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Spartan-001: Master Chief
21-02-2007, 02:40
what would be the best fleet to start with? I was thinking eldar.

Chimera
21-02-2007, 03:02
To be honest... in order to get a good grounding in the game, your best bet is to play a few Cruiser Clash missions (see rulebook) which will give you an idea of how everything works.

Follow on from that by picking the fleet that you think:

Most suits your playing style
Looks coolest

fracas
21-02-2007, 03:30
i would say get the original starter box and play either chaos or imperial
these are plastic chassis for cruisers and the box comes with additional dice and markers helpful to the game

Slartibartfast
21-02-2007, 04:19
I would suggest starting with the Imperial or Chaos fleet. This is because the are the most forgiving fleets, greatest variety, and most flexiable fleets. Play these for a while, get the basics of the rules down. Then when you understand how the game works branch out into the other fleets. The reason for this is because the other fleets modify the rules in some way to make them unique.

The Eldar fleet bend quite a few of the movement rules, as well as some of the basic combat rules. These items make it harder for a beginner to get a grasp on things to begin with, in my opinon. I played for several years with my Imperial fleet before I branched out into a Necron fleet. I felt this made for a better understanding of the 2nd fleet fought and flew.

After you have a few games under your belt with the basic fleets moving on to the Xenos fleets should make it much more of an enjoyable game for you. Then you can "rule the stars";)

ReDavide
21-02-2007, 07:25
Your first hardcore 1500-point fully-painted fleet should be the one whose playing style fits you best.

But playing eldar will not teach you all the rules of the game - watching and laughing at your slow opponents just isn't as effective I don't think. BFG eldar bend the rules far more than 40k eldar do.

So for your first game or two, just use the cruisers out of the box set. They're really fast to assemble and there's no need to paint them.

orangesm
21-02-2007, 13:14
Define best?

Are you looking for a fleet that is fun to paint and play? A fleet that crushes your opponents?

But the first goal should be learning the rules. Like people have said it is not horribly expensive to do this, especially if you can get hold of BFG Boxset (Ebay). If you already have friends who play ask if you can learn the rules using one of their fleets.

silent requiem
21-02-2007, 15:53
I am also trying to decide what fleet to start. I think the "go with what fits your playstyle" advice is good, and it certainly worked for me in 40k.

However, it is quite clear that there is not always a direct crossover (style wise) between 40k and BFG. Could someone perhaps summarise the different playstyles so that Spartan and I can make a more informed decision?

-Silent Requiem

Spartan-001: Master Chief
21-02-2007, 15:57
i was looking for a fleet thats fun to play and paint to be honest

IncrediSteve
21-02-2007, 17:02
Well all the BFG fleets are fun.

As far as modeling goes Imperial Navy and Chaos have can be afforded easiest [I got two 3000 point fleets for ~$400us total] and are the two classic fleets, using more traditional Naval tactics and good old broadsides blazing away, carrier groups, and all that goodness. I love all the fleets in BFG, but the Imperials and Chaos still tie for the top slots.

Eldar Corsairs are exceedingly fragile but hard to catch. All their ships pretty much get to move, shoot, and then move again, quite fast depending on their facing towards the sun as their ships are solar powered. One anology I saw by *thinks redavide, but can't remember exactly* is that "With Eldar it feels like their playing a completely different game", as they zip all around and nearly ignore a lot of weapons. Definately very cool looking, all pewter fleet is a little hard on wallet and maintenance.

Dark Eldar are kind of like Eldar but not. Their ships break fewer rules and move normally, but are still absurdly fast. They have normal armor and sturdier ships than the Eldar, all their weapons are prow mounted like the Eldar, and their fightercraft are just as nasty. They have extra abilities for boarding and such and nifty assault moduals that can be launched from some ships as a kind of "uber" boarding hit and run attack. The downside is that they have only two classes of ships, that you choose the weapons for, and the stock GW models are a bit crumby.

Orks have short ranged heavy gunz and typical weapon batteries, heavy armor on the front and weaker armor on the sides and rear. Thier ships are a bit slow but they can always use the all ahead full special order [speed boost moving straight ahead] without a leadership test as they always love to hit that big red button. Another all metal fleet, their ships are a tad ugly, but Orky no less, and Orks would be easiest to convert as most of their ships are flying junk with guns and an engine anyhow. Another nifty thing is how many of thier ships have random strength weapons, you have to roll a dice to see how powerful the weapon batteries or torpedo salvos are, thanks to unreliable orky technology, which is always fun. Some of the escorts can pump out surprising firepower this way.

Tau are an ok fleet, very ordinance heavy and not very strong in the weapon battery and "lance" department. Their ships are a little slow and short ranged as well. Mostly use the ForgeWorld fleet, as the models are phenominal, whether you use the Imperial Armor 3 rules or counts as from the Armada book.

Necrons have the lowest ship count, really nasty weapons and armor, and are pretty fast as well. Possibly one of the cheaper sides to collect.

Tyranids can be made very well from bitz, so if you have Tyranids in 40k you can make a BFG fleet for almost free if you buy a bag of bases. Otherwise the GW models are pretty decent, though the swarmy nature of the nids would make them pretty pricey to collect that way.

ReDavide
21-02-2007, 20:58
Here's a short summary of chaos, necron, tau, and nid playstyles I did a few weeks ago:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1269413&postcount=3

Spartan-001: Master Chief
22-02-2007, 01:06
After reading the summary of the different fleets i really like the sound of the nid fleet. Basiclly i can convert (which i like doing) the models to my taste and have some big ships. It would be a change to do somehting that dose not include the name Imperial in it. Thanks ReDavide.

IncrediSteve
22-02-2007, 02:20
For some ideas [or flat out plans you can feel free to steal] have a peek at my project log, in my signature, page three. Shows some of my Scratch built 'Nids.

Spartan-001: Master Chief
23-02-2007, 00:01
anyone got any spare nids sprues or bits they wouls loike to send me :D

horizon
26-02-2007, 12:42
Imperial Navy or Chaos are best to learn.

Radical Inquisitor
27-02-2007, 23:24
IMO Chaos is the most powerful fleet if this is what you are looking for. the ships are also quite nice looking.