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Havock
11-05-2007, 18:42
Okay, about two years ago, I picked up the =][= rulebook for 5 euro's, it was on sale, GW shipped too many books (they had a crapload of them), so I thought "well, it has nice fluff and pictures *buy*

Anyway, got bored at work yesterday and built a first character, I thought that it doesn't neccesarily have to be a running campaign, but that the system could also work for squad level action, I suppose I'll use 40k mini's, perhaps with ranged halving or even "= cm.

Anyway; veteran sergeant *name pending*
WS BS S T I WP SG NV LD
76 80 61 60 44 48 53 75 72

Equipment:
Bolt carbine with range finder
Laspistol
Power knife
a few grenades, probably smoke and flashbang-thingy to conceal/get away.

armour: possibly carapace on the torso and flak on the limbs to have freedom of movement (fluff-wise)

It's not a true sniper, more an experienced guy planning his attacks and picking the best spots.

I'll think of fluff, though I might change him to my almost near-legendary IG grenadier vet. sarge (power weapon & master crafted plasma pistol), the bloke killed chaplains, some death company, a hive tyrant, a dracon,...need I go on?)

My knowledge of nq. is too little to even say if he's too good, just right or as survivable as a kittne on a slaaneshy daemon world.

vampking111
11-05-2007, 21:03
Anyway; veteran sergeant *name pending*
WS BS S T I WP SG NV LD
76 80 61 60 44 48 53 75 72

Equipment:
Bolt carbine with range finder
Laspistol
Power knife
a few grenades, probably smoke and flashbang-thingy to conceal/get away.

armour: possibly carapace on the torso and flak on the limbs to have freedom of movement (fluff-wise)


I've played in afew Inq games, all of them played at 28mm scale, but thats another dicussion.

And this character seems pretty balanced, apart form two things, one the WS and BS seem a little high, even for a guard vet, at WS 76, you are basically a sword master almost. Drop it to about 65-70. May not seem much, but in Inq it really is.
Same for BS, 76 isnt too bad, if you drop the WS, have him as jack of all trades, master of none. The idea for inquisitor is to have a vagly believalbe character. I had one who was a crak shot, and arbirte sniper, so he had BS 85, but he could not fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

The second thing that sticks out is the bolt carbine. I've never actually seen these used at all yet, and probably becuase no guardsman would ever pick one up. Ammo is scarce and they jam easily IIRC. But then, if people you play with allow this, then go for it. Though i would drop the laspistol and take maybe a stubgun or revolver, try something new in Inq.





My knowledge of inq. is too little to even say if he's too good, just right or as survivable as a kitten on a slaaneshy daemon world.

I love this and it is sooooo sigged!!Havock

inq.serge
11-05-2007, 21:58
Anyway; veteran sergeant *name pending*
WS BS S T I WP SG NV LD
76 80 61 60 44 48 53 75 72


Lower with around 10 to 20 in most stats, (Except I, Sg and possibly St/T)
And for emperors sake, Higher his Wp, he's a veteran, make him at least a bit more stubborn!



Equipment:
Bolt carbine with range finder
Laspistol
Power knife
a few grenades, probably smoke and flashbang-thingy to conceal/get away.


Bolt carbine, why? (and mostly: How?)
Powerknife? To shiney.



armour: possibly carapace on the torso and flak on the limbs to have freedom of movement (fluff-wise)


Have you seen the Storm Trooper article on the specialist-games website? It's on Inq Downloads (Articles)?



I'll think of fluff, though I might change him to my almost near-legendary IG grenadier vet. sarge (power weapon & master crafted plasma pistol), the bloke killed chaplains, some death company, a hive tyrant, a dracon,...need I go on?)


Why would he fight chaplains and Blood Angels!? (Sure, the Ravenwing hates my Inq.Lord (Lord Pilos) and have fought him once, but they attacked him while he was fighting som Tau genestealer cults, and Lord Pilos had luck that he got help from a wulfen unit and some space wolves and a guy in black-dark green power armour covered in robes and walking around with long gray hair and a bolt pistol and a plasma pistol. Lord Pilos still don't know why the DA attacked him.) The point of the story is that Lord Pilos is an Inq, and therefore can have troubles with marines without being a heretic. A storm trooper is not an Inq. Nor is a Guardsman.

Sarison
12-05-2007, 01:26
I concur with serge's stat adjustment.

bolt carbine sounds cool, although i really want to know where he found it. ammo might not be a problem, especially if he "knows a guy" that can find some for him. possible fluff and motivational tools there. i think it could definately happen.

Laspistol doesn't need more justification, many guard carry service pistols. in my campaign, many people keep weapons on them when they are on base, they dont run around everywhere fully kitted out and ready to fight.

one of the problems i think you might run into is the fact that he is Guard. most guard dont get released from service unless they die (Only in death does duty end), they get dishonourably discharged (aka commissar tool), they finally retire with a gift planet and settlement rrights on a planet (rare), they desert (dangerous), or a few other cases, none of which come to mind at the moment.

i really like the idea of Veteran Gurad, i really do, so much so that i have run into the problem of "What the Feth is he doing here?" too many times to count. if he is not part of a regiment, then he's part of a special detechment ie. bodyguard, kill team, recon unit. and usually , there are more people waiting in the wings in all of those situations.

play as an inquisitor, there are so many more options on that path, plus, you can always conscript your could-be-legendary guard vet for back up.

Havock
12-05-2007, 14:44
Why[/U] would he fight chaplains and Blood Angels!?

Because it would be a "port" from 40k, in which everyone fights space marines on a regular basis :p

As said, I am not diving nose-deep into storylining, maybe just drag some friends into it and use it for small scale skirmishes to get the hang of the rules.

The Bolt Carbine... How he got it?
Well, one morning, he woke up with a letter from the toothfairy and...

No, I had a bit of a "well, what to give him", question:
The laspistol was an obvious choice, rolled a dice if it would be an autopistol or a laspistol, it's just his trusty sidearm, and you can always cook meals with it if necessary.

The power knife was somethign a bit more exotic, something he "found" on the battlefield, know the guard codex? the pic with the stormtrooper sergeant who has a power sabre he shouldn't have? :p

And the bolt carbine, well, I didn't want him have a full blown special weapon or something (that's the job of someone else), a lasgun is too "basic", so is an autogun, although I have been toying with the idea of an autogun + underslung shotgun.

The bolt carbine was something I could see a guardsmen feasibly have, it's not as heavy as a full blown bolter, and the semi-auto firing seems fluffy with a controlled brain.
But how did he get it, yeah, how do officers get wargear?
Maybe make him a lieutenant or something?

inq.serge
12-05-2007, 15:24
Storm troopers sergeants usaly do have power weapons.

And officers get weapons from the armoury.

Bolt weapon seems to be a bit to marine-ish For an IG to have access to, and IG don't pick upp things they find on the battlefield, and keep them eventheless. Especialy xenos gear, which may Will get you killed.

The impotant thing in inq is not what is good and has good stats and killyness, but what's cool and follows the background, but mostly what is cool. It's about cool characters doing cool stuff, not über-charcters in reflective power armour with all highly advanced/advanced bionic parts possible and with 6 assault cannons on each soulder and a lascanon in their hands power armour with frostblades and stormbolters blasting critters in bits with their mind.

Lord Inquisitor
13-05-2007, 00:06
Storm troopers sergeants usaly do have power weapons.
Usually in 40K. They're 5 points! Much better to say that Storm Troopers may be issued with power weapons - most probably as a reward for extremely distinguished service (just as with other imperial guard officers).


Bolt weapon seems to be a bit to marine-ish For an IG to have access to, and IG don't pick upp things they find on the battlefield, and keep them eventheless. Especialy xenos gear, which may Will get you killed.
IG don't pick up things off the battlefield or use Xenos gear? Someone ought to tell Yarrick that.

But Serge is right about the background.

If you want a decent response for your Inquisitor character - give us some background, not stats. Who is he? Why is he not with his regiment? How has he got dragged into the shadowy world of the Inquisition? What are his flaws?

As for stats, they're okay. You don't need to reduce them if you don't want to, just realise that he's an extraordinarily gifted fighter. Still, his relatively sane Initiative and mental stats make up for the fact that Rambo might be given a run for his money by this guy.

Catferret
13-05-2007, 10:34
Carbines are smaller versions of rifles. Easier tio carry and lighter. A Bol;t Carbine follows the same principle. Surely all the bolters in the Guard Codex are going to be Carbines so a human could actually lift one! A Guardsman would look at a Marine bolter and cry!

Stick with the Carbine, it makes plenty sense to me. Same with the Laspistol.

A Guard Veteran can easily be your main character. Just say the Inquisitor he is working for is busy and you have been assigned your mission already.

precinctomega
16-05-2007, 09:20
Why not mock up a model of this guy - in 28mm if you must - and play a few games? Give the scenarios some skeleton background and you'll begin to piece together a story for him, as well as learning the rules and getting a feel for whether his stats are right, or his equipment too exotic.

I'm sure you can find at least one other person in your regular gaming circle to give it a go.

Check out my sig and go to the FAQ for more hints and tips on getting started with INQ - and look out for Dark Magenta, coming soon!

R.

Havock
31-05-2007, 20:23
After reading the ciaphas cain novels (well, actually, im digging into "traitor's hand" now) I think I have found the perfect IG team.

Cain, Jurgen, this guy (Ill get some fluff) and an erm... meatshield for the glorious commissar.

That also solves the problem of "what is the guard doign out there"
- it's Cain, of course he has to run into trouble.

Sarison
02-06-2007, 18:33
Never read the Cain series, but if that is an acceptable explaination, then your golden in my book.

Havock
02-06-2007, 22:25
Then read them.

You'll love his laid-back attitude, especially compared to hardline commissars :p