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rikard
15-01-2007, 15:35
Well how can I put this tactfully? GW's current Kroxigors don't exactly fulfil the job description for a large creature with 3 wounds, strength 7 attacks and cause fear (in other words the are the very dicitionary definition of saggy pants) so I took it upon myself to make some much better variations based on some of the 5th and 6th ed GW artwork.

this is Kroxigor number one:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0318.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0312.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0310.jpg
and this one is for a size comparison http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0311.jpg

Hopefully I should finish his GW soon. I will do my best to update this thread at least once a week until all three are finished if I start to fall behind then you are all welcome to angrily spam my PM box :D

Ornithoticus
15-01-2007, 15:44
amazing work, you shouldx get these cast!!

IJW
15-01-2007, 15:54
Great sculpting!

@ Ornithoticus - the model contains existing parts from other models, so any discussion of casting is likely to get this thread locked...

hereticdave
15-01-2007, 17:47
fantastic work!

kermit
15-01-2007, 17:50
Wow... those are very nice. Very smooth GS work there.

Will you be putting up a tutorial on the steps and techniques you use?

Can't wait to see more.

beefpizza
15-01-2007, 18:26
This is amazing work! The tecture you can sculpt is one that I envy and admire! I am so happy to see this quality of work done by others! Keep it up!

speedygogo
15-01-2007, 19:14
Great job! I really like the more bulky style that you are using.

Boss_Salvage
15-01-2007, 19:31
Wow! I actually really like the older Krox, but your WIP one blows it away! Fantastic stuff, looking forward to more.

- Salvage

Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 19:45
There is a kroxigor as should be. Rikard, why ain't you working for GW in the miniature sculptings?

Voronwe

rikard
15-01-2007, 20:36
;1219167']There is a kroxigor as should be. Rikard, why ain't you working for GW in the miniature sculptings?

Voronwe

They wouldn't pay me enough :D I did go for a talk with some of the guys a while back (not an interview) but they said they didn't like my style very much as I made things "too big" or "too muscley" which is kind of ironic seeing as they often sculpt their minis with muscles missing!:wtf:

As for any tutorials I can provide some WIP's of how I build stuff up, (loads and loads of layers). for anyone who is planning on trying to sculpt muscles I strongly recommend getting some silicon tipped Clay shapers which GS doesn't stick too, it means you can use on GS you have literally just mixed instead of waiting for a 30 mins or longer for it to harden.

As for clay shapers there is a good cheap site in the uk here (http://www.artifolk.co.uk/catalog/products/craft_tools_and_accessories/clay_shaper_artists_tool_extra_firm.htm)
size 2 are the best ones avalible. Clay shapers are really good if you are trying to make anything which has to flow or be smooth with no lines in it (like armour and stone), they are very cheap too and definitly worth the price.

Voronwe[MQ]
15-01-2007, 20:42
Didn't like your style? A shame, that. A mix of styles always do well, and your ain't far off from the 'common GW' in my opinion. Some fresh blood, only. Perhaps there is another company accessable looking for more sculptors?

Voronwe

Blatskull
15-01-2007, 21:12
Great, awesome job! It looks a REAL Kroxi, not the currently GW one.

HiredSword.
15-01-2007, 22:23
a great sculpt! But even more importantly than that; a lizardman who looks like the illustrations in the army book. Why the hell couldn't GW do this? They had the drawings but you've created something better than the original models!

Ornithoticus
15-01-2007, 23:03
As for any tutorials I can provide some WIP's of how I build stuff up,

that would definately be useful


Clay shapers are really good if you are trying to make anything which has to flow or be smooth with no lines in it (like armour and stone),

which type of tip do you use? a tapered one or a chisel, or what?

thanks, youre truly and inspiration

Angel Robertson
15-01-2007, 23:24
Have you done any more of these or was he just a one off?

AR

Warwolt the skaven
15-01-2007, 23:29
Cast It Caaaaaaaaaaaast It! Itz Amazing!

IJW
15-01-2007, 23:47
Reminds me a bit of Crocodile Games' Sebeki:

http://www.crocodilegames.com/secure/list_items.asp?CatID=24&SubID=26&pageHeading=Items%20-%20Miniatures%20-%20Aegyptus

sigur
15-01-2007, 23:50
Very nice stuff; the head and the scaly back really look menancing. I'm not a fan of the quite weedy Kroxigors currently produce; I prefer the old Kroxis by far.

AinuLainour
16-01-2007, 00:21
Anatomy on the legs isn't perfect, but considering these are for an army, great work! You have a lot of talent.

Savnock
16-01-2007, 00:57
Anatomy on the legs isn't perfect...

Dude, it's a bioengineered upright-walking lizard. Perhaps it might follow a slightly non-human template?

Good work. Hope you did a whole unit.

rikard
16-01-2007, 07:03
Anatomy on the legs isn't perfect, but considering these are for an army, great work! You have a lot of talent.

Its funny you mentioned that I am a PT and sports massage therapist and so all the muscles you can see (altough very large) are all anatomically correct.

@Angel Robertson:

Yeah the first one I did was Nakai which is a completely 100% non GW mini all of it was hand sculpted by me (pictures to come soon)

As for clay shapers my favourite one has to be the bullet tipped clay shaper fro muscles, tapered from creating smooth flat surfaces and cup chisel for making ridges in armour.

@Savnoc
more pictures to come this thursday I have completely finished the first one and am about 80% complete with the second (who's going to be an ancient)

Voronwe[MQ]
16-01-2007, 07:35
Very well; we'll await them with interest. Now when I thinks about it I believe that Rackham might like your style. I'm not sure, though, doesn't know if they're in need of another sculptor or where they're based.

Voronwe

rikard
16-01-2007, 11:49
Here's another picture with a customised great weapon (taken from the art work at the back of the 6th edition lizardman book) I started off by making a ball of white milliput and lettign it dry.
After that I did one side at a time covering it in GS and using a clay shaper to flaten it.
After both sides have dried I made the metal ridges. and added the spikes aroudn the side. These are oldish pictures so I'll try to get som better ones this afternoon.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0323.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0324.jpg

Angel Robertson
16-01-2007, 12:55
Thats a "great" weapon lol! Really nice and i much prefer these sized kroxigors to the GW ones!

AR

Voronwe[MQ]
16-01-2007, 13:46
That one should seriously have been cast by GW. If nothing else as a 'large Kroxigor' that would be mentioned briefly in background and the model available through Direct. Too big, they said? Pah!

Voronwe

AinuLainour
17-01-2007, 01:01
Maybe it's the sizes of the muscles on the leg?

Anyways just trying to help...

Do you mind posting closer shots of the legs?

Mr.chair
17-01-2007, 02:16
The poses of the current GW Kroxigors look to me like they are in full exercise mode. I don't imagine them doing lunges before the battle starts, so I was especially happy with your posing (more akin to the older models) which gives them the look of purposefully striding forward with the intention of breaking heads. My one small gripe is that one the second Kroxigor it looks like the face is a little too close to the weapon. It may be the angle of the camera though. Anyways, fantastic work. I think all of us would commit murder for your greenstuffing skills...uh but not me. Nope, no murder...at all. :D

whiteshields1830
17-01-2007, 02:20
the weapon really looks too big...much too clumbersome to swing around...that is if it can at all...

otherwise i love the kroxigor could be used as the lizardmen special character...

rikard
17-01-2007, 07:59
Maybe it's the sizes of the muscles on the leg?

Anyways just trying to help...

Do you mind posting closer shots of the legs?

Sorry wasn't meaning to have a go at, I will certainly agree though as the muscles have been enlarged quite a bit to try to take into acount all the heavy lifting they do (not just great weapons but blocks of massive stone) so it is bound to look a little strange.

@Mr.chair: Altough not escential murder always helps (improving hand eye co-ordination) :D

@whiteshields1830: you haven't seen the kroxigor I sculpted yet for Nakai then? :evilgrin:

Angel Robertson
17-01-2007, 08:05
Any chance of a pic of the one for Nakai?

AR

rikard
17-01-2007, 09:19
hes' still undergoing a lot of changes but yes here's a few
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0300.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0301.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0299.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/N-large/AUT_0275.jpg

Boss_Salvage
17-01-2007, 15:18
HOLY O_O

You're stearing me dangerously toward wanting to figure out a way to field a load of giant dinosaur men ... just a pity I'd have to deal with such inferior GeeDub Krox sculpts :P:P:P

Keep up the amazing work.

- Salvage

rikard
17-01-2007, 17:40
HOLY O_O

You're stearing me dangerously toward wanting to figure out a way to field a load of giant dinosaur men ... just a pity I'd have to deal with such inferior GeeDub Krox sculpts :P:P:P

Keep up the amazing work.

- Salvage

Have a look on the Uk GW site there are updated rules for Nakai (6 strength 8 attacks :D )

Voronwe[MQ]
17-01-2007, 17:44
That is excellent! That might be the single best sculpt I've seen so far on Warseer.

Voronwe

Shadow-Under-Rock
17-01-2007, 17:51
Have a look on the Uk GW site there are updated rules for Nakai (6 strength 8 attacks :D )

Were? I cant find them.

And im not even going to try to explain how much I like you models, for that is an task imposible:eek: .

Warwolt the skaven
17-01-2007, 18:02
Lovely, I really do hope you mold these. Youll earn alot >)

Animerik
17-01-2007, 18:03
Ok this is very very very nice. I love the way tou sculpted the first krox he looks great and the weapon is ace! but then I did look further down and did see taht monster... ok now youve done it.. the perfect krox imo scales atonomy and everything looks awsome keep it up! and show us more

Simto
17-01-2007, 18:19
This is some serious Golden Demon stuff !

Velkyn Kyil
17-01-2007, 18:27
Awesome!

(1234)

Boss_Salvage
17-01-2007, 18:28
Found the rules: KROX 'SPLOSION (http://uk.games-workshop.com/convershunklinic/wh-nakai/assets/nakai.pdf)

*in love*

- Salvage

Dr Death
17-01-2007, 18:51
I have to put praise in as well, these are very very very good. I've actually been thinking about resculpting the entire lizardman range recently because i truly hate so many of the sculpts (the saurus notably) and i've had a picture of your first kroxigor lurking on my hard drive for ages as an inspiration but never knew who actually made it so consider me 'a fan'. That said i'm not too keen on the weapon you've given the first one- the club head is a little too chunky for my tastes and spoils the model somewhat- reduce the size of it and it'll look a little better imho.

Dr Death

sanctusmortis
17-01-2007, 19:16
Subscribed. My jaw hurts.

Eisenhorn
17-01-2007, 19:42
They wouldn't pay me enough :D I did go for a talk with some of the guys a while back (not an interview) but they said they didn't like my style very much as I made things "too big" or "too muscley" which is kind of ironic seeing as they often sculpt their minis with muscles missing!:wtf:

As for any tutorials I can provide some WIP's of how I build stuff up, (loads and loads of layers). for anyone who is planning on trying to sculpt muscles I strongly recommend getting some silicon tipped Clay shapers which GS doesn't stick too, it means you can use on GS you have literally just mixed instead of waiting for a 30 mins or longer for it to harden.

As for clay shapers there is a good cheap site in the uk here (http://www.artifolk.co.uk/catalog/products/craft_tools_and_accessories/clay_shaper_artists_tool_extra_firm.htm)
size 2 are the best ones avalible. Clay shapers are really good if you are trying to make anything which has to flow or be smooth with no lines in it (like armour and stone), they are very cheap too and definitly worth the price.


You just made my day:D

I have been looking all over for tools like this. And here they are just out of the blue.

Thank you kind sir, thank you.:cries:

BTW extremly nice work on the Krox's i like the way you did the head and scales on the back. Keep up the good work and again thank you.

rikard
18-01-2007, 17:43
you're welcome,

Anyways moving on to Kroxigor number 2, I wanted him to have a more dynamic stance than the other GW Kroxigors and also emphasise just how heavy a GW is. I started off by cutting and pinning the arms into a different position so that it looks as though he is about to swing the axe. I also hunched one of his shoulders to demonstrate the weapons wieght. I then made a basic GS layer to give the arms support and strength. Once tried I then began a detailed sculpt of the arms. I also cut the legs and placed some GS and wire in them to lengthen them like the first Kroxigor (5thed Kroxigors have tiny unrealistic legs in comparrison with the rest of their body.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/N-large/AUT_0336.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/N-large/AUT_0335.jpg
More pictures to come very soon I was not happy with the scales on his head so I am in the process of sculpting a skull helmet like the Temple guard have to make him look more striking.

Mephistofeles
18-01-2007, 21:03
Oh my, just saw this log, and holy cow those are darn sweet!

Keep it up!

Gonfrask
19-01-2007, 01:06
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/N-large/AUT_0275.jpg

Ey, this is a T-rex, nice work!!

rikard
19-01-2007, 08:07
things are going really well at the moment and I am making more progess so I have begun to sculpt both the legs and tail as well as adding more layers of detail to the arms chest and back. I have also sculpted about 60% of his GW so I have included a picture of that too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0342.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0341.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0339.jpg

Hideous Loon
19-01-2007, 09:08
Good work, rikard, they look nice and brutal. Much better than GW's Kroxigors, at any rate.

Animerik
19-01-2007, 12:54
wow he looks like arnold in krox form! I likey. The gws are awsome Im going to steal the ball idea if thats ok?. The second gw is awmazing the detail is ace I dont know what to say.... keep on working these ar so good I think GW should buy them from you and cast them!

jasevx
19-01-2007, 13:16
you are the green stuff king!

bram kuijpers
19-01-2007, 13:19
why dont you go work at gw to sculpt some tings

rikard
19-01-2007, 16:17
wow he looks like arnold in krox form! I likey. The gws are awsome Im going to steal the ball idea if thats ok?. The second gw is awmazing the detail is ace I dont know what to say.... keep on working these ar so good I think GW should buy them from you and cast them!

By all means go ahead (PM me if you need some help) I'm glad you like how the project is unfolding. As for names I have decided to nickname them Arnie, Ronnie and Jay :D .

@jasevx: you may rise ;)

@bram kuijpers: To be honest if I was offered a job as a sculptor by GW I would probably turn it down for the reason that I have recently done some commission sculpts and TBH I didn't enjoy doing it, it took all the fun out of it and as a result I spent about 2-3 weeks afterwards sculpting and painting nothing, I enjoy sculpting for myself and I get much more detail done and in a faster time too.

The Finn
19-01-2007, 18:28
When you work with GS, how long do you let it sit? Do you dip your tools in water or use Vaseline? Do you use any non-standard tools that you find effective, like pins, paper clips, etc? How the HELL did you get that level of detail on that weapon?

I have a lot of questions. :D

HiredSword.
19-01-2007, 18:29
they look excellent, but have you any ideas about resculpting most of the rest of the lizardmen range to look presentable?

rikard
19-01-2007, 20:04
When you work with GS, how long do you let it sit? Do you dip your tools in water or use Vaseline? Do you use any non-standard tools that you find effective, like pins, paper clips, etc? How the HELL did you get that level of detail on that weapon?

I have a lot of questions. :D

Ok quite a few questions here so I will do what I can:
1: Depends, most of the time I start right away, if I'm doing fine detail then I give it 30 mins
2: Neither (too much water makes things much worse and the GS won't stick) but vaseline is supposed to be good
3: No
4: Practice, patience and a steady hand

@HiredSword: er.... its on my to do list:rolleyes: I have been wondering about re-doing the carnosaur but that won't be for a long time.

HiredSword.
19-01-2007, 22:12
I'm surprised you don't use water, I usually find that it sticks to the scalpel and actually comes off the model. I've found its better to wet the knife rather than the greenstuff.

rikard
20-01-2007, 22:27
Well work is a pain at the moment and is really begining to slow me down, however I do have some more pictures for you all.
First off is the base (altough not finished yet I will still be adding some bits and pieces to it) I have included a picture of his great weapon next to his feet so you can get an idea of size and I have finally finished the other foot so have included a picture of him standing up (not even glued down)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0351.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0348.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0347.jpg

Any questions, ideas, or recipies for chocolate desserts ask away

Animerik
21-01-2007, 01:23
I love it all the way, the base is top notch! and the gw :P mind blowing, I think the feet are a bit small thats my only complain.... keep the god like work up

Loketh Latheliu
21-01-2007, 01:43
Dang, those are hundreds of times better than GW 'gors! My favorite part is the variety in head shapes and sizes (tyranosaurus, bony, etc.). Keep it up!

Jonahmaul
22-01-2007, 21:45
These are amazing. Wish I had the skill to be able to sculp like that. As it is I'm stuck with 6 of the current ones! I think they're much better than the last ones though.

Warwolt the skaven
22-01-2007, 22:08
This always helps me get inspired to sculpt more... hence. This is probably what made me start sculptin' nurglings for seriousness :o

Braad
22-01-2007, 22:10
So... one negative point. If you ask me, the final touch on your green stuff is not as smooth as it could be, on certain parts.

But apart from that, they rock big time! I really like the muscles and poses of these guys, especially compared to the GW ones. These are truly big 'n nasty.
I'll keep checking this log, that's for sure, can't wait to see them painted.

rikard
23-01-2007, 09:22
So... one negative point. If you ask me, the final touch on your green stuff is not as smooth as it could be, on certain parts.

But apart from that, they rock big time! I really like the muscles and poses of these guys, especially compared to the GW ones. These are truly big 'n nasty.
I'll keep checking this log, that's for sure, can't wait to see them painted.

Any particular bits? I think I know what you mean but would like some areas pointed out so I can correct/improve them if posible.

@Animerik:
I know what you mean I've tried to convert the feet but I'm not finding it very easy (skills with GS aren't that great or as good as I would like them to be ATM) but practice makes perfect right? ;)

I have finished the bulky scales on his thighs (more pictures tonight) I have also taken some WIP photos so you can see the processes I use to make spiky and bumpy scales. I have also begun to make the 3rd Kroxigor and will put up some piccies soon altough he really doesn't look impressive at all as I need to chop and change a lot of bits and pieces first.

With the Ancient I am working on the tail decorations and the tail scales at the moment but other than that I am getting on quite well, very soon I will be able to begin to make a Stegadon like helm for him to wear to show him up as ancient.

Any suggestions, photos, ideas or comments/ critiscm please post it as though I may not always answer every post directly I do read each one carefully (and not just because of dyslexia :P ) and value your opinions.

Big thanks

Jonahmaul
23-01-2007, 10:52
Although I think your ancient is going to look amazing they ar a waste of points in the game, 20 points for an extra attack just isn't worth it.

rikard
23-01-2007, 11:02
I agree to a point, obviously an ancient has other advantages than his +1 attack, from a modeling point of view it made sense to me to make one of the 3 stand out more as an ancient (even if I don't use him as one) a good example of this si to look at the 3 current edition kroigors as one has been deliberatly designed to look like an ancient also if I decide to sell them then it make more sense IMHO to have that option.

Besides which every anceint has his day (mine creamed an elector count once) :eek:

Jonahmaul
23-01-2007, 11:53
Which one is designed to be the ancient? I've got two of each of them & they all look quite samey to me but I assume it's the one holding his weapon out in front of him in quite a static pose?

From a modelling point of view I agree that it makes sense as it will also provide a focal point for the unit. With your skill I think it would look amazing as well so I'm very excited to see the finished product.

rikard
23-01-2007, 12:14
Yeah the one holding his GW infornt of him with his mouth open.

Here's another photo with a few more changes done (though no scales in these photos on the legs) Don't worry about the handle at the bottom of the GW I removed it and replaced it with somethign better looking and smaller so as to get rid of the cricket bat quality. I also smoothed over some of the inperfections on the 1st krox too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0360.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0359.jpg

ss_cherubael
23-01-2007, 14:06
FETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just stumbled onto this log. Sweet god emperor those are the best lizardmen miniatures i have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!

I really cant see anything wrong with them at all. Keep up the great work!

Captain_Wolverine
23-01-2007, 14:10
One thing with the great conversion the feet are to small, being a biologist the feet won't support them, I know this is fantasy and size doe npt matter but makeing them bigger my be a good idea worth concidering

Boss_Salvage
23-01-2007, 15:16
... if I decide to sell them ...
:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Also: That second great weapon is freaking giant, and actually even too OTT for me, especially as he looks like he's ready to paddle someone with it, not smashing them in half. Maybe it's the pic though and the head of the gw doesn't need to be rotated ...

Otherwise, looking fantastic!

- Salvage

EDIT: Changed my mind on the gw, he looks like he's about to swipe it horizontally, clefting in twain instead of splitting in two top-down. Not bad at all.

rikard
23-01-2007, 15:45
One thing with the great conversion the feet are to small, being a biologist the feet won't support them, I know this is fantasy and size doe npt matter but makeing them bigger my be a good idea worth concidering

I think you're right I didn't notice it until it was mentioned before. I will have a go at the feet towards the end of the project (not sure how it will turn out) I have done feet before heres an example (feet for Nakai)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/N-large/AUT_0266.jpg

@Boss_Salvage
Unfortunately despite my venerable age of nearly 25 (DEAR LORD I AM NEARLY A QUATER OF A CENTUARY!!!) I am a bit of a kid at heart and have a bad habit of er.....getting carried away with things like Great weapons, I'll try to behave myself on the third one.

Jonahmaul
23-01-2007, 17:02
@Boss_Salvage
Unfortunately despite my venerable age of nearly 25 (DEAR LORD I AM NEARLY A QUATER OF A CENTUARY!!!) I am a bit of a kid at heart and have a bad habit of er.....getting carried away with things like Great weapons, I'll try to behave myself on the third one.

Last time i checked 25 was quarter of a century?!?!?!

Voronwe[MQ]
23-01-2007, 17:15
Very good detailing! Still following this.


Last time i checked 25 was quarter of a century?!?!?!
Er? A quarter is a fourth, hence 25 is a quarter of a century (100 years).

Voronwe

Captain_Wolverine
23-01-2007, 17:29
Last time i checked 25 was quarter of a century?!?!?!

I'm 25 too do you need to rub it in! lol!

rikard
23-01-2007, 17:38
LOL, what have I started!!!!!!! (I said nearly 25 so that therefore makes me nearly a quater of a century :p )

Anways back on topic as promised here is the legs now with scales (if necessary I can provide WIP pictures for how I build them up and shape them) As you can see I have nearly finished the tail as well (sculpting armoured plates and a tail cover (similar to the ones on most saurus but this one is stone and gold plated)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0372.jpg

Jonahmaul
23-01-2007, 22:10
I completely missed the nearly when I read it otherwise I wouldn't have said anything - sorry!! I'm also in that club, turn 25 myself in a couple of months.

hertz
23-01-2007, 23:26
Rikard, you know that you rock, dont cha?

how longtime does it take you to remodel one like that?

Eisenhorn
24-01-2007, 03:00
Looking great so far. You have a nice style of sculpting. I just wonder what you did to the first krox. When you said you smoothed the GS work on it. Cause on the last picture it is all a light green color?

BTW Just orderd some of the silicone tiped sculpting tools. :D

Leminy_Fresch
24-01-2007, 03:22
holy crap...that is a big weapon...

rikard
24-01-2007, 09:15
Rikard, you know that you rock, dont cha?

how longtime does it take you to remodel one like that?

I do :eek: Victory dance!!!!!!!!!!!! http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g172/titan0/run.gif
difficult to say, the first krox took me about 4 days in total including weapon but this one is taking me longer and not just because of work.

@Eisenhorn:
I smoothed over the uneven surfaces with greenstuff and the light Green stuff is a mix of white milliput and Green stuff.

Scanno
24-01-2007, 10:49
These are some rather nice models, glad I stumbled upon your blog. The first guy's head resculpt is fantastic. More lizardmen than the lizardmen themselves.

The new great weapon's frikkin' massive! Nice and fitting with GW's styling though, although I wouldn't like to try lugging around a scaled up version.

MaxORK
24-01-2007, 11:14
I love it mate well done!

If I could think of anything to alter it would be to face the 'big fookin axe' so the edge is pointing taowards the enemy not the flat of the axe, that position doesn't make sense?

rikard
25-01-2007, 18:17
glad everyone likes it (vaguely?) so far I'll probably be making more changes once all 3 are finished but for the moment I'm going to plod on....

Sorry about the lack of updates recently, I have now finished the Ancient though I had some major trouble, I decided to make a skull helmet but found out after much sculpting that due to the size and shape of his head it would be impossible to see past the helmet so he can't see whos he's fighting :wacko:. So I had to take off all my hard work and just gave him some more simple spins instead.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0380.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0379.jpg
this aside work on the 3rd Kroxigor is well underway with the great weapon in good stages and the head now finished I have moved onto the lower layers of muscle and so have started by doing the fiddly bits first (his rotator cuffs, lats, serratus anterior, intercostals and oblquies) Or that large group of muscles you can see :P Because of the way he will be holding the great weapon the rotator cuffs and the lats in particular will flair up to help lift the weight giving him a large V-shape to his back.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0382.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0381.jpg
Bah! useless camera's too bright you can't see much of the detail, I'll try ot get some better ones later on.
Enjoy.

Gonfrask
26-01-2007, 00:18
So...you made the muscles...the skin also??

rikard
28-01-2007, 19:31
So...you made the muscles...the skin also??

Yeah, I usually sculpt details on the muscles if they are going to be visible (or bits of them visible) Anyways rather late I know (caused by split thumbs and fingers which makes green stuff difficult to use) but here are some updated pictures of the ancient with a little more work done to the face and the 3rd Kroxigor.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0393.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0392.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0391.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0390.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0389.jpg

Hideous Loon
28-01-2007, 20:08
I require a group shot! And a full-body shot wouldn't be all bad, too.

Paulus
28-01-2007, 20:27
Did you injure yourself doing one of those, me thinks me spys blood?

Lookin good though!

rikard
28-01-2007, 22:54
Did you injure yourself doing one of those, me thinks me spys blood?

Lookin good though!

You got me on that one, yes its blood caused by this damn cold weather and heavy weights in the gym, My thumb split on the tip infront of the nail and begins to bleed if I get overly zealous with mixing GS (in other words just about every time I try mixing GS) I have some smaller cuts on my other fingers too which have been slowing me down.

Bah I hate this weather!:mad:

@Hideous Loon I haven't even begun on the legs yet but I will provide a group photo when they are all done.

I have finished the forearms too now and so will begin the larger scales on the back tomorrow, more pictures hopefully by mid week.

Paulus
28-01-2007, 23:14
Ouch Rikard, you truely do suffer for your art!

Keep up the good work, don't go too far though it's going to do that to your hands.

hertz
28-01-2007, 23:25
Poses looks good, and muscles look fantastic!
hope your thumb heals up, and be more careful on the gym.

happy_doctor
28-01-2007, 23:57
I'm awe-struck...
Really, these are simply the best kroxigors i've ever seen!
These things look like they can actually hit something with S7!
"Perfect Sculpting Award" given!

P.S.: Have u considered entering the Golden Demon competition with these??

Mr.chair
31-01-2007, 01:36
Yeah, I tell girls that the blood on my models is from working out, but they don't tend to buy it (possibly due to my twiggy arms or maybe because of my use of too much red food coloring for the blood effects).

On a more serious note, things are continuing along nicely. I'm always happy to see a good project continuing. Most of you sculpting savants like to start a thread show casing your masterful abilities and then abandon it for another project. These are great! I hope you stick with it long enough for me to see them painted!

sir_robin
31-01-2007, 20:50
:eek: :eek:
i'm simply awe-struck!how can you sculp so goddamn good:wtf:
keep up the good work mate!:D

VainEnd
01-02-2007, 03:04
I cant wait untill they are painted, these are amazing

Galdur Hrafnsson
01-02-2007, 03:36
:eek: :eek:
i'm simply awe-struck!how can you sculp so goddamn good:wtf:


Practice, good sir. Practice.

Luke
01-02-2007, 09:48
Wow, these guys blow the GW kroxis out of the water. Seriously, you should get these cast up on the sly.

Love those great weapons by the way, most appropriate.

Roel?
01-02-2007, 12:49
These obviously cause str7 hits! Great sculpting man.

rikard
01-02-2007, 13:09
I'm awe-struck...
Really, these are simply the best kroxigors i've ever seen!
These things look like they can actually hit something with S7!
"Perfect Sculpting Award" given!

P.S.: Have u considered entering the Golden Demon competition with these??


No I haven't main reason being my painting isn't that great, but thank you for the praise as I have not considered any of my sculpting worthy enough to be entered in a GD. I suppose I could do a tag team with someone (I sculpt they paint if I get really good).

@sir_robin:
Galdur Hrafnsson has got the write idea practice, practice and more practice believ me you don't want to see what my first attempts where like and I probably wasted a small fortune in GS just practicing. I would say that for me one of the biggest helps is to get inspired to sculpt something and really consetrate on how its going to look, get your self in the right mind set and everything else will follow. One of the things I do when I sculpt is I look at a bit I've going to sculpt and ask myself which tool (clay shaper or dental) will give me the shape I want?

@Mr.chair:
Yeah I'm have a few other projects lined up but I won't be starting on them until I have finished all 3 Kroxigors (including feet)

Anyways time for a little update, the thumb has been giving me more grief and so I've been using a super glue healing product which is helping (called clear skin) so I have some more pictures. The Kroxigor ancient I added a little more to his mouth to give him some scales and a few scars. I have also finsihed the forearms of the 3rd Krox and sorted out any messy areas on the upper arms.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0394.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0395.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0396.jpg
And finally my thumb! (don't worry its not infected :P)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0397.jpg

Gonfrask
01-02-2007, 15:21
Yummm, im hungry XD

rikard
04-02-2007, 15:36
I would like to thank everyone for the support suggestions and general comments, but I have some bad news :( unfortunately my thumb has got progessively worse (my back my like racked deadlifts and my shoulders may like clean and jerks but my thumbs don't). My thumb is now basically a lump of raw flesh and so needs some serious rest, so I'm under orders to leave the sculpting for a few weeks while it heals :(.

I will pick this thread up again as soon as my thumb fully recovers.

Paulus
04-02-2007, 15:41
Get well soon man, look forward to seeing what else you have in store once your thumbs healed up.

beefpizza
04-02-2007, 16:25
hope your thumb gets better, rest that up!

hertz
04-02-2007, 23:21
dang, that sucks! I who where looking forward to see those lizzies done soon...

Get well soon, man!

Gonfrask
05-02-2007, 00:58
Oh, take rest rikard, well be mercifull with you when you return

Animerik
05-02-2007, 01:05
sorry to hear about you thumb man hope it will be fully healed and that youll be back with this marvelous thread soon again, best of luck to ye lizardman ^^

NakedFisherman
14-02-2007, 17:04
The current Kroxigors are too small and the older ones have terrible scales. Yours look great.

rikard
15-02-2007, 18:24
Well my thumb is healing a little but its a slow process (and if you look at the mini below quite a messy one too :rolleyes: ) I was able to do a bit more work but had to stop as things started getting messy again.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0412.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0413.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0414.jpg

Thank you all for the help, support, critique and everything!

I will be continuing again with this project as soon as I am able.

schoolcormorant
15-02-2007, 18:33
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0397.jpg

ahhh run for the hills :eek:

i really like you're sculpting, the skiin on the backs even looks tough like hide because of the shapes, its really nice stuff :)

look after the thumb, you'll need it for more of this amazing sculpting

SC

The Judge
15-02-2007, 18:38
Oh yeah, that is damn pretty.

hertz
15-02-2007, 23:52
yuor sculpting are ace and wonderful your thumb does not, so let it heal, so you dont get gangrene and it fall of! :P

Gonfrask
16-02-2007, 00:05
Rikard...rest...

Savnock
16-02-2007, 02:54
Have you considered those little rubber finger-cot things? I know clay sculptors who use them after abrading all the skin off their tips, and they apparently work great.

rikard
16-02-2007, 07:38
Thanks guys,
@Savnock Haven't heard of them but if things don't get better I'll look into it. The mian culprate seems to be the weather as other people are having the same problems with their fingers, this coupled with working in an airconditioned gym andweight lifting seem to be a bit of a hiderance too.

Ah well been using moisturiser which has been helping (and yes I am aware that is incredibly girly of me! :rolleyes: )

Voronwe[MQ]
16-02-2007, 08:57
Ah, some progress. Is that blood on the kroxigor's left side?

Voronwe

bram kuijpers
16-02-2007, 09:08
;1305361']Ah, some progress. Is that blood on the kroxigor's left side?

Voronwe

ha kroxigor scores first blood:skull:

Jonahmaul
16-02-2007, 09:12
Rikard, I work part time in a pub and during the colder months it wrecks my hands because of all the liquid i get on them & then don't dry them off properly & I end up getting a lot of similar cracks which are painful & bleed. I've found the best way to combat this is to use Aqueous Cream which is a lanolin & perfume free moisturiser which a lot of people with excema use. The stuff is like a wonder cure & is dirt cheap, a vat of the stuff (500g) will only cost about 2 over the counter from Boots so that might be worth considering.

PS - The Krox is looking awesome.

+_Void_Crusaders_+
16-02-2007, 10:05
All of those Lizzies look awesome! The only small suggestion I'd have, I thought I read someone suggest it as well, would be to reposition the 2nd krox's great weapon so that it sort of matches the trajectory that his hands look to be taking it.

Thumb looks nice, hopefully you can continue soon

rikard
17-02-2007, 08:30
At the moment I am waiting on some latex gloves to try and save my hands a bit as I don't want a repeat when they do heal and I want to be able to carry on ASAP. This coupled up with another Commission sculpt (and yes its another Kroxigor!) means I need to pull my finger out (AHA! I made a funny!).

I'll carry on soon but for the moment heres something else I did a few days ago as an experiment for a Wardancer noble/highborn (was originally a demonette)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0421.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0422.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0423.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0424.jpg

Thanks again for being so patient and for the critiques as soon as I'm done with this last Kroxigor I will be goign back and making some changes.

Voronwe[MQ]
17-02-2007, 11:58
Rikard, that Do It Yourself Wardancer is awesome; I bet GW would use it as a special edition model for Games Day or something.

Voronwe

rikard
17-02-2007, 12:05
;1308483']Rikard, that Do It Yourself Wardancer is awesome; I bet GW would use it as a special edition model for Games Day or something.

Voronwe

Then they had better pay me royalties :p Thanks I had a load of green stuff which had become too hard for the other sculpt but was just right for making vines and leaves so I decided to put it to good use rather than waste it. As for the other commission sculpt here's a super sneak peak.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0425.jpg

Boss_Salvage
20-02-2007, 15:39
O_O @ sneak peek

On the wardancer, she looks good, impressive green stuff mods. Bit too much 'big hair' for me, but then again I like the demonettes as they are :evilgrin:

- Salvage

Jonahmaul
20-02-2007, 22:03
That other Kroxigor your doing looks awesome, I really love your lizards. I do like that Wardancer although two qualms I have with it are that it looks a little too like a Witch Elf at the moment & I don't really like the vines on the knife. Please feel free to ignore this though as I could never do anything so talented!

PS. can you post a full picture of the Lizardmen special character (can't remember it's name) that you mentioned earlier in the thread so we can see it in all it's glory please.

rikard
27-02-2007, 08:53
Well I have some bad news and some good news.

Bad News:
3rd Kroxigor has to be put on hold while I finish this comission :(

Good News:
My thumb has healed enough that I can sculpt again, but even better than this the commission is a Nakai sculpt which will hopefully work out better than my current one. So here's some pictures (don't worry about the 3rd Krox he is not forgotten about as a 3 Krox unit wouldn't be a 3 Krox unit without 3 Kroxigors)

So first off here's some pictures of the Axe for Nakai.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0401.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0406.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0410.jpg

beefpizza
27-02-2007, 13:39
Man, your work is so good. The knowledge you have on muscles is shown in such awesomeness that I can't wait to see what you do next.

rikard
28-02-2007, 22:42
Thnaks guys,
@beefpizza: I found an anatomy chart showing front and back views of the human anatomy, while being qualified as a sports massage therapist always helps having referance material infront of you really makes much more of a difference.
@Jonahmaul I agree I will probably remove the vines and likely the weapons too and try to sculpt something more suitable.

Anyways here's some more pictures as I have finished the first hand and am now working on getting the axe head and haft finished (or at least completed to a stage so that I can attach them)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0431.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0430.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0429.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0428.jpg

hertz
01-03-2007, 02:00
nice detailwork, that arm looks correct for all that I can judge, and the skin look ... weathered. Suitable on such an ancient wanderer as Nakai! When do we get updates?

pox
01-03-2007, 06:35
mind-numbing good work. your anatomy sculpting verges on ridiculous. the tendon work moving inside the flesh, but outside the obvious skeleton structure is soo exact, it makes me wanna cry. that closed claw is perfect from every angle.

(also nice to see nakai has 1-2% body fat. he must be gettin' ready for competition.)

rikard
01-03-2007, 08:40
(also nice to see nakai has 1-2% body fat. he must be gettin' ready for competition.)

Yes I have him on a diet of Chicken breasts, porridge oats (with water not milk) and loads of green leafy veg (which he doesn't like :p) so only about 1100-1200 calories a day :p
here's the picture I have been using for muscle, tendon referances.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/Anatomy.jpg

I have also been using my sports massage book for referances to hands so I have all the boney promenances in the right places.

EDIT: I should have this updated again hopefully tonight as I now have 2 days off work (finally!) so should be able to spend a great deal of time at the table, I have decided to add the axe haft first and finish the axe head before I move on to the lower and then upper jaw.

beefpizza
01-03-2007, 13:37
That chart is very helpful! Thank you! I have looked around on the internet but this is the best I have seen.
Also the work on the hand and arm looks great.

75hastings69
01-03-2007, 14:57
@ Rikard, man you rule!!! that arm/hand/claw detail is some of the best sculpt work I have ever seen! can't wait to see this finished!!!

kruzkal
01-03-2007, 15:23
Absolutely fantastic work!!!

Gonfrask
02-03-2007, 00:55
He, I was thinking about ask you just this, what were you using like ference...I must thank you that you upload it, is very usefull
Of course, another great model!

bluebugs
02-03-2007, 07:09
Dude, the kroxlooks awesome and sorry if this isn'tmy beast of comments, a little drunk right now. Anyway dude you totally rock and that'sthe sober side talking. keep it going, bluebugs. Gotta get back to my G/f now who is worst off than mee. tata!!!

rikard
02-03-2007, 16:13
Things are going well (first day off in 2 weeks Wohoo!) so here's a progress report I have been working hard on the axe head and have done a very basic sculpt for the axe haft mainly adding strength to it and playing with ideas and designs. I decided to go an Lizardmen old school style of design with the weapons by making it look more animalistic and so added a large snake design as part of the back of the axe head. I have also done a very basic sculpt for the lower jaw whihc looks like not much at the moment but will soon have some bits added to it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0435.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0434.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0437.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0438.jpg

Hopefully by monday I should have some more solid bits and pieces to show.

Jigsaw
02-03-2007, 17:45
Your work is amazing! Thats the way kroxigors shall look like :D

DigitsDavid
02-03-2007, 17:51
This thread is great, I'm learning a lot about green stuff and I'll be using that muscle chart too.

Keep it coming.

Voronwe[MQ]
02-03-2007, 19:44
Rikard, that rocks! As for the muscles I've to say two things: !) I'm still able to enumerate all the muscles we'd to learn on the biology lesson for some weeks ago by ranting 'em up. 2) Whilst that guide is good, one should always answer on "you've got such a great knowledge on muscles" with "It's just from looking in the mirror".

Voronwe

Ventris_Fellstorm
02-03-2007, 19:57
OH-MY-GOD-THOSE-ARE-TINY-!-!-!

In all seriousness (<-that's not a word is it?) those are god darn sweeeeet! Keep it going!

Voronwe[MQ]
02-03-2007, 20:04
Alright, time to smash your dining forks and knives on the table, folks! KEEP IT GOING! KEEP IT GOING! KEEP IT GOING!

Anyway, "seriousness" is a gramatically accepted word, or at least I've used it as one.

Oh, and time for ol' Get-Rikard-Onto-The-Market-Now!-Joe: You might actually considering to sculpt models yourself and cast them when you're sure there is a high enough request for them - supposedly after a quick market survey-sweep here on Warseer.

Voronwe

rikard
02-03-2007, 20:22
;1347967']Alright, time to smash your dining forks and knives on the table, folks! KEEP IT GOING! KEEP IT GOING! KEEP IT GOING!

Anyway, "seriousness" is a gramatically accepted word, or at least I've used it as one.

Oh, and time for ol' Get-Rikard-Onto-The-Market-Now!-Joe: You might actually considering to sculpt models yourself and cast them when you're sure there is a high enough request for them - supposedly after a quick market survey-sweep here on Warseer.

Voronwe

Thanks, I don't really have the time for commission and you won't believe how long it took me just to sculpt the axe head, however if all goes well with this I may contemplate it altough I have no idea how easy/hard it will be. As for the muscle anatomy its funny you should say that, but aside from the sports massage and personal training I am a natural bodybuilder :D (so no testicle shrinking drugs for me! :p ) and so it always helps.

I'm glad about the muscle chart as EVERYONE should have and use one, look at the Avatars of War photo with the Elf and in the background you will see that Felix uses very similar charts too when designing minis.

rikard
03-03-2007, 08:46
Well my day off is now over and I've been told I won't get another one for 2 weeks due to staff holiday :( . However I did manage to get some more work done :D . I have broken away from having too much of a dino like look as I don't want the head to just look like a carbon copy of a rex head, I want it to have a little more character and unique feel so I sculpted some spikes around the jaw (he is supposed to be blessed by Quetzl after all)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0440.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0439.jpg

Hideous Loon
03-03-2007, 09:23
Darn nice Nakai, I must say. Any plans on casting it?

Voronwe[MQ]
03-03-2007, 09:33
That's damn nice! If you're able to paint them up really well you'll have a fair chance in Golden Demon.

Voronwe

beefpizza
03-03-2007, 18:02
wow, i love the work on the spikes!
do you think the neck is going to be too long?

Voronwe[MQ]
03-03-2007, 20:39
If you mean "you" as in pluralis, it'd mean we're invited to the party and then I'd say "he'll fix it by thickening the back of the neck and the jaw."

Voronwe

rikard
03-03-2007, 21:19
The neck should be ok (fingers crossed) at the moment it will look long because what you see is only a basic sculpt which is supporting the head. Once I have finished the head (which is proving dead fiddly) I will then move onto the neck and creating neck muscles and scales to connect the two.

It's still early days with the upper head at the moment as it involves tons of stages (just making the eyes takes up 2 complete stages for me as I make the eyelids first let them dry and then the eye balls which is longer but far easier than trying to make slits in a single ball of GS). Hopefully like I said earlier on I should have some good pics to show you on monday, but at the moment its too early to tell how things are going to work out.

What I'll also do is photograph the complete head with a 5th ed Kroxigor head I have kicking about.

*Returns to sculpting desk*

rikard
05-03-2007, 14:53
Well things have been long and irritating in places but here's the latest. I am feeling a little on the drained side at the moment and with the 56 hours week I have now been lumbered with things may slow down a bit (hopefully some more stuff by wednesday evening at the latest) Its hard to see but he does have nostrels on either side of his snout they are lying inbetween scales and so are not too easy to see. I also held a 5th Krox head in the pic too so you can get an idea of size.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0442.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0441.jpg

75hastings69
05-03-2007, 15:01
This is just amazing Rikard!!! I cant wait to see more!!

Ornithoticus
05-03-2007, 22:56
yeah beautiful mini, looks so gnarled and natural, just awesome

hertz
06-03-2007, 11:23
wow, now i found something I can criticize!
I believe that the nose and nose ridge are to thick, or fat, like a teddy bear, and it should have a more straight line from the eyes to the end of the nose.
i hope that that made some sense, but remember that it is only my opinion.

rikard
06-03-2007, 20:46
wow, now i found something I can criticize!
I believe that the nose and nose ridge are to thick, or fat, like a teddy bear, and it should have a more straight line from the eyes to the end of the nose.
i hope that that made some sense, but remember that it is only my opinion.


It made sense (I think o_0), do remember though that whether or not its has too much of a curve I have altered the design of the skull as I don't want a generic T-rex head I want something different. Also remember that its still really early days for everything not just the head, I haven't even finsihed making alterations to anything, he still needs connecting scales and loads of face plates, jewelery, trinkets (you get the idea).

Still its interesting to see what you mean though I personally wouldn't liken his face to that of a teddy bear :p

Voronwe[MQ]
No plans for any GD's I'm not great at painting (I'd get maybe a 6.5 by CMON standards) and I don't think my sculpting is on par with the other enteries you see.

Hideous Loon
No, I would need to get a serious amount of people approaching me before I even consider it.

Gonfrask
07-03-2007, 00:31
Again,a nice stuff. A question, what are you going to do with them? sell them?? or we will see them in a future GD?

rikard
07-03-2007, 07:21
Nah, just use them to add a little flavour to my 1500-2000 point Lizardman army. If I get tempted to sell them though I will let you know ;)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0443.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0444.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0445.jpg
Well thats your lot for a while I'm affraid work is intense at the moment as there are 2 of us doing a 56 hour week and no breaks until the 16th of March.

Voronwe[MQ]
07-03-2007, 07:26
That's completely great; the level of detail and realism is lovely. :)

Voronwe

rikard
11-03-2007, 19:13
Not much new I'm affraid at the moment as some bad sculpting work has needed a serious removal and resculpting (axe based stuff) However this is the latest I know he looks exactly the same but I have added some spikes along the top of his head and neck crest and begun work on the other arm (only got the hand left now and then after that I can move on to his intercostals, obliques abs and a massive set of Pecs :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0447.jpg

75hastings69
11-03-2007, 20:21
This project is just amazing Rikard!!!

Azroth
11-03-2007, 23:34
It's just so goddamn amazing! Why can't you cast them? You'll make a bunch of money, I'm sure of it. Pretty please...? :)

hertz
12-03-2007, 09:25
Rikard: dont worry, perfection takes time. BTW, where do you live? I mean, just so that I can make a ninja-outfitted visit and relieve you of those sculpts, when you are done with them ;) :p

beefpizza
12-03-2007, 23:19
I'm glad the head and neck came out at the right size, I was worried about it, but it looks great!

torso777
13-03-2007, 04:12
Man I wish I had half the GS talent that you have. These Kroxies are seriously some of the best sculpted models i've ever seen. Loving that Nakai.

rikard
15-03-2007, 12:00
thanks guys for the support.
@Hertz no dice! :P

heres some more pictures, I have been finding it really hard recently to get the time to sculpt (mainly due to work) and have also had some resculpting to do and the other hand has proven to be rather difficult.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0454.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0455.jpg
Hope everyone likes, the tricky parts I find with sculpting is to get one arm to match up with another especially if the arms are at different poses as the muscles will change.

Jonahmaul
15-03-2007, 12:07
Like it?! I'd marry it if I could!! You are a genius with GS. The arms look great from that photo, could we see a front shot of it though please?! Can I ask what you you've used as a base for the GS (you seem to be building it over something from the looks of the legs?).

Azroth
15-03-2007, 15:25
It's awesome, and I mean that in the truest sense of the word. I feel awed when I see that. The greenstuff work is simply fantastic, and the muscles look superb.

Please, please cast it. Pretty please with sugar on top.

Cheers.

Shadow-Under-Rock
15-03-2007, 16:04
Judging from that picture,I come to the conclusion that the axe will be a bloody weapon of mass destruktion!

kyussinchains
15-03-2007, 21:46
awesome, truly fantastic, you could make some serious cash if you could get these nicely cast!

what kind of setup do you have for sculpting? specialist tools, or improvised stuff like needles and wire?

rikard
16-03-2007, 10:03
@Jonahmaul
Sure thing frontal photo of pecs/six pack/obliques/serratus anterior and intercostals coming in a few days. As for the grey stuff it's Apoxysculpt, I find its very usefull as a base for larger minis as it holds its shape and wany weight very well, whilst being quite light too.

@Azroth
How much sugar? :P

@Shadow-Under-Rock
You've hit the nail on the head ;)

@kyussinchains
For sculpting I use a side light as it means I can really speed up the drying time of Green stuff inbetween layers or get it to harden slightly before I use it. As for tools these are my most commonly used ones.
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/TPVSC/Sculpting%20tutorials/AUT_0433.jpg
Clay shapers are simply brilliant for any sculpting (except fine detail though)

rikard
17-03-2007, 09:11
Here's the latest and I am now finally able to post a frontal shot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0460.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0461.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0462.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0459.jpg

Some of you may notice that the pecs are wider and bulkier in different places, this is deliberate as his arms are not only in different positions but he is holding a massive great weapon in his right.

Arch-Traitor Horus
17-03-2007, 09:23
dam there nice:D

hertz
17-03-2007, 09:39
Oohh... shiny, updates!

his tummy looks i bit like mine, with less hair though ;)

beefpizza
17-03-2007, 17:17
damn, thats ******* awesome!

Leminy_Fresch
17-03-2007, 21:55
This is some of the most fantastic green stuff work I have yet seen.
Great work rikard.

Shadow-Under-Rock
17-03-2007, 22:19
Hwoa! Hes going to need some huge legs to hold that frame(like loking in a miror:p )

Khrangar
17-03-2007, 22:26
Wow, my jaw dropped with I saw the topmost pic. If you cast this I'd buy 1 or 6 and start a Lizardman army to honour him. You think I'm joking/flattering you, but I would!

Khrangar

Gonfrask
18-03-2007, 01:48
I know i repeat myself but...wonderfull work, perhaps GW must learn two or three things about sculpt

pox
18-03-2007, 06:45
once again, I am truly awed at your grasp of anatomy. every layer you add makes him look more and more real. very hard to make something fantastic look that way, most cheat by hiding it under detail. (its my #1 way to cheat when sculpting. cant get the shoulders to match up with the triceps and biceps? why, an over-the-shoulder sash aught to do the trick.)

I had studied skeletal anatomy quite a bit, but not a lot of muscle and tendon stuff.. not only have I stared at your handy guide a lot, but its inspired me to get THREE references on the subject matter. thanks for the wheel-barrow of inspiration.

rikard
18-03-2007, 23:15
thanks so much its good to know that other peopel liek what I'm doing as I have never been a great judge of my own painting/sculpts.

Here's my efforts for the tail, its based loosly on a dino tail (which is why there are thicker bits at the top and bottom) altough its still a WIP and requires scales, spikes, lumps and bumps but hopefully it gives you an idea of how things are going. I have also included a picture of the axe haft which is also still a major WIP.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0469.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0470.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0471.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0472.jpg

Pekel
18-03-2007, 23:26
The current GW Kroxigors are the models stopping me from playing Lizardmen. If you don't cast these amazing models you'll be tossing quite a bit of money out the window. I know casting would require a lot more work, but I'm sure it'd be worth it in the end.

kyussinchains
18-03-2007, 23:32
I'm loving the dude in the background too, he rules!

are you planning on putting a clubbed tail on them? if so remember to leave the middle free of plating so the tail can flex easily (I'm sure you would do anyway!)

Strelok
18-03-2007, 23:33
This is plain insanity. As for the clay shapers, I think I'll buy a few if my works looks anything like this as a result.

rikard
19-03-2007, 09:05
Yeah clay shapers are really good IMHO, I was originally advised to get a bullet tipped clay shaper for muscle work by Mark Tait when I was in Bristol and I was so happy with the results I got the other 4 too. I think the best part about them is that GS never sticks to them. Anyways as I can only post 4 pictures per post I have shifted the axe haft down to this post to save people having to click on links.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0473.jpg
I am still wondering a bit about the tail in terms of armour and jewelry designs so if anyones got any good pictures or any sketchs please feel free to psot them as I could use some ideas. I honestly hadn't thought about giving him a club tail but made it whip like as there is artwork and fluff about Kroxigors using their tails to act as counter balances for their Great weapons as well as helping with momentum IMHO a whip like tail also makes a better sculpt rather than a raptoid one which just sticks out straight.

As for casting possiblities the other Kroxigors I can't cast because they contain GW parts, so I would have to sculpt 3 from scratch (Altough I suppose this is something I could look into if all goes well with Nakai). As for casting Nakai, I'm going to wait until hes finished before I make any descisions. My next plan though after Nakai is to sculpt Lord Kroak based on his 5th edition artwork (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/kroak.jpg) and or a Slann which doesn't look like Marlin Brando or a hamster.

Knighty
19-03-2007, 09:12
one thing you may want to look into is varying your sculpting material. GS is good for general work, but is lacking around the sharpre areas (esp. the weapons)

something you may want to look into is "brown stuff" (available here (http://www.heresyminiatures.com/toolsandaccessories.htm) in the UK). It holds an edge a lot better than GS, though I recommend a mix of the two.

Also, you can vary your yellow/blue ratio to achieve different effects. More blue will hold detal better, while a yellow-heavy mix tends to look more rounded and organic. Bear in mind that changing the ratio will also change curing times (less yellow - faster curing)


One quesion I do have, what is the grey material you used as an armature to scult over? I looked back through a few pages but didn't notice it being mentioned.

rikard
19-03-2007, 09:21
I have some brown stuff kicking around somewhere and it will probably be making an appreance when I come on to the jewelry and armour. I use white milliput quite a bit as a base for weapons as it not only holds like brown stuff, but it files really well when dry so is brilliant for weapon, shields and armour bases.

As for the grey sculpting material I think I mentioned it but it not its called Apoxysculpt (http://www.gocreateworkshops.co.uk/index.asp?function=DISPLAYPRODUCT&productid=481) its very grainy and handles exactly like clay and can be watered down. its good for stonelike sculpts but is best left until very hard (about two hours or so) and doesn't hold detail anything like GS does. However it's very good for large armatures as it does not warp, can't be bent after drying and is strong enough to hold dramatic poses such as Nakai's right arm and axe.

Boss_Salvage
19-03-2007, 16:37
The Big N is looking superb Rik, really something else. The tail is fantastic in all of its dino-ness, and the axe is nasty big awesome :evilgrin:

Keep it up, this is wonderful stuff.

- Salvage

Mozzamanx
19-03-2007, 17:27
Lol, awesome, beats the crap out of the GW Nakai

http://uk.games-workshop.com/download/popup.htm?/convershunklinic/wh-nakai/images/painted.jpg

:rolleyes:

kyussinchains
19-03-2007, 20:11
that axe is simply phenomenal!!

I was thinking a clubbed tail would work twofold, it would help act as a counterbalance, and would give the kroxigor another offensive weapon (helping their role as indiscriminate killing machines!)

check out some pics of ankylosaurs for inspiration!

Merceus
20-03-2007, 21:04
AAAAAAH!!! I can't see the pics at the top of page 9!! WHY!?! I want to see all the awesomeness! Why can't I see them?

Jonahmaul
21-03-2007, 10:45
Lol, that GW version really is rubbish, it's a terrible paint job as well!

bram kuijpers
21-03-2007, 11:28
damn cant wait to see the feet geting done

rikard
22-03-2007, 23:05
WEll things are going well, I have attached him to a base (40mm) and he stands up perfectly without any trouble or falling over to one side (this made me really proud as the legs offer very little support at this stage of sculpt) I have begun work on his right leg with his quads, a couple of his adductors and TFL. The muscles on the legs may look quite bulky and short but this is because of his legs position which causes the muscles sculpted so far to shorten while his hamstrings (on the underside of the leg) will lengthen. I have also begun work on the spikes of his tail and the armour/decorations too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0475.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0474.jpg
His axe is coming along well and has only a few more bits needed and edges smoothed (working on some of the rear axe haft parts seperatly before attaching them) before its finished.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0476.jpg

Norsehawk
23-03-2007, 00:47
If you were to cast these, I definitely would buy em. and I don't even play fantasy... but they would make brilliant big muties for LATD now, just to get some stubbers on em.

Strelok
23-03-2007, 03:38
That small detail work gives me butterflies! Keep up the awesome work!

Warwolt the skaven
23-03-2007, 08:30
dude, you better make those buyable or else... dang! Such a waste!

Khrangar
24-03-2007, 00:29
I concur with Warwolt. I really like how this is shaping up.

Khrangar

Starks333
24-03-2007, 00:36
actually what you will find far easier for sculpting simple shapes and sharp edges is milliput mixed with greenstuff, miliput dries rock hard and with GS mixed in it shares a few of the properties, however this substance has more clay like properties which makes it easier to smooth, but makes it different than working with GS

hes looking good though ;)

Starks

rikard
24-03-2007, 15:36
Things took a good step forward and then went pare shaped :rolleyes: I sculpted one leg well IMO down to the ankle and then began work on the other one but due to a major flaw in the length and position of the armature leg it had to be removed. I have made a new armature leg and am letting it dry at the moment, but anyways I hope you all like the new leg.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0477.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0478.jpg

Merceus
24-03-2007, 15:41
aww man... shame about the leg... the finished (or nearly finished) one looks good... and judging by the rest of your stuff should be no problem to do the other one.

Jonahmaul
25-03-2007, 01:01
What more can I say Rikard? What more can I say?!

clarkdobbs112
25-03-2007, 03:26
Cast them cast them cast them cast them

hertz
26-03-2007, 00:23
Soon done? a wonderful job so far, Rickard, well done!

Warwolt the skaven
26-03-2007, 00:37
caaast! This is such extremly awfully kickapoo piece of art! You should uppdate the whole Lizzie range ^^

75hastings69
26-03-2007, 13:37
Amazing Rikard, just amazing!! If GW had made their LM like your sculpts I would have loads, as it is they didn't and I don't!!!

Really looking forward to seeing this finished. (then you should send it to Razza to be painted!!!!).

The Dark One
26-03-2007, 13:40
very nice
they are a lot better than the current gw ones

Gitt
26-03-2007, 16:11
It is surely an understatement to say that I and everyone else who has posted in this thread is in awe at your inspirational skills and ideas. Keep it up!

rikard
26-03-2007, 23:01
Thank you all for the encouraging shouts it gives you a good motivational kick in the pants like nothing else :p . Its been a while since I last posted up anything new (having all those problems with the second leg didn't help) I have now managed to get him standing upright and have started to sculpt the rear foot. It still need claws and additional skinfolds and scales but I should hopefully have both completed by tomorrow, more pictures by wednesday hopefully.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0480.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0479.jpg

BK XVIII
26-03-2007, 23:50
Theas Krox Are the best sculp i've ever seen

who is the Just started guy in the background of the pic above

Gonfrask
26-03-2007, 23:58
This is...huge!!!!!!!!

hertz
27-03-2007, 00:55
Holy damn!!!
Hero-sized lizard with an enormous axe!
jupp, this is casting material! you could for example, contact Hasslefree, I believe that they have a new project called "White Metal" that could allow for casting of that monster! (Id probably pay the 10 that it could cost for a copy in metal, and more if needed. )

Battle Brother
27-03-2007, 07:53
WOW! Simply amazing work! I would buy several if you decide to cast him! Absolutely the best work I have ever seen!!! Everything is superb! Keep going!

P.S. For your hands... there is a product called "Bag Balm." It's a medicated ointment used by farmers to help cure chapped cow's teats. It works wonders on hands during the winter!

Braad
27-03-2007, 08:25
Some question just popped in my mind...

How do they line up?

And then I'm mainly thinking about this latest piece with it's arms spread out.

plantagenet
27-03-2007, 10:18
Miniature looks great I just cant help feeling that in the pose he should have had his mouth open roaring his defiance at who ever his opponenet is- or should that be was.

75hastings69
27-03-2007, 10:31
Everything about this sculpt yells "cast me!!!", so how about it Rikard?

rikard
27-03-2007, 11:10
Some question just popped in my mind...

How do they line up?

And then I'm mainly thinking about this latest piece with it's arms spread out.

I deliberatly gave him a wide pose as if memory serves me correctly he cannot be joined by units as they see him as a holy being, it also helped to emphasis the point of him being very dangerous (aswell as strength 8 :D )

As for the closed mouth this was for two reasons, the first is that I wanted him to have more of an intellegance to him, an open mouth roaring seems a little too jurassic park to me. Second and most importantly however is a closed mouth as ten times quicker and easier to sculpt :p .

As for casting I won't deny that I'm considering it but this is only because of the feedback I've been getting when I started out I had no plans or intentions of casting but now if its not too difficult/expensive to sort out I think theres a good place in guernsey and even more importantly it may be cheaper too (no VAT for me! :D ) I'll let you all know as soon as I am able to find out.

Oh and the mini in the background, one is the odler Nakai I did which is taller and not as detailed as this one and the other is part of a Strigoi sculpt I began a while back and lost intrest in (may finish him at some point)

75hastings69
27-03-2007, 12:10
Well if you do get it cast Rikard I will take one (or two).

Boss_Salvage
27-03-2007, 15:21
I'd be in for one too - the axe, tail and head alone are money in the bank :D

Also, just seeing that skink character in your pics makes me want to break down and pick him up too. You know, for my 40k Chaos army :P

- Salvage

Tuna
27-03-2007, 16:17
Simply amazing :O

rikard
27-03-2007, 20:56
Well back to work tomorrow (BOO!) but heres my efforts for today I have finished sculpting both feet and it took a lot longer than I thought it would I also added some grass around each foot to help give his feet more width to help him stay balanced properly on the 40mm base.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0484.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0483.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0482.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0481.jpg

From here on out I need to work on scales for the back, jewerly and facial ornaments (like the current Saurus scar veterans and Old Bloods have) so if you have any designs/pictures/suggestions/anything that you think would help to make him look better please put them up in this thread.

I also have to finish work on the rear of the axe haft.

Braad
27-03-2007, 21:40
Hmmm... I re-read the first few pages, and now I know I somehow missed the "Nakai" part. I thought he was just another one the kroxigors, but it seems he's a bit more.

Anyway, keep up the good work!

Warwolt the skaven
27-03-2007, 22:02
teenage mutant ninja lizzies o_O

Jonahmaul
27-03-2007, 22:55
If you do cast this then I will certainly be ordering at least one from you. Maybe you should drop Felix (think that it's name) from Avatars of War an e-mail to ask him about casting costs & good places to cast? Have you finished the normal Korxigor yet? Maybe you could consider casting them as well.....

HiveTrygon
28-03-2007, 02:09
Very nice work, just stumbled in here. Be carefull with casting things to close to GW's IP, like the ax is very close to their weapons. They hunt artists down like you would not believe when it comes to things they think are close to their IP. They did it to me numerous times. I'm honestly amazed they have not done it to Felix yet for his avatar line. It's ashame as I would love to see these cast. Make a cast and then resculpt the weapon then a sellable cast and should be fine. ;) Then sell me one. :D

Jonahmaul
28-03-2007, 10:32
What's IP please? Assume something to do with GW images? Felix's models are obviously very similar to GW models (although much better!) & are designed to be characters in GW armies, dunno if the fact that he's set-up his business in France (think that's where it is?) makes a difference (would assume not with EU though).

sanctusmortis
28-03-2007, 10:49
IP = Intellectual Property. If he didn't cast them to make a profit, just for people who asked, he'd be OK I believe.

rikard
28-03-2007, 12:56
Thanks for the heads up, thats something I know now to avoid when I start with the designs of armour and decorations. The axe head should be ok I have used a lot of Incan and Aztec artwork for the patterns designs and inspiration, but its good to know either way, I'll have a good look into this and see what I can and can't get away with.

Jonahmaul
28-03-2007, 13:33
Unless you were directly ripping off their pictures I wouldn't have thought that they'd be able to prove IP? As Rikard said he's used Aztec & Inca patterns & walking lizards aren't an original GW idea (I can't think of any films/books off the top of my head but I'm sure there are some!). GW gets most of their ideas from other places so not sure how much of it they can claim is their IP?

the_raptor
28-03-2007, 14:04
IP = Intellectual Property. If he didn't cast them to make a profit, just for people who asked, he'd be OK I believe.

No that is not how it legally works. If he makes copies of anything that GW claims copyright over, then they have grounds to bring legal action against him. If he tried to sell these moulds as "Kroxigors for Warhammer Fantasy Battles" he would be in trouble, because that is pretty much blatantly admitting he "copied" from GW although indirectly (aka "a derivative work" ), and they would hit him with trademark infringement as well. If he sold them as "Monstrous Inca man-lizards for fantasy games", they would have much less of a case.

Of course GW Legal can just crush people for fun (the average person simply can't afford the cost of litigation), but they are unlikely to hit you for less than re-casting GW models. One of GW's ex-sculptors sells his self-made models, that are full of GW "imagery" (eg Dwarf slayer lord etc) with little trouble.

P.S. Technically you can't even print out the rules from the specialist games website for personal use. GW can be pretty strict.

Warwolt the skaven
28-03-2007, 14:49
Actually, Ive heard and its sounds pretty logic that as long as you sell the stuff theres not a single pieace a **** that GW can do against remolded miniatures. The only thing that actually is protected like this is music (as far as I know in sweden) and movies because of the great copying on this. And the goverment really just sees a guy that copies some toy factories well, toys.

clarkdobbs112
28-03-2007, 16:56
If you cost those krox, I'll be buying one of each for certain. In fact, if you opened an ebay store, you'd probably sell at least a few hundred units of each.

Azroth
28-03-2007, 19:15
I wouldn't worry very much about GW legal, as long as you don't call them Kroxigors. GW doesn't have the IP on Inka/Maya/Aztec imagery or big, walking lizards.

Cast them, and sell them. You will probably make a fair few bucks off of them. Just look at the business Felix P. (no, I won't try to spell his last name) has set up, he seems to be doing quite well with his Avatars of War line.

happy_doctor
28-03-2007, 20:18
cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast! cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast! cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!cast!

I'll buy 2...or 3...maybe 8if you cast the Kro..the giant lizards with enormous weapons that have nothing to do with GW property(thank god!! :D )

Jonahmaul
28-03-2007, 22:06
I think you should seriously consider casting or at least look into it & see if it's viable, you might possibly have to alter some stuff because someone did say about it being difficult to cast in one piece (sorry I can't remember who you were & can't be bothered to go back through the thread!) but that shouldn't be a problem for a man of your talent. Not sure how well they'd sell through ebay, just for the simple reason that you couldn't call them Kroxigor meaning they wouldn't show up on searches. Your best bet would be word of mouth & then setting up your own webby ala Felix!

HiveTrygon
28-03-2007, 22:13
I wouldn't worry very much about GW legal, as long as you don't call them Kroxigors. GW doesn't have the IP on Inka/Maya/Aztec imagery or big, walking lizards.

Cast them, and sell them. You will probably make a fair few bucks off of them. Just look at the business Felix P. (no, I won't try to spell his last name) has set up, he seems to be doing quite well with his Avatars of War line.

Untrue. I had a lawyer from GW UK basicaly shut down my ebay auctions on a regular date even though they were my own designs but were listed in GW sections of ebay! Hugo Pritchard was his name I believe. Trust me if they think you can be any bit competitve with them they will try and bully you down. I was making alien like stuff and they were saying it was tyranid and shutting me down. They will do the same thing with something that is remotely close to their IP. They even go as far as IP being conceptual, thus if something slightly reminds them of your work looking like theirs they are on you. They had HR Geiger do it to them for the tyranids and they fought but when someone does it to them they want blood. Please be very carefull, trust me I had to close my business a few years back because of them. The Lawyers and IP are out for blood. I would recommend making the axes seperate pieces and including the aztec ax but also making say a nordic rune ax. Picture it for sale with the nordic ax and mention it comes with 2 variant ax blades. You best bet. I feel the aztec+lizard is going to attract their attention. I dealt with them for over a year and they made it so tough for me to do a single thing.

Anyway, I want one so definately cast them but be carefull how you market and advertise them, as well as display them. If you get their attention it's all over they watch you constantly, if you lay low you will be ok. ;)

rikard
28-03-2007, 22:27
HT: Thanks I remember seeing a lot of your sculpts a while back and I can imagine why you had a lot of trouble with GW (awsome biotitans). I'll probably send you a PM or email closer to when hes complete as I'm sure I'll need as much help and advice as possible.

I spoke with Felix via email though it wasn't about casting it was more about criticsm and advice (he was very helpful and has drawn my attention to areas I really need practice more with)

The main thing I'm concentrating on at the moment is armour and decoration designs and was thinking of Incan and Aztec style designs rather than GW (for the obvious reasons) so if any of you have any good pictures for Aztec weaponry/armour/decorations please post them up.

Thanks

Jonahmaul
29-03-2007, 09:47
Another things that I remembered when I was thinking about this was something I read on another thread about forgeworld outsourcing their casts to another company. Apparently they don't do this anymore as GW has bought the equipment to cast their own resin kits but it does give the name of the company that used to do it for them. You could consider casting this in resin instead using this company? I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the company but if I come aross it then I'll edit this post (or if somebody else knows the name please post!).

Hideous Loon
30-03-2007, 11:46
I wonder one thing about this Nakai fellow. Does he have a lower jaw? Or is that one of the things that'll come along with the scales and so on?

Shadow-Under-Rock
30-03-2007, 15:37
To my eyes it looks like he has two upper jaws, because of the spiky bone bits that looks like teeth to me.

rikard
30-03-2007, 22:34
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0447.jpg
This should help clear things up a bit, ok its an old photo but you can see his teeth upper and lower jaw. He has his mouth closed but the teeth protrude over the edge.

EDIT: more to come soon

rikard
31-03-2007, 11:02
More updates and I have begun with some work on the decorations I will be able to smooth the edges out once it dries I alos have included 2 pictures of different scales that I'm thinking of using for Nakai so let me know whihc one you prefer or if you have some better suggestions/designs let me know.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0486.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0485.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0488.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0487.jpg

rikard
05-04-2007, 13:21
Been a while I know but I have now got a fair bit done (I haven't really started on the decorations yet as I am getting the scales and axe finished first.)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0492.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0491.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0490.jpg

75hastings69
05-04-2007, 13:53
Hazzaaaa! Updates on my favourite ever project log. Rikard that sculpt is looking just awesome!!! Do you do commision work?

You have to cast this bad boy, I don't think I could go on living if I didn't own one of these at some point!

It is just superb, every last detail so far is exactly what I imagine a Krox --- oooops, Giant Walking Aztec Lizard Man to look like!!!! Just brilliant.

Boss_Salvage
05-04-2007, 16:09
:D

Nice scale work, really fantastic with the different sizes of scale and such. The detail on the axe is superb too. This is some fabulous icing on an already splendid cake!

- Salvage

Gonfrask
05-04-2007, 22:34
Rikard: Can you do a tutorial about how you do the scales?
Or well, just tell how XD

Jonahmaul
06-04-2007, 02:18
I hate you Rikard, actually i'm just very jealous, your work is just amazing! Out of interest (and a reply to Hastings at same time!), this is a commision isn't it? How much do you charge for such a commision?

rikard
06-04-2007, 09:15
@Gonfrask
Yeah I'll try to get some WIPs on how I do it, its very easy.

@Jonahmaul, Hastings

It was originally a commission piece but the guy who wanted it got bored of waiting and so pulled out a few weeks ago (I sculpt first then collect cash before sending) its taken me just over 2 months to get this far and some people aren't very patient. A big problem of mine is I am a very slow sculptor and in full time employment so I don't get much time to sculpt and so I'm very hesitant on doing commission pieces. He was also offering about 100 but with the amount of time it was taking me I was thinking about bumping the price up.

More pictures to some soon and then I have another sculpt to start (none kroxigor this time)

rikard
08-04-2007, 19:04
Well the end for this project is now pretty much been reached I have finished the other Axe haft details as can be seen and I have given him a Loincloth (I know it doesn't look great but it's only the second one I have evr made so there's always room for progress. All I need to do now is let it harden slightly before sorting out any uneven edges.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0503.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0504.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0505.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0506.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v600/richiboy/AUT_0507.jpg

Khrangar
08-04-2007, 19:46
That's *******' amazing! I am in awe. Congratulations!

Khrangar

Luthien
08-04-2007, 20:59
sweet googamugga those are immense i love 'em i'd hapily pay 9-10 quid for one

75hastings69
08-04-2007, 21:13
OMG that is possibly the best sculpt I have EVER seen anyone do, dude you HAVE to cast this!!!!!!

Luthien
08-04-2007, 21:16
i totally agree with hastings on this one, get 'em done :D

mousekiller
09-04-2007, 00:46
Wow, this guy is really coming together. I can't believe all the details you are putting into it. I agree, you should cast it, if you can find a way to cast it without loosing all these wonderful details.

Jonahmaul
09-04-2007, 12:25
This is amazing Rikard, please look into trying to cast it as I would definately want one for my LM army. There doesn't look like there's anything wrong with the loincloth to me but if you think you can improve then go for it! You say this is the end of the project log but have you finished all 3 of the other Kroxigors yet? I thought you hadn't quite finished them before you started this commision?