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Zapherion
24-05-2007, 14:31
Hey everybody. im thinking o starting a new bretonnia army. ive been playing fantasy for years but never really used heavy cavalry. spent a long time wit wood elves u see. ive drawn up the list below but i wouldnt mind a bit o help refining it. . Oh, and my regular opponent is VC who is obsessed with necros...hence all the magic defense. I have his basic list (because we share them), and sort o worked around that. Critisim would be very helpful Cheers guys

Bretonnian Lord 248 Pts
General; Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Grail Vow
Sword of the Lady's Champion
Virtue of Purity
Mantle of Damsel Elena

Damsel of the Lady 155 Pts
Magic Level 2
Staff of Sorcery

Damsel of the Lady 115 Pts
Magic Level 1
Dispel Scroll
Chalice of Malfleur

Damsel of the Lady 105 Pts
Magic Level 1
Dispel Scroll
Potion Sacre

Paladin Battle Standard Bearer 124 Pts
Heavy Armour; Battle Standard Bearer; Knightly Vow
Virtue of Duty
Wyrmlance

Paladin 130 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Knightly Vow
Birth-Sword of Carcassone
Virtue of Discipline

Paladin 125 Pts
Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Knightly Vow
Sword of Might
Virtue of the Joust

8 Knights of the Realm 241 Pts
Full Command
War Banner

8 Knights of the Realm 216 Pts
Full COmmand

8 Knights of the Realm 216 Pts
Full Command

25 Men-at-Arms 152 Pts
Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Full Command

25 Men-at-Arms 152 Pts
Halberd; Light Armour; Shield; Full Command

5 Mounted Yeomen 111 Pts
Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician

5 Mounted Yeomen 111 Pts
Light Armour; Shield; Standard; Musician

10 Peasant Bowmen 65 Pts
Villein

10 Peasant Bowmen 65 Pts
Villein

3 Pegasus Knights 195 Pts
Full Command

8 Grail Knights 384 Pts
Full Command
Valorous Standard

1 Field Trebuchet 90 Pts

DesertDirge
24-05-2007, 15:18
Not bad really. Somewhat character heavy though.

Zapherion
24-05-2007, 17:40
yea, might drop the lord n let the grail knights go it alone. but not really sure

DesertDirge
24-05-2007, 19:06
or keep the lord and drop a hero.

Zapherion
24-05-2007, 19:33
that was my other thought, but i had it immediatly after posting the previous comment :P maybe i shud think more before saying anything :)

Chimpeh
24-05-2007, 20:19
Hmmm have you considered the following wargear for your Battle standard bearer?

Paladin - Battle Standard Bearer
Hand Weapon, Heavy Armour. Warbanner, Virtue of Duty. Barded Warhorse.
Points -- 129

Any unit he joins gains +3CR -- might be useful if you really need to break an enemy unit on the turn you charge. The other bonus is that he only costs 5 points more than your current BSB.

brambleten
24-05-2007, 20:45
im pretty sure that in combat you cant use halberds and shields together so take one or the other. i suggest the halberds because i like strength 4 men because it annoys my opponents :evilgrin:

you said you have your main opponents basic list. what is it?

Chimpeh
24-05-2007, 21:17
im pretty sure that in combat you cant use halberds and shields together so take one or the other. i suggest the halberds because i like strength 4 men because it annoys my opponents :evilgrin:


Bretonnian Men-at-arms come equipped with a shield as standard. Besides imho even if you could remove the shield it'd still be worth keeping for several reasons:

First, you can always opt to use the hand weapon that Men-at-arms come equipped with for the additional +1 SV.

Second, the shield provides a extra armour from bowfire.

Zapherion
24-05-2007, 22:26
chimpeh, the idea is that the BSB joins the unit wit the war banner, but by giving it to the unit and not the paladin he can hav a magic weapon and in this case a lance. this gives me a powerful unit o knights on both sides o my line (war banner knights and grail knights) And yea about the shield lol.
To answer about his list, briefly:
Vampire Count
2 necromancers (level 2)
Thrall BSB
2 Skellie blocks (20 each)
3 Zombie Blocks (25 each)
Grave Guard (20)
9 Black Knights
2x 5 Wolves
8 Ghouls
3 Spirit hosts
Banshee
2 bat swarms
4 Fell bats

That basically. dont know the magic items, he changes them every time, but the book of arkan is normally there

Aldoran
25-05-2007, 15:46
Take at least one unit of Knights Errant. beeing Immune to Psy. on turn they charge they are no-brainer against VC.