View Full Version : 2 questions Stubborn & DE Magic Banner

09-08-2007, 05:40
Hi there

I have two hopefully quick questions.

1. Do stubborn units still use their base Ld to test if they loose and are out numbered by a fear causing enemy?

2. Does the Banner of Kalad's (Mengil Manhide's Manflayers) modifiers against incoming shooting attacks work against Khemri skeleton archers?



09-08-2007, 06:26
1. No. Even stubborn units will automatically break if defeated by Fear causing enemy. Of course, "automatically" still allows you to roll the break test in hopes of rolling a double ones and pass thanks to the Insane Courage rule.

2. No. Tomb King archers always hit on 5+ regardles of modifiers.


09-08-2007, 07:02
That DE banner, dont be afraid of that unit. Its a tasty treat!

Seriously. Hit that unit so you can kill the BSB, hes one soft SOB at T3, W2 and next to no save :).

Doing 2 wounds on that T3 character is usually worth ~500 victory points.

09-08-2007, 07:52
But you can give your Black guard the extremely expensive fear causing banner (although they will just be screaming skull bait really). You're usually better off with more spearmen...

Don't forget another easy way of 'fear-proofing' your units is to put a character riding a cold one ine the unit.

As for the manflayers, they are not a great choice vs TK. Easy for them to hit and anything you kill can just be raised again... plus the horrible possibility of a scorpion popping up in cc with them. Leave your missile troops at home and bring your infantry hordes supported by dark riders to archer/war machine/hierophant hunt.

09-08-2007, 14:36
OK cheers guys