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Murag
30-04-2007, 13:09
It is time; time for two lazy gits to finally produce a fully painted force for both the 40k and the WHFB systems. While this is the overall goal, we both wish to develop our painting and modelling skills to a higher level. At the same time we also both realize, that our own determination for finishing this project might be “wavering” at times, and that is why we seek aid from the members of Warseer. What we thus kindly ask of you is to give constructive criticism and a few pointers here and there (and a supporting pat on the back is also most welcome).

For introductions of the dark individuals involved in this unholy ritual follow these links:

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81817
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81339

Thanks in advance and onwards to the introduction of the armies (which I presume you'll find more interesting than reading about us).

;)

I will be playing two very different armies for the respective systems. For 40k I have chosen the Space Wolves 13th Company. The reasons behind this choice is rather simple; first of all I am not so keen on assembling and painting bigger models (I have had horrible experiences with this in the past), and secondly I like the idea of a small elite force operating behind enemy lines. I also enjoy the background of the 13th Company.

For WHFB I have as mentioned above tried to find a rather different force. To make it different it A) had to be rather weak in close-combat, B) certainly no elite fighting force and C) had to be something of a horde army. My choice fell consequently naturally on a Vampire Counts army led by Necromancers (for now at least). I have always loved the undead and have had many wet dreams of painting Heinrich Kemmler.
*looks around shifty-eyed*


Space Wolves 13th Company force:


6 Storm Claws 126
Power Fist 15
Power Weapon 10
Wolf Guard 10
Mark of the Wulfen 20
Power Weapon 10
Plasma Pistol 10
Total 201

8 Grey Slayers 168
Melta Gun 10
Plasma Gun 10
Wolf Guard 10
Total 198

Army total 399


And the Vampire Counts army:


Necromancer 65
Nightmare with barding 12
Extra Level 35
Book of Arkhan 25
Power Stone 25
Total 162

16 Skeletons 128
Full Command 25
Light Armour 32
Total 185

10 Ghouls 80
Ghast 10
Total 90

5 Dire Wolves 50
Doom Wolf 10
Total 60

Army total 497

The first few models have been/are being painted, so pictures are not too far away in the distance.

Onwards to Bastow…

Bastow
30-04-2007, 13:18
My 40k project is an imperial guard army with an urban color scheme. I'm going for grey cloth and black armor pieces. The first unit up is a box of kasrkin, from which I have done a test mini, that I am fairly pleased with. My technique could really use some improvement, so feel free to post your comments, suggestions and tips. As for WHFB I am still undecided. Pictures will be up, when I get some batteries for my camera (hopefully later today).

This is the 40k army list I am trying to paint up first:

Senior officer 55, power weapon 5, carapace armor 5, plasma pistol 10
total: 66
Staff: autocannon 15; meltagun 10; veteran 6 bolt pistol ccw 2
total hq: 99

9 grenadiers and veteran sergeant 106; flamer 6, grenade launcher 8
total: 120

Squad I
Guardsmen 60; missile launcher 15; grenade launcher 8, veteran sergeant 6 ccw and bolt pistol 1
total: 88

Squad II
Guardsmen 60; heavy bolter 10; grenade launcher 8; veteran sergeant 6 ccw and bolt pistol 1
total: 83

399

the varks
30-04-2007, 22:54
this is looking very good, looking forward to seeing the 13th company and the guard.

Marco

Murag
01-05-2007, 10:10
Thanks for the feedback.

I have decided to keep my Vampire Counts army mostly in metal pieces, and furthermore to mainly use the Confrontation miniature range. So far I have bought the following boxes:

http://www.asgaard-games.dk/Graphics/Products/2938.jpg

http://www.asgaard-games.dk/Graphics/Products/2939.jpg

The first zombie has been painted and will be shown as soon as we get the camera working.

>_>

Bastow
03-05-2007, 20:49
Finally some pictures:

Marine by Murag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Marine.jpg

Grenadiers by Bastow:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Grenadiers.jpg

Zombie by Murag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Zombie.jpg

Hoping for any kind of feedback.

;)

The Judge
03-05-2007, 21:35
The zombie is awesome. The Marine is classy, and the Grenadiers ain't too chabby either.

I love Rackham models.

Murag
04-05-2007, 01:06
Thanks a lot.

The picture quality isn't very good sadly, but should give a general idea about how the minis look.

Bastow
08-05-2007, 16:44
Not much interest, eh?

Well, new minis have been completed and the pictures will be added later today/tonight.

Boss_Salvage
08-05-2007, 19:32
I like the marine a lot, very nice execution of a pleasingly simple scheme. Also, mad cred for using Rackham undead, and that first zombie looks the business. The grenadiers aren't bad either, though some of the details could be 'tightened down' a bit - like the eagle on their helmets, for instance.

- Salvage

Ninners
08-05-2007, 19:41
I have always loved the undead and have had many wet dreams of painting Heinrich Kemmler.

Ok, that worries me a bit...

Anyway, the painting is very nice. The weathering on the space wolf is good and the vampire models are awesome. The IG are also good, i often struggle to paint black but hes done it very well.

Looking forward to more pics (espicially the top vampire model)

Crube
08-05-2007, 19:49
Murag- I like the painting on both your models. The Marine is very tidily done, espescially, and I like the muddy effect. My only point on the marine would be the grey looks a little flat. Maybe some more highlighting on the extreme edges of the armour might lift it a tad (just using minimal paint, and the side of your brush)

The Zombie appears very nicely painted, with some lovely highlights and shading on the cloak thingy. The guts are nice, but I feel the fleshy parts are a bit too 'alive' for my tastes. Perhaps a thin wash of purple or green ink. (or maybe both)

The only real issue I have is the choice of model. I'm just not a fan of Rackham's Zombies...not at all - but that's just a personal opinion - you obviously like them - and the painting is good.

Bastow - Looking good. However, the highlighting on the armour appears a little heavy. If you're going for a grey colour, then you need to build up the colour more gradually, maybe base coat with Codex grey (or whatever grey you're using) with a spot of black in, then go for the highlights on the edge. Although some more extreme edge highlights would certainly lift it.

I agree that some of the details need to be a bit more defined. Try painting a line of thined down black wash around the details, as a form of black lining, to make then stand out.

Otherwise, lovely stuff gentlemen - I look forawrd to seeing much more,,,,


Now paint dammit :D

Bastow
08-05-2007, 20:52
Oh, thanks for the many nice replies.

Here is the latest batch of models:

Another marine from Murag:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Marine-1.jpg

Bastow's force so far:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Grenadiers-1.jpg

And the obligatory backpack shot:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Backs.jpg

More pointers on our painting are very welcome.

Murag
08-05-2007, 23:30
Thanks for the feedback.

Was starting to fear that noone besides "da judge" was interested in our troubles. Well, as for the comments directed at me...


I like the marine a lot, very nice execution of a pleasingly simple scheme. Also, mad cred for using Rackham undead, and that first zombie looks the business.

Thank you.

Yes, I am very excited about that range, but though I adore the minis themselves, they have been cursed with some horrible joints, that I have had many problems gluing together properly.


Ok, that worries me a bit...

Anyway, the painting is very nice. The weathering on the space wolf is good and the vampire models are awesome.

Looking forward to more pics (espicially the top vampire model)

Pftt, I am sure I am not the only one.

*looks around hopefully... then discovers that he really was the only one*

Then I am sure you will be happy to hear that the next mini I will paint will be another zombie. And thanks for your feedback.

:)


Murag- I like the painting on both your models. The Marine is very tidily done, espescially, and I like the muddy effect. My only point on the marine would be the grey looks a little flat. Maybe some more highlighting on the extreme edges of the armour might lift it a tad (just using minimal paint, and the side of your brush)

The Zombie appears very nicely painted, with some lovely highlights and shading on the cloak thingy. The guts are nice, but I feel the fleshy parts are a bit too 'alive' for my tastes. Perhaps a thin wash of purple or green ink. (or maybe both)

The only real issue I have is the choice of model. I'm just not a fan of Rackham's Zombies...not at all - but that's just a personal opinion - you obviously like them - and the painting is good.

Damn, you struck a sore spot. Yes, I am still learning how to properly highlight the edges on power armour. For some odd reason it hasn't turned out too well up to this point, but I of course blame that cursed Fortress Grey.

;)

Your advice for the skin of the zombie will be looked into as I do see your point. Yeah, it might need to be "sickened" up a bit.

Hope to get more feedback as the thread evolves and thanks again to you all.

EDIT:

Oh, and one little question...

I am currently working on "designs" for the bases of my marines. I have glued on some static grass, but it looks too green and healthy (eww!). Thus I would very much like some tips to make it look more withered (sp?). I heard that a light drybrush of Bleached Bone might do the trick - anyone tried that or have a better solution?

Bastow
09-05-2007, 00:17
Thanks for the advice Salvage and Crube, I will definitely try to to "sharpen" the highlights up, as soon as my motor skills allow me to do so >_>. At the moment I am just rejoicing that half the squad is finished, it's been roughly a year since I last got this far with a unit *is ashamed*.

Also, yay avatar at last!

Weregerbil
09-05-2007, 22:23
Hey guys im like the stuff here so far.

Murag drybrushing the static grass works but make sure that it is glued on right or it just ends badly and you might want to try graveyard earth instead of bleached bone.

Bastow I would suggest trying a very thin black wash over the gray and the black of your minis, the gray to tie the highlights together and the black to dull it down a bit(unless you wanted it to be gloss that is) its a bit to shiney I feel but that could just be me.

Murag
09-05-2007, 23:34
Murag drybrushing the static grass works but make sure that it is glued on right or it just ends badly and you might want to try graveyard earth instead of bleached bone.

I've used PVA glue for it - strong enough or does it need super glue?

Will try will Graveyard Earth first then. Thanks for the advice.

Weregerbil
09-05-2007, 23:47
Pva works just let it dry overnight.

Cpt_NinjaPants
09-05-2007, 23:52
Not a fan of the Ig's red guns, but other then that everything is looking great.

Bastow
22-05-2007, 00:09
Here is a lil' update from me.

I have more or less finished the kasrkin now, they could do with some "crisping" up, but for now I am just gonna try to get some more minis painted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/grenadierfull.jpg


Here is a test I did for the basic guardsmen, he still needs some more work, but you get an idea of what the scheme is like. The shading on the cloth is too dark, so I am most likely going to go for some kind of brown instead of the current color.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/testman.jpg

As a side note: I still have not decided what to do with the eagles, that is why I am leaving them white for the moment being.

C&C is naturally more than welcome.

Bastow
30-05-2007, 19:02
Murag posting from Bastow's account...

Here are some more of my minis:

Marine:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Marine1.jpg

Same Marine from a different angle:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Marine2.jpg

Skeleton Warrior:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/mnemonics/Skellie.jpg

Notes:

I tried following the advice given so far by doing some more extreme highlights on the marine. Hope you like the changes. I also decided on a style of base I like. Any comments?

Regarding the Skeleton Warrior... The image for this mini is really really bad for some reason. Hopefully we can get a better picture up at another point in time.

Enjoy and please throw a comment if you feel like it.

Murag
18-08-2007, 18:44
/cast resurrection

*bump*

Edited the pictures above to be less dark, and hopefully we will soon have more coming up.

TheDarkArg
19-08-2007, 07:07
Couple of comments regarding painting styles. The marines look solid, nice clean paint job with a classic color scheme. The guard are a bit lopsided, you have two complimentary colors (the black/grey armor & cloth) followed by three distinct spot colors that dont compliment or correlate well. I'd consider swapping the bright blue lens for a red similar to the guns or toning down the brightness on the guns/power cords. That might be mitigated by basing the models consistently. Given the camo and armor colors an urban or CoD base would probably help the guard look more consistent color wise.

Keep up the good work and its always great to see new (painted) armies in the works.

Cheers.