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Mozzamanx
15-06-2007, 16:21
Ello, a quick modelling question for ya.

Ive got a pretty good conversion in my head for a flyrant, with lots of pieces added to it. Now, the Carnifex torso is probably gonna be used on it, but I started thinking- Is the carnifex torso too big to fly?

Thats basically all I wanted to know, and it would be a great help if i get any responses.

Thanks in advance (and feel free to move this if its in the wrong place)

Spacker
15-06-2007, 16:22
Too big? If a Harridan can fly, I don't think the fex body will be too much trouble :p

Dribble Joy
15-06-2007, 16:47
I have a CC nidzilla list, fluff being a carnifex brood. My flyrant is a slightly converted fex.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/Muffdemon/flyfex2.jpg

Rotated the hips and torso upwards, pretty simple. Head is about an inch or so higher than that of a normal fex.

Screamer-Killer:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/Muffdemon/screamerfex.jpg

Wrecker-fex:
Opposite to the flyrant, hips rotated down to get a lunging pose.
No it doesn't have enhanced senses, I just like that head.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j223/Muffdemon/wreckerfex.jpg

Still need to finish off some details like tounges, teeth and such.

studderigdave
15-06-2007, 16:54
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4r2cbv9

my quick flyrant i made on the fly for a game. uses mostly carnifex parts, and some greenstuff.

Mozzamanx
15-06-2007, 16:54
Ok, thanks for the advice guys.

@dribble joy- lovely nids, and in the EXACT same colour scheme, even down to the shades of green and brown :p

Meriwether
15-06-2007, 19:18
Honestly, almost nothing in the 40K model range (that is a critter) has wings large enough to fly, and none of them have that low toughness that would indicate hollow bones...

Meri the fizziks teacher

Subtext
15-06-2007, 21:18
Here is a picture of my friends flying Carnifex tha counts as a Flyrant.

http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/5/2/1/9/TyrasKillaBee.jpg

nightgant98c
15-06-2007, 22:34
A big body just needs big wings to provide lift. So get the biggest wings you can find.

swordwind
15-06-2007, 23:04
Honestly, almost nothing in the 40K model range (that is a critter) has wings large enough to fly, and none of them have that low toughness that would indicate hollow bones...

Meri the fizziks teacher

Maybe they have wierd alien bones that are both hard AND hollow?

One_Second_of_Insanity
15-06-2007, 23:25
balrog wings do the trick and now they are plastic, mind you i have the plastic dragon wings for mine

InquisitorNiels
15-06-2007, 23:29
Maybe it's the layers of hard caraprace that gives them a high toughness or their sheer body mass.

Frankly
15-06-2007, 23:59
Awesome work dribble joy.

thedreadpirate
16-06-2007, 00:11
On how it looks too big to fly, parts of its interior could be 'lighter than air.' Instead of hollow bones, they could have interior sacs filled with helium to help them lift off. If they did that enough, they could be 'neutrally bouyant' in atmosphere, and the wings are just for manuverability, not actual flight.

zealousheretic
16-06-2007, 01:14
@ Dribble Joy: Amazing work, those are really beautiful gribbly death monsters.

Feor
16-06-2007, 01:27
Recipe for a Flying Carnifex is easy:
Carnifex + Titan + princeps who played football in his Scholla. *punt*

More seriously, not knowing exact scales or how the model goes together, the new LotR dragon has some mighty nice wings on it.

Angelwing
16-06-2007, 02:29
Honestly, almost nothing in the 40K model range (that is a critter) has wings large enough to fly, and none of them have that low toughness that would indicate hollow bones...

Meri the fizziks teacher

Actually, all wings in ranges are too small for 'reality'. Its for practical reasons (cost and physical size) that they are modeled as they are.

Biomass Denial
16-06-2007, 05:29
And some of the fluff in the codex says that Fex tusks are laced with adamantine so logically the hivemind would evole hollow adamantine bones i think that would do for weight and strength

Vuron
16-06-2007, 05:53
Very nice work.

DarkSoldier
16-06-2007, 09:10
Instead of hollow bones, they could have interior sacs filled with helium to help them lift off. If they did that enough, they could be 'neutrally bouyant' in atmosphere, and the wings are just for manuverability, not actual flight.
Hydrogen or methane would be more viable than helium, which is created though radiaoctive decay or nuclear fusion, or found in small amounts in natural gas deposits.

This has been your daily dose of science. We now return you to your regularly scheduled forum thread. :D

Nice flyrants, fellas. I give them two thumbs up.

Feor
16-06-2007, 11:01
hehe, Tyranicus Gladius Avius Hindenburgus *BOOM*

gLOBS
16-06-2007, 11:30
Well not a carny Flyrant this is what I came up with using the fellbeast/balrog wings which I find look much better than dragon wings.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g314/PhunkyPhantom/Modelling/Picture003.jpg?t=1181993276

Mad Larkin UK
16-06-2007, 12:09
Loving those big nids all, is that yellowy black one a beetle fex? Looks awesome, but must have cost a bomb since its got like 4 back carapaces. So would that fly like a ladybird?

Subtext
16-06-2007, 12:30
Loving those big nids all, is that yellowy black one a beetle fex? Looks awesome, but must have cost a bomb since its got like 4 back carapaces. So would that fly like a ladybird?

Yeah, the design was inspired by a ladybug. But it was quite inexpensive. It only consists of a Carnifex Box, some spare plates from my other Fexes, Green Stuff, Milliput, and clear OCB rolling paper for the wings under the carapace. But it was a hell lot of fun for us to build that little Bastard, also it was a lot of work to cut of the Backplate of the Fex.

Here are some of the WIP-pictures:
http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/5/2/1/9/st3.jpg
http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/5/2/1/9/st2.jpg
http://www.tabletopwelt.de/forum/gallery/files/1/5/2/1/9/st1.jpg

Lab Monkey
16-06-2007, 12:33
Can't you make it like some beetle, with insect-like wings coming out of his carapace? Always thougth the batwings were weird.

Llynus
16-06-2007, 15:42
The size of the wings stuff doesn't matter, we don't know the gravitational field strength of the planets they're fighting on, or the composition of their atmospheres.

I personally like that carniflyrant more than the normal flyrants, congrats:D

Meriwether
17-06-2007, 16:53
Oy. All I was trying to say was, "make something that looks cool, and don't worry about the physics..." But, on that note, a carnifex with a gas sac the size of a to-scale hot air balloon would be pretty darn funny...