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de Selby
16-05-2007, 18:17
I like these project log thingies, they seem fun.

This month I have been mostly buying tau. I'm going to try and document my building and painting here,

edit: This is the last tau pic in the log (some more on Ammobunker). The rest of the log is necrons, nids, marines and other random articles as I paint them. Page to the end to find out what I'm working on now.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036009.jpg
end edit.

edit 3: this is now my general log. You can see how I finished off the tau in my log over on ammobunker (link in sig), or you can page to the end to see what I'm working on now. Nids, Necs and more.
end edit.

I've started with the following wippies:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030051.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030050.jpg


The firewarrior is my test scheme that I selected because it looks futuristic (similar to the Medusa v scheme but with the red swapped for green, exactly as with my Vostroyans). I'm going to rationalise it by calling it snow camo; the bases are just painted white for now to indicate this, but I'll do a proper job eventually. The whole model needs tidying up to be tabletop ready (note that the camera flash has exposed the usually-hidden bit of the chest behind the gun, exposing the fact that it isn't painted properly...) and I've forgotten the antenna for his helmet.

The broadside has actually been in my bits box for some time; I got him second hand for 7 and had to disassemble him, strip the parts and rebuild the right shoulder joint with green stuff. The backpack cooling unit has been cut away, swapped over and inverted to give him more height, and the railguns flipped to match the orientation of Hammerhead railguns. The flexible double-pinned joint is concealed with a sleeve made from the bendy bit of a drinking straw, and I advise anyone who tries copying or improving this pattern to do it differently for the sake of your sanity... there are many things wrong with this model.
The paintjob is spray black and drybrush boltgun metal (how I start all my walkers), plus a bit of colour as an experiment. I want my broadside to look like a walking tank, and I decided not to put the usual white layer under the coloured areas to keep the colours dull. I'm not exactly sure where I'm going with this, he needs more thought.

I've got plenty more stuff in the works, and you'll probably see more of it before I finish these two. If I get really stuck then some of my many figures from other armies will begin making guest appearances.

Comments, ideas? Anyone got a good method for snow bases?

schoolcormorant
16-05-2007, 18:27
I like these project log thingies, they seem fun.


thats the best opening to a log ever :D

for snow bases, i hear, snow flock, white glue and water painted on looks good.

i like the scheme, keep it up mate :)

SC

Your Evil Twin
16-05-2007, 18:56
I also like the sceme, never much liked etalics on tau but uv pulled it off nicly especialy the gold on the fire wariors shoulder pad!

Keep it up!

Your Evil Twin

de Selby
17-05-2007, 13:39
Right; last night's progress

(actually I'm cheating, these guys were already assembled and primed)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030064.jpg

I'm painting the bases in quite a warm colour for now, and the snow will go over the top in patches.
The general method for batch painting firewarriors is to basecoat the entire model in green (the result looks oddly like it came out of a Cornflakes packet, and reminds me of playing with coloured plastic Space Hulk figures), then add a grey basecoat for the armour and a couple of layers of skull white on top. Starting from green-all-over ensures that the recesses are all covered from the start, which is essential with multipart figs. I learned this with my marines over the years. The whole procedure should be pretty quick, so I won't be exhausted when it comes to detailing and tidying up.


SC: yeah, if I'd been in charge of writing the American Declaration of Independence it would have begun "There are these things, y'know like truths, which seem pretty obvious to me..." I will see if I can get some snow flock at the weekend, cheers.

YET: thanks. It's just not 40k if there isn't some gold trim about the place...

de Selby
18-05-2007, 13:40
Anybody there?

Another model ready assembled, and painted last night (I'm trying to pace myself so I can make regular interesting updates for the first few weeks).
This time, my interpretation of the hardy perennial XV8 with plasma, missiles and multitracker.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030072.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030068.jpg

Obviously I need to base it and probably I should apply some actual paint to the back of the model, which is mostly gunmetal. I can't decide what to do with the jetpack, I'm thinking of adding midnight blue on black to the scheme, which gives a sort of subtle purple colour. Might look good alongside the green and brown, or might not. I switched to blue for the lenses, as the red wasn't working.

Hopefully this gives a better idea of what I'm aiming for with the suits. The white ties them to the firewarriors. I don't want to add too much white to the broadside, but I may give him that vertical stripe as it makes the model look taller ;) . After the fact, I realised I seem to heading towards the colours of Spikyjames's Mentor marines. This may be a subconscious attempt to channel his painting skills, I dunno :)

Kraal_Lord_Of_Blood
18-05-2007, 13:53
O.O love them colours there dude.. Ya know, they look a bit "imperial" :D (not as in the empire of man, but just plainly imperial as in "we is da empire of tau")

de Selby
18-05-2007, 14:18
Thanks Kraal. I want my tau to look like he came to kick ass and chew cud, and he's all out of cud*

More seriously, they should look as mean as possible while preserving the clean lines of the original design. So no severed heads etc.

* are tau ruminants? Who knows? Where am I going with this?

de Selby
21-05-2007, 13:29
A weekend's progress; I've done the firewarriors, added some white to the broadside and painted a tank-hunting XV8. I'm holding fore on the bases as I'm starting to think that if I'm really going to do snow I need to start from an earthy bluey-greeny-browny grey colour; the orangey brown looks too much like desert to put snow on top of.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030076.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030077.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030075.jpg

And a group shot showing the completed firewarriors.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030079.jpg

I didn't want to trigger the horizontal scrollbar of doom; more group shots are here:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030080.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030078.jpg

Marty D
21-05-2007, 14:41
[QUOTE=de Selby;1563956]
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030064.jpg
QUOTE]

do you undercoat your models? it kinda looks like that!

tasty broadside conversion

schoolcormorant
21-05-2007, 14:48
i really, really like the underslung weapons, thats something i like to do, tried it on THIS (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/schoolcormorant/Tau/S3700007.jpg) lad and HERE (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/schoolcormorant/Tau/S3700004.jpg) too. i'll be doing it again, it looks better than just slapping it on the side of his arm :)
sweet stuff, the only thing i could suggest is spend more time on mouldlines.

SC

de Selby
21-05-2007, 14:52
tasty broadside conversion
Thanks.


do you undercoat your models? it kinda looks like that!


Not sure what you're getting at (?), yes: the infantry are sprayed white. The green goes on top of that, then the grey goes over the armour, then the white goes over the grey.

edit: overlap.

i really, really like the underslung weapons, thats something i like to do, tried it on THIS (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/schoolcormorant/Tau/S3700007.jpg) lad and HERE (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k26/schoolcormorant/Tau/S3700004.jpg) too. i'll be doing it again, it looks better than just slapping it on the side of his arm :)
sweet stuff, the only thing i could suggest is spend more time on mouldlines.

SC

More time on mold lines! MORE!? :eek:
Which ones are particularly noticeable? The jetpacks were very problematic; drybrushing brings out in exquisite detail the extensive gap filling and where I've left the line that runs through the 'screw head' on each side. Any others are just what I've missed due to laziness/blindness.

I like your dynamic suits. I'd already noticed that underslung weapons leave room for a shield generator on the arm, which does look hella cool. The only weapon I think does look good when wrist mounted is the plasma; but I suppose it would be useful to be able to swap out weapons for games (now impossible).

de Selby
22-05-2007, 13:32
Astute Shas'Os will have noticed that so far I have one HS, 2 elites and a single minimum sized troops squad to offer. That can mean only one thing: Kroot!

This kroot is sneaking up on a hapless guardsman from another unfinished army. Sneaky peeky!!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030084.jpg
The skin is shadow grey with two highlights and a midnight blue wash to try and tie it all together. Hopefully I'll get smoother as I paint more. I forgot to photo the back of the model, so you can't see the extra gear he's carrying around. I love the extras on the Kroot sprue. :)

jasevx
22-05-2007, 13:37
nice skin tones, i do like the kroot models!

de Selby
23-05-2007, 17:14
Cheers jase.

This kroot is attempting to finesse a Vostroyan Firstborn of the St Trinian's World expeditionary force...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030088.jpg

no update tomorrow.

de Selby
25-05-2007, 13:44
"I know they're around here somewhere..."

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030089.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030098.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030100.jpg

Two more kroot. Trying to do one per day is good for discipline.

de Selby
28-05-2007, 15:21
I got a little bored of kroot this weekend and tried something different. These are my oldest tau models; I bought them shortly after they first came out and tried for a 'hot coals' colour scheme because I thought that the 'fire caste' should look fiery. I didn't like the result and dropped the idea.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030104.jpg
I've now begun repainting them and I've also built another crisis suit. This guy will be acting Shas'el until I buy a commander suit. This time, you can see that I've tried to add a hint of fieriness with a simple black and white freehand, which I think is nicer. I'll try and finish all these models tonight.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030107.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030109.jpg
I did my damnedest to remove as much in the way of mold lines as possible. :angel:

de Selby
29-05-2007, 14:50
I did some more on the crisis and pathfinder models, as promised. My camera flash is really forgiving to my whites (I need to do more work on them; I hadn't initially realised how sensitive a smooth white is to the *exact* consistency of the paint) but makes the other colours look patchier than in real life.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030110.jpg
Plus another kroot. He is tackling an old chaos havoc, which is probably a bad idea because a) the traitor marine is a thousand year old veteran on the long war and b) I haven't really painted his face very well yet. I want to put beady black eyes on all my kroot.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030112.jpg

schoolcormorant
29-05-2007, 15:22
that crisis suit is you're best yet IMO. well done :)

love the shield marking

SC

de Selby
30-05-2007, 13:30
:) Hopefully my crisis suits will get better as I get more experienced working with them (and as I add more higher-ranking tau). I have some slightly more ambitious conversions in mind, but I need to buy more models as I'm starting to run out...

Another kroot; the tables are turned!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030117.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030115.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030116.jpg

This page must take forever to load. I think I might replace the first picture in the thread to try and catch people's interest easier.

Also: I've just discovered that the image limit includes smilies. How bizaare.

de Selby
31-05-2007, 14:57
Run away!!!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030118.jpg

de Selby
01-06-2007, 14:14
Looks like meat's back on the menu!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030125.jpg
Ok, so maybe I haven't really painted enough kroot to bring down the red terror. However the box didn't contain enough sprues so I have run out for now.
Army shot:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030124.jpg
Maybe I really will base them this weekend...

de Selby
01-06-2007, 14:14
Right, here's another WIP.

An extended campaign on the winter world of Vaughan has posed unique technical challenges for the earth caste. Intermittent supply drops have increased the importance of recovering and refitting systems that would ordinarily have been abandoned or recycled by the tau, including the weapons systems of destroyed battlesuits. In a notable example of tau ingenuity, portable plasma rifles have been issued to elite tau troops.

The significantly reduced power supply makes the weapon slow to fire and decreases the operating temperature, resulting in reduced armour penetration. However, greater stability of the plasma cycle increases the effective range of these weapons

Many two-tau teams of shas'la with sniper training have now been issued with these heavily modified plasma rifles, and are commonly attached to pathfinder teams.

*stats as rail rifle*

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030122.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030121.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030119.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030120.jpg

Currently superglued and blu-tacked so I can take him apart.

This sniper is not an actual pathfinder as such, so I can rationalise the different armour pattern. I decided to modify the helmet shape by simply sticking his target lock onto the front. The idea is that it unclips when not in use, and consequently is not quite so unwieldy as it might otherwise be. I think I need to run some kind of power cable from the backpack to the gun itself, any ideas?

C&C welcome.

dark stalker
01-06-2007, 14:23
kool minis and the white looks great.....lol your krot are the same colour as my ones

schoolcormorant
01-06-2007, 14:26
looks a little bit like the railgun from quakeIII love it :)

SC

de Selby
01-06-2007, 14:37
:) All my game worlds are made of resin, plastic and white metal, so I'm not familiar with the Quake universe. Got a pic? It might help solve some niggling design issues.


kool minis and the white looks great.....lol your krot are the same colour as my ones

Convergent evolution? :D

de Selby
04-06-2007, 13:50
First of all, a big thankyou to UK mail order who have supplied me with some missing sprues, despite the depredations of Royal bloody Mail. They are the best.

Second of all, my tau had a white weekend. I finally made it to the local model railway shop and discovered that snow flock comes in huge tubs for 8 each (!). I said "&*$ that for a game of soldiers" and proceeded to Sainsburys, where I bought a pot of bicarbonate of soda for roughly 5% of the cost (ie about 40p). After some experimentation I was able to create fairly convincing snow from bicarb, white glue and water. One major issue is how disturbingly edible it looks when it's mixed up (like icing sugar), but I resisted temptation.

So, my tau are now based. I repainted all the bases to shadow grey, dirtied up with flesh wash. Snow is blobbed over the top with my heroic all-fighting all-painting all-purpose tank brush (an old brush intended for detailing skirting boards with, I think). It looks good, IMO, just a little bit.. melted. Maybe I'll put another layer on when I next do some basing.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030133.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030132.jpg

In addition, I've converted up a pathfinder leader from fire warrior parts. I thought, they look very similar, how hard can it be? Much scraping later I had the body stripped down to a more-or-less pathfinder pattern. I didn't even attempt the helmet, but I added extra gear to make him look like a vet. The main problem was the markerlight attachment, which I think I will have to re-do.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030128.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030129.jpg

de Selby
05-06-2007, 13:54
I'm thinking of adding this guy to my pathfinder squad, I figure they could use a kroot tracker and it would emphasize the tau talent for cooperation/assimilation. I've given him extra armour, a custom pulse carbine and a hook hand, and I'll just use him as an ordinary pathfinder model.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030137.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030138.jpg
As you can see from this pic I need to re-pose him a bit, he's taken on rather an alarming lean.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030139.jpg

I've been thinking about why I'm enjoying building these tau so much. One reason is that trying to keep up with this log/diary is making me finish things and work more efficiently, so I'm seeing results.

I've also figured out that the suits remind me of nothing so much as transformers (the eighties toys and comic book series, rather than the new MB explosion-fest). I am now trying to work out ways to make my Shas-O look like Shockwave.

de Selby
06-06-2007, 13:40
Another conversion: ejected battlesuit pilot. I think I've seen a very similar job on the GW site somewhere. The kneeling leg piece is the most obvious place to start. I wish there was a similar bit in the cadian set, it would make poses a lot more interesting for IG. I've sut down a pulse rifle to pistol size, stripped some of the leg armour and extended his hairstyle a bit to reprsent his advanced age and experience (very fiddly). I've also stuck a whacking great neural link in his back. Hopefully he can disconnect the cabling himself when he gets a chance.

If I don't use the upgrade he'll still make a good objective marker.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030144.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030140.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030141.jpg

Rogue 7
06-06-2007, 13:50
Lookin' good. Tactically, Sniper teams might be better than the rail-pathfinders for your army, but I'm loving that krootfinder.

de Selby
06-06-2007, 20:08
I've read that rail-pathfinders aren't particularly good gamewise, but I'm afraid that most of what I build is dictated by rule of cool, so they're in. I'm not desperately keen on drone sniper teams, they seem a bit dull. Maybe I can build something based on all the gun drones I now have about the place.

I'm thinking the Imperial probe droid from Empire Strikes back. Wouldn't it have been even more menacing with a rail rifle? :D

I may have to do snowspeeder pirhanas with grappling hooks too, now I think of it.

schoolcormorant
06-06-2007, 21:23
bicarb is most people's option, mix it up with water into a paste, then add glue and apply :)

i love all the converisons, and the ejected pilot is cool, perhaps some scars or something from the drop?

SC

de Selby
07-06-2007, 13:54
Snow was surprisingly easy. I just have to remember not to try and eat it.

I will try painting some scars onto my battlesuit pilot. I'm a bit reluctant to go hacking into his face with a knife. I did consider giving him a tau-symbol eyepatch like the one in the artwork, but it just seemed too fiddly for my skill level.

Last night I did another fire warrior. The helmet conversion is shamelessly stolen from Weaponzero on Advanced Tau tactica (it's only tacked on so I can work on it some more:
http://www.advancedtautactica.com/viewtopic.php?t=5435

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030145.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030147.jpg

Luke
07-06-2007, 13:57
Those guys look cool. Can't help but think the pilot needs some more tech and optics and stuff, but his pistol is great.

de Selby
07-06-2007, 14:32
What have you got in mind? I could add some more electronics ports to his armour (little round blobs of greenstuff with holes bushed in them). I could maybe try giving him a sun visor. But I don't want to add too much equipment on the basis that he should really be inside his battlesuit, from which he's just had to eject at high speed...

Luke
07-06-2007, 14:42
I like the port/plug idea. That would add to the effect.

de Selby
08-06-2007, 13:39
Right, I have tried adding some ports to the front of the pilot's armour. Also built a not-very-exciting firewarrior trooper, and cobbled together a shield drone out of my bits box. What do we think?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030150.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030149.jpg

downundercadet07
08-06-2007, 23:25
A guy on the GW Oz website had a in-depth army feature about a tau army painted similar to yours. Check out the link, I think it will help a lot. Not that your stuff looks anything besides great right now. http://oz.games-workshop.com/download/popup.htm?/games/40k/tau/articles/rawhobby/october/images/3battlesuits_large.jpg

and

http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tau/articles/rawhobby/october/october.htm

Eniac
09-06-2007, 00:05
Wow, nice. I like those plug sockets on the crisis pilot. That shield drone is great too, much better than my converted shield drone.

zbeam
09-06-2007, 08:25
the sockets are definatly a great idea. you could either trim those GS ones down a little or use plastic piping to get them a little neater. im not to fond of the giant las cannon cables hanging off his back though. doesnt quite go well with the neat sockets on the front.

nice krootfinder! mine was a day later than yours hehe. i wonder how many others have krootfinders in thier armies...

and thanks for the ATT website. that place is awesome.

keep up the conversions!

im so going to race you on the shockwave idea. my paint scheme is allready the right colour and all lol. its on!

de Selby
11-06-2007, 14:33
Made not-very-much-progress this weekend (too sunny). Have made a leader for my fire warriors. His hand is on the hilt of his bonding knife but you can't really see it.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030152.jpg

Also built three more kroot and bodged together some alien conifers (I don't think jungle foliage is very appropriate to a winter world).

"Sarge, they're in the treeeeees!!!"
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030154.jpg


At last, my shiny new tau battleforce arrived this morning. At least, I hope to goodness that's what is in the parcel, I haven't opened it yet. So, lots more stuff to build this week, and painting next week.




http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tau/articles/rawhobby/october/october.htm

Cheers. Those are super-crisp. I've been pondering adding gold to my crisis suits, this may push me over the edge. What is it with Australians and cool tau? It must be the far east-manga influence I suppose.


Eniac: Thanks! It's IG tank parts, mostly. So if I want another one just like it I have to buy another Leman Russ :rolleyes:



Zbeam: When I first went to find the part I didn't realize quite how big it is. It looks... ok, I think. I don't have anything smaller and I don't think I can scratchbuild anything that will look as good. As for the ports, I have tried neatening up the greenstuff a little bit. Painting them shiny metal will probably help (I will use a different scheme for the pilot than for the warriors). I like the thought of cutting down plastic tubing... if I can find anything suitable I will try it. I'm also still working on a satisfactory way to scratchbuild markerlights; I tried whittling one out of a bit of sprue last night, with limited success.

im so going to race you on the shockwave idea. my paint scheme is allready the right colour and all lol. its on!
Damn yooooooooo!!! You'll win for sure, I've got a whole battleforce to paint before I can start. On the other hand, if you go first I can steal your good ideas... :D
I image-searched Shockwave last week and wasted an hour looking at comics art. Arg. This steampunk version is great though:
http://www.idwpublishing.com/titles/transformers/hos.shtml

And this:
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Shockwave_(G1)

de Selby
12-06-2007, 16:43
I was relieved to find exactly the right thing in the parcel:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030155.jpg
You get quite a lot of stuff in a battleforce; this should keep me out of trouble:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030156.jpg

de Selby
12-06-2007, 16:46
The devilfish looked most tempting so I started with that.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030157.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030158.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030159.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030160.jpg

Wasn't sure what to do with the aerial so I stuck it slap bang on the nose. It adds a certain je ne sais quoi, I feel.

Eniac
12-06-2007, 17:13
Looks good. I tend to stick them on the rear of the hull just behind the cupola and to either the left or right.

I do like the basic devilfish, it is a shame the hammerhead turret is so lame.

de Selby
13-06-2007, 14:37
I haven't assembled a Hammerhead yet; any better ideas for the turret?

Last night I painted up the shield drone. I am slowing down now, too much real life work to deal with...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030161.jpg

At this angle, the camera flash really gives away the patchy black spray coverage in the recesses. I'll have to go back with some watered down black at some point.

Eniac
13-06-2007, 22:43
Looks good, like a little warrior touting a shield protecting his master. Not a clue what to do about the turret. In the end I just sold mine so I didn't have to look at it anymore :D

de Selby
14-06-2007, 13:27
I saw a land raider once with an old style rhino stuck on top to make a turret. I wonder if a similar thing would be possible with a devilfish and a cut down piranha...

More fire warriors. I'll try and build all the FW and kroot before undercoating them all at once.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030169.jpg

btw, does anyone understand why the kroot shaper upgrade is so expensive? It doesn't seem worth it for the extra leadership and 3 more kroot would provide more in the way of extra wounds, CC attacks and shots...

?

schoolcormorant
14-06-2007, 13:30
i think a piranha with a railgun right through it, as a turret for a hammerhead would look mad, i'd have to give it a go ;):D

i tend to leave arms off models to paint though.....:)

SC

Eniac
14-06-2007, 13:53
I do like that idea, as long as it looks like a turret and not some mad max style thing :D

de Selby
14-06-2007, 14:39
The piranha idea was off the top of my head. If (when!!!) I finish all the stuff I've got now I plan to build a Shas'o, and if I'm still keen I'll probably complete the army with the mostly vehicle Tau megaforce. That's a few months down the line. Do I really need three piranhas or can I bust one up trying to make it into a turret? I'll see if it looks even halfway plausible when the time comes (No Mad Max junkyard stylings, I promise).

SC: I've tried various ways over the years and I found that painting the arms off the model always got me into trouble one way or another. I tend to buy faster than I paint :D so speed is a bit of a priority. It vastly increased my fiddling time and then I often had difficulty with tidying up the join. Also washes and drybrushes ended up inconsistent. On the other hand, I know the results I achieve aren't as good as yours, despite your modest manner, and this is partly because I don't pull out all the stops to ensure that the job is as neat as it can be (even in the recesses!). Maybe I'll do another log in a few years time when my skills have improved, where I paint everything 'arms off' with no problems, but for the moment my comfort zone involves assembly first, painting later. I'm playing to my strengths such as they are, with this army, partly because I'm logging every step here.

Please keep up the suggestions, everybody. I take everything on board, there's no point doing this otherwise!

edit: can't spell piranha.

de Selby
15-06-2007, 17:44
I just realised how high the devilfish 'floats' when it's on its stand. It looks really unstable. Also, I realised that the reason all the 25mm bases in the box came in their own bag is that tehy aren't moulded on sprues, but through an injection point in their centres instead. This eliminates the tedious requirement to carefully trim the edge of each one to keep it neat. Well done GW.

Anyway, building these two fire warriors last night took me the whole of Under Siege on Filmfour to complete, for some reason. So enjoy them.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030171.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030172.jpg

jasevx
15-06-2007, 17:48
I
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030172.jpg

My eyesite must be going, I thought the guy on the left was bouncing a football!

Tau's finally arrived at Bloodbowl ;)

de Selby
15-06-2007, 18:03
:D

I assure you it still looks like a helmet from most other angles, despite much scraping to hollow it out.

My tau have been studying the tactics of the adeptus astartes, and noticed that the longect lived and most effective space marine warriors hardly ever wear their helmets... ;)

schoolcormorant
15-06-2007, 18:30
he's covering his little blue tackle. makes me smile :D

SC

de Selby
15-06-2007, 18:42
I'd love to see a devilfish with a bunch of fire warriors inside sitting on their helmets, a la the air cavalry in Apocalypse Now. But someone else can do it, I'vegot enough on my plate...

Eniac
16-06-2007, 11:57
Do Tau have tackle? Someone find out! Nice posing there, he looks like he is just having a rest for a moment

jasevx
16-06-2007, 12:05
In thr Black Library Xenology book, it states reproductive anatomy remarkably similar to humans, so the answer is YES!

de Selby
18-06-2007, 16:52
Nice posing there, he looks like he is just having a rest for a moment

That is more what I had in mind, but I seem to have inadvertantly triggered an investigation into Tau reproductive anatomy. :eek:

Over the weekend I finished assembling my 20th FW and primed them, although my spray can ran out towards the end.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030177.jpg

The leader is supposed to be signalling to his team to be very, veery qwiet. I'm not sure if this comes across or if he looks like he's waving...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030181.jpg

jasevx
18-06-2007, 16:59
The shoulder pad looks to large in the picture, is that just the angle?

de Selby
18-06-2007, 21:22
They look a lot bigger viewed from the underside. I haven't done anything to it and it's set as far back as it will go. The guy lifting his helmet (back row, third from right above) has his pad in a similar postion. They're bigger than they seem; the size of small shields really.

schoolcormorant
18-06-2007, 21:26
the 'very quiet' signal model works, if it had been me, i'd have raised the thumb up to the palm, though it still works for me. nice stuff De Selby :)

SC

de Selby
18-06-2007, 22:12
gah.

I just googled this page and apparently 'freeze' is a clenched fist.

http://www.airsoftgent.be/dbase/hands.htm

I realise that tau won't necessarily use early C21 earth hand signals but it would have been cute. I've opened up the hand now. I think you're right, I will at least bring the thumb across the palm.

de Selby
19-06-2007, 13:18
I don't like the new plastic stealthsuits. Daft helmets and poor poseability. I considered trying to sell them and get some of the old metal ones, which were fine apart from being too small, but in the end I decided that Real Men convert the models they want, so I started hacking one up:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030182.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030183.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030184.jpg
pics not the best, sorry. Highly WIP. But am I on the right track or a hiding to nowhere? Thoughts please.

btw, jasevx, if you're still reading. I know you're an armed forces guy from reading your threads; do the signals in the link I posted correspond to anything you learned? Just curious.

jasevx
19-06-2007, 13:28
Funny you mention that, I'm looking for the manual to scan and put on here for you.

de Selby
19-06-2007, 13:38
Brilliant, thanks very much :D

Kraal_Lord_Of_Blood
19-06-2007, 13:54
O.O Niiiiiice stealths :D

de Selby
21-06-2007, 13:57
Thanks Kraal. I need to do some more carving if I'm going to make the heads properly poseable (note to GW: every plastic fig should have a poseable head, for goodness sake). Any suggestions for improvements, anybody?

Anyway, WarSeer was on strike yesterday, spoiling my plan for updates every weekday. In the interval I have painted these three kroot:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030190.jpg
Once they get snowed up, I will finally have a game legal army of fully painted and based Tau Empire! Albeit one consisting of 21 models and a drone.

de Selby
22-06-2007, 12:56
Ok, I've selected another 6 FW for painting and made a (fairly minimal) start last night. I'll try and finish them over the weekend.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030191.jpg
And a group shot. Despite only 24 fully painted models I feel like I've done quite a lot.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030192.jpg

jasevx
22-06-2007, 13:06
Were you looking at clenched fist on an American site?

Halt is hand up as you have it, clenched fist is Gun Group, so clenched fist then spider on head with your fingers means 'gun group to me'.

Pose is good, don't change it, you don't know which website the Tau read! ;)

jasevx
22-06-2007, 14:57
http://petebevin.com/archives/signals.html

There you go ;)

jasevx
22-06-2007, 15:01
http://www.practicalairsoft.co.uk/tactical-field-sigs.asp
http://www.unlv.edu/depts/rotc/fm21_60.pdf
http://www.clairewolfe.com/wolfesblog/handsignals.jpg

Real ones!

de Selby
22-06-2007, 15:04
:D :D :D

Hey, hassling you gets results. I will leave the hand as it is but move the forearm out to a vertical position so it looks more like a signal and less like a wave.

A tau doing 'spider on head' would take some time, methinks. Time to do the conversion then much more time to explain to every passing person what the hell he's supposed to be doing...

jasevx
22-06-2007, 16:50
My pleasure, you can depict a real five knuckle shuffle now!

Oh ang on, its Tau, four knuckle shuffle! ;)

de Selby
25-06-2007, 11:41
Four knuckle shuffle? We're back on reproductive anatomy again, aren't we. Moving swiftly on:
Phase two
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030195.jpg
Phase two and a half
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030196.jpg

Didn't get any further. I appear to have spent most of my weekend watching Battlestar Galactica. I did have time to build this Shas'ui battlesuit; equipped with plasma rifle, burst cannon, targeting array and Mk. 2 stealth knee.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030197.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030202.jpg
I prefer the stealth burst cannons to the usual battlesuit ones. Also, I forgot that I'd intended to use this plasma rifle to build another 'rail rifle' sniper. Never mind.

jasevx
25-06-2007, 11:49
Antenna on the right one could do with shortening, its going to catch on the ground if hes not careful!

calcipher
25-06-2007, 12:25
A four Knuckle shuffle is just disturbing......

de Selby
25-06-2007, 13:35
Agreed.


Antenna on the right one could do with shortening, its going to catch on the ground if hes not careful!

That's why he carries that rock around to stand on. :angel:

Actually it depends on the viewing angle as to how impractical it looks. He does just have ground clearance. I like the long aerials, but I could try tilting them forward a bit to bring the ends further away from the ground.

de Selby
26-06-2007, 16:06
Phase three and a bit...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030203.jpg
I'm really slowing down at the mo.
Things to do:
Adjust aerials, paint battlesuit.
Finish painting 4 more fire warriors and two drones for squad one.
Finish and paint devilfish.
Finish painting 4 more fire warriors and two drones for squad two.
Finish and paint stealth squad (suggestions please!)
Finish converting, and paint, converted models for pathfinder squad.
Assemble and paint 12 more kroot!
...
Buy, convert and paint Shas'O

de Selby
27-06-2007, 13:14
Went to bed early last night, but completed... drum roll... wait for it... ONE FIRE WARRIOR!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030208.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030207.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030205.jpg
At the last minute I decided to swap the brown on the shoulder for purple-blue-black (kind of blackcurrant colour) to denote different units. It looks thick as hell on the second pic; I didn't let the black basecoat dry properly before brushing on the midnight blue. I won't make this mistake again.

de Selby
28-06-2007, 13:47
Finally, these six are done.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030212.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030213.jpg

They're tabletop quality at the moment, I may work a bit more on the face (proper eyes for a start). Pic is highly overexposed, I had to darken it a bit. I'm still learning how to use my camera in extreme close up.

Devilfish next, I think.

calcipher
28-06-2007, 14:22
I REALLY like those bases de selby. very striking.

de Selby
28-06-2007, 15:29
Cheers, I'll blob some snow over the top of these at some point, to match the others. They are - small model railway stone chips (bit more interesting than sand) and PVA, white spray, shadow grey, patches of flesh wash, followed by blobs of bicarb, white glue and water.

de Selby
29-06-2007, 13:06
Had planned to undercoat devilfish last night, but rain stopped play.

So: more little green men.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030215.jpg

I am still working on that arm. Glue is drying.

hallowed_are_the_ori
29-06-2007, 13:39
OOOOOOOOOh Tau, awesome.
Not many people collect Tau when i am :(
Which is a shame cos they look awesome.

de Selby
02-07-2007, 16:57
I'm surprised by that; some of the best Tau I've seen have been Australian.

Anyway, I fiddled and faddled over the weekend, but the deluge prevented me from getting out and spraying anything.

I tweaked the pose on the suit, leaning him back and trimming away at the point where the TA joins the arm, giving an extra bit of clearance. I'm happy with it now.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030227.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030226.jpg

I cut down some bits of plastic insulation to make tiny tiny rings; are they too small or should I swap them in for the connector ports on the battlesuit pilot (removing the larger greenstuff versions)?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030224.jpg

And the remaing FW WIPs. As you may be able to tell, I have tweaked the leader's open hand.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030229.jpg

de Selby
03-07-2007, 13:29
Another One Warrior Tuesday, I'm afraid. I also painted the eyes (more or less) onto the warrior with his helmet off, although you can't really tell from the pic. They're imperfect but to do a better job I'm going to need more sunlight than Danny Boyle and a brush made from Charlize Theron's eyelash hairs, and I can't be bothered... :rolleyes: :D
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030232.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030233.jpg

hiveminion
03-07-2007, 14:02
I like these Tau, the scheme is nice and you've made some fantastic conversions, Pathfinder Kroot and converted sniper in particular. The new battlesuit looks ace as well.

de Selby
03-07-2007, 14:52
Cheers, I'm still tweaking the pathfinders but they'll get painted soon. I used up my last plasma rifle so the second sniper will have to wait, unfortunately.

Quick; advise me! Do I need to change the ports on the pilots suit to the little red rings or not??

calcipher
03-07-2007, 14:56
nice little conversions going on all over the place! lovely

de Selby
03-07-2007, 14:58
Thanks, but...


Quick; advise me! Do I need to change the ports on the pilots suit to the little red rings or not??
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030224.jpg
Yes or no! YES or NO!!!

:wtf: ;)

hiveminion
03-07-2007, 15:12
Uhm...Uhm...

Actually I think it looks fine as is, though the rings would probably be more even and smaller.

So...Uhm...

I'd say yes.:)

calcipher
03-07-2007, 15:40
yes! but he does look like he wants to hump that rock. lol

de Selby
03-07-2007, 16:04
*calms down*

:D thanks for replies. I'll do the switch tonight, then.

Despite my best efforts, some of you just seem to see Xenos smut wherever you look. Hopefully it's just the camera angle. For my part I'm sure that little tau come from cabbage patches, and you won't convice me otherwise.

de Selby
04-07-2007, 13:38
Last night I got home while it was still light. I chucked my Devilfish, Battlesuit and a bunch of drones into a box, grabbed my spray can and some newspaper, and by the time I made it to the door it was pouring down again.

So, here is a fuzzy pic of my lack of painting progress.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030236.jpg

On the plus side, hiveminion and calcipher were right, the little red rings were not too small and they do look better than the green stuff versions.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030235.jpg
The little hardened GS blobs were less fiddly to remove than I expected. I simply levered them off with the point of a knife, pinging them directly into my own face. What could be easier?

de Selby
05-07-2007, 14:01
At last, the rain held off long enough for me to do some spray undercoating.
I've started work on the battlesuit:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030238.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030241.jpg

calcipher
05-07-2007, 14:04
red bits are a good addition..and the closer shot finally convinces me of his intentions towards that rock...you can tell by the expression on his face. lol
Nice work mate!

de Selby
05-07-2007, 14:14
*puts head in hands*

Maybe I can do something with his expression when I paint him; he's supposed to be looking into the middle distance warily, not leering over a rock...

calcipher
05-07-2007, 14:37
maybe thats why Im always getting mixed signals from women over here......they are actually looking warily into the middle distance! just ignore me de selby!

de Selby
05-07-2007, 14:53
:D :D :D

Hey, all input is worth having, even weird input. Looking at the suit again I think I need to tweak the position of his head too. He doesn't really seem to be looking at anything. Fortunately I tend to superglue joins that I might plausibly need to adjust later, instead of using poly cement.

calcipher
05-07-2007, 14:54
the first thing that came to mind was that he was looking despairingly towards the heavens due to the behaviour of the aformentioned infantry model.

Kraal_Lord_Of_Blood
05-07-2007, 17:44
Something about those Fire warriors makes me wanna charge them...
Damn chaotic urges, lookin coolio dude :D

de Selby
06-07-2007, 15:36
They're not even all painted, don't behead them yet...

More work on the battlesuit:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030243.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030244.jpg

I did tweak the head but found it impossible to get it exactly level. I think it's acceptable now.

I'll try and finish all thefire warriors over the weekend, then I can blob the snow over and have two completed units (apart from drones).

jasevx
06-07-2007, 15:49
looking good, the brown needs more shading tho, very flat at the minute

de Selby
06-07-2007, 16:18
It's flat as flat can be, but I've had trouble finding a highlight mix for scorched brown that doesn't look pink. Flat brown is better than pink brown, for now.

jasevx
06-07-2007, 16:53
just mix scorched brown with bestial brown, then highlight it just bestial

de Selby
06-07-2007, 17:17
I don't have any bestial brown, but I can get some. I think all of the brownish colours I've tried for highlights have been too pale, hence the pinkness.

de Selby
09-07-2007, 15:10
Another snowy weekend (although I mixed it up a bit too thin, annoyingly).

Group shot; empty bases indicate models I haven't even built yet :D
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030245.jpg

And just the finished fire warriors. Truly eagle-eyed viewers may notice that despite paining another 19 fire warriors, I still haven't got around to sticking the aerial onto the first one I made. I think I'll leave it until I complete the army and have a little ceremony, like cutting a ribbon.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030248.jpg

hiveminion
09-07-2007, 15:15
Looks like you've still got a lot of painting to do! The models look really good on the table (the painted ones of course;)). I also find simply adding white to scorched brown results in something purplish/pinkish, adding some yellow to the mix makes it a proper light brown.
Keep it up!

de Selby
10-07-2007, 14:55
I do have a lot to do, but I reckon I can finish everything you can see in the pic within a month.

Painted two drones for blue squad last night:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/new.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030254.jpg

No update tomorrow as I will be away.

jasevx
10-07-2007, 14:56
Yet again nicely done by the King of Tau!

de Selby
10-07-2007, 15:08
:eek:

King of updating tau, maybe. There are several tau logs here that are technically more proficient than mine, so I overcompansate with lots of pictures. I'm up to 2000 views now :D

de Selby
11-07-2007, 16:47
I lied. I am here today. I am not here tomorrow.
Just two more drones for brown squad (who also need a better name). They are different drones, I promise, even if they look identical to yesterdays.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030255.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030257.jpg

hiveminion
11-07-2007, 18:02
The white is just sooo smooth. Well done, it suddenly hit me too that the green cloth on the Fire Warriors is excellent.

What hit me though is that the green on the cloth is so much lighter than that on the drones and battle suits. Is this intentional? They may tie in with each other better if you painted the green on the drones and suits a tad lighter as well.:)

The Laughing God
11-07-2007, 22:24
I like the green color scheme!

It looks really good, the kroot look awesome too, the pic where that lone kroot is running away from the Red Terror made me laugh.;)

I have to agree with hiveminion the white is very smooth looking.

Can you give us a tutorial on how you painted the green clothes? Ignore me if you already did. :D

de Selby
13-07-2007, 11:56
No pics today either. Normal service will be resumed once that monster we call 'real life' has backed off a bit.

Hiveminion, Laughing god: I don't know if I'm going to please you or disappoint you by saying this, but the green fatigues are actually painted in a very simple way. They're undercoated spray white and then I run a large (bigger than tank brush size) wet brush with slightly watered down (ie. milk consistency) DA green over the whole model. There is no highlight stage. The green tends to run into the crevices and comes out bright with natural shading, so it's basically a cheat, much like dipping models.

Of course, if I screw up later I may have to repaint areas with proper highlights, but I've always found green is easy to highlight in a few stages with the addition of a bit of skull white. I'd go this way for painting, say, greenskins, because there's so much more control when highlighting faces, but I picked the green as the underlayer for the whole fire warrior model so I wanted a quick easy method. If you look at some of the earlier pics of FW squads, you can see that on large flat areas the green looks distinctly patchy. But then I just put grey over all the armour areas so no problem.

The white is trickier and takes two or three stages to get acceptably smooth. One very patchy stage over the grey, then a second wetter stage to whiten up the patchy bits, then usually a third stage for neatness. The first stage is more or less straight out of the pot (again using a wet brush to make it go on smooth) but the last two are much waterier and take ages to dry. And some of the models still need touching up.


The green on the suits, drones and other metal surfaces is (watered down slightly, as above) painted over a black undercoat with a heavy drybrush of botgun metal. This gives a distinctly darker, slightly metallic shade of the same colour and it is deliberate, as I wanted the fatigues and the metal to look like different types of surface. I considered painting the FWs black and drybrushing white before washing on the green, as this would have given a close non-metallic match without much difficulty, but I just decided I preferred to have them obviously different. If I keep the shade consistent across the same surfaces I think it is ok. I'm considering painting a a squad with a green flash on the shoulder guards, and if so I will do the flash dark green metallic to really push the contrast and see how it looks.

de Selby
16-07-2007, 12:56
Started the Devilfish at last. I know this is practically heresy here in Project Logs, but I really don't enjoy painting tanks that much, as a rule. The Tau skimmers have more interesting designs than most, though, so now I've finally got around to it, the fish is progressing quite quickly. Still needs more work. The green is smooth but the white certainly isn't, although I left the flash on to bleach it out a bit ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030258.jpg

Hopefully this gives an idea of how it will look when finished.

edit: Hey! I got 4 stars! :cool:

calcipher
16-07-2007, 15:55
Its good deselby. Nice smooth paint job. I think the white is a little too pristine though...need some battle damage!

de Selby
16-07-2007, 16:39
Appearances are deceiving. See the right side hatch? In reality the white looks more like that. By contrast, with the naked eye I can't see any patchiness in the green at all, whereas you can see it in the pic. I'll take a photo without flash once I've tidied up a bit and you'll get a better idea.

Once the white is properly smooth, I'll dirty up the front 'wings' a bit and the engine vents. Lots more to do.

de Selby
17-07-2007, 11:17
Suffering another attack of real life this week, but drones are always quick and easy. Markerlight drone for my crisis team (I didn't know what else to do with it).
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030263.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030262.jpg

de Selby
18-07-2007, 12:58
Had a go at the battlesuit pilot last night. Since he's supposed to be inside a suit, I used a different colour scheme. Brown and black to suggest technical utilitarianism, with some gold decoration to suggest seniority.

I painted the cabling in simialr colours to the data cables inside a pc,though it's a bit blurred in all of thses pics.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030266.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030264.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030265.jpg

hiveminion
18-07-2007, 15:56
Looks good De Selby, is he still wip? :)

de Selby
18-07-2007, 16:51
Yes. The base certainly is and various bits need tidying up. The fatigues are just brown+brown ink at the moment. I know his face looks flat in the pics but I did highlight it! Three times! Also, I did talk about trying to paint him with scars.

I was going to paint the chest armour more metallic but theres already a fair amount of superglue and layers of paint on there, and it's looking distinctly thick. I will go back to the little round data ports and put a little bit of blue light in each one to suggest some optical connection tech.

What else is a high priority?

hiveminion
18-07-2007, 17:20
I think lights for the data ports is an excellent idea, makes them stand out.

de Selby
19-07-2007, 14:55
Did a little more last night.

I have been adding some more layers of white to the fish to smooth it out. I realise this is impossible to discern from the pic, but in real life it makes a big difference. Also the vision slits in blue. Will finish by the end of the week.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030267.jpg

Maynard
19-07-2007, 14:58
Very nice work there De Selby, I often have trouble making my white come out that well but that's a very clean colour scheme you have there, well done.

de Selby
19-07-2007, 15:14
Cheers. The more patient I am, the more thin layers I apply, and the more care I take not to disturb the paint as it's drying, the smoother the result I get.


btw, does anyone know: what's the appropriate glue to use for holding flying stands together? Every time I pick up a model the 'base' falls off the 'stick' and sooner or later I'm going to break something important this way.

de Selby
20-07-2007, 14:21
Slightly chaotic evening. I added a bit more work to the pilot, spent absurd amounts of time trying to find good bits to make another shield drone, then got sidetracked defrosting the fridge (with integral freezer compartment so full of ice that the door wouldn't shut properly :wtf:).

Pics are not the best.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030270.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030268.jpg

hiveminion
20-07-2007, 15:27
Don't know much about Tau but that drone looks great, although you now what's coming next don't you?

REMOVE THE MOULDLINES!1!!one!exclamationmark
;)

The Devilfish looks awesome, can't wait to see what else you'll be doing with it!

de Selby
20-07-2007, 16:52
:D

Even I had noticed the mold lines on the drone; I need to pull the whole thing apart and do it again properly. I just wanted to have something to show for my evening. Also, I am annoyed that it's still impossible to see the black and white stripes on one of the pilot's data cables, that I am particularly pleased with. Hopefull this weekend I will get a chance to finish things properly and take good photos.

About the devilfish; I am thinking of applyig the same stylised black flame effect from my Shas'el's shield generator to the nose and maybe around the engines, but I don't want to spoil the current clean scheme by messing up. Thoughts?

hiveminion
20-07-2007, 17:33
Perhaps you can draw the contours with a pen first, then simply paint inside of the lines.

de Selby
23-07-2007, 13:40
As promised, stylised flame effects. I used the same method as for the Shas'els shield generator. For now, the Devilfish is finished. If I'm bored of looking at it after a few weeks I may add the weathering, but for now I quite like the clean paintjob.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030272.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030273.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030275.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030277.jpg


Also, I've been working on the stealth team intermittently over the last few weeks, and last night (to a soundtrack of Dangerous Dave's Dance Anthems) I finished re-modelling them. I'll take pics tonight.

schoolcormorant
23-07-2007, 13:54
WOWOWOWOW that fevildish is incredible, lovely work, i never thought freehand designs would look good but they look phenomenal.

awesome work de selby, though you can't be a real man, a real man would use a woodworking tool to chip away the ice to let it close the door, not defrost, and therefore bow down to letting the ice melt of it's own accord. bring on climate change i say, otherwise i shall lead a cavalry charge against the icey devils and then send the video of 200 horses sliding about on the ice to YBF then invest the 250 in stocks of ice which will one day be required and then i shall rule the world mwahahahahah!!!!!1!

ahem. nice tau!

SC

de Selby
23-07-2007, 18:13
Cheers.

On the refriggerator debacle: I went and got a hammer and a screwdriver, but the fridge isn't mine and I was afraid of knacking it. Repeatedly refrozen ice is tough and I was having to hit it pretty hard just to make dents. I considered Sojourner's not-health-and-safety-approved thread about steam defrosting a fridge (possibly while shouting "SPArTA!!!" repeatedly at it), but as you suggest I wasn't man enough. And I don't look good in a loincloth.

Of course, next morning I slipped in the resulting pool of meltwater and nearly broke my toe, but I think this only bears out my decision not to attempt anything really dangerous...

hiveminion
23-07-2007, 18:52
I considered Sojourner's not-health-and-safety-approved thread about steam defrosting a fridge (possibly while shouting "SPArTA!!!" repeatedly at it), but as you suggest I wasn't man enough. And I don't look good in a loincloth.


:D

Nice work on the Devilfish.
Hmmm I see a guildership but no custom title. *hint-hint*;)

de Selby
24-07-2007, 13:52
It's taken me about six years to spam my way to Chapter Master, I'm inclined to enjoy the title for a bit.

As promised, here are the finished stealthsuits. I've been working intermittently on them for weeks (including re-posing the test fig I showed earlier); the real difficulty was drilling/scraping out volume from within what's left of the helmet front, to form a sort of gorget*. Hopefully the paintjob will hide the lack of neatness in this area.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030280.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030283.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030282.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030281.jpg




*may or may not be the right word. Use at own risk.

de Selby
24-07-2007, 13:53
Double post.
Some pics with flash.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/left.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/middle.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/right.jpg

hiveminion
24-07-2007, 13:57
Good job on those, they look a lot better than the originals in my opinion.
(the originals always make me think of walking easter eggs :wtf: I think they fit better with Pokemon than with 40k)

de Selby
24-07-2007, 18:37
I think I've posted before about what a missed opportunity the plastic stealths are. They had the opportunity to create a cool new plastic exo-armour design that could have given the iconic terminator design a run for its money, and instead produced walking easter eggs, as you say.

They're very hard to convert to anything, too. The advantage of this is that no-one else will have stealth suits just like mine. The disadvantage is that if I expand the army I'll have to make three more :cries:

de Selby
25-07-2007, 13:41
Painted the converted 'pathfinder' leader. The green is not the best, because the cloth areas are all scraped down plastic with no folds and recesses, so I may highlight them again properly. Also, the aerial should be black to match the other pathfinders.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030288.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030289.jpg

Eniac
25-07-2007, 22:56
Loving the stealth suits de Selby, and good job too on that pathfinder. I would like to see some mottling on the bare heads though. I add darker blue mottled patterns to my tau heads to make them look more alien. And it adds extra depth and detail

de Selby
26-07-2007, 13:34
Hmm. Mottling, you say? I will try it.

Here is the krootfinder for the same squad.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030297.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030298.jpg
without flash...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030293.jpg

de Selby
27-07-2007, 17:20
A drone. Always nice to finish the week with a drone.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1030291.jpg
I'm away for the next few days so no more updates until the end of the week, probably.

de Selby
03-08-2007, 14:18
Hello all. No proper update today but I am back, so more tau by Monday.

Also, while passing through London I had time to pop into the well-known Orc's Nest and pick up this model:
http://www.rackham-store.com/boutique_us/fiche_produit.cfm?type=601&ref=FRCD13&code_lg=lg_us&pag=1&num=46
Rackham's riposte to the Ogre Kingdoms' Maneaters. I've loved it since it was first released and when I found one on the shelf I couldn't resist. Will be an interesting change of pace from Tau, although I know from experience not to try and emulate Rackham's paint scheme.

schoolcormorant
03-08-2007, 14:20
thats a coool model :P the elephant man only more ugly ;)

congratulations on you're safe return from london, where terrorism is not so much an occurence as an expectation.

SC

hallowed_are_the_ori
03-08-2007, 14:20
Keep up the good work de selby

de Selby
06-08-2007, 13:03
Cheers guys. I like visiting the capital actually; apart from indie stores with figs that I can't get anywhere else, I also like to stop off in the British Museum whenever I get a chance. The mid-eastern ancient weapons even gave me a few ideas for 40k!


These took me ages to assemble for some reason. Hopefully I can do some spraycoating tonight:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035909.jpg

hallowed_are_the_ori
06-08-2007, 13:46
Keep up the good work de selby.
I'm quite a fan of this log. :)

de Selby
07-08-2007, 12:16
Why is it that no matter how much spray paint I buy I never have enough?

Last night: basecoating progress. Note that for the ogre I've gone to the trouble of sticking the parts to bits of sprue (a trick I learned here on warseer, thanks to whoever invented it) for seperate painting. It's purely a display piece so I'm taking the hard road. Cast is excellent with almost no mould lines, but quite a lot of release agent that I had to scrub off.

NOTE TO MODS:
Please don't move this to general logs. It's only the one non-40k figure.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035910.jpg



I'm quite a fan of this log. :)

:)

de Selby
08-08-2007, 13:32
Not a very productive day on the painting front, but I received a couple of interesting items in the mail:
1. My Warseer summer exchange mini has arrived, thanks to Daveisthebest and his mum ;)
2. My Shas'O, ordered from an ebay trader. I will try and finish the rest of the tau before I devote any serious time to converting him, but I have plans.

Some paint on one of the stealths:
Obviously camouflage in a snow field is clean futuristic white, which is convenient, but I'm thinking of leaving some ares of the model dark to match the dark ground under the snow. Your thoughts?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035912.jpg

hallowed_are_the_ori
08-08-2007, 13:34
Sweet, your army is one f the army project logs im heaps keen on and have been watching for quite some time!

hiveminion
08-08-2007, 13:56
I really like the one Kroot swinging his rifle at his enemies!

As for the Stealth scheme I agree with you to keep some parts dark, it'll contrast nicely with the white camo, and after all tundra has lots of dark patches of frozen mud and moss.
Keep it up mate.

de Selby
09-08-2007, 16:29
Bit more paint on the stealths. The codex grey areas will all be white.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035918.jpg
edit: crikey, that pic is overexposed. They're considerably darker in real life.

Factoid of the week:
The tau commander set comes with a small plastic container with the metal parts. Once cut from the sprue, all the components of the kit also fit inside this container:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035916.jpg

hiveminion
09-08-2007, 17:06
We learn something new every day!:D

Stealths look really cool, I eagerly await the finished result. So you know what to do.;)

schoolcormorant
09-08-2007, 17:20
hmm, here's me thinking you lived in a nordic country, what with the walrus... though of course the location is a borges novel (iirc?)... but with the yorkshire tea, you are revealed sir! :D

nice work on the stealths, nicely defined ;)

the only thing i'd say is, i think you've got a little too much paint on the brush when drybrushing the black areas. or the paintbrush is a bit damp.

keep it up :)

SC

de Selby
09-08-2007, 18:03
It's always been the Uk, I just think Walruses are cool. I can see how it could be misleading, perhaps I should change it to an English national animal like... a lion... :wtf:

You remember correctly about the Borges story, one of my favourites.

The drybrushing is too heavy (though not quite as noticeable as in the photo) but when I did it I thought I was going to paint over it. It was supposed to be a one minute job to bring out the relief on the model and show me where the edges were to paint up to, but when I was half done I started liking the two tone effect and thinking about leaving some areas dark. I had intended the whole unit would be like the one on the left, fully painted white with some different colours on the guns and other details. Now if I'm going to leave bluish black areas I know I have to go back and tidy them up a bit.


We learn something new every day!:D


My apologies, at one o'clock in the morning this seemed notable enough to be worth photographing and I thought I might as well show it. I was reminded of those competitions for kids where you have to get as many different things as possible inside a matchbox.

Kraal_Lord_Of_Blood
09-08-2007, 18:05
Those Stealths FTW ! :D

schoolcormorant
09-08-2007, 18:06
heeee heee :D lol. don't get me wrong mate, i wasn't having a go, just that the news was broken to me of you're location via yorkshire tea (adverts voiced by bill nighy i'll have you know...)

SC

de Selby
09-08-2007, 20:14
Cheers guys.

The yourkshire tea tin is overflowing with clippers, toothbrushes, milliput, glue, green stuff, bits of solder wire, bags of stone chips, slate and other hobby-relevant detritus. I can no longer get the lid on it.

de Selby
10-08-2007, 13:35
More progress. I will add some gold trim and smooth out the white with another coat or two, but this is basically how they should end up looking. Photo'd by daylight which makes a big difference:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035920.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035921.jpg

I used some watered down chaos black to dull out some of the worst excesses of the drybrushing, now it needs bringing back up a bit, I think.

hallowed_are_the_ori
10-08-2007, 14:09
Nice work, good to see your army is progressing

de Selby
14-08-2007, 16:43
Hmm. Every time I tried to post an update, Warseer seemed to be on the blink.

I finally polished off the stealth suits this weekend, although they won't look right until I've added the snow effect. I fiddled and faddled with them so much (sometimes adding paint to a surface that wasn't already dry; a schoolboy error) that they're distinctly rough in places. I had trouble with neatening up one guy's burst cannon, which has ended up a bluish shade different from the rest, but I think it looks ok.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035925.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035922.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035923.jpg
Also tried mottling the skin of the leader; it kind of ended up like blue freckles or something by the time I was done. There's a slight shine that is absent in real life.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035926.jpg

de Selby
14-08-2007, 16:44
(4 pic limit)
Also put paint on the ogre and some of the kroot. I finished one, just because it was Hiveminion's favourite.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035930.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035929.jpg
These kroot were not undercoated carefully enough; they are distinctly textured and the high resolution versions of these pics appear 'bobbly'. It's most noticeable to the naked eye on the metallic areas.

hiveminion
14-08-2007, 16:55
:D You made me feel all special!

They look great, the stealth suit team is A-mazing and I like the blue skin on the Kroot, it'll fit in nicely with the other colours of your army scheme.

Just one thing, I dunno what kind of technology the Fusion (right?) weapon uses, but if it's plasma/heat based maybe a lighter colour in the slits would make it look more like it's glowing with energy.

EDIT:

that was weird

'the following errors occured when you submitted this message:

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:wtf:

Eniac
14-08-2007, 17:15
Those stealths look pretty trick. I love the blue accents on the black areas of the armour and that white is very neat indeed. A hard thing to pull off. I like the mottling on the flesh.

de Selby
14-08-2007, 18:11
Thanks guys. :)

I usually fill the grooves in the fusion gun with white and then put watery blue on top, to make it as pale as possible. I wasn't so careful this time, and I'm amazed that it was noticeable! I can tweak it a bit.

de Selby
15-08-2007, 13:31
I'm back on my 'a kroot a day' program again. This one is nearly finished.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035931.jpg
Also, I have painted the ogre's face. I'm pleased with how it turned out: his left eye really isn't cast at all, so I basically freehanded it on to the face to match the right one, and I think it's a pretty good job. Now i'm scared to add the pupil/iris in case I :wtf: it up.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035935.jpg

hallowed_are_the_ori
15-08-2007, 14:08
nice work de selby

The Laughing God
15-08-2007, 17:34
I like the kroot, how do you paint the blue?

de Selby
16-08-2007, 14:39
I was going to post a step by step, but computer was on the blink making things difficult. I use shadow grey, regal bue and white.
1. Basecoat shadow grey over white undercoat.
2. Highlight with shadow grey:white 2:1 mix
3. Highlight with shadow grey:white 1:2 mix
4. Mix some regal bue into a drop of water to make a thin blue and wash it over the whole model, tying the highlights together while making the blue much deeper
5. Go back with grey/white mix and touch up the highlights on the forehead, cheekbones, beak, shoulders and other most-raised areas.

Result=
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035937.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035938.jpg
also I have tried to brighten up the fusion gun vents.

Endemion
16-08-2007, 16:11
Like your stealths a lot, they look far better without the standard giant helmets

The Laughing God
16-08-2007, 16:42
Thanks De Selby for posting the tutorial.

Your army is coming along nicely. Keep it up. :)

-The Laughing God-

de Selby
17-08-2007, 14:56
Cheers guys. I will do the skin on all the remaining kroot, and if I remember will try to photo each stage so you can see for yourself.

Twin linked kroot:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035941.jpg
should the tassels be green or some other colour?

hiveminion
17-08-2007, 14:59
What about white? I think these Kroot could use some white to tie them in with the Tau.
Looking good, the blue skin is great!

de Selby
17-08-2007, 15:32
You've got a point there. That's what the green was supposed to do, but it clashes with the blue. Why didn't I think of white?

de Selby
20-08-2007, 17:50
Achieved a little progress on a lot of projects over the weekend. Have started conversion work on Shas'o, painted skin on the remaining kroot, and done some more work on the mercenary ogre.

The quantity of stuff this model carries around is amazing. Front and back, I count a chopper, two shields, a busted clockface, a tin teapot converted into 'elbow armour', a lamp, a leg of pork/beef/lamb or something, a string o sausages, a mace with a gargoyle's head, a small barrel (presumably of liquor), the head of an elephant (quite prominent!), pots, pans and ladels, keys, a roll of something (a tablecloth?) and an alarm clock!


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/back.jpg

hiveminion
20-08-2007, 19:15
The quantity of stuff this model carries around is amazing. Front and back, I count a chopper, two shields, a busted clockface, a tin teapot converted into 'elbow armour', a lamp, a leg of pork/beef/lamb or something, a string o sausages, a mace with a gargoyle's head, a small barrel (presumably of liquor), the head of an elephant (quite prominent!), pots, pans and ladels, keys, a roll of something (a tablecloth?) and an alarm clock!



Why would an Ogre need keys? You'd think he'd just smash the door in.

That Ogre is looking amazing, all the details stand out perfectly, the wood and meat in particular look awesome. A cool model with a cool paintjob so far!

de Selby
21-08-2007, 11:15
Cheers. Immediately under the roll of cloth and the pots and pans is some kind of knapsack that I forgot to mention, probably because I painted it in the same colours as his clothes. I think I'll change it to an orangey brown to make it stand out more. The whole thing is very much WIP. As for the keys, maybe he likes the jingly noise they make? :D

A bit slow off the mark this week: just to prove I am doing something, here are the last 6 kroot at the regal blue stage.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035946.jpg

hallowed_are_the_ori
21-08-2007, 12:19
Looking good

de Selby
22-08-2007, 11:14
Thanks for watching, hallowed_are_the_ori. I'm painting all the remaining kroot in a batch because it's a bit faster than doing them one at a time, but also less interesting.

Last night's work was done while listening to Ridley Scott's Alien commentary. Perhaps I should have saved that one for working on nids ;)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035948.jpg

hallowed_are_the_ori
22-08-2007, 12:23
Looks good :D

de Selby
23-08-2007, 12:39
Finished the kroot (apart from the tongues! I forgot them!) last night. I'm not as happy with them as with the first unit I did, really, but I'm a bit fed up wiith them. Will base at the weekend, possibly. I'd prefer to do snow as a big batch job.

Last night's painting was accompanied by some godawful london underground horror movie called creep. Featured a -now comes as standard- scene of a young woman pleading for mercy before being messily ripped up. What is the point of this? There's no empathy for the victim and it's not scary once you're just waiting for the inevitable. Not even the monster seemed to be enjoying himself.

btw, anyone who can explain what he was supposed to be gets a notional cookie, because I missed the beginning and stopped paying any attention by the end. Something to do with medical experiments?
:rolleyes:

Anyway, the minis (sponsored by Yorkshire Tea) :D :
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035952.jpg

hiveminion
23-08-2007, 13:16
They look real nice, though I think there should still be more white in the scheme. Now here comes a crazy idea of mine...how about painting the quills white? With a distinct blue shade in the recesses, I'd say. May be worth considering.

As for the horror movie, I thoroughly hate slasher films myself. The only purpose of such movies is to show how sadistic and bloodthirsty we still are. If a movie is known for loads of bloodshed (that Aztec thing by Mel Gibson, for example), people flood the cinemas to see it.

[/rant]

Keep up the good work!

de Selby
23-08-2007, 15:31
I've pondered putting grey-white bars across the quills (some birds have plumage like this). It might look cool or it might look like bobbins, I don't know. I've also held back one kroot model to make into a shaper (eventually), and I will definitely try and give him whitish quills to reflect his great age!

Off topic 1: As for the movie, it's not that I object to slasher genre movies as such (although they tend to be repetitive and I prefer more fantasy content in my horror), I just think there's been a bit of a disturbing shift from 'imagine this happened to you!' towards 'imagine if you could do this to someone!'. The most recent Hostel film was marketed entirely on the premise that the viewer would get to see beautiful women mutilated by perverts. Err, no thanks.

Off topic 2: re. your sig, this is the first one in ages I can do. I spent most of one evening with friends arguing about the next problem up (actually 12 apples and three weighs allowed, but without knowing if the odd apple was heavier or lighter). Eventually worked out a general solution. Can you do 81 apples (find the one that's heavier) with 4 weighs? :evilgrin:

de Selby
24-08-2007, 14:09
Spent last night converting the Shas'o, but he's still in bits and so not amenable to photography. Instead, here is my Warseer summer exchange mini. He's supposed to be stooping to a casualty but since I don't have a suitable casualty I re-posed him a bit.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035962.jpg

de Selby
29-08-2007, 12:41
Warseer has been on the blink. I was away for the bank holiday weekend so this one is progressing slowly. Here are a few WIP pics anyway.


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035963.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035965.jpg

You may be able to see that I have cut down the head shape to make it octagonal. Also tried to add some mechanical fingers to the left hand; they must deploy sometimes.

It's a real pain trying to integrate the cyclic ion blaster into the arms as it doesn't have the same boxy design as the plastic tau weapons and I ended up just cutting down a couple of flat platic bits and using them to stick it on. I'm not very happy with it, it's the antithesis of the smoothly integrated tau design aesthetic, but I'm out of ideas.

hallowed_are_the_ori
30-08-2007, 02:00
I love the poses you give your battle suit thingos, really inspiring me to do the same types of poses for my Sentinels.

de Selby
30-08-2007, 13:55
:) good to hear.

No proper update today, I tinkered a bit last night and decided to take the right arm apart and do a better job of the CIB. I am going to chop it up and combine it with a plastic fusion blaster to integrate it better with the arm. Hopefully this will result in a suitably terrifying super-weapon...

de Selby
31-08-2007, 14:13
Right, this is more what I was after. I cut the CIB in three parts, then trimmed off the distinctive muzzle and fuel cell of the fusion gun and replaced with the ends of the CIB. The mid section was a cool looking part so I stuck it on around the back.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035967.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035971.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035972.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035968.jpg

jasevx
31-08-2007, 14:22
Can't believe you do so much conversion on these, keep it coming!

schoolcormorant
31-08-2007, 14:51
i like that De Selby :D

"come get some"

SC

de Selby
31-08-2007, 17:38
:D That's exactly what I had in mind.

A few more tweaks and he'll be ready to paint.

Jase: I'm pretty sure I don't put any more effort into converting suits than you do into tanks. They're relatively big miniatures (bigatures?) and I don't have that many so it's relatively easy to play around with them.

de Selby
03-09-2007, 14:13
My righteous path to the greater good has met with two obstructions this weekend.

Obstruction 1: I intended to get some thick quitar string and use it for cabling to complete the sniper WIP I posted ages ago. However the local shops only sell guitar strings in complete sets which makes them rather too expensive for a modeller's whim. Anyone who can suggest an alternative (or any musician who can mail me a broken string in exchange for some bits) will earn my eternal gratitude.

Obstruction 2: Once again I have run out of spray (this time black) and must wait until the shop has some in stock so the Shas'o is on hold.


While we wait, here is the current state of my summer exchange mini:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035974.jpg

de Selby
10-09-2007, 16:35
Finally, I got some spray and polished off the Shas'o.
My 'command section'.
Photo'd at night...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035990.jpg
Photo'd by day...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036009.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036010.jpg
And here is the current state of the mercenary ogre. I have tried giving him some 'tattoos'. I would have liked to tattoo 'HATE' and 'HATE' on his knuckles, but only one set is visible so this is only a notional joke.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1035978.jpg
Should I stick the shield on or not, guys?

de Selby
10-09-2007, 16:36
Finally, an army shot or two...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036006.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036012.jpg

This post marks the end of part one of this army, at about 1200 points. It's taken me since Easter to get this far, and the army is now playable supposing I ever get around to it. I had intended to add a megaforce if I still had enthusiasm left by this stage, but my plans have changed due to the imminent new deals for Apocalypse, which could potentially allow me to get considerably more stuff for only a bit more money.

So, the tau will be on hiatus for at least a month. I have plent of other stuff to do but I won't even attempt to do daily updates from now on. It's good discipline but real life takes up some of my time too. I spent last week working on quite an involved conversion project for another army, so this log isn't going to disappear.

Thanks everyone for viewing and for helping me get this far with my tau, particularly the regulars and those who made suggestions for improvements, whether I took them up or not.

:)

schoolcormorant
10-09-2007, 18:12
wowz! what an army :D

needs more tanks ;):D

loving it, top notch painting too.

SC

de Selby
10-09-2007, 18:47
Well, if I buy the armour set that's coming out for apoc, that will be three more 'tanks'.

I do actually have some proper tanks (you know, the IG ones. With rivets) languishing in my bitsbox. If you're good I will paint them.

Anardakil
10-09-2007, 19:21
Very nice looking tau. You should be proud of your army :)

de Selby
10-09-2007, 19:35
:) Thanks.

It is pleasing to be able to set the whole thing up and not have to worry about unfinished units. In the past it's taken me years to get to that stage with an army, as I generally seem to buy a lot faster than I can paint

Anardakil
10-09-2007, 21:02
Haha that's a syndrome/habit/whatever we've got in common ;)

de Selby
13-09-2007, 15:57
I'm feeling inspired to try and polish off some existing projects that have been hanging around for a while. This one is what's taken up the last two weeks, and has only been on the go for about six months in total, which makes it relatively recent.

To quote Christian Byrne, generally my greenstuff skills are 'limited to gap filling and not getting it on my clothes'. However I had eight spare hormagaunts and a gargoyle-shaped gap in my army list, so I started converting.

Here is the first one to be finished (ish), plus seven more on the way. I think that this is the sigle most ...annoying... unit conversion I have ever undertaken, but it's nearly over.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036018.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036017.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036016.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036019.jpg

Kraal_Lord_Of_Blood
13-09-2007, 19:42
Kool! O.o .

ReaperOfSouls
13-09-2007, 22:02
That is one really nice looking gargoyle you have there. I've been planning on doing something similar for a while and I might just steal your idea and slightly modify it. But I'm a bit lazy so I'll prolly just make 2 or 3 pairs of wings and try to set up some moulds for casting ;)

de Selby
14-09-2007, 12:19
Cheers guys.

If you're good at casting then give it a go. I certainly don't recommend doing what I've done, it takes forever. But I've never cast anything more complicated than a purity seal, and thin sheets of greenstuff can be tricky to work with.

de Selby
05-10-2007, 11:09
We now return to your not-so-regularly-scheduled programme...

After focusing on real life for a bit (I got sent to Oslo, which was nice), I am now working on my nids again. The greenstuff work on these gargoyles is basically finished. Some have turned out better than others, and I'm hoping that a few layers of paint will cover a multitude of sins, but I'm pretty happy with them.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036030.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036031.jpg

hiveminion
05-10-2007, 12:00
That is an awesome bunch of Gargoyles mate, very cool idea. If it didn't cost so many of those oh-so-shiny scything talons, I'd give it a go myself. Can't wait to see these painted!

de Selby
05-10-2007, 12:43
I had some reservations about gumming up all those scything talons, too. But it's only one complete hormagaunt per gargoyle; each wing is made from one hormagaunt talon and one genestealer talon (which I don't use on genestealers, preferring to field more bodies rather than upgrades), so it's not as bad as you may be thinking...

de Selby
09-10-2007, 18:48
I've finally painted up my winged warriors (one of a handful of forgeworld purchases). All my nid models are inked/drybrushed for speed, as there are about 130 of them and I did most of them in one go...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036035.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036034.jpg

So, the gargoyles will look a bit like this when they're done.

de Selby
17-10-2007, 12:51
At last, the gargoyles are tabletop ready. Rather heavy highlights!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036048.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036046.jpg

As you can see, I have tried to add a kind of spotty mottled pattern to the topside of the wings to break them up a bit.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036044.jpg

Despoiler
17-10-2007, 14:14
The tau look amazing. Especially the stealths, they seem altogether much tougher looking.

nice gargoyle conversions and the warriors are look good.
what else does your army contain?

As for the ogre thats alot of stuff,
a chopper, two shields, a busted clockface, a tin teapot converted into 'elbow armour', a lamp, a leg of pork/beef/lamb or something, a string o sausages, a mace with a gargoyle's head, a small barrel (presumably of liquor), the head of an elephant (quite prominent!), pots, pans and ladels, keys, a roll of something (a tablecloth?) and an alarm clock!

wait a second! pots, pans, teapots, tablecloths sure he isn't the ogre equvilent of a door to door sales person.

knock! knock!
Ogre:"Ello sir!, would ye be interested in buyin sum pots un pans or a tablecloth?"
man:"no thanks,"
Ogre:"RAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH!" *raises mace above his head*
Man:"AAARGH, ok i'll have the lot,"
Ogre:"Good choice, sir"

Leunam
17-10-2007, 14:23
Great conversion work on the Gargoyles.

Earthbeard
17-10-2007, 14:36
Really excellent conversion work on those gargoyles.

Can't believe I've never thought of a similar idea before.

Consider it stored for future use, with your kind permission of course.

hiveminion
17-10-2007, 14:50
Looking good mate, though personaly I'd be tempted to do the black claw parts on the wings the same red as the carapace, just to tie them in with the rest of the model.:)

de Selby
17-10-2007, 17:30
Despoiler: Door-to-door Sales Ogres sound awesome (and very effective). The next step up from Mail Order Trolls, presumably ;)
More tau are on the way (in the post, hopefully).
I will try and take a photo of my nid horde at some point. I am in the process of re-basing them all (and have been for about six months :rolleyes: ), as the old bases were exceedingly 'basic'.

Leunam: Thanks!

Earthbeard: permission granted of course. If you decide to have a go, and if you want more detail on what I did and what I'd do differently, let me know.

Hiveminion: glad you're still around (I may be changing my current log arrangements, watch this space). I will consider painting the talons a different colour. I have a lot of nids with black talons and I want them to be consistent, so if I make a change it will take me a while. I was thinking a purple-blue colour (like the Shas'o) as this would be easy to put over the black. For some reason red hadn't occurred to me. I will ponder it.

Captain Brown
17-10-2007, 21:22
de Selby,

Great Gargoyle conversions, I will have to send a link to NeoXeo, he is always complaining that the Gargoyles are too expensive and here you have designed a really cost effective conversion. 5/5

Like the way you have used some of the spare Tau bits as well. Keep it up.

Subscribes.

CB

de Selby
19-10-2007, 16:17
Thanks Captain Brown. I'm subscribed to your Tau log too, but I didn't really have any constructive comments to leave. They are very crisp and you are super-quick!

Instead of real work, last night I photo'd my nid horde for Despoiler.
126 models total
151 wounds
~2000 points. I intend to add a lictor, zoanthropes and tyrant guard at some point. Even then it won't be big enough for apocalypse games! :wtf:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036051.jpg
I think nids look best in profile.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036049.jpg

Despoiler
20-10-2007, 12:54
horde looks good.

my nid list is close to 3k in points (I think)

1 tyrant
24 warriors (2 units of 9 one of 6)
32 hormies (2 units of 16)
32 termies
2 zoans
2 carnis
36 stealers

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e327/Nargris/tyranids/100_0962.jpg

(the lictors and rippers are not in my list but are on the picture. Also this was from last christmas i don't but up the tree this early)

de Selby
25-10-2007, 17:19
That's a lot of warriors!

Right, Captain Brown has assisted me in changing my log arragements. I am trying out something new. The second half of my Tau army will be logged over on Ammobunker, everything else I make will be here on Warseer in this log (now in general).

To whet your appetite, here is a pic of the box that arrived yesterday:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036053.jpg

and a link to the new log:

http://z3.invisionfree.com/The_Ammobunker/index.php?showtopic=530


Warseer will not be neglected either. I have something for necrons in the works...

de Selby
08-02-2008, 15:40
*three months pass*

I've finished the Tau! You can see them in the link above. I said that I wouldn't neglect this log while I was doing them, but I lied.
I also said that I was working on something for necrons, and I was telling the truth! I have built a flying stand for my monolith. In fact it is a ruin (with skeletons) with a flying stand built into the top of it, so from the right angle the monolith appears to be hovering menacingly. Not sure about in the pics tho.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/s1036146.jpg


The rest of the army has been (basically) painted for ages. It's a bit small, but maybe it'll get bigger when necrons get a revision, as I just bought/made stuff I liked.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/s1036149.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/s1036148.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/s1036147.jpg

McMullet
08-02-2008, 15:51
Nice idea with the Monolith base. I think you're right that it doesn't quite come through on the photos, but it looks much more interesting that a standard 'lith.

Nice colourscheme on that and the rest of the army! :)

Codsticker
08-02-2008, 16:12
At last, the gargoyles are tabletop ready. Rather heavy highlights!

The pattern on the wings is just great. Two thumbs up.

de Selby
11-02-2008, 15:26
Thanks McMullet, Codsticker.

Now here's a couple more oddments that I have on my workdesk, pleading to be painted:

The fire dragon is a 2hd hand model I bought for a pound, just to paint.
The lictor is more or less out-of-the-box except for the flesh hooks, which are out of a tyranid warrior set, dipped in boiling water and allowed to curl up slightly, then attached to the arms with greenstuff and superglue. Inspired by a Roberto Cirrillo concept drawing. A real pleasure to build this beast; another JG masterpiece, I think.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/s1036157.jpg

Palatine Katinka
13-02-2008, 05:38
Cool!

Some of the conversions here are really awesome, I like all the Tau Firewarrior stuff.

de Selby
13-02-2008, 14:50
Thanks palatine!

Have painted the fire dragon. This was really fun, I now have to resist the urge to go buy a load more eldar.
Colour scheme based on an Aspect Warriors Index Xenos article in WD. If anyone recognises it, can they tell me the issue number as I can't find it!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036172.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036170.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036168.jpg

And facing down the (WIP) lictor.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036163.jpg

McMullet
13-02-2008, 15:21
Loving the colours on the Lictor. He's a beaut. :)

The fire dragon scheme is nice but it could do with something to, er, realificate it. The red-orange-yellow with blue makes it look somewhat like a boiled sweet, or maybe a snap together coloured plastic model. Don't get me wrong here, it's well done and looks nice - the examples in the previous sentence are simply to describe what's wrong with it.

I think some deeper shading between the various parts and some neutral-coloured spots (either components of the armour, or decorative runes) would help a lot.

de Selby
13-02-2008, 17:44
Thanks for comments. I rather like the completely un-naturalistic colours; sometimes I feel like everything I paint is mostly brown or green or grey. I guess I may have gone too far the other way.

I take your point about the shading. I can add some more shading around the torso to make the figure better defined.

McMullet
13-02-2008, 18:50
Fair enough. I'm not sure it's the unnatural colours that make it not-quite-right anyway; shading alone might be enough. Perhaps part of the problem is that the shading on the yellow is lighter than the highlights on the red; it might be better if you used the same level of shade everywhere, but made the shading sharper on the lighter parts.

de Selby
13-02-2008, 19:31
I'm not sure I can pull that off without screwing it up completely. I'm pretty happy with the yellow bits and if I try and take them down to dark red (actually shaded with watered down flesh wash around the face) I'll lose it. Will see how it looks with more shading on the red.

It might be easier if I could find the picture that inspired the scheme in the first place. He's supposed to be painted like a flame: hot clear yellow at the bottom, red at the top.

Palatine Katinka
14-02-2008, 00:33
Could you make the upper parts of the helm kinda smoky looking? If you know what I mean... Start it turning to black.

de Selby
14-02-2008, 14:02
I can have a go. :)

I have added some more definition to the red armour. I think it looks better; good call McMullet. I think the contrast between light and shade on the legs (yellow orange) is now better matched to that of the upper body (red brown), which has kind of achieved the effect we were talking about of geting the level of shade the same. In fact, maybe that's what you meant (?). What a lot of words about a tiny amount of watery brown lining. :D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036174.jpg

Better? Worse? Same???

McMullet
14-02-2008, 15:14
Definitely better. :)

What I meant about the shading was that the shade in the deepest recesses should be as dark on the yellow areas as it was on the red. In retrospect you may be right that this would be a bit much. I would still think about a little more shade on the yellow though, perhaps lining the recesses with red or brown?

One other thing, the eyes could do with some more definition: As it is, the blue eyes don't really transition from the red very well. Blacklining around them (and the blue gems) might improve that.

de Selby
14-02-2008, 15:47
Cheers. I had trouble with the eyes; they are actually asymmetrical on the sculpt (ie one side of his face is quite different to the other). I did my best to 'correct' it with paint but you can see they still don't match up properly in pic 2 above.

Will see what I can do.

BishopBlack
14-02-2008, 20:26
The fade through the colors of red to yellow is seamless! your painting style is very clean cut, love it!
and thanks for your comment.

de Selby
22-02-2008, 14:30
Thanks BishopBlack. I dunno about seamless, but I'm quite pleased with it.

Haven't had much time to paint this week. I just about had time to try adding a little bit of brown shading to the yellow (can you even tell?) and try and darken the top of the helmet (smoke effect). Red into black is much harder than yellow into red :D

Was going to try and define the gems better, but I plain forgot. Sorry McMullet :D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036175.jpg


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036176.jpg

hiveminion
22-02-2008, 16:26
Wow that looks great! Very nice effect, very unique too! The transition (sp?) of colour is very well executed. Top job so far mate!

Ridicule
01-03-2008, 08:28
Awesome log! Truly inspiring :)

BishopBlack
02-03-2008, 16:28
Really good mate!

must admit that the smoke up top make him look even better.
A master piece is never finished? or is he?
jubbly stuff :D

de Selby
12-03-2008, 16:33
Thanks hiveminion, BishopBlack, glad you're still watching. Welcome aboard Ridicule!
Having you guys post over the last few weeks of inactivity has made me want to produce something to justify your attention, so thank you. Minor illness and lots of work has stopped me really achieving anything hobby-related for a month, but over the weekend I dug out the daemonic contingent from my old chaos undivided army, the first I built for 3rd edition. The advantage of bringing models out of the archive is that it looks like I've done more work than I have!

These guys have been mostly 'painted' for years, but I did some touch-ups and neatening up before I could show them here. I'll add some bloodletters and the new juggernaut rider when they come out. These still need more work, particularly the faces, as the paintjobs really don't live up to the brilliant models.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036177.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036179.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036180.jpg


I've told myself I can't have any Vampire Counts stuff until I finish the witch hunters, so I've really got to crack on!

BishopBlack
23-03-2008, 00:59
The colors are almost luminous! how the hell did you get em so bright?
photoshop? lol :D
Good work!
Bought any new miniatures recently?

de Selby
26-03-2008, 19:31
Picked up these 2nd hand a while back, just because I wanted to paint a mordor banner. Finally painted them last night.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036185.jpg




The colors are almost luminous! how the hell did you get em so bright?
photoshop? lol :D
Good work!
Bought any new miniatures recently?

Cheers! It's just a couple of thinned layers of paint over white undercoat, mostly, which makes them very bright and (I think) un-natural looking. Of course, the camera flash exaggerates this slightly. For example, the steeds are white<thin warlock purple<very thin red gore shading

I have been very restrained so far this year, so far as buying new stuff goes. I am at last making progress on the witch hunters in my sig. The last model I bought was an eldar farseer 2nd hand; the last model I bought that was a new release was the chapter masters set, which I still haven't got around to starting...

BishopBlack
26-03-2008, 21:45
Cheers! It's just a couple of thinned layers of paint over white undercoat, mostly, which makes them very bright and (I think) un-natural looking. Of course, the camera flash exaggerates this slightly. For example, the steeds are white<thin warlock purple<very thin red gore shading

Don't forget that Chaos has tainted them and that is exactly as I think they should look! dazzlingly bright, unearthly and great!

That Mordor banner is Heavy! Great freehand ;)

de Selby
27-03-2008, 16:37
:) Oh for sure, it's not like I'm going to go back and try and make them darker and more naturalistic. They look a bit OTT, but so does that whole army:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/koba_the_dread.jpg
(another archive mini).

Looking at the orc photo above made me notice how the captain's hand is the worst part of the min, so I went over it again. The camera flash really shows up stuff that isn't so obvious to the naked eye, so I tried again with natural light.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036190.jpg

Farseer next (and more sisters)! I'm going to try and use the muted colours from Alina's costume in this comic strip, we'll see how successful I am:
http://dresdencodak.com/cartoons/dc_046.html

G.Hawke
27-03-2008, 17:11
some very intresting scheme and models you have there, that dreadnought is paticularly unique, i must say

hawke

Deus Ruinus
01-04-2008, 16:25
nice... very interesting models and conversion, i like the tau stealth suits the most realy. well all your tau stuff i like the most realy.

de Selby
10-04-2008, 16:13
G.Hawke: cheers! 'Unique' was what I was aiming for. I figure I can make up for lack of skill with originality ;)

Thanks Deus Ruinius. I think the tau suited my tendency to simple functional paintjobs.

I have no time to paint at the moment. Last night I had a chance to slap some base colours on the Farseer to show you where he is going. This is a lovely (albeit incredibly tall) model and I'd have to work hard to screw him up.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036193.jpg

hiveminion
10-04-2008, 16:30
I noticed the Ork banner a while ago but forgot to leave a comment so I'll do that now, the eye on the banner is fantastic!

Can't wait to see what you'll be doing with that Farseer, so far so good!

de Selby
14-04-2008, 16:25
Thanks hivey, your wait is over ;)

I had some spare time Saturday night and Sunday (finally). Result: Farseer.
Pics next to my only other eldar model, to show off how ridiculously tall he/she is!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036198.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036194.jpg
Pic of the back to prove I painted it.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036195.jpg

hiveminion
14-04-2008, 17:00
Though standing on a piece of wraithbone helps, I can see what you mean regarding the height, it surely means he's from Dutch descent! :cool:

Great model, I particularly like the grey armour, it works very well with the brown and green. Nice highlighting too.

de Selby
14-04-2008, 18:30
Cheers, I'm glad the camera flash hasn't completely obliterated all the highlights! The third pic probably shows the tone of the model best, he's actually rather darker than he appears here.

Whether from craftworld Holland or not, there is something a little odd about the way he's standing on that wraithbone. It's like the sculptor intended to put one foot up on the end of the wraithbone and then changed his mind at the last minute. Anyway, still a great model.

I didn't intend for there to be so much grey, it just sort of... happened. Still quite pleased with how it turned out :)

rev
14-04-2008, 18:39
Like his green cloak, and the pastel style colours on the farseer - nice!

rev

de Selby
23-04-2008, 17:26
Just a quick update to show what arrived in the mail finally: a part assembled and painted (badly) DA battleforce, ~20 inc. P&P via ebay.

The robed bodies will go into my bits box ready for a future project, the rest of the DA bits, devastators, scouts and rhino (this will take the most work to fix up I think) will be used to jazz up my old SM force. Now I have the bits I've been waiting for I'll assemble my masters of the chapter set too.

:)


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036209.jpg

de Selby
28-04-2008, 14:44
Some progress over the weekend: I think I have salvaged the rhino.

I had to break off the badly-fifted hatches, but I'm tempted to put them back in the wrong way round (since the hinges are snapped off already). There's more interesting detail on what should be the inside. The colours will change, before anyone asks. What do we think?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/deSelby/S1036212.jpg