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Blackrabbit33
02-08-2005, 20:32
are they any rules out there to say you can't shoot your own troops?

Festus
02-08-2005, 20:49
Yes, and they hold true for every army but Skaven.

Kensai X
02-08-2005, 21:29
Although, it would also make sense for Chaos Dwarfs to shoot into combat involving Hobbos and Slaves...

Gotreksbrother
02-08-2005, 21:37
Or for Orcs to shoot into combat involving Goblins...Or for Ogres to shoot into combat involving Gnoblars ;)

Sylass
02-08-2005, 21:44
Ogres can shoot the Bangstick (was that the correct name of it?) through Gnoblar units. :)

Blackrabbit33
02-08-2005, 22:10
sorry i mean shoot at them in the open not in combat

Izram
03-08-2005, 01:13
I.E. you want them to panic and run?

See voluntary Ld tests under psychology :).

But as for shooting them, I don;t have my book on me but im pretty sure they say target an 'enemy' or 'enemy' models within range and LOS or somthing. I don't think they use a generic wording such as 'target'.

And as for skaven being able to shoot at their own troops, I also think this is disallowed. The rule is for shooting at enemies in contact with friendlies iirc.

Alco Engineer
03-08-2005, 01:33
I'm not so sure. I think skaven can target their own units, especially slaves as they are pretty below the belt. can some1 with the Warhammer armies clarify??

barbarella
03-08-2005, 03:43
I recall reading that night goblins can shoot fanatics, when you normally can't shoot your own troops, which would suggest that you can't :)

Blackrabbit33
03-08-2005, 07:34
humm cheers guys

peteratwar
03-08-2005, 08:03
Seems like a bit of reading of rule/army books is required.

The basic answer is no. There can be exceptions for specific armies.

A war-machine can go off course when firing & hit your troops but then you should train your gunners better! :)

gortexgunnerson
03-08-2005, 09:25
If you really wanted to I'm sure their's nothing against "misguessing" with warmachines such as cannon/stone throwers etc but doesn't really seem vert sporting

Tarax
05-08-2005, 12:57
I wouldn't mind if my opponent shot at his own troops.

But basically you can't shoot at your own troops.

Exceptions are:
-Skaven shooting at units in close combat
-Orcs and Goblins (of all sorts) can shoot at Fanatics

Atrahasis
05-08-2005, 13:06
-Skaven shooting at units in close combat


Not really.
A Skaven player still has to shoot at enemy, he just doesn't care if friendlies are in combat with that enemy. The enemy are still the target, and it is they who must be in range and LOS.

Gazak Blacktoof
07-08-2005, 00:02
-Orcs and Goblins (of all sorts) can shoot at Fanatics


Not that I use squigs all that much but we've extended this to include loose squigs too This is because they can seriously muck up all your movement and once loose are just as uncontrollable as fanatics and dangerous to your own troops.

Harky
07-08-2005, 19:07
The "Life is cheap" rule for the Skaven allows shooting in CC, and the hits get randomised between friendly and enemy units. You still need LOS to the enemy unit IIRC.

peteratwar
08-08-2005, 08:17
Gazak your rule makes life much easier for you BUT I would think that it goes against the intent of the rule and the spirit of Warhammer where muck-ups are intended if you use odd/dangerous troops!!!