'm not sure how well red-on-red would look.

Pax, fleshbags.

Bob Hunk
11-01-2007, 09:44
More exquisite models from Apologist! :D I love the details around the Tech Priests head, and it's nice to see a different coloured flame for a change.

Can't wait to see the rest. :)

omricon
11-01-2007, 09:46
more more! This is good stuff. Paintjob isnt bad either despite your self insulting of it.

Voronwe[MQ]
11-01-2007, 11:51
Skitarius early W.I.P. Thought I'd show you it for the variant Skitarii armour type and concept. Good luck with the army; it is looking too good so far!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/Img_Workshop/SkitariusIII.jpg

Voronwe

GrahamGilchrist
11-01-2007, 12:47
Wow Apologist those are looking great already!. I love the checks on the hood and like bob_hunk said, the green flame is somehow more mechanicus-like, like it was burning copper or zinc or something

Apologist
12-01-2007, 09:24
More painting done for these guys:
two more haemoncolytes; another techpriest enginseers; three tech-servitors and the Magos Militaris.

Mmm... bluralicious...
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0785.jpg

More pics here:
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/

Thanks for all the comments so far. The log should get a bit more interesting when I get to the troops.

Voronwe[MQ]
12-01-2007, 11:16
There is some very good paintings, though will you paint a cog-trim on the Magos Militaris' robes? It looks a bit unadorned compared to the Enginseers.

GrahamGilchrist's right; the green flame looks like burning zink or copper. I'll borrow this great idea for my Legio Cybernetica Cohort!

Voronwe

Apologist
12-01-2007, 12:43
Thanks for all the kinds words, cats.

Digging the concept sketch, Voronwe; my skitarii are going to have similar segmented shoulder armour.

I'm in two minds about the Magos, to be honest. I need him to look sufficiently different from the Enginseers...

Option 1: Paint a square spiral design in soft red over all of his robes; effectively embellishing him.

Option 2: Go back and paint his hood a different colour ? either a dark green-grey, or cream.

However, I'm going to hold off on changing him at the moment; until I've got a better idea of what I'm going to use as my Arch-Magos (Inquisitor Lord). Obviously the Arch-Magos will have to be more ornate (as befits his rank) than a run-of-the-mill Magos... Currently, I'm leaning towards the ][nquisitor familiar with a head swap as the basis ? sufficiently tall and sinister, and pleasingly stripped-back. I'm planning on surrounding him with homunculi, cherubim and labmats to carry all his equipment; leaving his dual brain (the second carried by a faithful servant) to deal with important stuff like strategy and tactics!

Coming up in next week's exciting update: the first models in the Servitor cell.

Stay tuned, fleshbags!

Voronwe[MQ]
12-01-2007, 15:52
Thanks for the kind words. How're you going to do the segmentation? Two, three different sizes of cut-down plastic piping? Green Stuff?

The 'square spiral' is a stylised gene double-spiral and could be used if the Magos Militaris in question has 'grades' within the Collegia Biologis. Changing the colour of the hood will not be enough, though I'd say you keep it as it is, perhaps with tiny 'cogs from the white line border-line, or maybe checks there too? You could perhaps give the robe a non-thinned-out Black Ink wash and then some stylised gene double-spirals and digits or liturgy?

Fleshbags staying tuned!

Voronwe

firestorm40k
14-01-2007, 16:00
I like this army so far, I'm really looking forward to seeing how it develops! :cool:

Voronwe[MQ]
14-01-2007, 16:02
Who don't? :)

Voronwe

Apologist
16-01-2007, 09:09
Okay, I lied about the servitors. I'm still waiting for some parts for the servitors, so I got stuck into the skitarii (infantry) themselves instead. Servitors will probably come next week sometime.

In the meantime, here's an update on the troops, and a few clearer piccies of the 'completed' stuff.

Here's how the first maniple looks (WIP):
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DemiManipleI.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DemiManipleII.jpg
They still need arms and shoulderpads on their right side; and also (perhaps) some customised guns. I used greenstuff for the hoods, but took the pictures in black and white to better demonstrate how these guys will look once primed.


Thanks for the kind words. How're you going to do the segmentation? Two, three different sizes of cut-down plastic piping? Green Stuff?
A picture's worth a thousand words:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Shoulderdetail.jpg
Essentially, two different widths of L-shaped plastic girder cut and glued together, then the corners nicked off carefully.


The 'square spiral' is a stylised gene double-spiral
I actually meant something along these lines:
http://www.sandcarveddesigns.com/A439-088_rectangular_design_anasazi_petroglyph.JPG
as I don't see the Collegia Martial being related to the Collegia Biologis... but that said, a gene-helix design would be a brill addition to the Haemolytes and Magi Biologis.

A bit of clarification for people who'd like to know more about the adeptus mechanicus... It's split into Colleges, each dealing with a different aspect of knowledge – Martial for warfare, iologis for biology, Genetor for genetics etc.

Here's a link that I found really useful for info.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Mechanicus

There are also some larger/clearer pics of the techpriests etc up at my Photobucket account:
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/

Next time: Either more complete skitarii, or the beginnings of a servitor cell.

jasevx
16-01-2007, 09:21
Looking Great!

Dominus Ex Machina
16-01-2007, 09:47
Wow, these are great! Would you mind telling me how you paint your lovely deep red? I've just ordered an inquisitor scale tech priest, and I'd love to paint him like that!

Grenader
16-01-2007, 10:11
Great conversions! I can't wait to see those Skitarii finished and so far everything is painted top notch.

Apologist
16-01-2007, 11:08
Wow, these are great! Would you mind telling me how you paint your lovely deep red? I've just ordered an inquisitor scale tech priest, and I'd love to paint him like that!

It's a pretty simply technique; the only unusual bit is how thick I use my paints – I like quite a strong 'cel-shaded' look to my miniatures, because it emphasises the angles on the models and makes them look brutal. Not a technique to use on elves!

1: Black undercoat.
2: Paint a coat of scab red. I don't water my paints down very much at all for base-painting: something like one part water to five parts paint. This will give you a rich (but not solid) colour that will be stronger in the recesses.
3: Paint a second coat of scab red, staying out of the recesses. Because of the black undercoat and the fact you're overlaying the colour that's already there in parts, it'll give you natural shading that'll look a bit like cel-shading (i.e. quite strong bands of colour).
4: Paint a thinner coat (one parts water to three paint) of 50:50 scab red and red gore on the raised areas of the cloth. This coat should cover roughly half of the area of the cloth.
5: Draw pure, neat blood red across the extreme highlights and areas you want to emphasise.

For an Inquisitor scale model, I'd recommend putting in some intermediary stages. Aside from anything else, the Inquisitor-scale ad mech sculpts have quite flat robes with few folds. Glazing with two or three coats of green, yellow or purple ink will really make the red pop at this scale.

Dominus Ex Machina
16-01-2007, 21:27
Thanks a lot! I'll experiment a bit with this before it comes to painting the real thing.

Again, thanks!

Apologist
19-01-2007, 11:58
No pics on this update, I'm afraid, but expect some on monday.
I've got stuck into my servitors (thanks to School Cormorant for the more than generous trade), and bits of metal and plastic are flying.

I've come up with a fairly simple method of integrating the lasguns into their arms; but wanted to run a quick poll about proportions in the squads.

First off, I'm using a mix of regular ol' servitors and my own custom brand of cultist/catachan servitors. I need thirty in total; so if you saw them across the table, would you prefer:
A) Two squads of cultist conversion and one squad of 'official' servitors.
or
B) Three squads, each with three or so 'official' servitors, and the rest made up of the conversions?

Following on from that, I've got lots of ideas for random technoarcana bits for the servitors... All the heavy and special weapons will be properly represented with proper guns, but I'd quite like to have one or two without their lasguns represented (to allow for the weirder stuff). Think I'll run into any WYSIWYG problems?

On a completely random note, does anyone have any gun servitors they'd be willing to sell/trade?
I'm also on the lookout for the plastic cherub from the new Empire general sprue.

Pax, fleshbags.

jasevx
19-01-2007, 12:48
Hi, think were on the same track! So what are codex are you using WH or L&D?

On the mix and match if it doesn't effect your weapon choices, id keep each type seperately.

looking great tho!

scrubout
23-01-2007, 23:29
What an excellent basis for the skittari, scrubout likes.

I'm not sure about the squad sizes question, however, I'd suggest keeping the 'count as' lasgun conversions simplistic and not 'over the top'...like the difference is there but not 'glaring'. If you understand what I 'mean'.

-peace out
scrubout:skull:

Voronwe[MQ]
24-01-2007, 07:30
Ah, very good shoulder armour! Any chance of an update?

Voronwe

Apologist
24-01-2007, 10:38
Hey all,
Apologies for the lack of updates recently. The machine-spirit of my occulobe has taken a violent dislike to my data-slate.

In addition, I've learnt the wisdom of the ancient hymnal:
'Thou shalt not use craft knives after consumption of amasec or synthale'.

No major arteries severed, but I have had to put my index finger aside for possible bionic replacement, meaning that modelling work has fallen to my middle finger – usually only used for cussin' people out.

However, excuses didn't get an army done, and I have been crashing on. Text descriptions until I can get my camera resurrected, I'm afraid:

Progress:
Servitors – all but two of the metal ones are now assembled; and the milita conversions are coming on nicely. I've found a relatively easy (though quite time-consuming) method of integrating the lasguns to servitor arms:
1: Recite the catechism of patience.
2: Deploy the unguents of cohesion (polystyrene cement) and take your craft knife safely and firmly by the grip.
3: Take a catachan pattern lasrifle and remove the stock and pistol grip. Discard.
4: Cut off the flash suppressor and set to one side.
5: Trim barrel down to the level of the support bar (the bit halfway along the barrel where the bayonet lug sits).
6: Apply poly cement to the support bar and reattach the flash suppressor so that it's upside-down.
7: Trim away the forearm of the catachan arm to a square joint, apply poly cement to the rifle where the pistol grip was, and place.
8: Decorate to taste with wires etc (I use guitar wires).

In addition, I got very enthusiastic about my praetorians, and decided to assemble one of them. It started out as a big ol' pile of bits, but I let me inner mekboy come to the fore, and I'm now the proud owner of a praetorian heavy combat servitor. Pics to come, but a rough description:
Krieger 'Krash' Thrax's head, backpack and torso mounted on a pair of ork wartrakk caterpillar tracks, with obliterator shoulderpads, and servitor power claws. There are a couple of homunculi hitching a ride and making sure it keeps going.

Apologies for the lack of updates, but I should be able to apply sacred unguents to my camera and reconcile the tech-heresy between it and my iBook.

I think I'll run with a mix of servitors in the squads: three or four metal servitors with six or seven militia-based ones. As long as the majority have lasguns, it'll be obvious what they've got.

Question:
Shoulderpads on both sides of the skitarrii?

Voronwe[MQ]
24-01-2007, 12:30
In addition, I've learnt the wisdom of the ancient hymnal:
'Thou shalt not use craft knives after consumption of amasec or synthale'.
Hah! :D


Question:
Shoulderpads on both sides of the skitarrii?
Yes! It'll look good in my opinion, perhaps with some (armoured) cables.

Voronwe

Apologist
24-01-2007, 13:40
I'm thinking about including cabling (mainly 'cause it'll look cool), probably from guitar wire...

Pfreck
24-01-2007, 13:56
This is really nice! This reminds me on The Hoff's Adeptus Mechanicus.. :)

Keep up the good work!

Voronwe[MQ]
24-01-2007, 14:48
You should do. Whatever their uses and whatever extra components you might include, there should always be cabling. Guitar wire works well, but if it will lie against the model (not being in the air) green stuff will work as well.

Voronwe

jasevx
24-01-2007, 14:52
can't wait to see more foto's!

Apologist
29-01-2007, 08:56
Ah-ha – update time. Sulking machine-spirits have been placated, so pics 'n' all!

First off, an update of the hypaspist (infantry) squads. Still WIP – another shoulder pad to go on each of them, plus cabling and (possibly) backpacks:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/HypaspistManipleWIP.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/HypaspistmanipleWIPII.jpg
Individual shot.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/ExampleHypaspist.jpg

Next, the Magos militaris.I couldn't get hold of the RT-era techpriest that I wanted to use:
http://www.solegends.com/citcat911/c2034impforces-01.jpg
(Seen here as Adeptus Mechanicus 3)

...So I had a go at reimagining him. Here's the results.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/MagosII.jpg
I just love the base model, and I think he works very nicely as a techpriest. This guy counts as an Inquisitor in-game.

Apologist
29-01-2007, 09:02
More updates... the Magos Militaris' retinue:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Lectorwithcombi-plasma.jpg
This fellow is a Lector with a combi-plasma. Lectors counts as Acolytes from Codex: Witchhunters.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Lectorwithcombi-melta.jpg
Lector number two – this time with a combi-melta.

I rather liked the idea of this Magos specialising in either the Collegia Biologis, or the Collegia Cybernetica – hence the chemical suits.

Talking of the Collegia cybernetica, here's a Praetorian combat servitor. 'Praetorians are designed to intimidate, and if necessary, obliterate'.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Praetorianfrontright.jpg
Fit the bill? You'll notice a couple of little homunculi perched on the back and walking alongside him. These little blokes are some of my favourite bits of the adeptus mechanicus artwork, and I just couldn't resist dotting them around the army. Keep an eye out for them!

More updates to come – but don't want to flood!

jasevx
29-01-2007, 09:15
looking great! your leaving me behind on my ad mech project!

T_55
29-01-2007, 09:19
Fantastic conversions! The guardsmen look just great and the Magos Militaris retinue is looking good as well, thats a very cool boltgun one of them is holding, where did you get it from? The preatorian servitor looks very cool as well, though his right arm is rather small!

Voronwe[MQ]
29-01-2007, 09:23
Great conversions! The way you've changed the Vostroyan sniper is great, and the rest are equally good!

Voronwe

Apologist
29-01-2007, 10:03
Thanks for the kind words, fleshbags :D

The boltgun is a combi-plasma from the Space Marine command sprue.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Praetorianleft.jpg
Another shot of the Praetorian, showing the homunculus hitching a ride.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/ServitorcellWIP.jpg
WIP pic of the servitor cell; and the electropriest.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/ServitorwithBraunpatternintegratedl.jpg
Close-up of a Braun-pattern integrated lasgun.

Apologist
29-01-2007, 13:32
Final update for the day, I promise!

The piece-dι-resistance of the force so far; my Arch-Magos Militaris [Inquisitor Lord]

Front
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/FrontleftofArch-Magos.jpg
Back
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/BackofArch-Magos.jpg

Twenty-five(ish) pieces in this model, plue brass and guitar wire.

Here's his retinue:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Arch-Magosandretinue.jpg

Workspace.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Workspace.jpg

There's a real ad-mech frenzy going on at the mo – I'm loving everyone's different interpretations of the background. Kudos out to The Hoff and others for inspiration; and thanks for all the comments and critique.

More to come next week – and an opportunity for better pics taken by my cat Graham; so let me know if there's any detail(s) you'd like to see a little better.

Apologist
29-01-2007, 13:32
Pics taken from previous post – didn't quite fit!
Haemoncolyte:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/HaemoncolytetoArch-Magos.jpg
Gun-servitor with ammo homunculus
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/GunServitorandammohomunculus.jpg

Boss_Salvage
29-01-2007, 16:19
Again, the combi-lector is such a simple, awesome conversion - so much so that it might get stolen, watch out! :D

Is the praetorian 'just' a combat servitor, rules-wise? Pity, as he's so monstrous ;)

- Salvage

IJW
29-01-2007, 16:27
Talking of the Collegia cybernetica, here's a Praetorian combat servitor. 'Praetorians are designed to intimidate, and if necessary, obliterate'.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Praetorianfrontright.jpg
Fit the bill?
It certainly does fit the bill! Can't wait to see this one painted.

Apologist
29-01-2007, 16:37
I got a little carried away with the Praetorian (as you can probably see!)

Weirdly enough, I don’t actually like the idea of giant ogryn-style Praetorians – I much prefer the smaller size ‘enhanced-human’ style.

Options I'm considering:
1: Leave him as a display piece
2: Use him as a Crusader henchman (WS4, power weapon and 4+inv) makes him a bit better and more interesting.
3: Sentinel proxy with heavy flamer? Perhaps the FW power-lifter sentinel rules?
4: Sell him on for spare parts... that way I could afford the bits I need to finish the army!

At the moment, he’s just going to be a nice model for display – I can’t justify him being a bog-standard combat servitor.

Boss_Salvage
29-01-2007, 16:41
I much prefer the smaller size ‘enhanced-human’ style.
With you there, more interesting that way. Kinda kooky to use him as a crusader, but it's that or the powerlifter sentinel. The sentinel actually isn't that bad of an idea, provides a cool and different unit to play with - and the rules fit the praetorian well enough (AV 10 open-topped though, for a construct that is clearly T5 & W3 or so :chrome:).

- Salvage

Apologist
30-01-2007, 13:38
The more I think about it, the more I like the Sentinel idea. I'll have to have a dig around and check out the rules etc. It'll also give my techpriest enginseers something to do!

Talking about Enginseers, I had a quick thought – I'm really tempted to use the Techpriest Enginseer models as the sergeants for my skitarri. I absolutely love the models – they're a big reason why I picked the force, so I'd love to make more use of them.

Obviously there're only two poses, so it'll be quite restrictive – but I've only got three squads in my main force, so it wouldn't be too bad.

Assuming I leave off the backpacks and do a proper weapon swap; do you foresee any potential confusion issues?

I'm going to give the skitarii grey robes with red hoods – so this should distinguish the sergeants from the 'proper' enginseers (who will be all in red).

If I do run with this idea, I'll probably put the rest of the magi and the Enginseers on 40mm bases to help point out which guys are important – which will further differentiate them.

Thoughts? Any ideas to make the difference obvious?

I got a comment on another forum that the Arch-magos and his homunculi look a little crowded on the 40mm base; and I think I agree. I did originally have him on a 60mm base, but he looked a little swamped (he's not a huge model). Options are:
1: Leave him as is.
2: Put him and the crew on a 60mm base.
3: Put him and the crew on a 60mm base, and add an extra homunculus.
4: Remove the banner-bearing homunculus and leave the Arch-Magos on the 40mm base.

I appreciate any feedback on these two problems; plus any thoughts on the army in general.

OnnO
30-01-2007, 14:54
my 2 c's: leave as is, the crowded base enhances the weirdness of this fellow.
AM should be scary and weird. The small base gives him a kind of "claustrofobic feel".

But that's just me :)

jasevx
30-01-2007, 15:01
I read the message on Yahoo, it is a little crowded, but looks good for it. It's down to personal taste

Apologist
30-01-2007, 16:16
In the interests of getting the army complete, I'll probably leave the Arch-Magos as is, then.

Any thoughts on the Techpriest Enginseers as sergeants?

Jimbobjeff
30-01-2007, 16:33
How about counting the praetorian as a penitant engine? it certainly looks big and scary enough.

Apologist
30-01-2007, 16:41
Not an option I can take for Dark Stars, unfortunately – I'm using Guard with Witchhunter Allies, so I can't take any Inquisitorial heavy support.

Great idea for casual play though – thanks!

jasevx
30-01-2007, 16:46
Right, you are running the Codex set up as me for Admech.

My Preatorians are classed as 'Battle Sisters', The armour value is bang on.

Techpriest Enginseers will work if you bulk them out with combat and gun servitors. At least it's an independent character and won't 'dissapear' like the rest of the Squad!

omricon
30-01-2007, 16:55
jasevx, I think I have a plastic red beret stormtrooper hanging around, is this what you wanted?

Apologist
31-01-2007, 10:18
Praetorians as Sisters of Battle, eh? That's quite a neat idea. I assume the acts of faith represent experimental tech?


Techpriest Enginseers will work if you bulk them out with combat and gun servitors. At least it's an independent character and won't 'dissapear' like the rest of the Squad!

I don't have the points for gun servitors, so I'm using them to add some punch to various other squads. With their power axes, servo-arm attack and decent armour save, they're nice to add punch to any assaulty-orientated squads (in theory).

In addition, a 15pt signum makes them useful to guard heavy weapons teams; providing an additional wound, a re-roll to hit and a higher LD.

Omricon; you may have a little update for your glowing Thousand Sons, come the weekend. ;)

jasevx
31-01-2007, 10:35
Omricon, yup thats what I'm after, the original stormtroopers!

Anything you need, let me know, and we could do a swap.

Apologist, Remember when you take certain squads with S of B, you can take the Immolator with them as 'transport', and that packs a serious punch. It might be worth making an AdMech version, again something I'm working on!

Apologist
31-01-2007, 13:39
Hey all,
Quick update.

This fellow is an Inquisitor-scale familiar, and since I'm pressed for time, I thought I might rope him in as a Transmat psychic servitor [Penitent henchman].

I was really pleased with the porcelain-white skin effect I got on him, and he'll slot right into the army.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Eddsguard039.jpg
What do you think?

Finally, any word on using Techpriest models as sergeants as well as Enginseers proper?

Pax, fleshbags!

jasevx
31-01-2007, 13:58
Looking Great!

The thread on the other forum answers the Tech point. I think the best bet is to go with it and give the Gunners Cyber parts, so if anyone gets shirty, say its a servitor in a Stormtrooper uniform! 95% of players won't have a problem with it, it's the 5% who ruin the tournaments tho!

Voronwe[MQ]
31-01-2007, 14:01
Good skin tone on the little bugger - and using Enginseers as sergeants is all very well. As I see it there is at least two general types of 'sergeants' in Skitarii squads: Skitarius veterans (complete with bionics etc) and tech-priests Militarius accompanying the squads.

Voronwe

VERITAS/AEQUITAS
11-02-2007, 21:27
Love those models A LOT !! The Bretonian Man at arms converted to Skitarri is a brilliant idea. Keep it coming!

Apologist
12-02-2007, 11:28
Hey all,
Apologies for the long delay in updating – but a great blitz of modelling last weekend has left the army shaping up quite nicely. I finally bit the bullet and made up another thirty tech-guardsmen – with shoulderpads on both sides. Looking a little more closely at the original squad, I decided that the shoulderpads were far too high up, so I took 'em off and replaced them parallel with the ground.

New shoulderpads have made them look decidely beefier, so you can await some painting in progress piccies this week. After the most relaxing weekend ever, I'm raring to go on these guys.

I also decided to try and fit the Lectors in with the standard tech-guard, so I went back and gave them the angled shoulder pads too – this has also helped camouflage the origin of the arms.

Final modelling considerations. I'm toying with the idea of adding backpacks and altering the lasguns somehow... but with time slipping away, I'm in a fix whether to run with standardised guns, or go for a full-on new pattern.

On a final note, I can't claim to have come up with the idea of using Bretonnian men-at-arms – that particular laurel goes to Hortwerth, who along with The Hoff showed me that it was possible to put together a good-looking and distinctive AM army. Cheers guys, and I hope you're liking the look of the army you helped spawn!

Boss_Salvage
12-02-2007, 15:50
w00t for impending updates! Loving this army so far, very excited for new (painted?!) pics.

And you probably said it earlier, but what's your deadline? Tounry coming up??

- Salvage

Apologist
27-02-2007, 13:21
Hey fleshbags!

I thought that I'd lost this blog when the forums got updated, so thanks to Voronwe[MQ] for posting a link to me to allow me to update it again. Thanks also for the compliment in guiding someone else this way... Might have to thank you somewhere in the army for that. :)

First off, a bit of bad news – having booked my ticket along with the rest of my gaming group for Dark Stars (the original deadline, to answer your question Boss_Salvage), we were told that GW had messed up the ticket-selling, and that some of our tickets were not going to be honoured.

Needless to say, we were a bit gutted, and we've decided to all pull out, rather than for some of us to go along and not others.

Good news: Instead of Darks Stars, we're going to go along to another weekend somewhere else – probably the Spiky! club campaign weekend in May in Reading.

Also, updates:
(Apologies for double-posting this bit about servitors; but as I mentioned earlier, I thought the blog had been deleted – serves me right for not updating in so long!)

The Genetors of Braun II grow tactical servitors in vast vat-factories. While the vast majority will become labmats monotask servitors, the most promising are intravenously fed a rich protein, biotin and steroid-laced soup to stimulate and regulate bone and muscle growth, and groomed to become the elite Praetorians.

This process is extremely difficult to control, and only a few ever make it to full term. Of these, perhaps one in a hundred will have developed sufficiently to warrant conversion to Praetorian.

Roughly half of the surviving germ-servitors show sufficient physical stability to warrant conversion into tactical combat servitors. These are loaded with standard short-pattern carbines, rudimentary fieldcraft programming and organised into cells of between six and ten servitors.

Servitor Cell Delphic Minus, seconded to the Braun II Skitarii regiment; immediately prior to combat in the Veda Warrens
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0851.jpg

Unable to make sound tactical decisions on their own, the cells are typically seconded to experienced skitarii (tech-guardsmen), and used to break enemy lines. The large muscle bulk and resilience of the servitors makes them effective close-fire troops; and they are particularly sought out by the tech-priests of the Collegia Electrica, as they are some of the few foot-troops that can support the electropriests effectively in combat.

Coming up, hypaspists...

Apologist
28-02-2007, 09:06
Hey all,

Hypaspists form the bulk of skitarii regiments, and are the most common type of soldier used by the Ademptus Mechanicus. Well equipped and trained to the same level as most Imperial Guard regiments from civilised worlds, hypaspists are good infantry, able to deal with most battlefield situations due to a varied array of weaponry and inspired by their fanatical devotion to the Machine God.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0860.jpg
Regiments from Braun organise their hypasists into maniples of between six and fifteen men, but most commonly ten. Each maniple includes a heavy weapons team and an exotic weapons specialist. The heavy weapons are typically lighter, more portable versions of the weapons employed by the sagitarii. This detail shows a 'Vanquisher' man-portable heavy bolter.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0858.jpg
Hypaspist maniples are well-led, and aspirant Techpriests from the Collegia Militaris are often assigned to maniples to assist with their battlefield nous. This detail shows two aspirant techpriests flanking a Techpriest from the Collegia Electrica – one of the feared 'Electro-priests'. Note his power cabling and conductor-mace.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0864.jpg

Comments and critique welcome!

Apologist
28-02-2007, 09:13
Obviously all the above are work in progress; as are the below.
Here's the magos militaris and arch-magos militaris.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0852.jpg

A Lector with combi-plasma, a Haemocolyte and an Autolocutor.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0863.jpg

A lector with combi-melta.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0865.jpg

A direct link to the servitor cell.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0851.jpg

Imp of High Noon
28-02-2007, 10:07
Marvellous!

jasevx
28-02-2007, 10:15
Looking amazing!

Boss_Salvage
28-02-2007, 15:22
All is looking great, and I like the fluffy intro to the models and their equipment. The lector with combi-plasma and the haemo are still up there in my favorites category :)

- Salvage

dave is the best
28-02-2007, 18:49
Wow they are inspireing. I love the fluff of all your units. How long does it take you to convert all your models?

What did you use for heads on your troops?

DAve

Apologist
01-03-2007, 10:13
Hey all,
Another day, another batch of painting. Looks like the new brush implant on my mechadendrite is settling in nicely.


The lector with combi-plasma and the haemo are still up there in my favorites category :)
- Salvage

And just for you, here's some pics of the Lector painted (well, okay, others can see as well).

Lectors are full members of the Cult Mechanicus, but not yet qualified priests. They are generally either sponsored by a Magos of one of the Colleges, or inherit the title by right of birth. Magi are often accompanied by two or three Lectors, who follow them in all their duties, and are taught the Mysteries of the machine by word of mouth and demonstration.
In the case of the Collegia Militaris, Lectors are often issued with experimental or ancient archeotech; giving them a lethal punch on the battlefield and leaving the Magos to contemplate and coordinate battlefield tactics.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Lectorwithcombi-plasmarightside.jpg

And in addition... here's the Magos Militaris.
The Collegia Militaris is one of the oldest and most influential of the colleges, being founded pre-heresy and charged with the development, production and maintenance of all basic weaponry and armour; as well as training and application thereof.
The Magi militaris approach war as a solvable religious equation; applying pressure and firepower where it is most needed, following the proscriptions of the Codex Imperialis. In addition, the Librarium Militaris, (housed on Mars) contains folios, books, scrolls, crystal stack data and myriad other forms of information pertaining to the wagin of war. All aspirant Tech-priests of the Collegia Militaris are expected to successfully lead their troops into battle, from the Devotion of Fortitude to reciting the Laurel Hymnals of victory.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/MagosMilitarisfront.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/MagosMilitarisleftside.jpg

GrahamGilchrist
01-03-2007, 11:11
Sweet! and blurrilicious ;)

OnnO
01-03-2007, 11:26
Wow, I love that converted Vostroyan Sniper...

What did you do to it and any chance on 360 degree pics?
(Yes I'm considering stealing the idea :) )

Apologist
01-03-2007, 12:07
Wow they are inspireing. I love the fluff of all your units.
Cheers! This army has been in the back of my head for about ten years, so I've had a lot of time to think about 'em! That said, I tend to make it up as I go along, and then rewrite the fluff as more ideas come to me – hence why the Lectors have gone through being variously called Tyros, Adminsitratii, Magi Minoris, Praefectii etc. I like Lectors, and it's supported by the canon fluff too. Praise the Machine God!


How long does it take you to convert all your models? Not all that long actually. This is the first time I've invested in some proper modelling tools, and it's really helped me out. The conversions in my previous army (which can be seen here:
http://s103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Lambs%20World%20XXVII/) took a long time, mainly because I had nothing except a pen and a craft knife. The skitarii are pretty quick for two reasons:
1) Production line method – the Lamb's Worlders were a lot more individual, but I wanted skitarii to look as though they're marching into battle in lines.
2) Better materials, and a lot more planning.
The shoulderpads and ankle supports were the most time-consuming part of the drive, but I got twenty assembled in an evening.


What did you use for heads on your troops?
A mix of catachans, cadians, Van Saar, Bretonnian men-at-arms, Space marines, chaos space marines, eldar, tau(!), scouts, RT-era troopers and all sorts of other bits – including bionic bits carefully cut from bionic eyes, gunsights etc and attached to faces. There's a lot of weird stuff, but as long as you trim it down carefully and plan before assembling, you'll be fine.


Wow, I love that converted Vostroyan Sniper...
What did you do to it?
Pretty simple – right arm and left forearm are from cadian sprue, left hand is from catachan sprue. Shoulderpads are made from three sizes of L-shaped plasticard cut into short (approx 1.5mm wide) sections, which then had two corners knocked of each piece off at 45 degree angles. These sections were then assembled to make a shoulder pad (I did sixty or so at the same time, to allow me to do it quickly. Dead easy – if you're careful, you can watch TV or chat or whatever). The original shoulder pad was trimmed down and the new ones applied. Combi-plasma is from the Marine Commander sprue, and it was carefully mated with the stock that's moulded on the cadian arm – I figured a guardsman, even cybernetically enhanced, was going to need a little help to aim!
Other than that, he's stock. There're some WIP piccies in my photobucket account with standard round shoulder pads.


any chance on 360 degree pics?
(Yes I'm considering stealing the idea )
Steal away! If my ideas can help spread the holy word of the Machine God, then all the better.

S'later.

Apologist
01-03-2007, 12:10
Lector from front:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Lectorwithcombi-plasmafront.jpg

Apologist
01-03-2007, 13:31
Hey all,
Final update for today – here's my Arch-magos and a couple of members of his retinue.
Arch-Magos is an honorific reserved for the most senior members of a particular college; those members who will be among the most learned practicioners of that college's science.

In terms of rank, an Arch-Magos Militaris is roughly analogous to the most senior commanders of the Imperial Guard, and stands outside of Imperial jurisdiction.

As members of the Adeptus Mechanicus, they act almost with impunity, enjoying freedom almost on Inquisitorial levels; which has historically caused a great deal of friction between the Imperium and this most commensual of relationships. By and large, the Forge Worlds are happy with their semi-autonomous existence within the Imperium; keeping mainly to themselves and their unfathomable researches.

Many Arch-Magi extend their natural lifespan with genetic, bionic, cybernetic or chemical means; and almsot without exception are exceptionally cunning and dangerous to their enemies. While they may appear physically weak, most have a variety of enhancements or defensive systems that make them respectable combatants, and nowhere is this more true than Magi from the Collegias Electrica and Militaris.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Arch-Magosandretinuemembersfront.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Arch-Magosandretinuemembersback.jpg

Group shot of painted troops so far.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/WholeGroup.jpg
Comments, questions and critique welcome.

francisnobody
01-03-2007, 13:41
Your work is great!
I've been thinking of starting an Ad mech army for a while now and this thread is really inspirational. Nice one.

Zachariah
01-03-2007, 13:58
WOW! Those boys look amazing. I hope you haven't given up on this project.

Boss_Salvage
01-03-2007, 16:01
Flying right along now!

They look great en masse, and the blue fire is very awesome with the red, white and yellow. The only thing I don't like is the combat servitor skin, which I was hoping was WIP before. It's basically the same blue as the fire/weapon glow, which just throws me a bit. Your skin tone is nice on the sergeant and follower guy and such, I would have prefered you do a similar but more white and drained tone on the servitors. Or do their skin like the gun servitors in the retinue, that grayish stuff.

Just my two cents though. Everything else is ace, especially together.

- Salvage

Apologist
01-03-2007, 16:18
Yeah, I'm not at all happy with the servitors at the moment. I think they're going to get a lot of glazing with purples and yellow to mute the green-blue, then highlight them up to get a greyer looking skintone.

I was worried that they'd look too dull if they had grey skin and black 'clothing'; but the green-blue just looks wrong.

schoolcormorant
01-03-2007, 16:23
servitor skin 101# :D
basecoat of tanned flesh
wash of tanned flesh/regal blue
add fortress grey to tanned flesh and highlight
more fortress grey
skull white highlights.

sorry for the abruptness of that :p
the armies shaping up well, i like the vostroyan sniper conversion, the blue flames are really cool, i was wanting to try that sometime and never got up the courage, but it looks really good there.

nice work mate :)
SC

Voronwe[MQ]
01-03-2007, 23:01
Amazing models, paintjobs and background! It's got to be the best Adeptus Mechanicus army I've ever seen! Following this as addictedly as ever before. :)

Voronwe

Zachariah
02-03-2007, 00:07
Sorry as this is unrelated... but, I'm dumb. I forgot the forum lists the date as: day, then month.... sorry.

Apologist
02-03-2007, 09:54
Hey all,

servitor skin 101# :D
basecoat of tanned flesh
wash of tanned flesh/regal blue
add fortress grey to tanned flesh and highlight
more fortress grey
skull white highlights.

That seems like a nice simple scheme; so I'll try it out. Cheers SC. As to your comments on the flames, let me ramble about the idea behind this army.

Back in the mists of time (well, mid 2nd edition), the metal Imperial Guard came out, and I'd pick up a box of each of them. I ended up with a real rag-tag army. Not rag-tag in a good way, but rag-tag in the way that it simply didn't look like an army – just a collection of toy soldiers.

I liked the Catachans best of all, and managed to get a couple more boxes secondhand, so I painted them up all in the same way. This metal army (if anyone's interested in buying it, let me know!) was followed by a metal Cadian army in a green scheme. I was pleased with this, as it finally looked like a proper army.

Both of these were pretty drab colour schemes, and while fairly 'realistic', didn't look that nice on the table.

These guys were followed by a cityfight schemed plastic cadian army. Again, very dull, but much better painted...

After Dark Stars 2005, I sat down and thought 'I really want a brighter coloured army', so the desert-schemed Lamb's Worlders were made, and I really learnt a lot about the impact of colour, and became far more experimental with flashes and accent colours.

This new ad mech army is thus my sixth guard army. What the others all had in common was a very strict uniform within the army. I really like a uniform effect; and the challenges I set myself in this army were:
1) Produce a visually interesting (and preferably unique) army.
2) Learn to paint red.
3) Try new techniques.

The point of this rather rambling post is simple – all of us only get better through practice and challenging ourselves, and that's the best part of the hobby. My advice is to set yourself difficult targets, and keep going. You'll never reach them, but you'll constantly improve – and once you realise it's the process and not the result that's the point of a hobby, you'll find yourself much better able to relax and enjoy every aspect of the hobby.

In short, have a go at flames, SC – you'll be able to pull it off! :D

jasevx
02-03-2007, 10:32
Sc can paint, he's just a wuss! ;)

Ad Mech is my favourite theme, but my son's doing it so I'm not going to step on his toes. He does check this thread for inspiration every night, so keep up the good work!

schoolcormorant
02-03-2007, 14:51
Sc can paint, he's just a wuss! ;)

Jasevx, i'm used to bullying, i was bullied about as much as a kid called regina at school ;)

you're right about seting targets - it's annoying when you don't reach them but something good tends to come up in the process.

SC

jasevx
02-03-2007, 15:13
He he, after Hoff, I class SC as the best here at the mo, so no excuses!

What vehicles are you going to do to back these troops up?

Apologist
02-03-2007, 15:18
Ah see, that would be telling...

*Whispers*
I'm putting together a Demolisher, and probably a couple of Chimeras. I've got a few ideas about how I want them to look...


Jasevx, i'm used to bullying, i was bullied about as much as a kid called regina at school.
Well, that's what happens when you get caught in the stock cupboard with the school cormorant.

jasevx
02-03-2007, 15:20
I never went near the stock cupboard! It was the bike sheds...

Apologist
05-03-2007, 14:13
Not really an update, but I came up with some more background fluff to expand the regiment's background, and thought you might like it.

Magi of the Collegia Militaris employ all manner of unusual technologies in persectuing their campaigns, making them extremely difficult to predict.
This particular Magos, fighting on the J'rel-controlled world Lu-mol is employing a Mark II compress-rebreather to compensate for the haline-rich atmosphere. The tiny pack provides enough breathable air for 48 hours combat, and the oxygen/nitrogen ratio can be adjusted to provide a crude anaesthetic/combat drug.
Note the Persecutrix-class servo-skull. This is almost certainly radio- rather than neuro-linked; as the transmitter beacon is clearly visible. Relatively crude technology such as this is common amongst the Magi Militaris, as ease of repair and resupply makes more outrι items more difficult to keep functional. This probably also accounts for the Magos' bolt pistol armament; thought this could simply be personal preference.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/MagosMilitarisleftside.jpg

This view (below) shows the magos' Mars Pattern I servoharness; incorporating a recharge point for his accompanying servo skull, combat attachment and plasma-coil.
As an aside, this extremely popular servoharness is the basis for the Mars Ih-pattern harness, used by Astartes Apothecarian personnel.
Note the multi-pattern spotlight (right shoulder). This projects in X-ray bands to accommodate unusual combat situations. The Magos probably has infra-red and ultraviolet-sensitive ocular implants, as the Codex: Imperialis proscribes multi-band vision enhancers as extremely useful, and it would be very unusual for a Magos Militaris to be without some functionality in this regard.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/MagosMilitarisback.jpg
Note also the modal automitter (right shoulder). This rare device is manufactured on the forgeworld of Graia, and provides the bearer with a gravity-based mass-sensitive system – perfect for detecting stealthed enemy, those that do not register on the electromagnetic spectrum or that would otherwise remain completely invisible. Use of the automitter requires substantial cybernetic neural implants to allow the human brain to become capable of using a new, mass-based sense.
The presence of the automitter allows us to date this pict-capture to the Hirll Vengeance crusade, when the Braun II regiment engaged the Umbra on board the Emperor-class starship Foebane.

He is also bearing an extremely rare piece of proscribed xeno-technology, the Varelli Stealth Field. This projects a baffle of electromagnetic chaff across the whole spectrum, disabling and confusing sensor equipment. This accounts for the poor quality of the pict-capture. ;)
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/MagosMilitarisfront.jpg

Boss_Salvage
05-03-2007, 16:27
Great read and breakdown of the model. Incidently, I like to think the model came first and the fluff was built off of that base - the radio linked skull for example.

- Salvage

Apologist
05-03-2007, 16:39
Model first, fluff second

Absolutely right. Much easier that way! :D

Apologist
06-03-2007, 12:11
Hey all,
Minor update. I took some better photos of the Lector with combi-plasma and realised I hadn't shown a close-up of the Optio.

Roughly equivalent in rank are the Tech-Guard master-sergeants, more properly titled Optio – tough, battle-hardened warriors that have fought their way up the ranks of the skitarii. Most (though not all) are inducted into the lowest level of the Cult Mechanicus, and granted an honorific battleaxe as a sign of their devotion.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/LectorandSergeantfront.jpg
In the study above, the Lector (left) is bearing a Phaeton-pattern combi-plasma. Operating as a standard boltgun, this weapon has two fire modes; single-shot and three-burst automatic. In addition, it has a plasma vial containing enough ammunition for a single burst of plasma fire, with an effective range of 300yards. Beyond this range, the plasma is disippated to virtually harmless levels, owing to the size of the magnetic coil, approximately 25 per cent of the size of a Ryza pattern Executioner-pattern plasma rifle, the most common plasma rifle in current use across the Segmentum Solar. Despite the short range and low ammunition capacity, the addition of the underslung plasma rifle gives the Lector (and the Magos he accompanies) a great deal of tactical options regarding armoured targets.
Note also the Lector's Telemask; a complex device that contains a phase tracker (allowing battlefield analysis of projected movement of up to three designated targets) in addition to standard multi-band image enhancement.

Many skitarii are extremely superstitious, and the Optio (right) is no exception. A number of charms hang from his belt loops, including an ornamented purifex (containing lubricant blessed by a Magos of the Collegia Cybernetica), and a holy ikon in the shape of an honorific screwdriver. The design marks him out as a member of House Philips-Head.
He is armed with a simple bladed axe, shaped to mimic an Enginseer's valaska, and an unusual antique Necromunda-pattern laspistol, almost certainly a treasured family relic or gifted to him for some feat-at-arms.
Note the Optio's robes mimic those of an Enginseer. He is marked out as being under the auspices and command of the Collegia Militaris by the yellow chequer patterns on his robes.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/LectorandSergeantfromback.jpg
This view from the rear shows that the Lector is wearing a scrim-net camocloak. While this may seem unusually low-tech for such a warrior, the Collegia Militaris makes use of all levels of technology equally, applying the correct amount of resources where needed. A common myth amongst Imperial Guardsmen is that skitarii regiments are 'better-equipped' than them, the cause of numerous complaints and grumbling. In fact, skitarii are often given only the most basic of equipment – protective robes and a lasgun – as a result of the commanding Magos' whim, or available requisition. The skitarii rely as much on the courage of the men under their command as any regular guard regiment.
Note the plasma-coil on the Optio's backpack. The searchlight he carries must be modified in some way to necessitate the massive amounts of power this coil can provide. It is possible it has been altered to provide a halide strobe; one of the numerous battlefield modifications improvised to fight the light-fearing umbra during the Hirll Vengenace crusade.

If you've got any questions of comments about either the fluff or the modelling/painting, do please let me know and I'll do my best to let you know.

Thanks again for all of your kind comments, support and suggestions. It really does keep me motivated to keep painting. Also – thanks to all of you who've voted – getting five stars makes me feel both really happy, and also a bit like a waiter at a McDonalds restaurant.

Pax, fleshbags.

jasevx
06-03-2007, 13:22
Just mind inspiring!

Apologist
13-03-2007, 11:18
Update time!

First off, a better pic of the Magos Militaris.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0926.jpg

Now new stuff: Work in progress Praefectii.

Praefectii are veteran skitarii equipped with specialist or upgraded equipment and are frequently use to accompany Centurion or Tribune rank officers. The maniple here has been upgraded with a variety of non-standard rebreather masks, incorporating all manner of specialist cybernetic enhancements. For example, the Praefect on the far left wears a Mark XII Braun-pattern rebreather with an olofactory enhancer, while the Praefect on the second left wears a Naogeddon-pattern rebreather, incorporating the virtually standard 'Hawkeye' telephasic ocular enhancer.
The entire maniple seems to be lacking arms – it is likely they are awaiting for bionic upgrades or a fleshgraft, both common techniques.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0923.jpg

Hypaspist century:
The most common formation for Braun skitarii regiments is the Century; roughly analogous to an Imperial Guard platoon.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0919.jpg

Sagitarii Maniple:
Sagitarii are the most favoured skitarii infantry; granted the right to bring death to the Machine-God's enemies through long-range heavy weapons fire, or deploying the most esoteric and unusual weaponry in a Forgeworld's armouries.
While 'Sagitarius' is a designation rather than a rank, the soldiers of the Sagitarius corps are looked on with a mix of awe and envy by the line hypaspists, and frequently receive preferential treatment by the officer corps. That said, Sagitarii represent the Machine God made flesh, and are thrown into the most dangerous battlefield situations, reliant only on their skill-at-arms and the knowledge that big guns never tire.
This maniple is equipped with Avenger-pattern heavy bolters. Note the breath masks necessary to minimise inhalation of the copper finings produced by this weapon's unusual ejection system. All three gunners are wearing full-spectrum 'Wolf' visors, valuable archaeotech from the Age of Apostasy
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DCP_0912.jpg

Comments and critique welcome, as always.

jasevx
13-03-2007, 11:23
Great use of the Scout Sprue Apologist!

Apologist
13-03-2007, 13:26
Great use of the Scout Sprue Apologist!

Cheers.

A couple of questions:
1) Are the sagitarii sufficiently different to the hypaspists?
2) Braun is a very silly name. Any suggestions for a new one?

jasevx
13-03-2007, 13:33
I think they are, might be worth just giving them a 'difference' marking on one of the shoulderpads (ie: they are 'stepped' so paint the middle 'step' a different colour.

To be honest, being Ad Mech, is Braun a Forgeworld or Knight World?

If Mars is the home base, call yours snickers? ;)

Honestly, you look at the Forgeworlds, there isn't a set pattern, something like 'Philodonous' or 'Minosaurous' sound right.

Boss_Salvage
13-03-2007, 16:27
Nice to see new stuff, and more wonderful fluffy accompaniaments. Fleshgrafts, indeed! Everything looks awesome, and I'm only sad that I assume the sagitarii are merely a heavy weapons platoon ... aye? The praefectii are stormtroopers, correct? Though honestly all of them are awesome, I'm just curious as to the list.


Braun II is a fine name, you ask me. Very different from the tired pseudo-latin-garble that is typically splashed on planets / tanks / banners / etc.

- Salvage

Apologist
13-03-2007, 17:22
might be worth just giving them a 'difference' marking on one of the shoulderpads (ie: they are 'stepped' so paint the middle 'step' a different colour.
This is a spiffy idea. Perhaps the middle step could be yellow for hypaspists, chequered for praefectii and dagged for sagitarii... I'll have to experiment.


is Braun a Forgeworld or Knight World?
It's a Forge World. Not so keen on the Knight World background, and it seems to have been phased out, by and large.


If Mars is the home base, call yours snickers?
You have no idea how tempted I am to rename it 'Marathon VI' now!


Nice to see new stuff, and more wonderful fluffy accompaniaments. Fleshgrafts, indeed! Everything looks awesome, and I'm only sad that I assume the sagitarii are merely a heavy weapons platoon ... aye? The praefectii are stormtroopers, correct? Though honestly all of them are awesome, I'm just curious as to the list.
Apologies for this, I'd completely forgotten to post up the WIP army list. You will be pleased to hear that there are various bits and pieces to make the army feel different to a regular guard army... I'll get the list and post it up soon. Suffice to say that these sagitarii represent the more mobile elements of the corps...


Braun II is a fine name, you ask me. Very different from the tired pseudo-latin-garble that is typically splashed on planets / tanks / banners / etc.
An elegant point. Maybe I'll stick with it after all...

Thanks for all your comments and critique, cats – it's much appreciated, and really makes putting an army together fun.

'Til next time, fleshbags!

omricon
13-03-2007, 19:41
nice WIP, very good stuff there and dont change the name :)

old guard
13-03-2007, 19:52
Some really nice work there chap! looking forward to sein them painted and hope to see them in the flesh, so to speak, one day.

fleshcross
13-03-2007, 21:07
Very nice work so far!

What torsos/legs are you using from the Praefecti/Hypaspists? I'm assuming something from Fantasy, but I don't play Fantasy.

Boss_Salvage
13-03-2007, 21:36
Suffice to say that these sagitarii represent the more mobile elements of the corps...

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh so! Slave levies FTW?!

- Salvage

Strelok
13-03-2007, 22:39
Damn all of you making these awesome fluff-riddled AdMech armies... I have too many projects going already, I can't afford any more!!!!

MF3000
13-03-2007, 23:22
Simply amazing stuff...

sj

Apologist
14-03-2007, 11:32
Fleshcross:
What torsos/legs are you using from the Praefecti/Hypaspists? I'm assuming something from Fantasy, but I don't play Fantasy.
Exactly right – it's the Bretonnian Men-at-arms. They come with torso and legs as one piece.

Salvage:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh so! Slave levies FTW?!
Yep – at least for friendly games. I'm heading up to the Spiky! campaign weekend in Reading (in lieu of Dark Stars *shakes fist at GW*), so I want a standard list (Guard with allied Witchhunters) for that, but in friendly games I'll play around a bit.

The Promised List:
Well, I had a list for Dark Stars (1,000pt + 500pt reserve + 400pt combat patrol), but it's suddenly occurred to me that the list won't be much use for the Spiky weekend...
However, this means that I can pick your brains on what to include.
Here are my restrictions:
1) Confirmed doctrines:
Chem-inhalers (representing indoctrination to Cult Mechanicus/lobotomy – and also makes them play very differently to my other guard armies.)
Techpriest Enginseers (fairly obviously)
Heavy weapons platoons (sagitarii)
Special weapons squads (sagitarii)

Possible final doctrine:
Priests/Sharpshooters (let the battle commence!)

2) I want at least two platoons of hypaspists (i.e. fifty guardsmen)
1 x Tribune and Praefectii (CHQ), 2 x Centurion and Praefectii (PHQ), 4 x Hypaspist squads.

3) I want as much weird stuff as possible. I've played Guard for years now, and know how to make a reliable list. I'd prefer to get away from reliable and go with fun – and outrι!

4) Basically, this shouldn't feel like a guard force, so unusual organisations are welcome.

Other than that, feel free to get carried away. Bubbling under in the furnace-forges of Braun II are:
Three Sabre Platforms (heavy stubbers)
Mars Pattern Leman Russ Demolisher with Sentinel cabs and Predator sponsons.
An array of bits to expand the hypaspist/praefectii squads.
Loads of various guns for the sagitarii.
Had a fun idea to make a new battle tank with a reversed Chimera hull mated with the Defiler body as a turret – the holes on the sides filled with Ad Mech symbols from the Cities of Death Manufactorum, and the barrel of the battlecannon replaced with a sonic dissimulator...

Apologist
14-03-2007, 11:34
Some really nice work there chap! looking forward to sein them painted and hope to see them in the flesh, so to speak, one day.

Amen to that! I'll look forward to an ad mech vs traitor game someday. Now back to painting your awesome armies!

Bob Hunk
14-03-2007, 13:06
Awsome, awsome stuff Apologist. :D
I liked the fluff, and can't wait to see how the Praefectii turn out. :cool:
Keep up the good work.

Mutantdale
14-03-2007, 16:55
Awesome conversions. Keep up the good work I am looking forward to seeing more.
Only thing I think that may help is a 50/50 water, black ink wash over the drybrushed piping on some of them as the silver seems to have leaked into the recesses a bit and this should cover it nicely.

MD

Boss_Salvage
14-03-2007, 18:48
Had a fun idea to make a new battle tank with a reversed Chimera hull mated with the Defiler body as a turret – the holes on the sides filled with Ad Mech symbols from the Cities of Death Manufactorum, and the barrel of the battlecannon replaced with a sonic dissimulator...

Got Dakka? (http://www.dakkadakka.com/Gallery/tabid/61/AlbumID/410-28/Default.aspx)

No ace at Guard am I, but I like where you want your list to go. Solid base of men, add as much crazy ***** as possible.

- Salvage

dave is the best
22-03-2007, 17:05
Talking of the Collegia cybernetica, here's a Praetorian combat servitor. 'Praetorians are designed to intimidate, and if necessary, obliterate'.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Praetorianfrontright.jpg
Fit the bill? You'll notice a couple of little homunculi perched on the back and walking alongside him. These little blokes are some of my favourite bits of the adeptus mechanicus artwork, and I just couldn't resist dotting them around the army. Keep an eye out for them!

More updates to come – but don't want to flood!

How did you make the cart he is on?

And can you write a guide on making hoods?

dave

DigitsDavid
22-03-2007, 17:17
Just read through. I love the hypatists and they look awsome in large numbers. The bret robes work very well. This is an amazing army and if I wasn't so engrossed in my skellies at the moment, I would dearly love to have a go!

Ecceptional, I only wish there was a rating 6 for them!

Apologist
22-03-2007, 17:31
How did you make the cart he is on?

Fairly simple – it's two track sections from the ork wartrakk joined with sheets of 1mm plasticard. I built up a box of plasticard, glued it to the trakks (using the nipple points on the back of the trakks to fit), then detailed it with strips of plasticard. The track coverings are also strips of plasticard.


And can you write a guide on making hoods?
Here's how to make a sagitarius head. Just ignore the bits about cutting the heads up and use a bog standard head for hypaspists.

1) Make up some greenstuff (50-50 blue and yellow)
2) Place greenstuff on baking parchment and roll out as thinly as you can: <1mm, if poss!
3) Leave to cure for at least 20 min.
4) Trim the top off the bretonnian collared head, leaving a flat top to the collar.
5) Carefully cut into a scout sniper head just below the nose, and remove the lower part of the face.
6) Glue the scout head to the collar and allow to dry.
7) Glue the complete head to your figure.
8) Using a wet knife, cut a right-angled triangle from the green stuff, approx 5mm across the longest edge.
9) Wet your fingers and place the middle of the long edge on the forehead of the model.
10) Fold each side down.
11) Use a cocktail stick (or the point of your craft knife) to poke the points of the hanging sides into the neck of the model.
12) Fold the back of the hood (this should still be poking backwards) to the left, then the right to create a zig-zag crease, then gently press it down flat against the back of the head.

If you run out of scout sniper heads, the back of the magnoculars (i.e. the part you'd raised to your eyes) from the cadian sprue make great alternatives – and pretty unrecognisable once the hood's sculpted on.

Cheers to Dale for that useful tip on metal – this is my first time painting large amounts of metal, so hints are much appreciated!

Thanks again to all for positive encouragement.

Final note today: capture ships and submission teams have been sent to Thug in order to subdue a tribe of natives for cybernisation. ;)

dave is the best
22-03-2007, 17:52
Thank you for the guide. I am really considering doing a army like yours.
Can you list a load of bits that would be useful for me as i am going to buy it soon?

Dave

Strelok
24-03-2007, 07:38
Apologist, any way you could shoot a step-by-step for us?

Strelok
24-03-2007, 07:56
I need to sculpt a sort of familiar for my librarian to carry hist bolter, I believe I could use as many as your sculpting tips as I can get.

the_dark_sarge
24-03-2007, 08:29
wow some of this stuff is simply amazing
keep up the good work

Gropius
24-03-2007, 19:23
I really like your army, looks very cool. One little thing though. As your army seems to be using similar designations as roman legions I wouldn't call the 10 men squads maniple, because a maniple consisted of two centuries. The small (8-10 men) units were called decury, or later contubernia.

--sorry, after reading again i think probably just misunderstood your desciptions.

HiveTrygon
24-03-2007, 22:23
Man, now I want to make some of these to become traitors for my LotD army I'm working on. They are utterly fantabulous!!!! I can not wait to see more.

Apologist
27-09-2007, 20:47
...*hiss*...

Ah, seems the cryogenics are back in order!

What a long time since the last udate – but I hope you like the look of these fellas. I absolutely couldn't resist the new Forgeworld Renegade ogryns; so I thought I'd indoctrinate some with the liberal application of some neural wetware. Minor conversion work here; some greenstuff hoods added, chaotic details filed off or filled, and plasticard chainaxes added.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/OgrynPraetorians.jpg

The term 'Praetorian' is a catch-all term used to cover all of the Adeptus Mechanicus' elite fighting forces; be it undercover specialist black ops or supremely capable monotask servitors. Inducted ogryn tribes make common praetorians; their minds wiped and replaced with complex close quarters combat wetware and basic strat-tac engrams.

So altered, these hulking brutes are used for direct assaults where more subtle approaches would be detected and counteracted. While ill-suited for standard contemporary warfare, they are supremely capable for trench-clearing, urban warfare and are often used as a simple terror weapon to break the fighting spirit of pre-iron age worlds – few feudal societies are willing to fight on when their champions become two-dimensional.

Ogryn brains are notoriously simple; and standard mem-wipe brainpanning is often ineffective at removing societal mores; leaving trace elements of the individual's personality behind. These unfortunates have their brainpans completely emptied and are lobo-slaved – a standard combat servitor or praefectus volunteer being conjoined in a simple piggyback operation.

Braun regiments often include a number of altered ogryns (generally coded Sigma-Assault Praetorians), most being sourced from the nearby desert planet known only as 'Thug'.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/OgrynPraetoriansoverall.jpg

Hopefully these guys look a little more uniform than their chaotic counterparts, without looking too standardised. I've taken a coupla days off work to visit my mate Graham and work on these guys, so expect a few updates over the next coupla days; ably assisted by his awesome photog skills.

I've also put together another twenty or so hypaspists, but they're just more of the same (sort of), so I didn't bother getting any photos.

Comments more than welcome before I slap paint on these big lugs!

jasevx
27-09-2007, 21:06
arrrr, just when i stop my admech, this log returns to haunt me, amazing as usual apologist

Shinigami
27-09-2007, 21:06
looking good,

wil you be adding a titan in time?

Shinigami

GrahamGilchrist
27-09-2007, 21:15
Sweet and Awesome as always. Of course, I have the privilege of seeing them in the flesh :)

firestorm40k
28-09-2007, 07:38
Good to see this army is still going, it's full of fantastic work! :) The only problem of having so many fantastic, creative, unique Ad Mech armies (like this, the Hoff's and Hortwerth's), is that when FW finally release their Ad Mech stuff it will not live up to the standard and precendent set by these.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with next! :cool:

Apologist
28-09-2007, 09:33
Hey fleshbags,
Back for a quick text update. Modelling tools have been set aside and decorative wetware has been slipped into the hemi-drive on the right.

Up at the crack of dawn today to start a big push on getting these guys done, so I've cleared the decks, primed and am ready to start a big painting challenge: get 50 skitarii of various descriptions ready. I've got 12 hours to do it, and Graham'll be taking photographs at various stages.

This'll hopefully give everyone a step-by-step on the painting, but since this'll be running live, feel free to get in any questions on specifics and we'll try and get some details/close-ups.

Any and all commentary, critique, suggestions and (most of all) encouragement will be well appreciated!

Painting dactyls at the ready, close-scale occulobes in... go! :)

Apologist
28-09-2007, 11:46
10.30: Boltgun metal completed across the models. No point doing a whole army shot (not the most exciting stage!), but here's a few of the more interesting hypaspists. Note servo skulls and servoarms.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Boltgunstage1.jpg
Colours have been forced in photoshop: not enough contrast to see detail otherwise.

Kindly given a sallow skin tutorial by Hortwerth, I decided to use similar colours but give it a new spin. Starting with the base colour: (white with a touch of blood red):
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Skin1.jpg

...and a nice shot of them marching into battle, led by a Sigma-class Praetorian.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Advance.jpg

Apologist
28-09-2007, 12:43
12.10:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000413.jpg
Second stage: dheneb stone and scorched brown/black on the cowl; a mix of black and salamander green for the remaning cloth. Liche purple washed into skin, then rehighlighted and glazed with blue ink.
Eyes snot green.

jasevx
28-09-2007, 12:45
How bloody quick can you paint! looking really good

Lucifer216
28-09-2007, 13:03
Damn nice work. I especially love the Ogyrn with the searchlight for a face, reminds me of a big daddy from Bioshock. Are any of the Ogryns going to get a huge drill bit for an arm?

Apologist
28-09-2007, 13:26
Stage 3:
Most of the colours in place now, and having fun putting chequers on his axe and detailing. Just weathering after this!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000419.jpg

Bob Hunk
28-09-2007, 13:32
Damn nice work. I especially love the Ogyrn with the searchlight for a face, reminds me of a big daddy from Bioshock.

This is exactly what I was going to say. :) It's good to see the Ad Mech in progress again; the Ogryns look fantastic! :cool: Keep up the good work, will check back for updates later.

Hmmm...must resurrect my Ork log at some point.

vice
28-09-2007, 13:49
Wow, this is awesome!

Can we see a full group shot of everything, now that there are those awesome Ogryns?

Apologist
28-09-2007, 14:03
Two o'clock, and all's gory!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/OgrynFront.jpg
Graagh!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/OgrynRightSide.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/OgrynLeftSide.jpg

Kudos to Scrubout for his awesome blood spatter recipe. I replaced his varnish with PVA glue, which makes it stand a bit prouder, as if wee lumps of meat are flying around – very fitting if your chainaxe is the size of a space marine! Blood was applied liberally with a toothbrush.

Here's a detail shot of the servo skull, barcode and cowl chequering.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/BloodandBarcodes.jpg

ArtificerArmour
28-09-2007, 14:16
Utterly amazing! that's good work

OnnO
28-09-2007, 14:35
Very, very nice work.
The barcode is a nice touch.

How do you do your...uhm....gore?

Apologist
28-09-2007, 14:55
...But of course, no army is complete without troopers, so here are the poor bloody infantry – the hypaspists.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/Hypaspiststage1.jpg
The right-most fella is at stage 1 – Mechrite red painted on his robes.
The remainder have had scab red and blood red highlights, but this doesn't really show on the photo, unfortunately.

Thanks for all the encouragement and commentary you've been posting – really helps keep me motivated.

Shinigami: Will I add a titan? Well, I'd love to, but I'd probably have to sell the Lamb's Worlders to fund it!

Lucifer216: Drill bit may have to wait until the next unit ;), but the BONEhead does have a rather large, rather scary, spinny axe thing off the tail of a squiggoth (cheers Graham!)

Onno Check out Scrubout's awesome true scale marines project log for the gore recipe, with the changes I made noted a few posts above this one.

Bob Hunk
28-09-2007, 15:48
Infantry look good too. :)

Shinigami
28-09-2007, 16:26
looking good,

tough i personaly am not a big fan of bloodsplattering over miniatures, but thats just me

like those ogryns, they remind me of that bioshock thingy :D

Shinigami

Apologist
28-09-2007, 17:00
Phew; quick break for mid-day repast (Praise to the Omnissiah!) and we're back. Here're ten hypaspists basecoated, ready for flesh and detailing.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000458.jpg

Apologist
28-09-2007, 18:09
I think finishing fifty of 'em is out of reach, but here's the first two!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000462.jpg

Apologist
28-09-2007, 20:07
The light's failing now, and since my noc-occs aren't due for implantation until I gain promotion to Obsequious Underling Grade XII, this'll be the last update. Fell far short of my target, but I'm really pleased with how they're looking. If you've any questions, let me know. In the meantime, I'm going to take a well-earned break and perhaps replenish my lucrosol levels with some synthale.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000468.jpg
Note persecutrix servoskull and Magnatek Mark XXXIV bionic arm.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000469.jpg
Centrally, trooper Fel Numen has a gorget throat protector, usually associated with Sagitarii. Note also the servoarm on the unidentified trooper on the right. Non-standard equipment like this is often brought into the corps by the individual trooper.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000470.jpg

I'll leave you with an action shot of what I managed to paint today.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/P1000471.jpg

Hope you enjoyed the paint marathon, and thanks to Graham for documenting it and keeping me supplied with re-caff liquid rations.

Praise be to the Omnissiah!

bhusus
02-10-2007, 15:28
I just went through this entire thread to see all of your miniatures; dear sweet gawd man...if I could sculpt like that I don't think I'd ever leave my house...not that I really do anyway...but still, these miniatures are so damn inspiring...now I just need a worthwhile idea to make my own conversions a possibility...simply amazing!

TheBedla
02-10-2007, 19:58
Yup, great work, Apologist! However, I'd highlight the "studs" on the coats of several Skitarii - preferably with a metalic... I can't think of anything they could represent being painted the same colour as the cloth.
But still, great work, especially the Praetogrian :D!

grimkeeper
02-10-2007, 20:17
Really nice work

doghouse
02-10-2007, 20:34
Absolutely brilliant! I love not only the amazing details you've put into your army but the excellent background material as well.
Got to be one of the best and most visually coherent adeptus mechanicus forces I've seen to date! :)

El Presedente
02-10-2007, 20:46
I always knew the FW ogryns were good for something non chaos, and you managed to figure out what it was.

Good show.

Qdeu
03-10-2007, 19:23
Simply mindblowing!!!

zealot!
03-10-2007, 19:35
the counts-as conversions remind me of bioshock a little. good stuff man.

synapse
03-10-2007, 21:20
very cool stuff, and i love the gore on the ogryn! very cool!

dr.oetk3r
04-10-2007, 05:21
Wow, really cool stuff.

Tehkonrad
07-10-2007, 08:26
oh this logs over:wtf::(:cries:
oh well at least it inspired plenty of people Apologist i salute your never ending excellence

FOR THE OMMNISIAH:chrome:

because a god that knows everything is better than a god that doesn't know what to know cause he nuts and stuck to his chair

Apologist
08-10-2007, 11:14
oh this logs over
I can assure you it's not! :)
Plenty more painting to do yet, as well as a super-secret mini-project and a not-so-secret macro-project at the end.


FOR THE OMMNISIAH
because a god that knows everything is better than a god that doesn't know what to know cause he nuts and stuck to his chair
Best tagline for a religion ever. :D


Yup, great work, Apologist! However, I'd highlight the "studs" on the coats of several Skitarii - preferably with a metalic... I can't think of anything they could represent being painted the same colour as the cloth.
I think you're absolutely right. Looking at them again next to the earlier models, I'm going to go back and repaint the reds on the hypaspists, as they're a little too bright and cheerful. Adding the studs in boltgun metal will help to dull them down a little.


But still, great work, especially the Praetogrian
Thanks, and what a cool name!

Quick update:
I've moved house recently, so I'll be settling in for a wee while before I get my painting desk set up. Plans from here on in: complete the hypaspists (I predict a couple of weeks for these guys) and Praetogryans, then start modelling tanks. With five Chimeras in various states of disarray, I've decided that mechanising a section of the Braun II skitarii would be a fun idea. A mock-up will be forthcoming soon; and I'd appreciate any feedback you cats can offer.

Finally, a bitz plea. These are bits that I have pretty concrete plans for, so if anyone has any of them burning a hole in their bitzbox, then please let me know.

Linky:
http://warseer.com/forums/wanted-ads/106760-bitz-wanted-rw-da-wh-empire-various-post1985177.html#post1985177

Thanks again to all for your support – praise the Omnissiah!

TheBedla
08-10-2007, 14:36
Best tagline for a religion ever. :D

Thanks, and what a cool name!

No prob, I'm glad it stuck, as it seems :D

Great ideas for the bits, might try some local bitzhunting (I suppose I won't make any competition to you, as we're quite far away from eachother, i guess). And I might as well nick your red/yellow scheme for the Magos Militaris... a bit more to the gold, perhaps.

And I totally agree on the tagline :p


FOR THE OMMNISIAH:chrome:

because a god that knows everything is better than a god that doesn't know what to know cause he nuts and stuck to his chair

Mind if I sig it, Tehkonrad? (Ahhh... now that I write it, oyur nick finally makes sense... i think ;))

Apologist
10-10-2007, 10:55
Great ideas for the bits, might try some local bitzhunting (I suppose I won't make any competition to you, as we're quite far away from eachother, i guess).
No worries – can I recommend you put a post up in the trading forum? I managed to get almost everything I need almost immediately!


And I might as well nick your red/yellow scheme for the Magos Militaris... a bit more to the gold, perhaps.
Go right ahead – and while you're at it, why not check out the Mechanicus forum in my signature? It's pretty quiet, which is ideal for such a small cultish army – secrets of the Mechanicus. ;)

TheBedla
10-10-2007, 14:27
No worries – can I recommend you put a post up in the trading forum? I managed to get almost everything I need almost immediately!

Thanks, but I think I won't. Warseer isn't all that popular in our (Czech) gaming community, we've got our servers - not that I'm a nationalist, but the postage charges are pretty high - bearable for FW/GW shipments, but not so for bitz. I'll advertise just locally. But thanks for the tip :)


Go right ahead – and while you're at it, why not check out the Mechanicus forum in my signature? It's pretty quiet, which is ideal for such a small cultish army – secrets of the Mechanicus. ;)
Checking it out, it seems not to like either me or my browser (opera), but I hope it'll do. Thanks for the second tip :D

Trilbydude@Dragon
20-10-2007, 14:35
Sir, you have given me some wonderful Ideas. I would like to steal them, your necromunda conversion first and formost. BTW, what bodies did you use for your troops?

Apologist
22-10-2007, 09:27
By and large, I'm always dead pleased if I've managed to inspire anyone, so do feel free to poach as much as you want; after all, if you have an idea and I have an idea, we can give them to each other and both have two ideas!

The troops are bretonnian Men-at-arm one-piece body and legs.

Trilbydude@Dragon
22-10-2007, 15:13
:D cheers. I'm doing a rogue Mechanicus/Ratmen Army, so this'll be usefull. Thanks once again, and keep at it!

Cogs for the machine god!

fleshcross
22-10-2007, 22:33
Damn, looking good!

El Presedente
22-10-2007, 22:50
Any chance we'll be seeing any superheavys for Apocalypse

knee high to a gnoblar
24-10-2007, 20:12
good army! i especially like the more ragedy look of the magi ( a scavvy boss it think...) keep it up!

Apologist
24-10-2007, 22:50
Any chance we'll be seeing any superheavys for Apocalypse

All in time, Fleshlings, all in time...

Apologist
05-11-2007, 11:45
Bit of an update – thought no pics this time, I'm afraid.
Spent some time over the weekend assembling the lovely FW Death Korp commissar servitors for use in the army, attaching servo skulls all over the hypaspists, and starting to paint the platoon in earnest.

Somehow, I've managed to make forty-five of them, which has confused me no end! I could have sworn I only ordered enough parts for thirty, so I'm very pleased. Ten are still awaiting arm grafts, but I'm holding off for some spiffy custom-cast bionics I've ordered.

I also managed to start work on my secret project, an aspirant Techmarine squad. These guys will use the Deathwatch rules (assuming I can find them somewhere), and are nice and big and burly. Pleasingly, the rest of the army is the right size for humans, so they come up to the middle of these guys' chests.

Progress rather stalled on the vehicles at the mo – had a bit of a rethink, and am going to get all of the infantry out of the way and then come back to tanks. The original idea was to recreate the great creepy weirdness of the ad mech, and I think that infantry look better than tanks for showing that.

darknation
05-11-2007, 11:55
Oo, I really like these. They remind me of Quake 2, especially that dude on tank tracks.

Nice use of bretonian parts as well. I might have to steal what idea for some chaos cultists at some point...

Tarsus
05-11-2007, 13:11
Loving the "Big Daddy" style ogryn.

The whole army is awesome, cant wait to see some of the vehicles you have planned.

bram kuijpers
05-11-2007, 13:21
graet painting just one slight piece of comment though : the infantry looks a bit clumsy with those lasguns.

Temprus
07-11-2007, 05:36
These guys will use the Deathwatch rules (assuming I can find them somewhere)

Try here:
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/spacemarines/gaming/deathwatch/default.htm

TheBedla
07-11-2007, 11:02
I've been thinking about the AdMech vehicles myself, and it's a tough one. I'll go with the overly ornate style, showing the reverence the Steel Behemoths get. Plus some techy details, like substituting driver's sights with sensor arrays, and perhaps adding a "aliens-style" sentrygunish pintle weapons in the top hatch. Plus, I'm blocking all access points to the vehicle, as the crew never gets out. I considered substituting chimera's firepoints with lasgun-armed wired-in servoskulls, I think that might come out well. But now, I'm focusing on infantry as well, so no progress made (except maybe a ruined Chimera :o/ )

Inquis. Jaeger
10-11-2007, 01:01
Apologist, loving the Ad Mech stuff - some really characterful conversions and some lovely original ideas (I'll be scrounging a couple for my Tech-based Marine DIY force!)

Also very glad to see that the FW Chaos Ogryns got turned into something damned awesome - rest assured that your catachans will make an appearance at some point when I can get my bloody **** in gear. Just about acquired everything for the Praetorian/Zulu project, so that should be started up next week hopefully.

Once again, some fantastic work. Well done!

Apologist
20-11-2007, 20:37
You shall have what you desire...

Hey Fleshbags;
My shamebanks were critical after getting to a point where there was a full page without piccies; so a bit of a bonanza here.

I bought a ticket to the Tempus Fugitives' Dark Stars campaign this year, and they're allowing Adeptus Mechanicus armies – hooray!

This has required a bit of re-jigging, but since my army was pretty much all infantry, this hasn't presented a problem beyond finding a new place for all off the Inquisitorial Henchmen. In the main, these have become tech-servitors...

The homonculi, meanwhile, have finally got something to do. They will now be counting as wound markers. Here's a couple being painted as you read this:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0906.jpg

I looked long and hard at the army as it stood – there's few things worse than deciding you don't like something after you've painted the whole army! First to change was the colour scheme – the most recent hypaspists were altogether too bright and 'Christmassy'; not at all the moody and dark look I was going for. I therefore bit the bullet and have started repainting the army in a darker scheme, based upon Scab Red. I've also restricted my palette further, kicking yellow out:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0900.jpg
The Magos Militaris has his trim repainted in cream (rather than yellow), and his face looked at a little closer. His lenses have been replaced with UV purple ones, and his respirator has been brightened a touch to bring attention to this focal point. It's also a much better pic than before – borrowed a better camera!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0902.jpg
Similarly, the Arch-Magos has been muted, and I've added some interest to his face-covering with some chequers. I've muted the metallics across the army with a black wash (as some kind poster pointed out before – thanks!)

Finally, here's an example of a painting in progress hypaspist:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0898.jpg
The colours are a little off (it's under a 60 watt bulb), but you can probably see the purple-based flesh – being a techpriest probably doesn't equate to being out in the sunshine a lot!

Apologist
20-11-2007, 20:52
To continue, thanks to everyone for their kind words, support and critique.

In particular, thanks to Temprus for the Deathwatch rules. As a special thanks to him, here's the first WIP Aspirant Techmarine:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0896.jpg
The Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes compose the most powerful individual soldiers in the Imperium of Man. These puissant and terrible warbands are as fiercely independent as the Adeptus Mechanicus itself. Each Chapter submits warriors who show an especial prediliction for machine-craft to a nearby Forgeworld, where they are inducted into the outermost circles of the Cult Mechanicus.

Here they train alongside enginseers, members of the collegia cybernetica and the weaponsmiths of the Mechanicum for thirty years before returning to their parent chapters as Techmarines, mysterious warriors that stand apart from their Astartes Brethren, blessed with select knowledge of the Machine God (praisebehisname!).

Space Marines are living weapons of war, and their precious martial skills are not allowed to idle during these three long decades. After initial wetware implants and Mesmer-rep-learning, Aspirant Techmarines are often seconded to Explorator Covens, where they fight fiercely and learn the practical matters of battlefield repair from experienced Magi and the Senior Enginseers – skills of initiative and fieldcraft difficult, if not impossible, to learn anywhere else.

In this way, the Aspirants come to understand some of the mysteries of the Machine Spirits of their battlegear. In this way, the Aspirants are bonded with the Cult Mechanicus. In this way, they become the mighty Techmarines of the Adeptus Astartes.

...And a size comparison:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0897.jpg

As you can see, my hypaspists come up to about chest height on this monster – he's about seven and a half foot tall in his armour!

These'll form a squad of ten, used as a Deathwatch kill-team. They've been true-scaled following a quicker an simpler (and let's be fair, less impressive!) adaptation of Synapse's method – full kudos goes to him.

OnnO
20-11-2007, 20:53
Hooray; update!

Love the scavvy boss.
I think the losing of yellow is a good choice.

Apologist
20-11-2007, 21:08
...and because this isn't a thread on True-scale Space Marines, but on the glories of the Machine God, here are some more piccies of my WIP hypaspist century:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0899.jpg
Optio Vans Lumarr has the typical sallow complexion of a sub-hive family – he has done well to rise so high through the ranks of the menials to perform highly efficiently in the armies of Braun.

Such is the way of the Machine God: Lumarr has been well-rewarded for his performance with a Radiohead-class ultraviolet-sensitive bionic eye.

Learn well: serve the Grand Machine well, and pursue knowledge above all else!

I've added some variety with black cowls:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0903.jpg

...and added the studs, as requested by a kind poster whose name has slipped my mem-banks (they did look a bit poo when they were the same colour as the cloth, so thank you for making me pull my pict-dactyl out of my wastecycler!).
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0905.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0901.jpg
This hypaspist is obviously a sentry-specialist, as shown by the multiple banks of oculars. Such specialists are included across Centuries almost randomly; such is the variety and number of implants that even direct officers can not always be sure of the disposition of the men and women under their command. In battle, each hypaspist is expected to act with initiative and to utilise their special talents as usefully and intelligently as possible.

Apologist
20-11-2007, 21:43
In a word, si; they're based on men-at-arms bodies. I can't claim the idea – that comes from Mr. Direct-Line-To-The-Omnissiah: Hortwerth.

This pic shows them quite nicely: Note the additional bionics culled from Marines, and the servo skulls.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0894.jpg

Question time:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0895.jpg

These are Techpriests and Enginseers – since I've swapped to a violet palette, do I re-work the blue power axes in violet?

El Presedente
20-11-2007, 21:43
by the way Apologist, just to let you know I'll be shamelessly ripping off your Magos Militaris this weekend, possibly as soon as friday (I've ordered the skavvie boss and relevant AdMech pariphinalia), If you want to see my take on it then drop by my project log soon and send an abuseive message as you see fit.

Probably won't be as good as you're though.

Apologist
20-11-2007, 23:28
Hurrah – a Hypaspist Maniple completed, bar the bases and (possible) final details:

Hypaspsist Maniple Sigma; led by Optio, and with Cataphract-class Missile Launcher and M37 combi-melta:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0912.jpg

Alternate views:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0914.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0913.jpg

Apologist
20-11-2007, 23:34
by the way Apologist, just to let you know I'll be shamelessly ripping off your Magos Militaris this weekend, possibly as soon as friday
Hoorah – looking forward to see where you go with him. Tempted to try a dark grey scheme with him?


Probably won't be as good as you're though.
Quiet you – if my head gets any bigger, I'll have to invest in a bionic neck-brace; and become a walking target for crows.

...and hypaspist maniple phi is completed; too.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0907.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0911.jpg

...and as a final treat, the first Ad Mech model I ever bought, about fourteen years ago:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0915.jpg

What the heck do I do with him?

pablofiasco
21-11-2007, 17:47
well thats quite obvisouly artificer armour of the highest possible quality,
just look at the flowing lines and rounded shapes,
this must be someone of great importantance top be wearing so a honored and venerable armour

Bob Hunk
21-11-2007, 18:52
Always a treat to see updates on this army! :cool: The dulled-down red looks good, as does the true-scale Tech Marine.
Looking forward to seeing progress on the cyber-Ogryns.



this must be someone of great importantance top be wearing so a honored and venerable armour

I concur, this guy should have an important role! ;)

Apologist
21-11-2007, 20:34
The dulled-down red looks good, as does the true-scale Tech Marine. Looking forward to seeing progress on the cyber-Ogryns.


Well, here's number two – the Bioshock cat.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0916.jpg

Here's his barcode – not as clean as the previous one, so I'll have to go back and clean it up:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0917.jpg

...and a final shot of his 'pilot'.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0919.jpg

Light of the Emperor
21-11-2007, 21:06
I love the gritty look of the force. You captured the AdMech well...its very Blanche-ian...

The headlight for the ogryns mask is a really good idea. Kudos!

Apologist
22-11-2007, 00:17
Thanks very much – I'm a big fan of Blanche's work; and I've been trying out a looser, sketchier style on these guys. Suffice to say it's been more successful in some areas than others!

Work continues apace. Here's a Brother Marine of the Iron Hands:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0920.jpg

A detail of his chapter iconography. Note bionic left hand and aspirant avowal (scroll).
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0922.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0921.jpg
On becoming an aspirant, the Marine repaints his *cough* right arm (thanks, Talon!) with the Cult Mechanicus colouring, symbolising his connection to the Machine God and submission to the Omnissiah.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0925.jpg
Aspirants are often accompanied by a Cherub-servitor to monitor and record his achievements.

Apologist
22-11-2007, 00:21
...and the question on everyone's lips: 'Has he gone and made his ogryns look silly by making the marine too big?'

You be the judge – I hope they look good next to each other. I've included a regular ol' hypaspist in there as well: I was pleased with the chequer effect over his cowl and hood, and he should help give a sense of scale to the others.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0927.jpg

Next up? More ogryns, probably.

...or actually, I've just spotted some servitors that would be fun, so might pop those up instead.

Heru Talon
22-11-2007, 01:38
On becoming an aspirant, the Marine repaints his left arm with the Cult Mechanicus colouring, symbolising his connection to the Machine God and submission to the Omnissiah.
Technically that is "his" right arm.

Heru Talon
22-11-2007, 02:01
I am currently working on a Homegrown version of Codex Inquisiton at the moment, and one of the unit entries is a Tech-Priest (plus retinue), so I was wondering if I could get a full listing of what you use as what in the Arch Magos Retinue.

I know you use Lectors as Acolytes, but what else?


And a second question where is it your getting all this fluff on the Ad Mech from, is it in a book I should go buy?

Bob Hunk
22-11-2007, 09:36
Well, here's number two – the Bioshock cat.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0916.jpg

Ahhh, that's the good stuff. :p Nice job on the visor. :cool:

Apologist
22-11-2007, 12:18
I am currently working on a Homegrown version of Codex Inquisiton at the moment, and one of the unit entries is a Tech-Priest (plus retinue), so I was wondering if I could get a full listing of what you use as what in the Arch Magos Retinue.

No worries. It's mainly a case of swapping out names. I use the Witchhunter codex, but you could easily swap in Daemonhunters:

Inquisitor Lord = Arch Magos (+ Collegia – e.g. Magos Militaris, Cybernetica etc)
Inquisitor = Magos (+ Collegia – e.g. Magos Militaris, Cybernetica etc)
Acolyte = Lector (in the case of the Collegia Militaris) or Adept (+ Collegia)
Sage = Autolocutor (Adept Physic)/Autosavant (Adept Biologis) etc.
Warrior = Combat servitor/Magos Minoris (Collegia). To my mind, not really fitting for the other Colleges.
Penitent = I don't use these, as I try to steer clear of psychics for my Ad Mech – it helps keep them distinct from Witchhunters and Inquisitors. However, you could easily include it as a Magos Minoris of the College with a piece of technoarcana: perhaps a Psychoinhibitor, or a Transmaterial Waveform Blocker?
Chirurgeon = Adept biologis, Haemoncolyte etc
Familiar = Servo skull, Cherub servitor or Menial.

As you can see, I go into quite a bit of detail with the colleges and so forth, but this isn't really necessary (and I keep changing my mind anyway!). My advice would be to make a 'Techpriest Explorator' entry – these are Techpriests that go on holy missions for the Omnissiah to gather new knowledge. This would mean that you could keep the basic terms:
Archmagos, Magos, Magos Minoris, Adept, Menial, and just equip them with whatever you need.


And a second question where is it your getting all this fluff on the Ad Mech from, is it in a book I should go buy?
To be honest, I mainly make it up on the spot. There's plenty of fluff on the Ad Mech about (Adeptus Titanicus, Space Marine, 40k 2nd ed, etc), and I've picked it up over the years. Lots of it is apparently contradictory, so I reconcile it where possible, or gloss over it where it's not.

There's a poster called Mechanicus who is always extremely helpful – his databanks are packed full with everything there is to know about the Ad Mech, and he's a great fella, too. Look him up; or you could go to the Ad Mech forum in my sig, where we discuss the background.

Bob_Hunk: Cheers for the kind words. I've tidied (and dirtied) him up a little now, and I'm very pleased with how he's looking. Trιs pleased with the lens effect, too!

Lucifer216
22-11-2007, 13:17
I demand a scary looking little girl with a big syringe (Little Sister) to accompany the Big Daddy Ogyrn. Kudos on the paint job!

Apologist
22-11-2007, 17:30
I demand a scary looking little girl with a big syringe (Little Sister) to accompany the Big Daddy Ogryn.

Heh, that's quite a fun idea. The first person to find me a suitably Steampunk little girl miniature gets a model named after them. :)

The forge grinds on:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0934.jpg
This Sigma-class combat servitor (commonly dubbed Praetogryn by the tech-guard, in reference to their single-minded devotion to mindless slaughter) is accompanied by a relay-construct, similar to a servo skull, but much larger. It is possible that this is providing a continual stream of coded trinary information to a nearby adept overseer; or it may simply be a decorated ogryn-sized servo skull. Ogryns are surprisingly and touchingly keen that they may provide help to the Emperor after their deaths; and their skulls are typically both extremely large and resilient, making them ideal for carrying especially delicate or bulky equipment.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0932.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0933.jpg

Apologist
22-11-2007, 18:00
Not little girls, but runty little beings have been finished – the homonculi:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0929.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0930.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0931.jpg

Homonculi is a catch-all term for the camp-followers that scamper around the main army, carrying small and inconsequential pieces of equipment for the adepts in battle. Either vat-grown, or drafted from the forgeworld's menial population, homonculi are pitiful and stunted creatures, worthy of little more part in the Grand Machine than catching bullets and acting as additional limbs for more vital parts of the army.

Their lives are miserable, brutish and short – much like the homonculi themselves!

These little fellas are going to count as wound markers, 'cause I like 'em so much.

bhusus
22-11-2007, 18:41
Dear sweet gawd man...your work is the reason I started this hobby in the first place...unfortunately most of my armies are put together already...but this is some solid inspiration to start a new army...

Apologist
22-11-2007, 20:26
Rather running out of steam at the moment, so I think I'll kick back for a bit and work on some banners.

In the meantime, here're some pictures of the army as a whole. As you can see, there's quite a bit more work needed to make this up to 2,500!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0941.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0940.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0939.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0938.jpg

Hope you like how it's looking so far; I'm very pleased with how this project's turning out. The risk has started to pay off!

Heru Talon
22-11-2007, 22:03
Is it me or are the two Lectors missing from the group photo?

Vasteye
22-11-2007, 22:56
only thing i can think of at the moment is
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h88/Vasteye/girl.jpg

bioshock ftw :D

I'm loving the look of the army, very distinctive. Don't lose steam now! We need ... erm ... tank tracked servitors with lascannons to count as heavy weapons teams! Or a leman russ crewed by cyborgs! Or a sentinel being controlled remotely with an xbox 360 controller :chrome:

TheBedla
23-11-2007, 13:12
This one looks perfect,with the dress...
but I think I've seen another one, somewhere else... will keep looking.
http://www.reapermini.com/FigureFinder#detail/03233

Temprus
23-11-2007, 15:22
Here are some candidates:

http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=113
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=140

Captain Brown
23-11-2007, 17:56
Apologist,

Love the army, nice work and great dedication keeping at it.

5/5

Captain Brown

Apologist
24-11-2007, 01:07
Is it me or are the two Lectors missing from the group photo?

Yep – because of the way I'm having to rearrange my army for Dark Stars, the Lectors are going to be relegated to special weapons troopers in amongst the rest of the infantry.

I think I've found a spiffy model for the little sister (even though I have no idea what Bioshock is; I'll have to check with Lucifer216); but rest assured everyone who's come up with suggestions will be immortalised somewhere amongst the army. Cheers for the ideas!

Trilbydude@Dragon
24-11-2007, 09:33
O.O wow. I haven't checked this thread in a while, and it's looking pretty epic. Consider me well n' truly subscribed.

Vasteye
25-11-2007, 12:48
If i may reference wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioshock

One of the finest FPS on the Xbox 360. Very art deco, NY in the 1920's style. One of the main foes you encounter are 'big daddies', huge guys in diving suits that protect 'little sisters', creepy little girls who harvest the DNA of the fallen.

The ogryns do resemble big daddies, ya see.

El Presedente
25-11-2007, 13:00
One of the finest FPS on the Xbox 360.

Eh hem, and PC thank you very much.

Vasteye
25-11-2007, 13:04
Eh hem, and PC thank you very much.

i do apologise :D

Shinnentai
25-11-2007, 15:06
Wow, lots of magnificent work since I last checked in on this thread - expect those Ogryns to take a lot of fire in games - they look scary! So do you have plans for tanks/Knights to go alongside all of these excellent infantry? Also, what are your plans for the bases? Sorry if this has already answered but I find it difficult to pry my eyes from the pretty pictures :D

I notice that you're using the bodies of Brettonian Men-at-arms for the Skitarii - I don't suppose you have any spare heads and would be willing to swap them for more bodies? I need em for my Guard :)

Apologist
25-11-2007, 18:29
Thanks! That Bioshock game looks cool as toast. If I didn't have this damned addiction to Plastic Crack, I might be able to afford a computer that could play it... :)

After a week of painting infantry, I'm pretty burnt out with 'em; so the forges are cranking up for part one of the vehicles. I've got some ambitious plans for these, as I want them to be as eye-catching as the troops. Keep your eyes peeled for troops transports and heavy tanks.

Shinnentai, there's a PM sitting in your computer regarding bits. In answer to the bases question, these brave troopers are going to be marching over urban terrain. I've got some resin bases on order from Foundations Of War after hearing good things from my gaming group.

Because these guys are pretty fragile, I want to keep them as stable as possible. To that end, I'm mounting them all on ridged 30mm bases; like AT-43 models.

Boss_Salvage
26-11-2007, 02:03
DAMN the group shot is impressive for these (cybernetic) lads, you continue to impress Apologist. Now for me to disappear from 'Seer for another month or so and then find more awesome waiting ;)

Keep up the good work.

- Salvage

El Presedente
01-12-2007, 20:58
Just began work on my (shameless rippoff ) own take on you're Magos Militaris so if you like you can have a look at it in my log (link in sig)

In the mean time, keep up the good work.

Apologist
03-12-2007, 12:29
Hey fleshbags,

El Pres – digging the conversion: the chaos bolter looks fantastic on the scavvy boss!

Quick texty update. Some new stuff has been flying in from all sides (lovely Christmas bonus this year – hooray for being a humble scribe!); including:

1) Foundations of War resin bases. I've decided to bite the bullet and go for urban bases, since I think this'll set off the deep red nicely, and provide me with plenty of opportunity for details like streetlamps, litter and stray cyber-moggies.

2) The Ad Mech Skulz set. Despaired of ever getting one of these for a decent price, but found a set with mangled base tabs. Since I'll be trimming them off anyway, it makes no difference to me. Not sure what the original owner was doing with them, as they haven't been cleaned or anything: just had their tabs hobbled – very strange!

3) Parts for preatorians. As I've mentioned before, praetorians cause Ad Mech fluff junkies to get their waste-vent synthcloth in a twist, because mentions of them are so vague and contradictary. I've chosen to reconcile all the different version by simply saying that there are loads of different types. These guys will be elite 'black ops' style high-tech guardsmen, based on space marine scouts. Looking forward to putting these together with their pimped chimera.

4) Parts for the mysterious Macro-russ... ;)

Keep an eye out for updates over the weekend, as it's the PCRC's monthly geekend, when I do most of my work, and I have some proper lighting and photographer mates!

Also, if there are any requests for pictures of anything, list 'em up and I'll see what we can do with a proper photographer having a go.

Holycrusader
03-12-2007, 14:36
Those hooded Forgeworld ogryns looks great. What kind of vehicles you plan to add to this army?

Apologist
03-12-2007, 15:29
Thanks. I'm going to have to see if I can source any creepy dead babies like your awesome force. :)

It's a simple equation:
Baby servitors > everything else.

Tanks!
This weekend will see the construction of the first Braun-pattern Macro-Russ, an ancient STC unique to Braun. There will be two of these (hopefully!).

In addition, there will be two Braun pattern Chimeras for the Praetorian Praefectii.

Beyond that, maybe (maybe) robots.

I'm being fairly ambitious with these, as I reckon it'd be a shame to put so much effort into the infantry, and then use bog-standard tanks.

I <3 W
03-12-2007, 16:40
you need the servitors in pics 6/7 here:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/dkkquart.htm

Apologist
03-12-2007, 16:52
I have the servitors in pics 6/7 there.

;)

...and they are spiffy-cool; can't recommend them enough. The one with lots of wavy arms is so ridiculously fragile, I almost can't bear to touch him.

Apologist
07-12-2007, 10:08
Hey all,
Small piccy update. Painted this guy in an hour for a competition, and thought I'd throw him up. Incidentally, turns out that I'd imagined the 'one hour' time limit. Needless to say, I didn't win the contest – D'oh!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0942.jpg
Mmm... undercoated.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0944.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0950.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0951.jpg

Pleased with how the skin came out. Went for a wet-into-wet Blanchesque effect: how successfully do you reckon it worked?

bram kuijpers
07-12-2007, 10:48
the red hood needs a bit of attention, i suppose some metal parts at the pants need some rust (use flesh wash)

and i demand a tutorial for those eyes!
looks awsome though!

Roel?
07-12-2007, 14:25
I agree with Bram, those eyes look stunning!

Shinnentai
07-12-2007, 19:01
Yah, those eyes are crazy! Look more like yellow LEDs than paint XD
As if your Ogryn unit didn't look imposing as it was!!

I <3 W
07-12-2007, 19:06
How do you do the glowing eyes? I reallly want to try that!

Dio΄Ra
07-12-2007, 19:09
the first thing you notice about the painted model are the eyes...those glowing eyes....staring at you.....you just cant lose eye contact with those eyes....

I <3 W
07-12-2007, 20:45
yeah can you OH PLEASE make a glowing eye guide

Vasteye
09-12-2007, 10:54
agreed, the eyes rule

Mr Feral
09-12-2007, 12:55
I though they were really lit up when I first saw them. You had me fooled. I agree with earlier posts, do a tutorial on it please?

Apologist
10-12-2007, 13:02
Hey Fleshlings.

Blimey, the BONEhead got a bit of attention. I entered him into a painting contest on another forum – here's the discussion post I made for him, which should explain most of what people want:


Thanks to grey_death who organised the 'God Bless the Infantry' painting contest, and well done to Wayfarer, the well-deserved winner.
My entry was the adeptus mechanicus ogryn; and to be honest it was a bit of a snap decision to enter – I'd been painting my army for a while earlier that evening, and thought that since I was painting infantry, I'd enter one.

Unfortunately, I'd finished all of the basic hypaspists I was working on, and the only thing I had to hand was an Ogryn. Not really a bog-standard infantryman, but certainly smelly enough to go with the 'God Bless the Infantry' title!

I'll be the first to admit that it's not all that cleanly painted: encouraged by a couple of pints of synthale*, I decided to try out some new techniques – wet-on-wet skin blending to get a John Blanche-style effect to the skin; and source lighting for the eyes and beneath the hood.

Lesson one: don't drink and paint, fleshlings.

I took a quick shot of the undercoated model, then got stuck in. Ten minutes later, I'd got the base colours in. Half an hour later, the skin was pretty much complete; and fifteen minutes later I'd completed the hood and most of the detailing. At this point, I was really panicking: I'd never get it done in an hour! Two minutes of dithering later, I decided to give the skin a quick glaze, and got the finished shot...

Lesson two: read the rules.

Of course, the contest didn't have a time limit after all. D'oh! :D
I'll go back sometime and clean up the worst bits – the metal, the belt decorations and the trousers; all of which only got the most perfunctory treatment.

A couple of people wanted some better shots – I'll be the first to say that my photo-fu is really poor, but hopefully these are a little better.

First off, a couple of pictures of the front of the Praetogryn BONEhead:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0992.jpg
The eyes get a lot of attention, but light sourcing turns out to be pretty easy – paint the eyes and surrounds white, then add dilute yellow into the eyes. Next, mix the dilute yellow into whatever colours surround the area, and finish the job – nice and quick!
This shot also shows the black-and-white Cult Mechanicus skull mask I painted on to the cowl itself. This was quite fun to do, and I think it adds to the Adeptus Mechanicus feel of the conversion.

Speaking of the conversion, it's a fairly stock Renegade Militaia Ogryn from Forgeworld, with a sculpted hood, trimmed-down punch knife (left hand) and the original pneumatic drill replaced with the tail weapon of a squiggoth. I wanted the model to look brutal, but also as though it had been designed to be used militarily, rather than the more rag-tag original renegades.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0991.jpg
Note the veins on the right pectoral – I wanted the thing's skin to have a translucent quality; and figured that ogryn blood would be thick, highly oxygenated and sluggish as it pushes its way through inch-wide weins.

Then a rear picture of the beast!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0993.jpg
This shows the wet-on-wet skin technique quite nicely – and hopefully demonstrates why it gobbled up most of my time! I was pretty pleased with the skin; and hope that it conveys that 'Blanche' feel. Also, check out the highly-polished leather on the boots – I was happy with that effect.

Apologist
10-12-2007, 13:03
Continued:
[quote]And a couple of detail shots.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0994.jpg
Not a great shot, but you can see the hood decoration pretty well here, and I hope the red looks quite nice – it's quite a challenging colour! You can see the veins pretty well here; and you can also see the light leaking from the other holes in the hood – I wanted these to be subtle, so that it didn't detract from the effect of the eyes themselves.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0995.jpg
Ah. much better! You can see the veins, the bruised flesh around the implants, the skull cowl, the light sourcing; and also the decoration on both the outside and inside of the hood (where it's blown inside-out on the right of the picture). I decided round spirals on the inside would be a nice contrast to the square ones on the outside rim.

I painted the remainder of the maniple the following day (some had already been done):
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP0996.jpg
They're just waiting for resin bases.

Thanks for the votes, and hope you've found this explanation interesting.

*A vital support when you're painting forty-five identical ad mech guardsmen in a day.

Apologist
10-12-2007, 13:33
...but the Ogryns have been seen before – and you cats deserve something a bit more interesting: so here's my (probably over-ambitious) vehicle project, the Sigilite Main Battle Tank.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP1006.jpg
Magos-Explorator Gerrena Strange discovered the STC plans for a mysterious Main Battle Tank deep in one of the mysterious crytal-biblios of the continent of Hendris, a devastated and atomically polluted wasteland of almost impenetrable ravines and tangled archowreckage.
After nearly sixteen thousand years, this powerful and imposing steel beast was once more able to be produced on the planet of its birth.

No records survive of why the tank had originally been produced; but some lecturers propose that the vehicle had been developed prior to Hendris' destruction, to combat the depredations of the ork Waaagh! Zodwort, and their eldritch allies, the Oort Conglomerate; an effort that presumably ultimately proved futile against these foes of mythical proportions.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP1007.jpg
After five hundred years of study, examination, field-testing and punishing reconsecration; the tank was named the 'Sigilite'; in honour of the Emperor's right-hand advisor, also of mysterious origin.

During its long return to the light, the tank has been found to have a greater resilience and top speed than the Triplex Phall pattern Leman Russ; owing to the unusually complex mem-layered carbon armour and depleted Pelenium multi-layer integrated fuel drive. The vehicle has considerably greater ease of use owing to the intuitive machine-spirit assisted targeting reticles.

Vexingly, much of the near-complete STC was lost in a raid by rad-bandits during Magos Strange's three decade return home. While the hull and system crystal plates were intact, the turret and sponson plates were damaged beyond repair. For this reason, the Sigilite uses a variety of replacement turrets and sposons; where possible retro-fitted from the Baneblade STC. This is especially galling to the Grand Host of Braun, as the targetting systems seem capable of guiding unknown multi-pattern munitions: theoretically allowing the tank to target and engage multiple foes at ranges and with accuracy seemingly impossible for extant ordnance.

The Sigilite is considerably more complex than the Leman Russ; requiring nearly three times the time and nearly five times as much materiel for each squadron. For this reason, the Sigilite will never be mobilised sector-wide; and Braun will remain the sole production facility for this Main Battle Tank. The STC has been submitted to the Martian High Altar for approval, integration and the Machine-Spirit's Ascension to the Omnissiah's host.

The Cornelius Triumphant Spire Factory-Complex on Braun VI has been completely turned over to the development and production of the Sigilite; and the first battle-ready examples are even now being developed for use in the Damocles Gulf crusade, in support of the Braun skitarii and the Legio Victorum.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/IMGP1008.jpg

Hope you like the WIP. It's based on Land Raider tracks, a Mars Alpha pattern hull and Baneblade turret. Needless to say, it's VERY big.

There will be two forthcoming – this is the Demolisher variant.

El Presedente
10-12-2007, 13:39
lets see, thats a FW russ hull, baneblade turret and land raider sides right?

precinctomega
10-12-2007, 13:39
Madness! Madness, I tells yeh!

R.

IAMNOTHERE
10-12-2007, 14:13
Really like the way the backwards facing trcks fit with the russ look.

Apologist
10-12-2007, 21:24
Really like the way the backwards facing trcks fit with the russ look.

Cheers iamnothere; it's actually this exact point that got me thinking – the angles are identical: simply reversed and the dimensions enlarged. Obviously GW design are quite careful to keep the STC look consistent.

I've since done a little more work on it – track guards and the first sponson. I've also decided to shorten the barrel a little; disguise its origin and make it a bit more obvious that it's a Demolisher cannon.

IAMNOTHERE
10-12-2007, 22:24
So obviously you intend to run it as a demolisher in normal games, are you going all Ryza (plasma cannon) on it or sticking with anti troop heavy bolters?

Have you thought what you'd proxy it as in larger games? Malcador?

On a side note after seeing how well the ogryns have come out I'm going to try some of my own. So it's either a doctrine (and drop the ratlings) or double them as Luminem. commissar.

Apologist
14-12-2007, 10:35
It'd be a shame to drop the ratlings – more diversity in the Legio Victorum can only be a good thing. :)

I'm going to run the Sigilite as a Leman Russ with track guards and implanted crew (counts as extra armour): it's embiggened (;)), but not to super-heavy standards.

I've since added the first sponson: a mash-up of a Baneblade sponson with a predator heavy bolter. I like massed fire more than super-guns, so I'll leave the plasma cannons for another time. Maybe on the next one!

In other news, inspired by Precinct Omega's awesome Dark Magenta fanzine, I've dug my =][= Inquisitor models out of storage. Since they're mechanicus, I was tempted to throw them up here. Any interest?

Fleafa
08-01-2008, 13:18
I know this is a bit late, but I suggest trying something I did a while back. Replace the head of the marine's cherub with a servo-skull from the new Devestator sprue, if you can find one. It fits perfectly and looks great!

Anyway, a very cool army. Hope to see it in February. ^_^

GrahamGilchrist
08-01-2008, 15:50
Ah, I see you decided to go with the leman russ hull for your tank rather than the reversed land raider hull you were thinking of before. What prompted that choice?
I guess the land raider hull might have looked a bit 'obvious' without extensive conversion, but it did look cool when you dry-fitted it to test. However this one also looks equally sweet so its ok :D

Brilliant as usual.

Also, is the FW leman russ hull bigger than the plastic one?

Apologist
10-01-2008, 18:15
know this is a bit late, but I suggest trying something I did a while back. Replace the head of the marine's cherub with a servo-skull from the new Devestator sprue, if you can find one. It fits perfectly and looks great!
Cheers for the idea – I've got three more placcy cherubs to use here and there, and loads of servo skulls, so this'll be a great way to vary them.
Sadly won't be able to make it down to the tournament (I'm running a haflf marathon that weekend), but best of luck. Everyone else – go to that tournament! It's for charity! :)

The latest news on the army – the Tempus Fugitives have recently released their latest update for Dark Stars (my deadline!), which includes Codex: Mechanicus – glee!

This has been the cause of much rejoicing in the factorium-spires of Braun VI. Libations of oil siphoned from the God-Machines of the Legio Victorum have been offered to the Omnissiah, and the voices of ten thousand hymnal-servitors are raised to the heavens.

(Okay, so in real life, I've been carefully rewriting my armylists and planning the next stages of construction.)

There's not been a vast amount of stuff been built, but I have assembled my first Praetorian Infantryman:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0028.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0027.jpg

omricon
10-01-2008, 20:13
its all looking like its coming along very nicely. Thumbs up.

Bob Hunk
10-01-2008, 20:17
Cool, what's the base model for the Praetorian? :)

Vasteye
10-01-2008, 22:55
I'm loving that new model, although it looks pretty fiddly to make a unit of. good luck!

also, did you ever decide on a "little sister" model to go with the big daddies?

and good luck with that marathon!

Apologist
11-01-2008, 12:28
I'm loving that new model, although it looks pretty fiddly to make a unit of. good luck!
Cheers. It's made up of a Micro Art studio 'Iron Brotherhood' model, Forgeworld renegade arms, and a servo skull and servo arm from GW (oh, and a base from Foundations of War).


also, did you ever decide on a "little sister" model to go with the big daddies?
Yep, it's a Hasslefree miniatures girl in a gasmask. She's just a green at the moment, and they've taken down the WIP unfortunately. Cool, nevertheless!


and good luck with that marathon!
Cheers – need to put in a requisition request for some tracks, I think. ;)

CELS
11-01-2008, 13:20
We need more pictures of that tank! Especially comparison shots next to a Leman Russ! Pronto, por favor :)

kiwichild
11-01-2008, 14:00
Goodluck with the marathon, maybe hold off with the track requestion until afterwards, get the best out of those fleshy stumps (legs) before they are turned into protein fluids for the ad mech.
I`m just a lazy clown so do you have a link for those Foundations of War bases? I could use them from me squat project and maybe afew for the GS cult in stasis.

On the subject of Big Daddies and Lil` sisters, why does that sound like an Adult movie? Have you considered this kinda thing:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd50/naganokiwi/img470c5cbfd7b73.jpg
I found it on coolminiornot afew months, picked my jaw off my feet and saved the pic. I don`t know the author of the conversion, but praise be upon them, it`s a beauty!
Its a mordhiem figure (peasent/angry mob) fig all GS/servo-ed up. I have one that I will use as a genestealer patriarch`s henchman? Seems pretty ad-mech to me. Could give you some ideas for variety for you lil` sisters if you pursue that option for the ogryns.

Apologist
11-01-2008, 15:32
I`m just a lazy clown so do you have a link for those Foundations of War bases? I could use them from me squat project and maybe afew for the GS cult in stasis.[quote]
Sure – https://sslrelay.com/www.foundationsofwar.co.uk/sess/utn;jsessionid=1547878d1daa0b1/shopdata/index.shopscript
I think the cobblestone ones would look great on your stunties.

[quote]On the subject of Big Daddies and Lil` sisters, why does that sound like an Adult movie?
*Shudder*

Have you considered this kinda thing:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd50/naganokiwi/img470c5cbfd7b73.jpg
Wow! That's awesome. Might have to poach that – cheers for the heads-up!

On to my armylists!
Points of note:
This is based on the Tempus Fugitive's Codex: Cult Mechanicus. Check out their webpage if you want more info.

Ignore the numbers in square brackets [like this]. They're just my reference to work out what I have and haven't painted.

I also realise that I spunked 455pts on my Heavy Assault Force's HQ. Well, I really like the techpriest models, so had to max them out, really. It's a nails unit (six S8 power fist, six S6 power fist, four S4 power weapon and fifteen S3 power weapon attacks on the charge), assuming it can footslog into combat without taking any casualties... :s :D

I'd appreciate any feedback.
The list is, first and foremost, supposed to be fluffy and use the units I like the look of. In 2005, I ended up playing with two squads of grenadiers instead of my beloved platoons of dogsoldiers for most of the games, so I've made sure there's at least thirty skitarii in each force.

Braun VI Skitarii

Recon Force: 1000
HQ = 205
Elites = 90
Troops = 170 + 360 = 530
Fast Attack = 175

HQ 1: 205
Magos Veneratus (205) [0/1]

Elites 1: 90
Praetorian Maniple (80) [0/5]
Melta Gun (10)

Troops 1: 170
Deathwatch Kill-Team (170) [1/5]

Troops 2: 360
Hypasist Century [30/30]
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Heavy bolter (10)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Heavy bolter (10)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Heavy bolter (10)
Fast Attack 1: 175
Velites (170) [0/10]
One flamer (5)



Main battlegroup: 1500
HQ = 295
Troops = 375 + 270 = 650
Fast Attack = 210
Heavy Support = 170 + 175 = 345

HQ 1 : 295
Magos Prime (100) [1/1]
Three Techpriests (55 x 3 = 165) [3/3]
Three tech servitors (10 x 3 = 30) [3/3]

Troops 1: 375
Hypaspist Century [26/30 – need flamers and one more melta gun]
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Flamer and melta gun (5 +10 = 15)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Flamer and melta gun (5 +10 = 15)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Flamer and melta gun (5 +10 = 15)

Troops 2: 270
Menials (50) [10/10 – but need work]
Improved Menial (20) [0/1]
Eight additional menials, upgraded to COGs (5 x 8 = 40) (8 x 20 = 160) [6/8]

Fast Attack: 210
Centurion Assault Engine (170) [0/1]
Extra Armour and Servitor Crew (15 + 25 = 40)

Heavy Support 1: 170
Reductor Support Battery (100) [0/7] Whirlwind Launchers (70)

Heavy Suppport 2: 175 [1/11 – Techpriest]
Sagitarii Maniple (100) Five Autocannons (15 x 5 = 75)



Heavy Assault Force: 2498

HQ = 455
Elites = 124 + 124 = 248
Troops = 735 + 270 = 1005
Fast Attack = 180
Heavy Support = 390 + 220 = 610

HQ 1 : 455
Magos Prime (100) [1/1]
Five Techpriests (55 x 5 = 275) [5/5]
Two combat servitors (25 x 2 = 50) [2/2] Three tech servitors (10 x 3 = 30) [3/3]

Elite 1: 124
Praetorian Maniple (80) [0/6] Extra member (14) Two plasma guns (15 x 2)

Elite 2: 124
Praetorian Maniple (80) [0/6] Extra member (14) Two plasma guns (15 x 2)

Troops 1: 735
Hypasist Century [48/60]
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Heavy bolter (10)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Heavy bolter (10)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Heavy bolter (10)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Flamer and melta gun (5 +10 = 15)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Flamer and melta gun (5 +10 = 15)
Hypaspist Maniple (110) Flamer and melta gun (5 +10 = 15)

Troops 2: 270
Menials (50) [10/10]
Improved Menial (20) [0/1]
Eight additional menials, upgraded to COGs (5 x 8 = 40) (8 x 20 = 160) [8/8]

Fast Attack 1: 180
Velites (170) [0/10] Two flamers (2 x 5 = 10)

Heavy Support 1: 390
Cataphracti Leman Russ (140) [0/1] Battlecannon (30) Hull heavy bolter and sponson heavy bolters (0) Servitor Crew (20)
Cataphracti Leman Russ (140) [0/1] Demolisher cannon (40) Hull heavy bolter and sponson heavy bolters (0) Servitor Crew (20)

Heavy Support 2: 220
Cataphracti Chimera (110) [0/1] Autocannon turret and hull-mounted heavy bolter (0 + 0)
Cataphracti Chimera (110) [0/1] Autocannon turret and hull-mounted heavy bolter (0 + 0)

Apologist
15-01-2008, 21:40
Amongst the menial laity of Forgeworlds, children are told tales of sentient viruses, endro-goblins and mischievous gremlins to scare them into behaving; to do their chores or to pay more attention to the Techpriesthood.

Adults are not so credulous... and yet there are tales told that chill even the stoutest heart... tales of creatures barely human; tales of ancient and forbidden knowledge: tales of the Arch-Magi Venerati.

The Arch-Magos Hebrian Lucas Zion is over ten thousand years old. In his more lucid moments, he dimly remembers the official Recognition of the Emperor as the Omnissiah; the celebrations of the alliance between the Mechanicum of Mars and the Imperium of Terra; the glories of the Great Crusade; the knowledge gained...

...and the knowledge lost. He remembers the burning of the spires of Mars; spitting on the corpses of Kelbor Hal's followers; the bitter tears of wisdom gained and squandered.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0038.jpg

The lucid moments grow fewer and fewer. More and more isolated by his incredible age and the futile retardation of aging, Zion's mind is increasingly occupied merely with remaining conscious. A burning Will to Knowledge remains; an ember of a former forge.

He pilots an ancient battlesuit of unique design into battle, though his plans and intentions are impossible to understand for most mortals.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0033.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0037.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0036.jpg

Fairly obviously WIP, I'm waiting on his right arm. I've also got to decide what to use to represent a Dreadnought close combat weapon. There's plenty more work to do, including a greenstuff hood.

Let me know what you think!

malika
15-01-2008, 21:50
Is that AT43 stuff I see there?

Lame Duck
15-01-2008, 21:51
I like the battle suit, but i would imagine the guy to be more....integrated into the machine, instead of looking like he is just riding it.

Love the fluff too btw.

Vasteye
15-01-2008, 22:11
that is quite frankly awesome. His pose suggests reclining, as if he's not even that bothered by the fact he's in the middle of a warzone.

and as for a dread weapon, how about some kind of big snippy power klaw? or a mace/bludgeon in the shape of the admech skull?

Apologist
16-01-2008, 09:13
Is that AT43 stuff I see there?
Yep – the legs and main body are made from a Fire Toad.
...with bits from the Marine dreadnought, sentinel, FW renegades, Empire Wizard, IG Lascannon, Baneblade, CoD Manufactorum, Land Raider.

Ick. My bitz box is haemorraging!


I like the battle suit, but i would imagine the guy to be more....integrated into the machine, instead of looking like he is just riding it.
Yeah – I've still got the cockpit/throne to do, which will plug him in a bit more. You can see the beginnings of it a bit better from this angle:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0035.jpg


that is quite frankly awesome. His pose suggests reclining, as if he's not even that bothered by the fact he's in the middle of a warzone.
Thanks – I wanted a sort of 'not really there' feeling to the Arch Magos himself; almost as if he's semi-lucid in the battle, and the suit's doing most of the work.


Love the fluff too btw.
Cheers! I always like writing this stuff – makes the whole hobby more enjoyable for me.

SevenSins
16-01-2008, 11:54
Truly great stuff, Apologist! I just ploughed through the entire thread and it's inspiring.
As for the Arch magos you can always use the rules for Inq.lord Karamazov?

Rather than giving him a big dread cc, how about a cluster of multi-purpose arms (with syringes, claws, saws and whatnots)?

Apologist
16-01-2008, 14:54
Truly great stuff, Apologist! I just ploughed through the entire thread and it's inspiring.
*Warm fuzzy feeling*
*Emotion flush activated: purging*
Mindless Drooling

Thanks!

The Karamazov idea is a great one for more 'official' games – I was planning on using the Witchhunter codex (as you probably know if you've read through the whole thread), so it's a good fit. Perfect WYSIWYG, too!


Rather than giving him a big dread cc, how about a cluster of multi-purpose arms (with syringes, claws, saws and whatnots)?
Now there's an idea... :)

El Presedente
16-01-2008, 15:06
Speaking of, have you any plans for using the Karamazov miniture for anything, it looks like it might have a few good parts that would work for some of you're stuff.

SevenSins
16-01-2008, 17:14
Speaking of, have you any plans for using the Karamazov miniture for anything, it looks like it might have a few good parts that would work for some of you're stuff.

I believe parts of karamazov is already in use :) If you saw the ogryn-"rider" looks alot like K's multimelta-gun servitor

Apologist
17-01-2008, 18:25
I believe parts of karamazov is already in use :) If you saw the ogryn-"rider" looks alot like K's multimelta-gun servitor

Good eyes, SevenSins!

Good news, FW arms arrived today – hurrah!
Bad news, superglue's gone all goopy and non-sticky in my sub-zero room – boo!

Heru Talon
17-01-2008, 19:32
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/Cpl_Saint/Braun%20VI%20Skitarii/DSCN0035.jpg

No matter how many times I look at it, I just can't bring myself to like those legs they just don't look like they fit the model at all (not to mention the inpracticallity of trying to turn with them)...

Apologist
18-01-2008, 00:09
Any suggestions on what you'd do differently? I agree they look a little awkward, and now's the time to change 'em. :)

Colonel Stagler
18-01-2008, 00:14
It looks like Stevie Wonders towering death machine, just look at the way he is moving his head lol
Seriously, great work Apologist mate, Its certainly a new way to represent a Magos on the table.
Stagler Out

Getz
18-01-2008, 09:17
Any suggestions on what you'd do differently? I agree they look a little awkward, and now's the time to change 'em. :)

Dreadnought legs?

Imp of High Noon
18-01-2008, 11:06
Dreadnought legs, and make it Tripedal!

Getz
18-01-2008, 11:13
Dreadnought legs, and make it Tripedal!

Ooh! Good Call...

How about four Sentinel legs, turned upside down and outwards to give a spidery look? A bit like this... (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19385)

precinctomega
18-01-2008, 11:21
In other news, inspired by Precinct Omega's awesome Dark Magenta fanzine, I've dug my =][= Inquisitor models out of storage. Since they're mechanicus, I was tempted to throw them up here. Any interest?

Immediate intervention to say, (1) it's not mine, I am merely the Features and Art Editor (and a regular contributor, it's true) - the Editor-in-Chief is Derek Gillespie, but the magazine is very much a team effort in every way; and (2) Hell, yes! Show us the 54mm techy goodness!!

R.

Heru Talon
18-01-2008, 14:07
Any suggestions on what you'd do differently? I agree they look a little awkward, and now's the time to change 'em. :)

Ditch those legs and the main bulk of the body (the AT43 bits), and start again using a sketch then finding the parts to fit that sketch (rather than the parts dicating how the model will look).