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And
12-05-2007, 10:24
So! its time for me to take up a big challenge and redo my whole army.

Im tired of the bases and some of the painted models, so i'll try putting more efford to it now! The bases were made of GW gravel and grass cludges from a railway toyshop.. i removed the grass and glued more gravel on.. the snow patches remains, showing here:
left: what i want them to look like, right: how they looked before.
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3426/p1030326vl1.jpg

I'll start by showing you what i have already managed to finish!

here goes:

Some monsters:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3349/p1030324rp8.jpg

and the characters:
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9485/p1030319oo4.jpg

Here is a unit of khorngors im finishing soon. It will consist of 20 models, whereof 8 is not painted yet.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5287/p1030316gy8.jpg

(sadly i can only post 4 pics at a time, so the rest will come up later.)
so this is basically what has been done so far.
My list of progress is as follows:

BSB wargor
2*6 warhounds
2 chariots
12 gors, 8 ungors
5 gors,5 ungors
5 gors, 5 ungors

more pics will follow! thanks for looking

regards. AND

Zodiac
12-05-2007, 11:13
Woah! nice army! I like the giant, and the shamans...

Can I get some more pictures of those please?!

And
12-05-2007, 11:17
thank you

sure you can! here goes! comments are verywelcome!

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7990/p1030320ey2.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2845/p1030322hf9.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8356/p1030325tg1.jpg

glad you like them :)

Aflo
12-05-2007, 11:23
Sweet. I really like the robed shaman and the freehand on the giant :) Your going to hate me for pointing this out (:evilgrin:), but watch out for those mould lines, especially down the centre of the other shaman's head.
Regards
Aflo (Adam)

Zodiac
12-05-2007, 11:34
Sweet. I really like the robed shaman and the freehand on the giant :)

I agree. Very nice figures.

Ninners
12-05-2007, 11:51
Very nice work, the converted shamans are very cool.

I thought the chaos symbol on the giant was a shadow from another piece it was so straight! Now i realise you did it, great job :D

keep up the good work

75hastings69
12-05-2007, 11:59
Those 2 shamans are fantastic, but you have left really obvious mold lines on them (centre of face on one, horns on the other), now I'm not preaching here as I am pretty bad for this myself, but you have obviously put a lot of effort into those minis, just that bit more and remove those mold lines and they will be fantastic!! What models are the 2 shamans based on? any chance of sharing how you did them?

And
12-05-2007, 12:53
hi all.. thanks for the positive comments! i agree with the big mould line on the shamans forehead! the picture picks it much more out that IRL.. i have never seen it my self :P

Of course i'll share :)

The robed shaman is made of this model:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=73292/17&orignav=301116
I bought this model for my mortal army before i turned to the beasts, and noticed that he had hooves (PERFECT!). I cut off the horns and replaced them with regular beast horns. Then i cut of the front face of a gor and glued it into the hood on the helmet. I pinned a clip(?) into the top of the sword making a staff.

The other shaman is just pure fantasy. I cut off a Gor body and glued it atop a high elf lower torsoe(the archer-one, sitting down), from which I had remove the legs and replaced them with Gor hooves :)

Saulot
13-05-2007, 07:58
Wow, great job on cnverting your shamans. Really great poses. Keep it up! :)

mrtn
13-05-2007, 11:51
I agree with the other comments, both that it's looking good (nice skintones!) and that you should beware the mold lines. I see one on the left biceps of the giant, btw.

Aflo
13-05-2007, 16:41
I see one on the left biceps of the giant, btw.

It kinda looks like a vein :p

janos
13-05-2007, 18:39
Very nice, but I kinda liked the grass. It is a bit neony but I guess with a wash of darker green and some drybrushing afterwards it would look perfect! Howdya do the snow?

Cheers
Jaybles

And
13-05-2007, 19:57
with a wash of darker green and some drybrushing afterwards it would look perfect!

thats a good idea! didnt thought about that. heh.. but ill stick to the snow, as the green doesnt fit the bleached bone clothes(which im going to change for another colour)

the snow is from GW :)

torso777
14-05-2007, 01:05
Very sweet shamans, big ups to the tiny christmas tree on the beast lord's base.

Anardakil
14-05-2007, 14:38
Very nice. I really like the giant and cloaked shaman.

And
17-05-2007, 09:09
next update!

i've now come up with an idea of how i want my army to look.
im changing style, and now painting my beasts less detailed, yet still good looking(IMO). i dont want to spend too much time on the army, and the new method is going great!

Here are som pics of what i've finished:

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3395/p1030379xd4.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8320/p1030382km4.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6866/p1030380mh1.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6941/p1030384ec1.jpg

hope you like them! More coming up! Next will be some more Gors and Ungors as well as two chariots very soon1

regards. AND

And
19-05-2007, 08:39
bump. leave a comment :)

whitemagikmarker
19-05-2007, 09:32
wow love the flesh tones, wish i could do flesh like that. the bases look fantastic, the leaves on the ground look so cool. looking forward to more chaos goodness from ya

And
19-05-2007, 09:49
thank you :) im kinda proud of the bases, as the models look much more united then before :) damn im missing some chariots.
just a quick question:

what would be best to field in 2000 undivided force

20 khorngors with magic banner and muisican
or
10 khorngors with musician

?

And
29-05-2007, 19:20
here is some pics of my convertet wargor/beastlord..

he still needs to get fixed with GS, and a paintjob..
if you have any ideas of how i should make the torsoe fit the lower part of the body better, PLEASE tell me.

regards. AND

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/4125/p1030504lt5.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/559/p1030507gi9.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6444/p1030505xk4.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7486/p1030506qv7.jpg

Zodiac
29-05-2007, 20:47
You'll have to use some greenstuff, really.

Here's how it goes:

1: First, you put on a thick layer of green stuff, so you have the correct shape, do not do details yet! Just the shape, thats the most important part of this step

Let it dry for around 1 hour.

2: Now what you do is try to sculpt hairs over the body, going down untill you reach his knees. Do this carefully, then you will make it look like a model, otherwise it will look like a greenstuff job.
You get it?! :p ( cause I don't ) :P

Now let it dry for another half an hour.

It is now hard enough to try and reshape some errors that you did, and wll not stick to your skin anymore.

REMEMBER: sculpt with wet hands, and sculpting tools.. this will make the job alot easier, and makes errors less frequent.

EDIT: If you do not like sculpting, think you're bad at it.. or have another reason not to have a go at sculpting, use shields from other races to stick to his body. The new black orc sprues have a nice shield on them, you can use that for the body armor if you think it suits him. Black orcs and beastmen are both savage creatures, so it wont look "out of place".

Good luck!

And
29-05-2007, 21:01
thank you for the tip :) though i've used green stuff for some time now :P

yet i didnt know i should wait an hour for it to become harder... why is this needed?

its funny you mention shields, cause i've just added more details to the model, u.a. a shield from the dwarf quarrellers, and made a pike pointing out from it. also added a skull hanging from the big shield :)

i'll post pics again, when i've got some GS :)

thanks again

tzeentchgiant
29-05-2007, 22:27
yet i didnt know i should wait an hour for it to become harder... why is this needed?It allows the GS to harden a bit and lose a lot of the unwanted sticking power. This is invaluable if you're just using a 50/50 mix blue and yellow, otherwise you'll find it very difficult to mark light indentations, and as best you try it'll probably stick to your sculpting tool.

Anyways, 20 minutes is normally enough to sit it for, I find leaving it for an hour kills my drive to work :p.

EDIT: Very nice work in this thread, spending a bit more time on mini preparation would certainly be good, nigh imperative to achieving what you're certainly capable of creating. Overall I'm liking the poses and dynamic of all the models you've done so far, the army looks to have a very nice narrative in the way all the models are posed :).

TG

And
31-05-2007, 07:18
thank you very much :)

i've been painting more lately and have now finished:

1 wargor
Beastherd (18)
10 khorngors
6 warhounds
3 minos
2 tuskgor chariots

which means i soon can field 1000 solid points :D

pics of this small army well come up soon.. keep commenting please :)

regards. AND

And
02-06-2007, 17:10
UPDATE!!! finally i've managed to take some pictures.. all from the list above has now been painted plus an ambushing herd and one more dog.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1107/p1030537fj9.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2323/p1030538zd6.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6141/p1030539mt3.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2455/p1030530fw7.jpg

And
02-06-2007, 17:10
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/4393/p1030531kf9.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3952/p1030532kc6.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/2698/p1030533pv8.jpg
http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7929/p1030535au3.jpg

And
02-06-2007, 17:14
and the last one

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7003/p1030536lv1.jpg

now my 1K army is done and i now need to finish:

wargor, eventually a bsb
2 * bray shamans, need to convert the others more. The staff of the kneeling shaman will be replaced by a magic fireball
a beastherd of 10 models
another beastherd at 18 models
4 dragon ogres, converted from dragon ogres and ironguts.
5 more khorngors
maybe 6 furies

the giant is already done, as you know :)

pls comment

mrtn
03-06-2007, 10:30
Damn you're a fast painter! Faster than me, at least. :p

MaxORK
03-06-2007, 21:04
Looking good, you have a strong theme with a simple (Yet affective) Colour scheme, something I seem incapable off!

I like the Giant biting off the head btw! Good touch! :evilgrin:

VoicelessFlu
04-06-2007, 04:45
Really like your color scheme and bases too. Looking foreword to seeing the rest of the army.

And
04-06-2007, 11:16
thank you for you comments :)

next im going to weiter-convert my kneeling bray shaman.

i dont like his staff and weapon. I'll give ham a small wand made of a clip and green stuff, adding af hand held diamond on top, instead of his axe. im thinking of something like the oculus from Diablo 2.. if you know it ;)

the old staff will be removed and replaced by a hand with a fireball! :)

do some of you know a guide how to sculpt wood on wires? making it look like bark and wood?

regards And

And
04-06-2007, 17:52
finally! im starting on my dragon ogres. these will be done before my shaman.

im still waiting for 3 dragon ogres getting shipped, but heres the first one:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9799/p1030584ue1.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1549/p1030586fo8.jpg

it will get painted very soon.

regards And

Eniac
04-06-2007, 18:15
Ahhhh! Great! YOu make me want to collect another beastman army! I may just do it!

And
05-06-2007, 18:36
my first dragon ogre has been done:

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1130/p1030589oq5.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6155/p1030587gn5.jpg
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2079/p1030590bd0.jpg

and with paint:

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6992/p1030593lk7.jpg

comments are very welcome!

And
09-06-2007, 14:37
I've been redoing my shaman, so heres a little guide with pics on how to make an orb. It will act as bray staff!

*i've been using brown stuff! really much better than green stuff for details!*

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/767/p1030602zr1.jpg

here i rolled a linie of brown stuff to tie around the clip:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/553/p1030603qp3.jpg


http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8503/p1030604zi0.jpg

next will be smoothing it out, making it look like wood:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3545/p1030607ql6.jpg

And
09-06-2007, 14:38
the final pic:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1793/p1030608xi0.jpg

pls comment :), the head of the orb is a bit from what i think is an old skaven banner pole.. not sure though.

Eniac
09-06-2007, 15:17
Awesome stuff, that dragon ogre looks menacing! Much better than the official GW ones.

And I really like the pallette of colours that you have used, they look very mean and feral.

And
13-06-2007, 16:01
finally i recieved my dragon ogres and am now capable of finishing them!!

Heres the last three conversions:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/189/p1030619oy9.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3856/p1030618lb8.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3193/p1030617au4.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7931/p1030616lz6.jpg

they are getting painting atm, so stay tuned! comments are very welcome!

regards And