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Yade
22-01-2007, 15:48
There was a game store in my area that was going out of busines so I went in there and looked around. I found several boxed sets of L5R miniatures and I bought them for 5 dollars each.

For those of you that don't know L5R is "Legends of the 5 Rings" and it is a Japanese historical miniatures setting. so I have:
75 Archers (10 different poses and characters)
100 Samurai warriors with 2 ganded katanas (5 different poses and characters)
50 sword warriors with shields (3 different poses and characters)
30 Cavalry usits, some archers and some swordsmen (inclusing characters)
22 Ninja style models with various weapons
22 mage or monk looking models.

and more...

My question is, whicha rmy in fantasy should I develop these guys to represent? I thought of using them as Empire, but I think they would make a real interesting wood elf army. Any suggections?

btw, all of the models are wearing the old traditional panelled armor, except eh mages monks and ninjas. and the models are exactly to scale with GW humans.

Krankenstein
22-01-2007, 16:04
Do they have mons (clan heraldry)?

Dosadi
22-01-2007, 16:19
High Elves.

Archers = HE archers
2 Handed katanas = Swordmasters of Hoeth
50 Sword & Shield Warriors = He Spearmen...you may have to flub this a bit.
Calvary would be a mix of Silver helms/dragon princes (depending on how skilled you wanted them) and the ones with bows could be Reavers.
The Ninjas? This is the only thing that would be difficult to figure out. the best representation would be to use them as Shadow Warriors, but I don't think they have bows (throwing stars with 30" range?). can HE hire Vespero's Vendetta as DoW, 'cause you could use your Ninjas for those.
the Monks are just mages.


Dosadi

edit: I just checked and HE can hire vespero's Vendetta, so they would be the best represnetation for Ninjas.

Arhalien
22-01-2007, 16:25
Or the monks culd maybe be used as phoenix guard - the guardians of the temples. Depends how they're armed, but 20 mages is a lot, even for elves :)

Galadrin
23-01-2007, 00:25
Lol, L5R is hardly a *historical* setting. I know you've already considered it, but to be honest, I'd probably use the new Empire list mixed with Dogs of War, which might gives you the following:

50 Archers = Empire Archers (ji-samurai with yumi in loose formation)
100 Greatweapon Samurai = Greatswords (Samurai with No-dachi and O-yoroi)
50 Samurai (with shields???) = Swordsmen (ji-samurai)
30 Cavalry = Dogs of War Light/Heavy Cavalry (mounted samurai)
22 Ninja = DoW Duellists with Throwing "Knives" (battle ninja)

The monks and shugenja could form some Yamabushi unit (wild, mountain-warriors) as Flagellants. The mages can also be used as Empire Wizard, but you would really have to only take Lore of Life (and maybe Lore of Fire, representing a specialised acolyte of a warlike temple).

Can you post a picture of these samurai with shield models? I am almost positive that AEG never released any such models. Maybe they are tessen (war fans)?

Galadrin
23-01-2007, 02:23
By the way, I actually made an entire conversion list of the Dogs of War army list to work with an army from Nippon. If you want, I will post it.

cerealkiller195
23-01-2007, 03:15
lucky lucky man! how much did the whole lot cost?

paulsk
23-01-2007, 05:58
I also have these minis and have considered an army. The suggestion I got at the time was to use Ravening Hordes high elves. Just try to use Lightarmor+shield as samurai "heavy armor" and you are good to go.

bluesky322
23-01-2007, 06:03
are they to fantasy scale because that would be awsome i would love to see some pics too

Bregalad
23-01-2007, 09:29
Try the Cathay Codex:


Okay, so I've finally finished talking with the devs and I have the go-ahead. Behold, warhammer armies: cathay. This isn't just a list. This is a book.

http://www.esnips.com/doc/17d6c704-fd8f-4c22-9a45-52c8946cf958/Warhammer-Armies:-Cathay.pdf


I'd like to thank everyone who helped out on this project, which has taken almost five years from first idea to completion. Especial thanks to the members of this forum who helped out- rabid bunny, malika, juddski, bubble ghost, balloon dog, anachristica, Taven and others who I no doubt forget but were just as helpful. ESPECIAL ESPECIAL thanks to juddski for his amazing work in illustrating most of the book.

I'd like to now point out that yes, this is a fantastical representation of the ENTIRE EAST. Not just cathay, this list was designed to create both nippon and steppe lists with minor variations, which forced the inclusion of some entries. I was also careful to include the ability to create more 'historical' lists. You can do it easily enough if you want, but for those who want the crazy ass stuff, it's there in force. Also remember that this is a representation of CATHAY, not china or japan. Cathay, culturally and thematically, is a melange of cultures as far apart as the middle east and korea, not just china, just like every other human army. The aim was to create a list that could satisfy both the history buffs and the anime fans at opposite ends of the spectrum, and in that end we have more or less succeeded, remember, if you don't like it, you don't have to take it...


I'd also like to point out that this list has undergone over a hundred playtest games against many armies over the years and is pretty darn balanced, fairer than many of the official lists IMHO. The advantage of online publication is we can get your feedback and update the list constantly, so please, tell me what you think on here, via PM, or via email at thereisnosaurus@gmail.com, hatemail included. I'd also be deeply greatful if you could inform me if you spot any inconsistencies caused by the new rules, as this will save me a year or so of re-proofreading.


I will be endeavouring to get this list a published spot on warseer where it is permanently available and continue to improve upon it as people play games. I have, as I said, been talking with the devs a bit on this, and I'm fairly sure there will be no official cathay for a while. However, given how impressed they were with this, I'd say it's a safe bet to say you won't find a better list for cathay for a long, long time.

NightHaunter86
23-01-2007, 15:17
You could wait till they release the rules for Clan War;)
Or...
I would use them as Empire as well. You could do something like Dave Taylor, but I can't remeber what army list he used.

Galadrin
23-01-2007, 17:51
Clan War was released years ago and has since gone out of print. Did you mean re-release? I highly doubt AEG would ever re-release Clan War, as it could never be a serious contender with Games Workshop around and the venture would cost the company a lot of money. Great game though : (

By the way, did I mention that my list is tournament legal? It's a clever rehashing of the Dogs of War list, so you can play it with or without your opponent's permission.

paulsk
23-01-2007, 23:50
are they to fantasy scale because that would be awsome i would love to see some pics too

Yes, Clan War minis are 28mm and pretty perfectly to scale. The only difference is that all infantry were designed to mount on 25mm bases in Clan War, so some of the poses do rank up will when compressed into 20mm Warhammer formations.

We have pic sign! (http://www.clanwar.com/images/)