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Hunt77
14-04-2007, 00:35
I am currently working on an army which incorporates models with both 20mm and 25mm bases. Can anyone think of a reason I could not mount models which belong on 20mm bases on 25mm bases instead? I plan on using this army in official tournaments so being rules legal is a must.

lparigi34
14-04-2007, 00:41
20x20 or 25x25 are both legal bases for any infanrty.

Btw. What is the base size for the new Skarnik model?

NakedFisherman
14-04-2007, 00:45
Models need to be mounted on the proper base size. Orcs are on 25mm, Goblins are on 20mm. There aren't exceptions to this, because you'll mess up combat, ranges, template hits, etc.

Cragspyder
14-04-2007, 05:44
Put them on the correct base sizes. It is rather important.

The one thing you might do is make your big ranked units with 5 20 mm X 20 mm bases stuck together for the back ranks, and then 1-4 loose models to represent casualties. When you get 5 killed, remove a big base. Though the big base still has to be 20mm X 100mm to be the correct size for goblins.

Otherwise, models need to be based on the right sized bases, In this case, your goblins would have a bigger frontage then normal, would take up more space on the table, and would get killed faster because you'd be able to fit more enemy models in base-to-base contact, but the goblins would still have the same stats.

AFAIK they include the base size in the calculation of the points cost of the model.

Festus
14-04-2007, 08:55
20x20 or 25x25 are both legal bases for any infanrty.But each model only has one fixed size: Hordes and T4 usually have 25mm,closely huddled and T3 usually 20mmm, but there are exceptions.


Btw. What is the base size for the new Skarnik model?
40x60mm, replacing 6 Gobbos (Yes, I know T10, I know... ;) )

Festus

Gorbad Ironclaw
14-04-2007, 11:07
I am currently working on an army which incorporates models with both 20mm and 25mm bases. Can anyone think of a reason I could not mount models which belong on 20mm bases on 25mm bases instead? I plan on using this army in official tournaments so being rules legal is a must.

Yup, base sizes are fixed in Warhammer, and unlike 40k, there isn't a catch all rule that says it must be this size or large. It's suppose to be the size it's listed as.


20x20 or 25x25 are both legal bases for any infanrty.

Both are infantry bases, but you can't mix and match as you choice. Some infantry goes on 20mm, some on 25mm. It's not really a choice.

Da Boyzz
14-04-2007, 13:20
what size base are chaos furies? and what size a chaos sorceror on foot?

Festus
14-04-2007, 13:25
25mm on both accounts. Square

Festus

Sanjuro
16-04-2007, 12:15
Is there a 7th ed reference sheet for base sizes? They did away with the 6th ed one, right? I can't find it, at least.

I don't have the 7th ed book, but I hope they included the reference sheet in the main rule book. If not, that's very strange.

lparigi34
16-04-2007, 14:47
Yes. It is included in the BRB

Festus
16-04-2007, 15:00
Where ?

lparigi34
16-04-2007, 15:16
Right Festus, I thought Sanjuro was asking for the chart in page 71 of the BRB, but is no reference to Base Sizes but to Unit Strength.

IMO, Despite being a change in the main set of rules, most of the armybooks remain the same, and the rules designers claimed once that the purpose of make them compatible was 95%? achieved, why are base sizes going to change? I believe that the 6th edition reference table is still applicable or said in a different manner, if they release the 7th ed reference table, except for the inclusion of newer units (i.e. Skarnik) or elimmination of those that ceased to exist. there will be no changes at all.

Tutore
16-04-2007, 15:37
There is a file I actually use for base size, I found it in this forum and was somewhere on GWīs site. But it refers to 6th edition obviously.

To answer your question, I wonīt play against someone using wrong bases. There are many reasons. Example: if I mount orcs on 20x20 bases (which would be difficult...), Iīll have a unit which is far more dangerous than the normal one: you can have more orcs in combat, thus multiplying attacks. Same says for cavalry: they have 25mmx50 bases; so if you charge a unit of infantry 20x20 no more than 6 models can fight. If they had 20x20 bases, they could attack with 7 models! Thus every unit has his base. As I said elsewhere, I donīt mind, in friendly games, to play against an opponent who uses saurus instead of khorngors, since they have the same base size; I donīt mind if they donīt have all the models and use empty bases (if they are only a couple...). But I wonīt ever let use wrong bases.

knightwire
16-04-2007, 21:04
Does anyone have the link to the 6th edition file by any chance? (In case google doesn't turn it up.)

lparigi34
16-04-2007, 21:20
Anyone feel free to email me at lparigi34@hotmail.com (it is LPARIGI, with L at the beginning, not capital i), just state in the title (to avoid deleteing it for spam) you are from warseer and the reference you want, and I'll gladly e-mail it. As I don't have any link for this.

Festus
16-04-2007, 21:44
Have this, folks:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/warhammer/base-chart/assets/base-chart.pdf

Sanjuro
17-04-2007, 00:20
Thank you, Festus! Been looking for that for ages!

lparigi34
17-04-2007, 02:01
Thanks Fiend... I will not answer e-mails then!