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Toschenko
16-08-2007, 15:15
EDIT: From now on this thread will be devoted exclusively to my Imperial Fists project - and the new name reflects this change. I've decided that opening a new thread would lead to the loss of all the recipes and painting advices I've been given through the progressing of the log (and the ones I gave, too) - so following Aulbath's advice I'm editing the first post and adding links to all the paintjobs I've finished until now, starting from the latest ones as the tactical squad will get a little revamp with the pigment weathering technique I've been experimenting and with I've finally started to get some good results.
Fists starts at page 13 IIRC and here I'm reporting the links to complete works, but there are a lot of WIPs and little distractions in the middle. Should you like what you see, please take the time to comment and/or criticize:

First sternguard veteran (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4841204&postcount=500)

Rhino for Tactical squad (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4763861&postcount=484)

Rhino interior (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4564779&postcount=428)

Scout squad with heavy bolter and count-as sniper rifles (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4722801&postcount=463)

Multi-Melta attack bike (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4502642&postcount=399)

AoBR tacticals (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3055574&postcount=307)

Tactical sergeant (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3070954&postcount=315)

Tactical demi-squad (first batch of pics) (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2907383&postcount=291)

Tactical demi-squad (second batch of pics) (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2907389&postcount=292)

Tactical demi-squad (third batch of pics) (http://www.warseer.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2907391&postcount=293)


/EDIT





first of all, I'd like to say hello to everyone

this is my first thread (although I've been a looong time lurker on this forum) and I decided to begin with a painting log to introduce myself (and my miniatures) to the warseer community...

I'm a sort of compulsive buyer of GW and non-GW stuff,so I have tons of yet unopened boxes of miniatures awaiting for some brush strokes, and (of course) I wish to use this log to force me painting some of them. I've a blood ravens and a vostroyan army for 40k, a dwarf army for WHFB, three (!) armies for Confrontation, a US Rifle Company for Flames of War, a guard army for Epic:Armageddon, a van Saar gang for Necromunda and a Cygnar army for Warmachine... and none of them are finished (well, actually most of the minias are bare metal...)

Ok, enough talking: let's see some pics!

These are the humble beginnings of my dwarf army... (humble because I own nearly 4000 points of the stunties, and this is what is currently painted...)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0524.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0523.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0522.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0519.jpg

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Killshot
16-08-2007, 15:18
Nice bases!

Toschenko
16-08-2007, 15:19
Some more

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0521.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0520.jpg

A closeup of the warrior champion:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0525.jpg

Then, what I'm working on now: a Pretorian platoon (for a friend of mine):

Test model:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0526.jpg

Toschenko
16-08-2007, 15:21
And his fellas:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0527.jpg

C&C are welcome!

P.S.: on the bases... I was thinking of returning to the usual PVA/sand mix, a light brown shade should make them pop a bit more... what do you guys think??

Crube
16-08-2007, 15:26
Loving the painting on these, although not sure about the lilac one...:)

As for the bases, Id be tempted to add some sand and static grass to the cobbles/paving, rather than changing them entirely.

Toschenko
16-08-2007, 16:30
@ Killshot: thanks, i didn't notice your reply before posting the second bunch of photos...

@ Crube: I'll try and post some pics in the next few days

Ok, now my Vostroyans:

Commissar (argh, I just noticed that I totally forgot to highlight the black... grrr)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0529.jpg

and the first (and only!) squad of the platoon:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0533.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0535.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0536.jpg

Toschenko
16-08-2007, 16:32
some more

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0537.jpg

a (crappy) closeup
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0538.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0539.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0541.jpg

Toschenko
16-08-2007, 16:34
and more

a better closeup of the vox-operator:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0542.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0543.jpg

the face of the heavybolterman:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0544.jpg

this should be mounted on a base similar to the heavy bolter one:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0545.jpg

Toschenko
17-08-2007, 12:25
A WIP picture of a winter camo Vostroyan trooper...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0532.jpg

Some time ago I was thinking of differentiating the two platoons of infantry making them differnt colors, but I nearly abandoned the idea... the winter camo takes too long for me to be achieved...

Luke
17-08-2007, 12:27
What a lovely clean style you have! So subcribed to this one! And I love those dwarves, the bases go great with them :)

The flesh on those vossies is incredible.

Crube
17-08-2007, 12:45
Ditto waht Luke said... really nice models.

I love the skin tone you have on those Vostroyans - care to share the recipe;)

Toschenko
17-08-2007, 13:00
Thanks for the replies, guys

@Crube: I used the recipe found on white dwarf on painting Vostroyans (for all the model, not only for the faces). I'll post it here anyway:

base tanned flesh
wash with 2 part tanned flesh and 1 liche purple mix
highlight with dwarf flesh
highlight with dwarf and elf flesh mix
final highlight with pure elf flesh

I also mixed the entire dwarf flesh pot with some drops of dark angels green (or it was catachan?), to contrast the "pinkness" of the color. If you try this I strongly suggest that you make some attempts before mixing the two colors in the pot (unless you have an entire army of greenskins to paint:D)

Crube
17-08-2007, 13:34
So the highlights involving Dwarf Flesh are actually Dwarf Flesh with a spot of Green in, right?

Toschenko
17-08-2007, 13:42
You're right. You can also use the dark green ink, the result is the same

Dino
17-08-2007, 15:13
Those dwarfs are amaizingly awsome. IMHO they look Golden demon worthy along with youre Vostroyans.

sigur
17-08-2007, 16:13
Cool stuff, I really like that clean painting style of yours. I should give the few drops of green in the Dwarf Flesh a try too.

One question though: What's up with the bending-over Praetorian? Isn't he feeling well?:) Or did you just fix him to the base for painting?

Toschenko
17-08-2007, 18:21
A side note: I took the hint of green/dwarf flesh mix from Jakob Rune Nielsen's website (I don't remember the exact URL but you can search for his name on google). He has also a nice tutorial on painting faces and skin in general

Now, the test for converting vostroyan rough riders:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0547.jpg

I'm not happy with the horse gas mask, I should file more the green stuff on the edge (maybe it was better to do this BEFORE priming :eyebrows:)

@sigur: yep, he is in that uncomfortable pose for painting!

edit: the yellow thingy on the base is not some new tyranid biological threat (a genestealer with a stomachache?), it's just the yellow part of green stuff (I ran out of blu-tack)

Crube
17-08-2007, 21:01
Thanks - I'll be giving it a try, and also looking up that website...

As for the Vossie R/Rider, i like it, although, maybe a little slimmer on the horses mask? Also, the gap between the horses head and his body seems a little rough if I'm being honest (and hyper critical...)

Still love the overall efffect :D

Toschenko
19-08-2007, 15:18
Yes, I was a bit over-enthusiast in priming him... I've not yet fixed what you are pointing out 'cause for now I left out the rough riders from my list: I used 6 of them in three games, and they managed to kill two marines (in total) even if they charged all the time...

As promised, I had a little work on a new test base. I'm quite pleased of the result, this one is a 40mm intended to go with a war machine (a cannon or organ gun)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0551.jpg

Sohuld I go with this basing style for all the others? C&C are always welcome!

Crube
19-08-2007, 15:28
I say the latest base.

Is the paving textured plasticard? or have you sculpted it on?

Either way, I like it, but I maybe would look at chamfering, or angling the edges of the paving slightlt. It looks a little like it's something just stuck on a base, it doesnt blend in to the base at the bottom.

It only becomes an issue, because the models that will sit on it will be so damn good, it may detract slightly.

Minor point but....

hallowed_are_the_ori
20-08-2007, 08:35
Love the base and your painting. LOVE your guardsman, post a tutorial!

Toschenko
20-08-2007, 11:24
@ Crube: I found the textured paving at a local hobby store, it is made of a sort of plastic that turns soft when heated up, and tend to break quite easily when you try to cut it. I see your point, but they are hard to work properly and since I only have a few sheets of this stuff, I really can't do experiments (I made the last base out of a broken piece, the sand covered corner was missing entirely). Moreover, I like the steep sloped edges more :D (well, it's a matter of personal taste here)

@hallowed_are_the_ori (and anyone else interested): here is the recipe I use to paint my vossies (sorry, no WIP pics, I'll take some the next time I paint one):

at first I do the metals:

1) boltgun metal base where needed (not drybrushed, keep your paint quite thin and try to leave a black line where the part you're painting joins another)
2) black ink wash (again it needs to be thin)
3) chainmail on the very edges. usually at this point I give another black ink wash on the rivets, joints and similar

second I do the golds (again, I don't drybrush the base):

1) brazen brass base
2) brown ink wash, insisting on the parts where you want the shadows to be
3) drybrush shining gold
4) restore the shadows where needed with brown ink, only in the recesses

third I do the skin, using the steps I gave in a previous post. The eyes are painted this way: paint carefully a black line on the eye, then paint it white leaving a thin black border. The pupils are made with a 005 soft tip pen: take care to put them in the upper half of the eye, leaving some white beneath (well, if there's enough space on the model)

fourth I do the red:

1) base with dark flesh
2) a coat with red gore, leaving the dark flesh in the recesses
3) blood red highlight (I build the red with many very thin coats, this is the most time consuming step in all the painting)
4) blood red/blazing orange mix highlight on the edges
edit: 5) red ink glaze, insisting more on the shadows

fifth I do the brown clothes (these are very basic, again keep your paint thin to blend all the coats):

1) base with scorched brown
2) coat of dark flesh, leaving the former color in the recesses
3) highlight with bestial brown

the lasrifle is simply scorched brown with thin lines of VERY thinned graveyard earth

the fur hat is entirely drybrushed:

1) scorched brown/ graveyard earth mix
2) graveyard earth
3) graveyard/bleached bone
4) bleached bone

If you're thinking that there are too many steps (for a guard army), well you're right! Though I love too much the vostroyan sculpts to paint them hastily :o

Hope this helps

Bluesabre
20-08-2007, 11:42
Love your stuff Toschenko, I may well pinch the basing idea for a future project. :angel:

Can't wait to see more stuff done :D

Toschenko
20-08-2007, 20:27
@Bluesabre: feel free to use all the ideas you may have visiting my log... I'll be pleased of that ;)

Now, to show you guys that I'm currently working on something (:p) I'm glad to introduce you a jump pack chaplain: he will go with my blood ravens:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0663.jpg

He is clearly part of the blood ravens chapter, because his shoulderpads are red!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0666.jpg

Two notes on painting: the camera and the light washed away the highlights on his armour, but I assure you the armour IS highlighted... Secondarily, I tried to work faster on this miniature to achieve at least a "tabletop quality" appearance (well, compared to my other minis, in which I put a lot more effort)

Luke
20-08-2007, 23:20
I believe you :p


That bronze trim is great, really suits the look of the model, not glaring and in your face but still hard-as-nails. And such subdued reds as well, I really like 'em.


All that bone om the front though, looks a little overwhelming on what is quite a dark model.

Toschenko
21-08-2007, 13:43
Actually the grey highlights on the armour help a bit to contrast the darkness of the model, and the garment is a more warm tone than the chest (even if in the picture they seem pretty similar), but I have to agree with you.
I decided to go with the worn white garment because I wanted the chappy to be dark (he is a marine chaplain after all) but with a nice contrast. I couldn't use red because this way I had to change the winged skull colour (one of the feature I'm most satisfied in this mini), and I didn't want to use a fourth colour. The chest and helmet colour is mandatory (well, it's bone after all :D) so my choice was pretty much obliged.

Maybe I can go with a bone or red power fist? Any thoughts will be appreciated!

BTW, thank you for pointing that out!

Crube
21-08-2007, 14:16
I actually quite like the bone on the front (just to be contrary :p) but maybe doing the power fist instead would be more 'inkeeping'

As ever, top stuff, and very inspiring - thanks

ekxw
21-08-2007, 14:22
ok here i go, the painting its great but, i see only one problem, and thats that you didnt wash the metals with a mix of black + water,

ry it on one dwarf and you will see the diferrence,

also if you wash the gold metal with scorched brown+water and latter with black +water, it will take a dark aspect that will help you a lot, or so i think,

and if you want to make some details like unions on metal ribets and so try for the gold goblin green and turquoise, it really works

Bluesabre
21-08-2007, 14:27
Your "Tabletop" quality is at the high end of that scale to be sure, nice work.

And how could anyone doubt his chapter od origin with that red...;)

Toschenko
21-08-2007, 15:27
Thanks for the feedback guys. Well, let's get into this:

@Crube: */Homer voice mode ON*/ d'oh! Do you (and everyone who's willing to help) think I can do only a part of the fist (say, the most part of the glove, leaving fingers black)?

@ekxw: the metals are actually inked with brown as the final step, but I admit that the pictures are not the best. I'm having some issues with light in taking pictures, so the metals may look more shiny than they really are. BTW, I might have a try with the black wash

@Bluesabre: people asked me to what chapter he belongs, and I fear they'll continue unless I field him with his painted fellows! :D

edit: ehm, I realized that I said all the above with Homer's voice... better to turn it OFF

re-edit: done some work on the cannon frame. Actually it's still missing some highlights on the brownish red but I think it's coming up well (light and glossy ink really don't go well together, the lower part of the weels are as detailed as the upper one):

EDIT: WIP pics removed, the finished job is at page 3

One question though: should I go with a bronze metallic tone on the frame, or with a steel one? I'm asking since I don't know yet how to paint the gun itself. So the choice is:

1. bronze on frame and steel on gun
2. steel on frame and bronze on gun
3. bronze or steel on both frame and gun
4. anything else I'm not considering

As ever, every comment is much appreciated

Toschenko
22-08-2007, 11:38
Sooo... no comments?
(sorry for double posting :(, but I have nearly finished the red on the cannon and I need some advice... will post pics as I complete the highlight)

Arhalien
22-08-2007, 11:42
Beautiful painting, lovely and smooth :)
The flesh on the dwarves looks to me a tad flat, but otherwise, very nicely done :)

Toschenko
22-08-2007, 18:23
@Arhalien: yes, with the notable exception of the lord and the runesmith the other dwarves have less shading and colour depth. Quite some time ago I decided to try to finish at least an army :rolleyes:, and my choice were the dwarves, so the rank&file troops are less detailed to reduce painting time (I'm not going this way with the vostroyans, as I'm painting them individually :eek:)

Sorry, only a pic of the finished red on the cannon frame, as photobucket seems to dislike the others. As you can see I started also repainting the black:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0699.jpg

As usual the highlights are a bit washed away, tomorrow I'll try to take some pics with natural light

Crube
22-08-2007, 21:28
My personal thought would be for steel on the carriage and the barrel...but that's just my personal preference.

Oh., and I think the bone on the last model was great, very nicely painted - no criticism was intended ;)

Toschenko
24-08-2007, 07:42
Thanks Crube! I tried the all steel way, but after completing half of the carriage I realized that I didn't like it too much :eyebrows: ... so I've decided to go with a more or less subtle verdigris effect on bronze, either for frame and gun (I know that dwarves are supposed to be cleaning maniacs with their war machines but hey, I want to paint some verdigris :p)

Pics to follow, maybe in the evening (more realistically tomorrow :rolleyes:)

Toschenko
25-08-2007, 18:38
A little update: yesterday we had 38°C with humidity at 95%, so I had to stay away from any heat source... such as my desk lamp (next year I'm going to spend my holidays in hell, just to get some fresh air...)

Today I worked a little on the cannon, I nearly finished the gun barrel:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0716.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0718.jpg

Still some work to do on that big screw which lifts up the gun, and some fixes here and there (mostly the rune in the center, which was a failed attempt).

What do you think?

Arhalien
25-08-2007, 19:04
Me likey ;)
The corrosion on the bronze is excellent; very realistic :)

Lovely work.

Light of the Emperor
25-08-2007, 19:10
I really like your painting style. I'm amazed at how well you can paint eyes! That skill has always eluded me.

I really like the bases but agree with what Crube said. A bevelled edge will work wonders.

Toschenko
26-08-2007, 00:02
@Arhalien: thank you, but it was really a five minutes work... base with brazen brass (a coat, not drybrushed), wash with diluted scaly green and drybrush all over again with brazen brass. Then you may touch up shadows with the scaly green wash, or you may want to add some vertical streaks. Not difficult at all

@Light of the Emperor: you should really give a try at the 005 soft tip pen trick... obtaining good pupils with a brush is really difficult. And, looking at that base again, I have to agree with you (and Crube, of course!) that it could be improved. I'll try to sort out something... oh, and I really loved your vostroyans BTW, yours was one of the threads I followed with more interest, I'm glad to have you here

Then, no updates until monday 27 as the warseer server should be shut down (if I can remember correctly), hopefully I'll be back online with the finished cannon and some work on the third crew member... stay tuned

Bluesabre
26-08-2007, 02:11
The fine point art pens are always handy for doing eyes, I agree with this one totally =D

Luke
26-08-2007, 11:01
Hey I love the verdigris on the barrell. Very authentic.

Toschenko
28-08-2007, 16:28
Thanks Luke. I'm quite pleased of the result, as this is my first attempt at doing verdigris

Ok, now it's time for some... WIPness! today I had very little time for painting, but I managed to get the cannon almost done:

EDIT: WIP pics removed, you can see the completd job just scrolling down

This is a bit over exposed, but at least it shows the red:

I have still to touch up some bugs, shadows, and generally give definition with a very selective torquoise wash. Oh, and I forgot to paint the hubs on wheels, they are not supposed to be black (I forget to paint something on almost every damn mini I do!).
You'll notice that some red parts look a bit grainy: this is due to drybrushing the metal, but with some strokes with a clean brush and some matt varnish it should go away

Sorry for all those WIP pics, I'll remove them once I finish the painting job...

As ever, C&C is appreciated!

Chaos_Minds
28-08-2007, 16:40
Very nice work. I love how the cannon looks like it actually is made of brass!

Toschenko
29-08-2007, 11:18
@Chaos_Minds: yep, a Khornate cannon, but without blood!

Here are some pics of the finished job: I'd like to know what do you think, and if you can spot something that can be improved (ok, something that desperately needs improvement... as I have sooo much minis to paint) please tell me. I'm quite pleased of how it looks now, it's clearly a game model, but at least is a good one!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0737.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0740.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0745.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0746.jpg

Maybe I can go with this worn look not only with war machines, but even with dwarves: this technique is reasonably fast and gives good results.

A note on the base: I'm working to fix what Crube and Light of the Emperor pointed out, so the cannon will sit on his base when I'll finally post the group shot with all the crew

Toschenko
29-08-2007, 12:41
Here is a close detail of the handle: I'm pleased with the result, it seems to have stayed under water for ages

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0744.jpg

This is a close view of another detail, as you may notice I added vertical streaks to enhance the worn and aged look:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0747.jpg

As always, I had problems with lights in taking photos. Maybe I should get a tripod, and go with slower exposure times to get a more natural look

Feel free to comment! :D

Toschenko
01-09-2007, 16:02
Sorry, no updates on dwarves as this month I'm going to have two exams... but to keep you interested in my log I'm posting... my FoW americans! (well, the few models I've painted). These are my first attempt at doing 15mm minis... they're fun to paint, though!

Here we go:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0763.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0764.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0765.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0774.jpg

Toschenko
01-09-2007, 16:04
Two shermans, my all time favourite tank!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0779.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0769.jpg

I played a bit with camera settings, so these photos should show more realistically the colours...

C&C are welcome!

Toschenko

Arhalien
01-09-2007, 19:37
Excellent painting :)

Bluesabre
02-09-2007, 15:44
Hey, very nice FoW stuff.

Toschenko
03-09-2007, 08:14
Thanks for the replies and for good comments!

These days I have to dedicate myself to other things (damn university), but I have a small bunch of painted miniatures awaiting on the shelf for some pics so, here they are!

These are my blood ravens: painted quite some time ago and mostly with a speedy drybrush, so please be polite!

At first, scouts:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0781.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0782.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0783.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0784.jpg

The flesh is a bit flat... but the sergeant has a nice beard effect. If you spot some metal flashing here and there the paint is not chipped, I gave them a worn look (mainly to cover defects)

Toschenko
03-09-2007, 08:16
We continue with their battle-big-brothers:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0786.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0788.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0789.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0790.jpg

The chapter badge is actually made of a dark angel decal, cut and painted over. Not so keen on this, but it's fast!

Toschenko
03-09-2007, 08:19
More:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0800.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0792.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0797.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0794.jpg

Here and there you can spot some battle damage (I know, it's hard to see)

As always, feel free to comment!

Arhalien
03-09-2007, 10:54
The weathering on the armour is very nicely done; subtle but effective :)
The faces on the scouts are also very well done.

Good work :)

Crube
03-09-2007, 10:59
Lovely stuff as ever...

one question, back to the cannon (sorry, but I've been away...) - You mention a selective Turquiose wash. Where, how, why, etc?

Toschenko
03-09-2007, 11:14
@Arhalien: thanks mate, but the faces look much better in the pics than in real life...

@Crube: the torquoise wash is a very diluted one (maybe it's more similar to a glaze), and was used to reinforce deeper shadows (around rivets, for example) after the second selective wash of green. A friend of mine gave me this tip, it works wonder. So, the bronze/brass is achieved in this way:

1. brazen brass
2. scaly green wash all over
3. brazen brass drybrush
4. scaly green wash, more selective, to restore and strenghten shadows
5. hawk torquoise glaze, only in the very recesses

Hope this helps

Toschenko

hallowed_are_the_ori
04-09-2007, 01:34
I really like your marine scouts, very nicely painted!

Toschenko
05-09-2007, 14:35
@Hallowed_are_the_ori: thanks for your comment!

I did some work on the third crewman, here's a pic showing the progress:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0812.jpg

I gave some more depth to skin (sadly I found difficulties in taking a pic which shows his face, but you can take his hands as a reference) and went for the weathered look on metallics, though it's all still WIP. I'll put a little more emphasis on the verdigris towards the end

Got comments? Thoughts? Criticism? Post 'em!

Toschenko

P.S.: oh, and as always I forgot to paint something... a cookie for the first who spots it

Bluesabre
05-09-2007, 17:12
Ummm, the rest of his hammer and the iron rings on his belt?

Looks good still, hurry up and get him finished.

Toschenko
06-09-2007, 15:18
Ummm, the rest of his hammer and the iron rings on his belt?

No, it was the small bronze disc on his left shoulder (I know, it was hard to see, you won half of a cookie for trying BTW :D)

Here is the crewman finished:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0823.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0824.jpg

The green stuff on the cannon base is setting, as soon as I can I'll post pics of the completed warmachine (finally!) and remove all WIP photos.

Let me know what do you think!

Toschenko

Toschenko
07-09-2007, 14:22
Update time!

Here are the pics of the finished cannon::D

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0830.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0831.jpg

The crew, in all its glory:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0833.jpg

The cannon base now looks WAY better, thanks to Crube (and Light of the Emperor, of course).

Toschenko

The_Dark_Raven
07-09-2007, 15:25
WOW,

you do have some very nice models and some great skills to go with them. I really like the way you base and paint the overall model results are awesome, i don't know how you do it but boy you do it well.

Crube
07-09-2007, 15:42
Fantastic :D

One thing in the cannon though ( and I am being REALLY REALLY picky here - I mean extremely picky...) is that it seems to be sitting up on the base, as though there's no weight to it. I think it's because the wheels are atached to the base where one of the spokes attaches to the wheel, rather between where 2 join, if that makes sense...

anyway, top drawer stuff as normal, Sir :D

Toschenko
07-09-2007, 17:13
Fixed :D

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0834.jpg

Crube, you really must have some form of bionic sight... your criticism is very appreciated!

Toschenko

EDIT: out of interest, anyone knows how wide the base of an exalted daemon should be? 50 mm I think....

Light of the Emperor
07-09-2007, 18:04
Perfect!

GW has 60mm square bases don't they?

Toschenko
07-09-2007, 18:12
I purchased Belakor, and he comes with a 50mm base... I'd like to use him to model an exalted daemon, but I don't know if there are some limits for the base width, since I'm asking.

Thanks to everyone for these kind comments!

Toschenko

Toschenko
09-09-2007, 21:46
I'll give you a clue of what I'm currently working on...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0836.jpg

Obviously stll very WIP, but I'd like to know your comments on the rusty appearance on the pick... it could work?

As you may notice, I'm trying a white undercoat: I discovered that metallics looks a lot better over a white base

Toschenko

mangustheix
09-09-2007, 22:27
The painting is very neat, really helps make everything stand out. The dwarf warriors are some of the best i have ever seen!

The rust seems a little watery, it should be more solid in my opinion. it fades out too much

ssorck
09-09-2007, 22:34
You have a lot of projects cooking!

Love the metal on the cannon - great stuff

Toschenko
09-09-2007, 22:54
@mangustheix: thanks, I'll try to strenghten a bit the rust colour. Oh, and i like your tau :D!

@ssorck: thank you. I'm struggling to finish at least one... :p

Toschenko

mangustheix
09-09-2007, 23:30
You sound like me, I have so many armies at one time that i can keep myself interested in at least 1

ekxw
09-09-2007, 23:35
im interested in the way to make that rust on the metals, i need something like that.

amd great canon i like also the rust in the bronce.

uhmm aonther thing i think you could be interested in this tip, a friend of mine have beeing trying new ways of paint look this rust.

http://fotos.subefotos.com/657a5580e4812b50ce4926e701b521cco.jpg
http://usuarios.lycos.es/paulvalenx/images/oxido12.jpg

Toschenko
10-09-2007, 00:03
@mangustheix: yeah, never heard of someone like us :p!

@ekxw: ok, you have my attention. That rust is really really impressive, please can you ask your friend the recipe :D? Although I was looking for something less complex for the miners (as they are rank&file troops) I may use that for something else (namely my guard tanks...).

I'll try something for tomorrow, now I'm a bit of a walking dead, so I'm going to bed.

*turns himself off*

Toschenko

Toschenko
10-09-2007, 14:42
I've played a bit with colours and brushes :p:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0843.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0841.jpg

Now he's got a very rusty weapon, maybe I've overdone it...:rolleyes:

I was tempted to finish with a light drybrush of chainmail, but seeing my reference pictures I noticed that bare metal doesn't show over the rust... so mine should be more realistic, even if ekxw's friend has achieved a (far) better looking one.

Comments or suggestions?

Toschenko

EDIT: yay, 75th post! I've been promoted!

Toschenko
11-09-2007, 13:19
No responses, eh? I have to think that my work is nearly perfect :p

Seriously speaking, I'm working on the test miner, pics should be online soon. I was wandering on the net, and eventually I came on the gamezone website: they produce some nasty dwarf miners, and some of them are depicted as they emerge from a hole in the ground! I own enough miners (20) to purchase others, but I saw this :

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/394_1.jpg

and an idea suddenly struck my mind: unit filler! Maybe I can model something similar on a 40mm base, to represent the hole from which the miners came out. What do you think of it?

Toschenko

Crube
11-09-2007, 13:54
Like the rust effect you have on the miner's pick, although as you say, maybe a tad too much... not by a great deal, but...Still, .looking ace as normal, although I am surprised to see you work from a white undercoat...

Although I like the rust that ekxw posted, I do think it would be a bit overkill, not only on a rank and file model, but also on a dwarf... i dont think any dwarf worth his salt would let his equipment get in that state...

I love the idea of a unit filler like you describe... maybe even convert a dwarf half out of the ground too....

ekxw
12-09-2007, 22:13
hi pal, now i have some troble reading, eyes problems you know? XD

but tomorrow i will put the recipe, if i could translate it properly.

Toschenko
12-09-2007, 22:16
@Crube: thanks for your feedback. On the subject of white undercoat, it passed too much since the last time I've used it, but enough to let me forget how I hate it! I simply can't do well starting from white!

The test model has come out in a fashion I don't like, so I swapped again to black and started another :rolleyes:. It gave me the opportunity to try another technique for rust, and this time it came out much better (IMO) and realistic.

Pics:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0851.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0852.jpg

I think that this should be the look of a pick used for ages... let me know what you guys think.

In case you were wondering, rust is achieved this way:

1. coat of boltgun metal (the basecoat of the pick)
2. wash with a rather dense (for a wash) red gore + black mix (I mean, the mix should be more dense than an ink but less dense than a normal colour)
3. add vermin brown to the mix and paint the hollows
4. go with pure vermin brown
5. mix vermin brown + bubonic brown for the final highlights.

Remember that rust start to develop from the hollows, and turns lighter as time passes: so you should paint the inner parts with lighter colours, leaving the darker on the boundary of rust patches (ok, in the pics above you can't see this, as light reflected by metal tend to wash out the highlights...)

I admit that I really can't speak your language, so should you have problems in understanding my ravings just tell me and I'll try to explain myself better :p!

I'm waiting for your comments before I start batch painting, so keep 'em coming!

Toschenko

Palatine Katinka
13-09-2007, 00:57
The rust looks great but maybe slightly too light a shade. Also, I'm not sure if Dwarfs would let their weapons get rusty, prob'ly got runes against that sort of thing, they seem to have runes against everything else! :p

Seriously though, the Dwarfs look great, as do the Marines. The cannon came out really well.

Shadow-Under-Rock
13-09-2007, 06:40
I canīt find anything to complain about. everythig looks great.

Crube
13-09-2007, 10:29
The rust looks great to. Just a nice surface coat of rust, rather than a really rusty, neglecgted pick...

I do agree though, that I dont feel the dwarfs would let their tools get even a slight bit of rust or damage on...


Very nicely painted though...:)

Toschenko
13-09-2007, 22:19
@ekxw: no problem mate, I can wait. I hope you can get well soon...

@Crube and Palatine Katinka: ok, ok, you don't like my rusty dwarfs :p... seriously, I agree with you that dwarfs won't let their weapons to get so dirty and worn, but I liked the idea of doing something different with them... Maybe rust is a bit too much (although I'll go with the corrosion effect at least on all warmachines), do you think I can go with a bronze colour (like that of the helmet) for the pick? The steel is preponderant on the rest of the mini, so I won't paint it with such a colour.

@Shadow-Under-Rock: thanks!


Ok, this is the finished test miner, not too bad for a rank&file model:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0861.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0859.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0855.jpg

I tried to copy the scheme that colin dixon used in the 6th edition army book, painting them only with different shades of brown. For the candle, credit for the recipe goes to ekxw: thank you mate

As always, C&C are well accepted: I'm preparing the rest of the unit for undercoat, so I should begin to work on it tomorrow (hopefully).

Toschenko

EDIT: hey, my thread has got five stars! yuuuhu!

Palatine Katinka
14-09-2007, 00:18
Don't get me wrong, the rust looks great, as long as I don't think about it! It really is a nice effect you've got.

Crube
14-09-2007, 10:59
I love the rust, the way it's been painted is top notch....

As for the model as a whole, great as normal. Truly marvellous flesh tone you have :)

The_Dark_Raven
15-09-2007, 03:08
very cool model, i like the face and eye the most, really brings the model to life.

mrtn
15-09-2007, 08:54
Nice to see these old stunties, keep up the good work. :)

ekxw
15-09-2007, 10:43
uhmm great job there, uhmm

and just one thing put a darker color in the fingers gap to add the final touch.

about the rust, this is a translation that paulvalex sayd

-base color, bolter metal , around two layers over black basecoat
- uhmm wash with vallejo smoke ref939, this have some bits of metal

-without letting it dry, aply some talco dust(its used for babys a white dust) , you will let some weird mix but dont care.

-aply the hairdryer to dry the mix and wash with orange browns and yellow ink .

-put some spots with bolter metal

.and paint a small line with mithril silver on the points near the end of the surface.

Toschenko
15-09-2007, 14:04
Thanks to everyone for the feedback! Sorry, no updates for now as I hadn't time to work on the miners... On as side note, would you like to see WIP pics or just the finished job?

Ok, let's post some replies...

@Palatine Katinka and Crube: I got your point, I was just joking... :p. I think that, despite the fluff, I'll go on painting rust on miners' weapons, as I quite like the general "in action" feel the miniatures get with this technique. Time will tell if I'll use it on other, more "king representative", units (longbeards and hammerers comes to mind). I think not.

@The_Dark_Raven and mrtn: thank you guys. And yes, most of my dwarves are metal models from the 6th edition range, I recently purchased just the new warriors (as the old plastic ones were terrible...)

@ekxw: thanks for the recipe, I'll try this when I'll finally paint the leman russ I assembled and primed months ago... :eyebrows:. As for the darker tone between fingers you are right, I'll add some scorched brown in the gaps.

Toschenko

Crube
15-09-2007, 14:06
Fair enough Toschenko :D

I would seriously think about not doing it on higher ranking models though...I'm gald to see you currently think not.

mangustheix
15-09-2007, 19:21
That miner is fantastic. the skin looks photorealistic and the candle is great. I love the green on the helmet, very characterful.

Toschenko
17-09-2007, 21:51
Mmmh, my log fell on second page, I have to do something :D... but I don't have pics of the finished miners yet (although I'd post some pics tomorrow!). So, before you lynch me, I'll throw some pics of an experiment I made some time ago (well, not so long, it was the past month...). A confrontation mini, painted starting from a white base and using rackham colors, with the various tones obtained mainly adding black or white to the base color (so it's slightly far from my usual style)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0866.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0864.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0865.jpg

Thus, another unfinished mini. Maybe I'll start a log in which I'll finally paint the enormous load of them I got on my desk!

Oh, and cheers for the comments!

Toschenko

Discover&See
17-09-2007, 23:37
looking really nice and neat there!!! the yellow legs look really good nice depth to the yellow!
the blue shirt, highlighting looks good :)
the skin is nice however it lacks tone really so add some sort of red glaze to show warmth in the skin, or blue glaze for shading skin in the areas light does not hit, other than that keep up the good work there!!!!!

Best regards
Discover&See.

The_Dark_Raven
18-09-2007, 03:13
i really like that model, very sweet sword. As for the painting, awesome...the shirt and skin look great and the use of yellow on the hair,symbol and knees shows the level of painting you are at, able to bring the model up in looks with placing of colour.

Sweet job man,:D

Toschenko
18-09-2007, 10:29
looking really nice and neat there!!! the yellow legs look really good nice depth to the yellow!
the blue shirt, highlighting looks good
the skin is nice however it lacks tone really so add some sort of red glaze to show warmth in the skin, or blue glaze for shading skin in the areas light does not hit, other than that keep up the good work there!!!!!

Best regards
Discover&See.

Ehmm, I fear I'm missing something :confused: (your irony maybe? :p). The yellow on the legs and on the symbol is only at basecoat stage, I just layered it with many (many) coats of rackham yellow. It's the first stage of a NMM bronze that I wanted to try for the first time, actually the only finished parts are the skin, the vest and the hair. I agree with you that the skin needs some improvement, I plan to play with some glaze here and there towards the end.


i really like that model, very sweet sword. As for the painting, awesome...the shirt and skin look great and the use of yellow on the hair,symbol and knees shows the level of painting you are at, able to bring the model up in looks with placing of colour.

Sweet job man,:D

Yes, rackham minias are the best around, period. As for the color choice, I just copied the rackham studio one...:p but I'm glad you like the painting!

Pics of the first six miners to follow soon,

Toschenko

konrad
18-09-2007, 11:25
Liking the Dwarf Miner. And the what seems to be drunken guy. :)

Discover&See
18-09-2007, 13:07
well ift's only at base coat then thats probably natural light sourcing :P my fault lol well hurry up and do some more to it!!!!!!

Best regards
Discover&See.

Crube
18-09-2007, 13:09
Very nice blue colour there, although I may be the one dissenting voice and say I actually dont like the miniature itself that much...

Toschenko
20-09-2007, 15:12
Uff... at last, an update!

These are the first six miners: Next I'll do the champion (alone), then the standard bearer and musician, and finally the two last miners. In no way I'm going to start batch painting again minis that are all the same color! At least with the warriors I had some variety...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0877.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0878.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0879.jpg

Sorry, pics are a bit blurry.

@Konrad, Discover&See and Crube: thanks for the replies. Crube, you're the first person I hear who don't like that mini... :eek:

As usual, C&C are welcome

Toschenko

Arhalien
20-09-2007, 15:22
Crube, you're the first person I hear who don't like that mini... :eek:


I don't like it either I'm afraid to say; nicely sculpted but the posing is just terrible, especially the way the feet point inwards for no apparent reason.
You've painted it beautifully so far though :)

Very nice miners as well :)

Toschenko
20-09-2007, 15:33
the posing is just terrible, especially the way the feet point inwards for no apparent reason.

Many rackham miniatures have weird poses (look at the keltois fiannas, one holds an insanely large sword behind her back as it has no weight :cool:): this in particular represents a drunk jailor who struggles to stand on his feet, so i think the posing isn't out of place... generally speaking, I love nearly all rackham sculpts, except the early ones.
BTW, it's (as always) a matter of taste!

Toschenko

Arhalien
20-09-2007, 15:43
I know exactly what you mean; in the same way I'm not particularly fond of som PP minis; I just prefer Games Workshop's style of models.
That said, it's nice to look at Rackham minis from time to time just for a chance :)

I also agree on Rackham's older minis; some of them are just dire

Toschenko
20-09-2007, 16:11
Maybe you'll like some more rackham WIPness...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0883.jpg

Actually only the lower part of the model is finished... I was trying to make a dogs of war orks warband (pardon, orcs), before I realized that no one at my club played the game :rolleyes:. I was into confrontation before it turned in a silly game (as ever, IMHO) with a new uber powerful model out each month and the early models becoming unplayable as they were too weak... so I don't know if these models will see the light one day (read: will get finished). I have too many GW miniatures to paint, but some day I may put the brush on a rackahm one, just for that good feeling it gives :D:p

Toschenko

EDIT: woohoo, 100th reply!

Toschenko
21-09-2007, 11:33
Sorry, no pics for today, but I have an update: now I have a deadline!

In november my club will organize a fantasy RTT tournament, with 2000 points limit. I've decided that participating with a fully painted army (or at least a nearly fuly painted one :D) will be my goal until then. So, this is the list of things I have to paint:

- 5 more miners, plus unit filler
- 10 BfSP thunderers, next in the painting line
- 10 quarrellers
- the dreaded cheesy thing (a.k.a. the anvil of doom :cheese:)
- 2 bolt throwers, new style ones
- an organ gun
- 19 hammerers (I plan to paint 13 plus a unit filler for six slots)
- a master engineer

It's pretty heavy on warmachines, but these are faster to paint, so...

Wow, now that I wrote down the list, it seems longer than I expected... :eyebrows:, better to get my brushes now...

Toschenko

Crube
21-09-2007, 12:06
Lovely miners (although it may jusyt be the picture, but the second from the left.. the beard seems a little flat in colour....


I am seriously looking forward to you painting the Anvil - one of my favourite Dwarf models...

Oh, and the WIP Rackham-ness - hard to tell. Nicely painted as ever so far, but... difficult to say

Good luck in getting everything ready for the tournament - I know what painting to deadline is like - i took part in Warseer's first tale of 8 gamers thingy - If you want to have a look (http://warseer.com/forums/warseer-s-tale-of-eight-gamers-fantasy-edition/11011-the-tale-of-crube-s-foray-into-the-sacred-glades-of-the-wood-elves.html)... It can be very frustrating and at the same time very rewarding.

Toschenko
23-09-2007, 16:50
Today there's an update with the prospector:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0892.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0885.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0888.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0886.jpg

Probably not my best mini, but I must sacrifice something if I want my army finished in time...

There's something you would change or improve? Let me know and I'll do what I can.

Toschenko

EDIT: thanks for the link Crube, reading your thread has been of inspiration. As for the beard, I don't know why it turned out so flat, even if the pic is a bit blurred so it makes things look worse....

Crube
23-09-2007, 17:02
Thank you Sir :D

2 things on the Prospector

1. The leather on the gloves is lovely - I'm guessing a snakebite leather base coat, but from there...?

2. The candle. The base of it looks a little rough, compared to your normal levels. Also, it's a little white. These may be due to the picture, but of not, than I'd prefer a slightly more yellowy candle

Just my 2p worth...

:D

Toschenko
23-09-2007, 17:10
The candle is the same color and texture of the others (I put side by side the prospector and another miner, they seem identical in real life), probably it's the picture ;)

The gloves are painted this way:

1. calthan brown base
2. glaze with brown ink
3. highlight with snakebite leather (good eye here :p)
4. highlight with a snakebite/vomit brown 50/50 mix
5. highight with pure vomit brown only on the very raised edges

Hope this helps

Toschenko

Light of the Emperor
26-09-2007, 03:09
I love the painting style...so crisp and clean. Especially the skin!

Saulot
26-09-2007, 03:58
Very impressive minis Toschenko! Just echoing everyone's praises on the smoothness of your painting!

Btw, any more samples of the style you used with the drunken jailor? Adding just black or white depending on the shade seems very simple. Wanted to see more samples on how it looks.

Hope you keep on posting! The Dwarfs are such a joy to look at! ;)

Toschenko
26-09-2007, 09:41
I love the painting style...so crisp and clean. Especially the skin!


Very impressive minis Toschenko! Just echoing everyone's praises on the smoothness of your painting!

Hey, that's some serious ego boosting! Thank you guys! :D


Btw, any more samples of the style you used with the drunken jailor? Adding just black or white depending on the shade seems very simple. Wanted to see more samples on how it looks.

Sorry, that mini is a stand-alone. I purchased the rackham color starter set to give it a try (I found the mini inside the box) and the use of black and white for shading/higlighting is due to the limited color palette I had (IIRC the starter set comes with only two shades of blue, one similar to GW ice blue and one to GW midnight blue, and only one color suitable for flesh). This method may be quite simple, but in order to produce a smooth blending you have to progress very slowly with the highlighting, using many thin coats. I'll give it another try for some future painting contest (as I love to experiment), but painting an entire army that way may drive you MAD!


Hope you keep on posting! The Dwarfs are such a joy to look at! ;)

Thanks again, mate! And hell, sure that I'll keep on posting! Some pics of the rest of the command group should be online this evening or tomorrow, I'm progressing slowly but that damn university requires nearly all my body and mind...:p

Toschenko

Discover&See
26-09-2007, 10:34
indeed the skin is nice! and the beard looks quite realistic :) the gold is good overall good quality model! keep up the good work!
(does anyone know if somethings wrong with the post count? sry to go off topic just noticed)

Best regards
Discover&See.

TYRANOODLE
26-09-2007, 21:38
Seriously, those models look sweeter than the eavy metal ones.

Bon Apetit

Toschenko
27-09-2007, 22:34
Thanks to everyone for the kind comments!

Finally I managed to complete the musician and th standard bearer... sorry, I have only one pic as the batteries of my camera suddenly died...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0893.jpg

I missed totally the flame on the musician's candle... when I'll have some spare time I'll touch it up, but now I've some other priorities (such as finishing in time the rest of his fellows!)

As ever, C&C are welcome.

Toschenko

Crube
28-09-2007, 10:18
Lovely stuff as ever there...

I particularly like how crisp the eyes have been painted, something I always struggle with (and seeing as how I have 170 Empire troops lined up waiting for paint :rolleyes:) any tips or tricks you'd care to share...?

Toschenko
28-09-2007, 10:48
I paint eyes in my minis in this way: at first I paint all the eye region with black. Then I trace a white line, taking care of leaving some black showing at the borders, and finally I realize the pupil using a soft tip pen, those used for technic drawings. This is my only trick, for years I painted pupils using brushes but I assure you it's not the same thing... obtaining a circular pupil is way more difficult with a brush than with a pen. Keep your paint thin, especially the white, and work always with a pointy brush to make the black and white on the eyes (the smallest brush I use for painting is a standard one, I don't even own a detail or small detail brush...).

Now, I need help... Only two miners left to go, and one of them is the special "drunken" one (he's depicted while he drinks from a glass). I'm looking for a tutorial or some hints to paint liquids inside glasses (the pics of darren latham's work in a recent white dwarf comes to mind, if you know what I'm talking about) so any help would be really appreciated.

As ever, thanks for looking,

Toschenko

alphachicken
29-09-2007, 14:42
fantastic painting man, the faces are probably the best part, Im just stunned seeing those.

keep up the good work =)

Toschenko
14-10-2007, 15:27
Aaaand.... UPDATE!

I managed to get the miners unit done: I've changed my mind with these and I dropped the number to 10 (but I'll add the last dwarf and the filler later, when I'll have some spare time):

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0908.jpg

This pic shows a bit more realistically the colors:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0905.jpg

As you can see, the drunken miner (the worst painted mini in the unit...) is drinking from a metal glass :wtf:... sadly I didn't find any tutorial on painting liquids in glasses, and I didn't have the time to experiment to find my own way to achieve this effect...

The updated list for the tourney is here :

http://warseer.com/forums/fantasy-army-lists/107575-the-road-to-the-tourney-2000-points-dwarfs.html

I'd really appreciate hints and suggestions on the list composition, if you have any, care to post them.

Next in the painting line is the organ gun, as the thunderers were left out the list (actually)

C&C as always are welcome,

Toschenko

EDIT: the bases are still missing some static grass, I'll add that tomorrow

mrtn
14-10-2007, 20:24
Looking good. Tin mugs used to be quite common, and much cheaper than glass. It sounds like a bad idea anyway to bring glass into a mine, so keeping it as metal is perfectly ok. :)

Crube
14-10-2007, 21:29
Lovely looking unit there... thanks for the pointers on painting eyes too :)

I like the metal mug - more appropriate for a miner.

Tyrion
14-10-2007, 22:09
Those are some Awesome Dwarfs Toschenko! Keep up the great work ;)

DarkSoldier
15-10-2007, 00:13
All the candles on your miners are upside down. The brightest spot of a fire is the bottom, its hottest point.

ssorck
15-10-2007, 00:56
Great looking stuff - love the flagstone bases as well

Toschenko
15-10-2007, 09:04
Looking good. Tin mugs used to be quite common, and much cheaper than glass. It sounds like a bad idea anyway to bring glass into a mine, so keeping it as metal is perfectly ok.


I like the metal mug - more appropriate for a miner.

I'll keep the mug as it stands now, then. Thanks.


Lovely looking unit there... thanks for the pointers on painting eyes too


Those are some Awesome Dwarfs Toschenko! Keep up the great work


Great looking stuff - love the flagstone bases as well

Thanks to everyone. Crube, I'm glad if I can help. Care to post the results.


All the candles on your miners are upside down. The brightest spot of a fire is the bottom, its hottest point.

D'oh! Maybe it was better to point that BEFORE I painted the last miner :eyebrows: (I'm joking mate, thanks for pointing that out: I don't know if I'll repaint the flames, but it's better to know they are wrongly done :D)

Hopefully today I can start working on the organ gun, lurk around here!

Toschenko

BarreBobby
15-10-2007, 14:14
Love your dwarfs the look awesome, especially the metal, the skin etc.

Crube
31-10-2007, 15:04
Toschenko

I'll be creating my own project log or 2 in the (hopefully) near future. One for my personal Middenheim Empire Army, and one for a commision for a 40K Ork Army... oh and probably another for when I get my AI aircraft...

All I have to do first is get my painting area set up again, after stripping out and redecorating my living room.... *sigh*

Anyway, we want more dwarfs :D

ekxw
31-10-2007, 15:08
bufff man i love your work the best unit of miners i have ever seen, great base great touch and you will have a entire army to that level.

wow, great work i will pic some ideas for this post thats for sure

Prince Sairion
31-10-2007, 17:18
These are some great models!

It's impressive to see someone taking so much time over an army, normally this kind of attention to detail is left for individual models.

Love the Dwarfs, can't wait to see the unit fillers, I'm thinking about utilising them myself.

Toschenko
31-10-2007, 19:43
Toschenko

I'll be creating my own project log or 2 in the (hopefully) near future. One for my personal Middenheim Empire Army, and one for a commision for a 40K Ork Army... oh and probably another for when I get my AI aircraft...

All I have to do first is get my painting area set up again, after stripping out and redecorating my living room.... *sigh*

Anyway, we want more dwarfs

Care to give me the link(s) mate!


bufff man i love your work the best unit of miners i have ever seen, great base great touch and you will have a entire army to that level.

wow, great work i will pic some ideas for this post thats for sure

Cheers, but yours weren't THAT bad :D (that is to say that they were stunning)


These are some great models!

It's impressive to see someone taking so much time over an army, normally this kind of attention to detail is left for individual models.

Love the Dwarfs, can't wait to see the unit fillers, I'm thinking about utilising them myself.

Thanks for the comment. Sadly, I've yet to sort out how the fillers wil look (the miners' one probably will be based on the BfSP pony, rather than an hole in the ground) so I don't know when you'll see them.


As for the progress, I've made little work these days as I've been busy with university (mostly :mad:) and the building of my baneblade :D.
I had a little work on the organ gun, the metal is done and I'm working on the chassis, which will be green. I hope to post some pics as soon as possible.

Thanks for the support,

Toschenko

Crube
31-10-2007, 20:35
Care to give me the link(s) mate!



As soon as I start, Sir, I'll let you know




As for the progress, I've made little work these days as I've been busy with university (mostly :mad:)


Fair enough - let you off...:)





and the building of my baneblade :D


Hang on... defector... you have a deadline to meet.... Get back now :D

Toschenko
01-11-2007, 23:34
Hang on... defector... you have a deadline to meet.... Get back now

*Quickly returns to the painting desk*

And this is the result:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0938.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0937.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0936.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0935.jpg

Mmh.. crappy pics, I know....

The gun is not finished yet, but only a few touches are missing (apart the base). Let me know your thoughts, which will be appreciated as ever.

Toschenko

Palatine Katinka
02-11-2007, 01:26
Very nice work but it seems a bit, dunno how to put it, the model looks like it doesn't lend itself to looking cool. :confused:

Maybe add some rust to the rings and rivets on the front, just to break up the metal-work. Maybe it'll look cooler on a funky base and with crew round it.

Light of the Emperor
02-11-2007, 04:45
I really like the metallics on it.
It is missing something though...perhaps a blue or red or yellow dwarf shield?

Prince Sairion
02-11-2007, 22:00
Still looking good Toschenko!

I think this machine should get 'entrenched.' It'd be a great modelling exercise and make an excuse to paint an engineer (good models.)

Looking forward to seeing the finished army, although I'd recommend more dwarfs with shields for gameplay.

Toschenko
03-11-2007, 17:24
Very nice work but it seems a bit, dunno how to put it, the model looks like it doesn't lend itself to looking cool.

Maybe add some rust to the rings and rivets on the front, just to break up the metal-work. Maybe it'll look cooler on a funky base and with crew round it.


I really like the metallics on it.
It is missing something though...perhaps a blue or red or yellow dwarf shield?

I've worked a bit on the organ gun, adding the final wash of green on metals:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0939.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0941.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0944.jpg

It's sitting on the cannon base for display purposes only (the cannon detached during last transport :mad:), it will have its own base with some sort of pole (something similar to the anvil base) supporting a small round shield (thanks for the inspiration LotE).


Still looking good Toschenko!

I think this machine should get 'entrenched.' It'd be a great modelling exercise and make an excuse to paint an engineer (good models.)

Looking forward to seeing the finished army, although I'd recommend more dwarfs with shields for gameplay.

I plan to do some "entrenched" markers in the more or less near future, something that could be added in front of the machine's base. Speaking of warriors, I have a 20 men (dwarfs?) strong unit of warriors with GWs sitting on my desk and awaiting some brush strokes, as well as another 20 still on sprues... if you're interested, I posted the army list in the Fantasy lists section, you can find the link on the previous page.

Thanks again for the support guys, it takes a real man to finish an army!

Toschenko

Crube
03-11-2007, 17:38
Looking good there.

I must confess to being a little disappointed in the first pictures. The metallics looked a little weak, and washy if you understand, but the final pics look great. The metallics look rich and deep, and the green is lovely.

It will be a great addition to the army once it has it's own base.

Now, what else do you have to paint?

Toschenko
03-11-2007, 17:44
The first pictures were taken with natural lighting (on evening :rolleyes:) so they weren't the best... and metallics lacked the definition of the last wash step.

The organ gun is still missing the base (which is assembled, I'll start working on it as soon as the GS sets) and the crew. Next I'll probably do the quarrellers.

Toschenko

Novogord_Vivendi
04-11-2007, 10:48
Looking good. Very good, but could you give us a picture of all your dwarfs together? And are you planning on painting some of those old renaissance dwarfs?

Toschenko
05-11-2007, 22:04
Looking good. Very good, but could you give us a picture of all your dwarfs together? And are you planning on painting some of those old renaissance dwarfs?

Thanks for your appreciation. I'll take a group pic as soon as I finish the organ gun. As for the "renassaince dwarfs", I guess you're referring to the old metal models, prior to 6th edition release: sorry, I own only the dwarf cook roasting a goblin (yuk), and the dwarf on stilts (:wtf:)... I'll paint them just for fun someday...

Back on the painting... I made some mess with the green stuffing on the organ gun base (my GS abilities challenge that of a child in pre-scholar age...) so I had to detach the paving and start again... in the meanwhile I primed the crew and since the undercoat is still drying, I started working on him:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0949.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0950.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0952.jpg

I like this model a lot, he is only a puny human, but with a badass attitude.
Only his face is done ATM (I know, I know, I have to stay focused on my project... but that model is so sexy...).

Toschenko

FurryMiguell
05-11-2007, 22:49
I'm aware that you know, but I have to get this out of my system: Youre an amazing painter! Them space marines gave me some inspiration too. Maybe I'll finally finish my own space marine chapter, so that i can get on with my eldar. I'm also one of those who cant stay at one project at the time. I'm working on DE, Empire, Chaos, Chaos Marines, SM, Eldar and Skaven. I'll never finish them all! My only finished army is VC, and now the new armybook will be ariving... That means more painting for me...

Again, your painting is fantastic:)

ekxw
05-11-2007, 23:47
uhmmm im still in time XD, let me see, the organgun needs some more how to say this not so dark wood, the rest its impresive as always.

and pal im think in stealing the idea of the bases, for the repainting of the hight elves, uhmm XD.

the comisary i think that it would look great with a dark black jacket,, the face its great, some shadows in the eyes like he havent sleep in a while could make him look more evil.

so thinka bout it, i know black its apain in the ass to paint but you have the skill to do it perfectly XD

Light of the Emperor
06-11-2007, 21:05
Very nice face on the commissar! How do you go about picking out the scars as I have some models that could use some battle damage.

Crube
07-11-2007, 07:38
Agreed - as normal, your work on flesh tones is simply amazing... well done




BUt...




More Dwarfs :)

Toschenko
07-11-2007, 10:25
I'm aware that you know, but I have to get this out of my system: Youre an amazing painter! Them space marines gave me some inspiration too. Maybe I'll finally finish my own space marine chapter, so that i can get on with my eldar. I'm also one of those who cant stay at one project at the time. I'm working on DE, Empire, Chaos, Chaos Marines, SM, Eldar and Skaven. I'll never finish them all! My only finished army is VC, and now the new armybook will be ariving... That means more painting for me...

Again, your painting is fantastic:)

Cheers. I'm currently working (putting more effort only in some) in: apocalyptic vostroyans, dwarfs, blood ravens, american rifles for FOW (great game), epic guard and, on top of that, I'm staring collecting BoC... you're not alone, man!


uhmmm im still in time XD, let me see, the organgun needs some more how to say this not so dark wood, the rest its impresive as always.

and pal im think in stealing the idea of the bases, for the repainting of the hight elves, uhmm XD.

the comisary i think that it would look great with a dark black jacket,, the face its great, some shadows in the eyes like he havent sleep in a while could make him look more evil.

so thinka bout it, i know black its apain in the ass to paint but you have the skill to do it perfectly XD

If I understand you correctly, the green on the organ gun should be darker, right? In real life the tone is a bit more dark in fact, the green is orkhide shade washed with diluted black ink, then highlighted adding some bronzed flesh. It should be difficult to darken it more without touching up all subsequent layers and, as you know, I'm in a hurry...
As for the bases, feel free to steal, tweak, crash, burn and possibly use my idea... just care to show me the results.
The commissar will have a black leather jacket (distinctive of his role) with a red inside to tie him with the rest of the army. For the eyes, that's a great idea mate, I'll try it.


Very nice face on the commissar! How do you go about picking out the scars as I have some models that could use some battle damage.

The scar is very basic. After all the work on the flesh tone has been made, pick up the borders of the scar with diluted scab red, then mix scab red/dwarf flesh and paint the raised part. If you want a "fresh" wound, leave it as is. If you want an older, partially healed, wound add a final highlight with the colour you used for the last step of the rest of the flesh. That's it!


Agreed - as normal, your work on flesh tones is simply amazing... well done




BUt...




More Dwarfs :)

Cheers... or not? :p

No, just joking... thanks for your support. It's precious to me (of course, in a manly way :D).

Toschenko

Crube
07-11-2007, 20:09
Always a pleasure



Hey, I'm just selfish, and like looking at lovely pictuers of fantastically painted stunties :p

alphachicken
14-11-2007, 12:39
I like this model a lot, he is only a puny human, but with a badass attitude.

That comissar model will probably be the only gw model I'll put in my army...I just love the guys reckless attitude :cool:

Stunning job on the face as always, I hope I can keep up a near-quality.

Prince Sairion
16-11-2007, 17:47
Come on then Toschenko, where are these Dwarfs????;)

Lorcryst
24-11-2007, 22:02
Whoa !

I had already noticed your beautiful avatar, and tonight I decided to follow the link to this PLOG ...

Master Toschenko, your "tabletop standard" is so much better than my best efforts that it hurts :eek:

That's the need to better my painting proding me with a pointy stick, BTW :evilgrin:

I wanted to paint my BfSP dwarves after my Night Goblins (133 done, only 22 more to go), and I think I fell in love with your "verdigrized bronze" ... mind if I steal the receipe ?

Shadowphrakt
24-11-2007, 22:38
The painting on the face of the commissar is brilliant! Really gritty and mean like a commissar should be. I am amazed at your standard of painting, i hope to be as good as you someday.:D:

Crube
24-11-2007, 22:41
Toschenko...

I thought you were on a deadline here...

I'm noticing a lack of dwarfs in this thread.... come on man ;)

The_Dark_Raven
25-11-2007, 08:28
Toschenko...

I thought you were on a deadline here...

I'm noticing a lack of dwarfs in this thread.... come on man ;)


lol, i agree:p

bluey
25-11-2007, 09:34
wow
your such a neat painter !!!

your stunties are great...........better than mine!

Toschenko
25-11-2007, 17:54
Come on then Toschenko, where are these Dwarfs????


Toschenko...

I thought you were on a deadline here...

I'm noticing a lack of dwarfs in this thread.... come on man

lol :p

I've just returned home from the tourney. I come 6th out of 14 gamers, 37 points total (1 tie, 1 massacre, 1 minor defeat, signature edited), I probably lost the second place failing a crucial terror test with the warriors during last game, but hey, the law of the dice rules above all... :(
Ok, I've been a bit (:angel:) lazy these days, I promise I'll start again painting tomorrow. My local store is organizing a fantasy painting contest, and I'll participate with my favourite piece, the anvil. The deadline is the 15 of december, so all of you, prepare yourselves for bashing my painting 'cause the contest will be hard... I have to paint it at my best.


... and I think I fell in love with your "verdigrized bronze" ... mind if I steal the receipe ?

Feel free to steal anything mate, thanks for commenting :)

Oh, and thanks for the support to all others, too.

Toschenko

Toschenko
26-11-2007, 16:23
Oh, and while you wait for more update, you may like one (crappy camera batteries :mad:) pic of my first attempt at airbushing... I made this some time ago, staring from my first ever built tank :eek:. it's still missing something, but you get the idea. I'm particularly proud of the major battle damage on the side, just like a melta bomb which failed to destroy the (very) lucky tank...

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0979.jpg

Comments are welcome as usual, more pics and a question to come.

Toschenko

Anardakil
26-11-2007, 17:04
Great looking basilisk :)

Shadowphrakt
26-11-2007, 17:05
Melta Gun Damage! Great work.

JonnyX
26-11-2007, 17:45
Great work on the basalisk damage but mind telling me how you painted the red on the blood ravens?

MAD MAN-A-TRON
26-11-2007, 18:08
The vostroyans are coming together nicely, this is a great project log.

TYRANOODLE
26-11-2007, 20:13
Well painted, but it doesnt look very threatining with a big hole in the side and a dead guy operating it :)

Crube
26-11-2007, 20:17
Basilisk looks great. Very impressed by the damage, but I do agree it doesnt look very threatening.

One point. how does the track stay undamaged while the chassis beneath it is melted to oblvion?

Cant wait to see the Anvil. As has been mentioned repeatedly, your tabletop standard is amazing, so a model you paint for a competition should be awesome...

Toschenko
26-11-2007, 20:41
Great work on the basalisk damage but mind telling me how you painted the red on the blood ravens?

The red is achieved as follows (IIRC):

- base with molak hull red (it's like dark flesh, a bit more reddish)
- highlight with red gore, leaving the previous color only in the hollows
- drybrush heavily with blood red, two lighter "coats" are better than a too heavy one though



One point. how does the track stay undamaged while the chassis beneath it is melted to oblvion?


Obviously the damaged track has already been substituted :p

It is lacking the second operator (an alive one!), maybe this is the main reason of why it doen't look so dangerous :D. I managed to recover this kit from the dark ages of my childhood, when I thought that "if a piece doesn't hold in place, more randomly and heavily applied glue will fix it"... the melted hole is there to mask one of such errors (or horrors?).

Thanks for the comments to all newcomers (and older posters, too)

Toschenko

Toschenko
27-11-2007, 21:21
Got my camera back working, here are some other pics of the bassie:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0981.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0984.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0986.jpg

And the random trooper who had a very bad day:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0990.jpg

I anticipated a question, so here it is. I lost some of the components of the rear platform (those that are missing in the third picture). I wanted to model a a dead operator who has been eviscerated by an explosive shell, which damaged even the platform. Now the question is: how to model the damaged platform? It's really not convincing as it stand now... I need some brainstorming from you. Please note that the I'm going to add an heavy weathering when I'll finish all the tank, so I can still add scorched patches, burnt metal, whatever you may want to recommend. Please, I need advice!

Toschenko

Toschenko
27-11-2007, 21:22
Oh, and here's a quick shot of a 15mm FoW trooper, "new style":

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0977.jpg

Comments are appreciated as ever,

Toschenko

TYRANOODLE
27-11-2007, 21:28
I like the ribs but shouldnt they be jutting inside?

Prince Sairion
28-11-2007, 21:56
I like the basilisk mate, needs a bit of weathering imo (but then I like the used look.)

As for the trooper above, it's nice, but it's not really a dwarf is it???;)

Hope you are having fun painting, it's good to see some updates.

Toschenko
28-11-2007, 22:46
I like the ribs but shouldnt they be jutting inside?

I think that the mini is depicted as if he was killed by an explosive round who penetrated his chest (ouch!) so the ribs should be pointing outside (I think)


I like the basilisk mate, needs a bit of weathering imo (but then I like the used look.)

As for the trooper above, it's nice, but it's not really a dwarf is it???;)

Hope you are having fun painting, it's good to see some updates.

The basilisk will have some (probably heavy) weathering. FoW mini are dwarfed by dwarfs, so it should count :p!

Here's a quick WIP pic of one of the organ gun crewmen: after I complete him I'll start the anvil (as I have something like 20 days left and I'm a slooow painter).

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_0992.jpg

He has some ugly teeth (one made of gold, too :D)

Toschenko

Novogord_Vivendi
29-11-2007, 12:12
I like that dwarf. He has much bling bling options. Maybe make his hair purple?

TYRANOODLE
29-11-2007, 15:17
oh yeah, i just remembered what bolter rounds did

(As in they drill into you then explode)

alphachicken
29-11-2007, 23:28
I anticipated a question, so here it is. I lost some of the components of the rear platform (those that are missing in the third picture). I wanted to model a a dead operator who has been eviscerated by an explosive shell, which damaged even the platform. Now the question is: how to model the damaged platform? It's really not convincing as it stand now... I need some brainstorming from you. Please note that the I'm going to add an heavy weathering when I'll finish all the tank, so I can still add scorched patches, burnt metal, whatever you may want to recommend. Please, I need advice!
Toschenko

Uhm, I imagined another trooper there, since I guess 2 operates the basilisk, lots of blackened ground, and some chipped paint?

And blood...not gory B-type movie style blood but a nice "splat" I guess :wtf:

I took this photo in the tube station near where I live, I guess its a burn mark from something large, I thought it could help for the scorch effect :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/boyacininevi/burn.jpg

-chicken

Colonel Stagler
30-11-2007, 00:04
that dead guy on the basilisk needs a splotch of red ink in his chest crevice and on his stumps loll otherwise excellent work, i especially like the way you paint faces toschenko
Stagler Out

Toschenko
04-12-2007, 22:36
I like that dwarf. He has much bling bling options. Maybe make his hair purple?

I'm not sure to fully understand you... but hey, nothing so fancy for my dwarfs like purple hair! They have a behaviour to maintain :p!


Uhm, I imagined another trooper there, since I guess 2 operates the basilisk, lots of blackened ground, and some chipped paint?

And blood...not gory B-type movie style blood but a nice "splat" I guess

I took this photo in the tube station near where I live, I guess its a burn mark from something large, I thought it could help for the scorch effect

-chicken

The second operator is going to be the mortar guy covering his ears from the the big BANG (earthshakers have to be quite noisy...): maybe I'll add a standing servitor to replace the dead fella... Thanks for the pic mate, that should be useful


that dead guy on the basilisk needs a splotch of red ink in his chest crevice and on his stumps loll otherwise excellent work, i especially like the way you paint faces toschenko
Stagler Out

I'll add all the mandatory gore when I'll finish the model. Cheers


oh yeah, i just remembered what bolter rounds did

(As in they drill into you then explode)

Unpleasant, but surely more effective than a standard lasgun shot, known to harm foes only occasionally by causing odd epileptic seizures (you know, all those tiny flashing lights...)


Well, on with the update. Not a major one, but at least I managed to finish something:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1022.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1026.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1028.jpg

I definitely have to get a tripod and some decent lighting... oh, and BTW the shiny sword/knife handle is due to the matt varnish drying.

For the painting contest, I have a problem: I realized that the deadline is really near and I haven't undercoated the anvil yet... I'll start it anyway since I want to get it painted, but probably I'll not manage to finish it for the 15 of december (got exams two days later...). Maybe next time....

Toschenko

Captain Brown
04-12-2007, 22:50
What a great little log. Sorry I missed it for so long. (Subscribes)

Captain Brown

Prince Sairion
05-12-2007, 07:11
The face of that model reminds me of one of my best friends, his name is Dave and that Dwarf in real life would probably wind up taller than him, in short, incredibly well painted, looks like it's real!

How much more Dwarfiness have you got to go before you are done?

ekxw
05-12-2007, 10:17
the dwarf great as ever, nice idea the gold tooth, and
pal making hightlights to a 15mm miniature, XD you have to had a perfect steady hand, to make that.

nice to see you continue painting dwarfs.

have you ever think about painting the slayer from felix?

Toschenko
05-12-2007, 16:26
What a great little log. Sorry I missed it for so long. (Subscribes)

Captain Brown

Glad to have you here, Captain. It's never too late, don't worry :D


The face of that model reminds me of one of my best friends, his name is Dave and that Dwarf in real life would probably wind up taller than him, in short, incredibly well painted, looks like it's real!

How much more Dwarfiness have you got to go before you are done?

I'll dub him Dave then! I have, erm...not too much dwarfs (I was about to say "an enormous amount", then I remembered to whom I was speaking :p). That is to say nearly 4000 points, probably more. So it's a looong way before the end.


the dwarf great as ever, nice idea the gold tooth, and
pal making hightlights to a 15mm miniature, XD you have to had a perfect steady hand, to make that.

I found that FoW minis are much more simpler to paint than it seems, you should try one day (on top of that, the game system is awesome).



nice to see you continue painting dwarfs.

have you ever think about painting the slayer from felix?

I have him sitting on my desk, awaiting for some of my spare time (the slayer, not Felix!)

Cheers for the comments, guys

Toschenko

bennietzel
05-12-2007, 17:44
hey,

I just started reading this log. Very impressive stuff. Quick question: What brand and size of marker pen do you use for doing your eyes? Great job.

Toschenko
05-12-2007, 19:08
My pen is a 005 one, made by the german manufacturer Staedtler. Here in italy it's readily available, don't know about US though. Here are some pics:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1033.jpg

A size comparison shot of the tip, the coin is approximately 2,3 cm (roughly 0,9 inches)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1035.jpg

Hope that helps, thanks for joining my log :)

Toschenko

Metal Fingered Villain
06-12-2007, 02:29
As others have said, these are some of the best dwarfs I've seen. Major inspiration seeing how much work you pump out. I need to light a fire under my **** or something to finish the last stretches of what I've got on the bench atm. For the damaged bassie platform, I would consider some plasticard strips the same width as the actual guardrail on the model cut into pieces and placed around the guardsmen. I would also find some plasticard rod about the same size as the rails supports and glue them in place in various heights and states of damage. Lots of scorched metal and blood, that guardsmen seems to have no blood in his body at all. Good stuff dude, I am awaiting more pics.

bennietzel
06-12-2007, 18:29
thanks a ton, I'll be looking for that pen (or an equivelant I can get here in the states) this afternoon! My eyes by paint brush are so horrible... I can hardly wait to try the pen out. Again, great log and thanks for the info.

Toschenko
31-12-2007, 18:24
An update at least, but I'm sorry to say that there are no new pictures... I've messed up the anvil base two times and now it's in the stripping paint phase (again)

This post is only to say that I'm not (yet) dead, and with the coming of the new year you should see updates more often than before (not that difficult, BTW :p). BUT, I have something for you: my intentions for the next year!

I've bought/traded some stuff for apocalypsizing my vostroyan force, and this includes:

- 2 more basilisks (maybe I can even get some FW platforms, but I'm not too sure if I like them)
- 3 more russes (2 to be converted in exterminators) for a grand total of 5
- 2 hellhounds, one is the Artemia pattern from forgeworld (I've yet to receive it, though :()
- 1 more vostroyan squad
- 3 more commissars, just to hold the battle line :D

note: the apocalypse boxes are great when you find some interested fellow to divide the costs

Then comes the FoW stuff: I've bought some urban bases from K&K (you'll see some painted soon), and in january I should expand my tiny american force... I heard some vague and unconfirmed rumour of a possible italian official translation of the rulebook, and that's more than sufficient to seriously start expanding my army! *crosses fingers*

Hopefully I can even get something finished!

So, here we are... I felt that I had to close the year posting something, sorry for the little threadomancy... :angel:

Have an happy new year, full of (miniature) battles and, hopefully, wins!

Toschenko

Prince Sairion
31-12-2007, 18:42
Good to hear you have painting intentions mate!! It's been a while but will be well worth the wait.

I heard somewhere that gw were going to pull the vostroyan range, so getting plenty of the regiments may be the way to go before it's too late.

Hope to see more of your painting soon, and a Happy New Year to you too.

Vengance
31-12-2007, 19:41
Hi all

firstly this is a great little log and your models are painted really clean and crisp.

I'm looking forward to seeing your progress as your dwarfs have given me some ideas for mine which i am hoping to start shortly.

Keep up the good work

Vengance

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE

Toschenko
01-01-2008, 23:35
Good to hear you have painting intentions mate!! It's been a while but will be well worth the wait.

I heard somewhere that gw were going to pull the vostroyan range, so getting plenty of the regiments may be the way to go before it's too late.

Hope to see more of your painting soon, and a Happy New Year to you too.

I heard it here on warseer me thinks... bad news, but I should have sufficient models for my needs. Besides that, it seems that LotE is harvesting all the remaining vostroyan models on the planet, the box I've bought was a lucky find :p (just joking, mate :D !)


Hi all

firstly this is a great little log and your models are painted really clean and crisp.

I'm looking forward to seeing your progress as your dwarfs have given me some ideas for mine which i am hoping to start shortly.

Keep up the good work

Vengance

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE

Cheers! Expect some dwarf update in the not-so-distant future... for I've been experimenting with metals to find a suitable look for the dreaded anvil: and I eventually came on this:

http://coolminiornot.com/article/aid/649

Which, after a few hours, produced this:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1065.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1061.jpg

As usual, the photos are crappy... the metal is much more rich and deep in tone than it appears on the pics (and it has a pleasant blueish tone as I gave a final glaze of turquoise, something you can really see only IRL or with better piccies...) and the front armor is shaded as the back.

Do you think that a similar look would possibly work for the anvil?

I'll try to finish the mini tomorrow, the mantle is going to be dark red.

Toschenko

Arhalien
02-01-2008, 10:37
Nice stuff :)
Personally I think that the crevices on the armour could do with being darker... or was that not the look you were going for?
Looking forward to seeing him done :)

Vengance
02-01-2008, 12:10
Hi

I like the metalics, may be it could be a little darker on the chest near his arms ? But i'm no were near as good as you so what do i know :angel:

Looking forward to the Dwarfs :)

Vengance

Toschenko
03-01-2008, 14:41
Nice stuff :)
Personally I think that the crevices on the armour could do with being darker... or was that not the look you were going for?



Hi
I like the metalics, may be it could be a little darker on the chest near his arms ?
Vengance

Mmh, I'm with you on this one. On the anvil I'll put some stronger shadows, thanks for the advice.

Being a lazy git, I've made very little progress... but the mantle is done:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1071.jpg

This was a try for the commissar jacket (the inside) and in general for vostroyan uniforms: this time I've not used the red ink glaze, but a liche purple one (along with a red from another brand). I've yet to try some weathering on the robes, I'm crazy enough to weather all vostroyans... (no wonder if I've yet to finish an army...:eyebrows:)

I'll start the anvil this evening or tomorrow, and follow the same method I used for the praetorian guard: I intend to make a two-color piece (steel and gold), adding maybe some trim of a third color (red? turquoise? If you have some hints, then I'll accept them gladly :D)

Toschenko

Arhalien
03-01-2008, 14:53
Very, very nice red :)
Any chance of a recipe? I may give that a go on a High Elf mage I'm painting in a bit, if I have the paints ;)

Toschenko
03-01-2008, 15:17
For sure!

The colors I used are:

1- base dark flesh
2- then scab red
3- wash all with liche purple
4- red gore
5- molak red (it's half way between red gore and blood red so you should obtain it by mixing these two)
6- blood red
7- blazing orange

It's faster than it seems, just dilute the paint a bit more than usual, then wipe the color away on a piece of kitchen paper leaving the brush with only a bit of thinned color (I think this technique it's called wetbrush, or something similar), then make two passes for each painting step. With the aid of an hairdryer all the mantle took me about 30 minutes to start to finish (and it's far more complicated than the average vostroyan uniform or ordinary GW mantle).

Now, just to ruin all the work :D, it seems that the guard has stepped on a muddy road:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1084.jpg

It looks better IRL, but I'm not too keen on this. BTW, that's what test minis are for :p

C&C are accepted as usual,

Toschenko

Arhalien
03-01-2008, 15:43
Thanks Toschenko; I'll give that a go if I can get hold of some liche purple :)

Vengance
03-01-2008, 17:10
Hi

The red looks nice and deep :)

Not to sure about the mud ? it looks well painted. Maybe it could be a little bit darker ?

Keep up the good work

Vengance

Light of the Emperor
04-01-2008, 01:23
I too have been looking at that technique. I'll need to try it sometime.

I really like the red. As for the mud, I'd add some darker brown at the way bottom to show "wet" or new mud. It looks fine as is though!

Harry
04-01-2008, 08:31
I also have 4000 points of Dwarves.
Yours, however, will be a lot more neatly painted by the look of things so far :D

Wonderful neat, crisp painting and attention to detail.
Makes me want to re-double my efforts on my own stuff to make it neater.

Looking forward to more Dwarfs. Always had a soft spot for them.

Toschenko
17-01-2008, 10:46
Hi folks!

These days I was busy with studies, so busy that the work on dwarfs has progressed very slowly. The anvil is awaiting the multiple washes treatment (and my will to do it...), in the next days I should be able to post something more.

With little to none will to paint, I had to keep myself occupied so I figured out how I could take better pics for my painted minis (those very few...). Surfing the web I found many tutorials on how to build light tents, but those were invariably involving too much work: buying and cutting plastic tubing, using bed sheets, etc. Too much for my laziness. So I tried with this setup:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1130.jpg

As you can see, it's very rude... it's just a plastic semi-transparent WHITE bowl with a paper sheet on the inside. But, when you light up all the thing like this:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1126.jpg

You obtain something like this:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1122.jpg

Crude, but effective! Editing the pics with photoshop or tinkering with camera settings should probably lead to even better results, I have still to try. In particular, I should go and buy a second clip lamp (like that on the right in the second pic) because as you may notice, the illumination isn't homogeneous (it's stronger on the miner). Using a plastic bowl instead of a bed sheet means that you have to light the tent from the inside, and my desk lamp (on the left in the second pic) doesn't reach the inside of the bowl.

Feel free to steal this idea (and improve it): should you have any questions on the setup or camera settings, don't hesitate and ask!

P.S.: Arhalien, now you don't have anymore an excuse for your terrible pics :D!

See ya,

Toschenko

Luke
17-01-2008, 11:56
That is genius! I love it, so simple yet so effective :)

The Inquisitor
17-01-2008, 16:05
Agreed; that is a great idea!

Arhalien
17-01-2008, 16:44
Nice idea Toschenko; now I just need to find a semi-transparent white bowl ;)

sigur
17-01-2008, 17:51
Very nice idea indeed. If I run across a semi-transparent plastic bowl, I'll give it a try.

Toschenko
17-01-2008, 18:43
Thanks guys.

A side note: it should be fine to use a simple cardboard box with the inside covered with white paper sheets instead of the plastic bowl. I had the bowl available so I used that, but the idea is that the inside of the "light box" should spread the light in all directions, minimizing shadows. As long as you use some very reflective coating for the inside of the box, it should work well.

P.S.: Arhalien, now you REALLY don't have an excuse :p!

*returns back to painting*

Toschenko

EDIT: Harry & The Inquisitor you are welcome :D

Arhalien
17-01-2008, 18:57
Thanks guys.

A side note: it should be fine to use a simple cardboard box with the inside covered with white paper sheets instead of the plastic bowl. I had the bowl available so I used that, but the idea is that the inside of the "light box" should spread the light in all directions, minimizing shadows. As long as you use some very reflective coating for the inside of the box, it should work well.

P.S.: Arhalien, now you REALLY don't have an excuse :p!



What should I use for the reflective material? :p
And seriosu question; does it have to be a daylight bulb?

Toschenko
17-01-2008, 20:42
What should I use for the reflective material? :p

Anything that you feel confortable with AND reflects (light :p)... some white A4 paper sheets should suffice :D



And seriosu question; does it have to be a daylight bulb?

Non-daylight bulbs tend to alter slightly some colors... you should be fine with a normal bulb if you plan to edit the pic with photoshop after taking the shot (but then it's way simpler to use a daylight bulb...:cool:). Just remember to set accordingly the white balance of your camera

Toschenko

Arhalien
17-01-2008, 20:44
Oh dear, this is just confusing me even more......
More questions (SORRY! :(); how to alter in photobucket, how to alter white balance?
Sorry again...

Toschenko
17-01-2008, 21:11
Most digital cameras has a "white balance" setting: usually there are preset settings (sorry for the bad wording) that at least cover "warm" light conditions (from incandescent lamps) and "cold" light conditions (illumination from fluorescent bulbs, that comprise energy saving bulbs).

Many cameras give also the possibility for a manual setup of the white balance... if you have this function, just use it. If your camera doesn't have it, experiment with the preset settings to find which one alters less the colors. In this case, using daylight bulbs usually leads to better results using the setting for "sunlight" environments.

Editing pics with photoshop (not photobucket ;)) it's an art on its own... but if you search on the web for some tutorials you'll find SO much material.

I know that I've been even more confusing if that's possible... if you (and someone else, of course) are interested I can always write down a brief tutorial. I'm no expert, but I like tinkering with things and I explored thoroughly the possibilities of my camera (for this sake, I own a Canon Powershot A610). Just let me know

Toschenko

Arhalien
17-01-2008, 21:14
I think I'm getting this....
I'll have a go with what you've suggested and if it doesn;t make it any better you're getting the blame! :p
Thanks :)

Toschenko
17-01-2008, 21:18
I think I'm getting this....
I'll have a go with what you've suggested and if it doesn;t make it any better you're getting the blame! :p
Thanks :)

Now I'm starting to feel worried... :D

Toschenko

dean
17-01-2008, 21:20
I know that I've been even more confusing if that's possible... if you (and someone else, of course) are interested I can always write down a brief tutorial.

erm.. Already done.

Taking Pictures (http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8972)

Have a try tall lanky mustachioed monkey thing.

Toschenko
17-01-2008, 21:25
Thanks for pointing that thread out, Dean: I'll have a look at it, too. Oh, and welcome here :D

Toschenko

dean
17-01-2008, 21:30
Whoops! I guess that was my first post in your thread. Awsome Vossies Toshenko. Been watching for a fair few months.

Haven't played WFB for a long time but those are some well done Dwarves also.

mrtn
17-01-2008, 22:23
As to the photographing/editing discussion, one very simple thing is to open the pic in Photoshop and go to Image/Adjustments/Auto Levels. This can fix the colours most of the time. :)

Toschenko, looking forward to more minis soon. ;)

Toschenko
24-01-2008, 16:57
I'm here with an update, folks! Since this log is starting to lose its randomness (and the title suggest another thing) the update isn't probably focused on what you're expecting, but anyway...

Inspired by Sigur's work on his beautiful warmaster orcs, I've decided that I would put some time in painting some of the (very) little stuff I have lurking in my room... but since I don't play warmaster I've been busy in finally starting seriously my guard epic army :D. These are the results of my efforts on valhallans guardsmen 'til now:

Test leman russ:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1133.jpg

Test (command) infantry stand:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1139.jpg

the rest of the first infantry company:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1142.jpg

I made the Russ quite some time ago, drybrushing the white over a light grey: it's not that bad when you see it from a distance, but in the pics it looks really ugly. I guess I should try with layering.

The infantry instead came out really well, I'm very fond of those. Some stands are still WIP (only for helmets though) but the rest is finished, less the bases. On this subject, does anyone have some hint on how to base epic stuff? I fear that using sand or gravel may appear way too out of scale...

More randomness to come...

Toschenko

Prince Sairion
24-01-2008, 18:27
The man's back!

Long time Toschenkno, liking the epic, can't believe you found something to paint smaller than Dwarfs though.

lz7947
25-01-2008, 01:47
All of your models are looking wonderful, and they are my tutorials always. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.

LZ

Toschenko
27-01-2008, 12:09
The man's back!

Long time Toschenkno, liking the epic, can't believe you found something to paint smaller than Dwarfs though.

Eh eh, cheers...


All of your models are looking wonderful, and they are my tutorials always. Looking forward to seeing more of your stuff.

LZ

Thanks mate, it's a nice compliment coming from you.

-------------------------------------------------------

I've finished painting the last helmets on the epic guardsmen but I'm still waiting for some suggestion on how to make the bases... pics will follow after the basing is done.

Now, something totally different :D:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1144.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1146.jpg

I had this mini sitting on my desk for ages, half-painted... now it's near completion (it's missing some particulars) but I think I'll have to redo the skin, I'm not too keen on the face.

Yes, I know what you're thinking... I'll paint some other dwarf, promised!

Looking for C&C

Toschenko

Arhalien
27-01-2008, 12:24
I don;t see anything wrong with the face; that looks very nice so far :)

Toschenko
27-01-2008, 12:53
It is looking maybe too purple-ish for my taste. However, I'm trying to like it so that I don't have to repaint it :D!

Thanks for looking

Toschenko

EDIT: a quick question: blond or black hair for the van saar?

Arhalien
27-01-2008, 13:24
Black I;d say; it looks good as it is and another colour may be a bit too much IMO.

Light of the Emperor
27-01-2008, 15:28
The face looks awesome! Seriously, it looks good as is. One of these days I'll paint skin as well as you but that seems to be a bit away!

I'm liking the epic stuff. I want to try painting some myself just because the models are so cool.

Toschenko
27-01-2008, 17:06
Thanks LotE and Arhalien. Mmh, I reckon that adding a fourth colour would be a bit OTT, I'll leave blond hair for the guys with black lasguns; thanks for the advice.

Now, even more randomness with a FoW-related update:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1157.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1163.jpg

These first two pics show a test base for the company command. The following two with some models momentarily stuck to it to show how it will look like:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1155.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1152.jpg

Apologies for the pic quality, those were taken in a hurry. Tomorrow I should be able to post something better. The guy standing behind the ones talking will be substituted by a radio operator, to form with the other two the company command.

As you may notice, I'm experimenting mixing uniforms in platoons, just to have some variety when I paint those little bloody men... I have something like 150 to do (why the hell did I choose an infantry company?)

C&C on the base is crucial 'cause now I can still change the colour... I went for a "earthy" look even if they are supposed to be urban bases, because I didn't want to paint them in boring shades of grey... I think this should be ok since during WW2 many urban areas had still earthy roads

The colour of the base edges is ok? Let me know, please

Toschenko

Palatine Katinka
27-01-2008, 17:55
The Van Saar guy looks cool except for his trigger finger being green.

Toschenko
27-01-2008, 18:04
The Van Saar guy looks cool except for his trigger finger being green.

Whoops, guess I'll have to fix that :o. Good eye by the way :D

Toschenko

Borsil
27-01-2008, 18:40
I must say I can't believe how good your stuff looks, and that I've never seen your thread before. I love the FoW GI's, so much detail on such a small scale.

And consider your photo booth idea stolen :)

FurryMiguell
28-01-2008, 08:21
Ah! my head! i got to lie down. this is to much... to well painted... and my PC almost killed itself loading this post!

Cheers:D

warflag
02-02-2008, 15:23
(why the hell did I choose an infantry company?)


The colour of the base edges is ok? Let me know, please

Toschenko

Maybe because you like to have hundreds of minis? :p Thatīs at least the reason for me.
Very nice fow stuff!

Base edge colour is good, maybe get rid of the mold-line.

greets, Bart

konrad
03-02-2008, 16:49
Liking the Van Saar ganger. God bless there Mullets.

Toschenko
05-02-2008, 22:28
Thanks for the comments and the support, folks! Sorry for the lack of updates these days...

@Borsil: feel free to steal my idea and, obviously, to improve it!

Here are some pics of the finished command team, from various angles:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1165.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1166.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1168.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1170.jpg

C&C are as always welcome, keep on posting here :-)

Toschenko

Kaos
06-02-2008, 21:21
Tons of great stuff in here. :) Love your clean work and im so gonna steal that lighting-trick! Them maybe i can get good pictures with the right colors sometime. :P

Keep painting!

The Inquisitor
07-02-2008, 07:27
My pen is a 005 one, made by the german manufacturer Staedtler. Here in italy it's readily available, don't know about US though. Here are some pics:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1033.jpg

A size comparison shot of the tip, the coin is approximately 2,3 cm (roughly 0,9 inches)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1035.jpg

Hope that helps, thanks for joining my log :)

Toschenko

don't know if its been said already, but you can get micron pens very readily here in the US that are .005 and a variety of colors.

sigur
07-02-2008, 07:53
Hey Toschenko! Finally I'm having a look at your log again (about time, as I noticed). All the stuff you've done lately looks great.

The Valhallans look very neat. I like the choice of your colour scheme eventhough it's fairly standard (well, at least 10 years ago it used to be :cries: ) but it just works so well compared to greyer/darker schemes. The russ isn't looking too bad. I think that a little darker grey (contradiction with my first statement about your Epic army? noooooo... :p) would have looked better. This half-light grey is always problematic because it has the same colour as GW's plastic (most of the time at least). Anyway, good to see those nice minis painted. Are they still the standard infantry miniatures for Epic IG by the way?

The van Saar dude looks amazing. I like the scheme a lot and the work itself is so smooth and clean, especially the laspistol and the skin. May I ask how you did it? Usual flesh with a purple glaze? Somehow I'm obsessed with purple glaze on faces these days...:p When I read your question about the colour of the hair for the guy, my first reaction was "Blond hair! Red armour -> blond hair, obviously!!". Well, I'm glad I didn't post my suggestion back then; another colour maybe really would have looked odd on him. As you know, I'm always pretty likely to use one or two colours too many.

Hey, didn't you ask me for ways of painting lots of 15mm minis fast? First step: Don't make them look so neat, people will get jealous!;) Seriously, those are very nice; I like the pose of the officer a lot. Is the base pre-sculpted or did you do it yourself? You rarely see such detail on 15mm-scale bases.

Alright, I should get painting now too. So much stuff to do and so little time. Looking forward to more updates!

Toschenko
09-02-2008, 11:23
Thanks, Kaos.

Some quick replies to the good Sigur:



The Valhallans look very neat. I like the choice of your colour scheme eventhough it's fairly standard (well, at least 10 years ago it used to be) but it just works so well compared to greyer/darker schemes. The russ isn't looking too bad. I think that a little darker grey (contradiction with my first statement about your Epic army? noooooo...) would have looked better. This half-light grey is always problematic because it has the same colour as GW's plastic (most of the time at least). Anyway, good to see those nice minis painted. Are they still the standard infantry miniatures for Epic IG by the way?

I kept as a reference a valhallan tank drawing I found somewhere on the internet and the tone was almost white... I think I'll try with an even lighter grey, but thanks anyway :D. I guess that I'm not liking the russ too much for it has been drybrushed, and the finish of the flat parts isn't the best (well, at least IMO).



The van Saar dude looks amazing. I like the scheme a lot and the work itself is so smooth and clean, especially the laspistol and the skin. May I ask how you did it? Usual flesh with a purple glaze? Somehow I'm obsessed with purple glaze on faces these days...

Yes, for the skin I used my usual receipt, that involves a purple glaze. Purple or green glazes are very used for uman flesh, even if I discovered it a bit late :rolleyes:



Hey, didn't you ask me for ways of painting lots of 15mm minis fast? First step: Don't make them look so neat, people will get jealous!;) Seriously, those are very nice; I like the pose of the officer a lot. Is the base pre-sculpted or did you do it yourself? You rarely see such detail on 15mm-scale bases.

The base is a pre-sculpted resin one from Kerr&King, from their "urban" range. They have also a line for sci-fi 25mm bases, which I could get for my necromunda gang

Sigur, thanks for all the compliments spread over your post :D

Toschenko

hallowed_are_the_ori
09-02-2008, 12:01
Nice work dude.

Just curious, are the Flames of War minis fun to paint?

Crube
09-02-2008, 15:31
You take time off, I've been away a while... some serious reading to be done here...

As ever, lovely stuff. I especially like the FoW command base - not too sure about the colour of the tiles, but the rest is awesome. How did you do the aerial on the radio operator? Was it part of the model or is it wire of some sort?

Anyway, lovely stuff. Just one thing from me

PAINT MORE DWARVES :D

Toschenko
10-02-2008, 21:32
Nice work dude.

Just curious, are the Flames of War minis fun to paint?

FoW minis are fun, not rewarding as bigger ones but fun. The fun is that you can go crazy with the base, each stand could be modelled as a mini diorama and THIS is funny :D. Playing the game is even better :evilgrin: (I'm a big fan of the designers at battlefront)



As ever, lovely stuff. I especially like the FoW command base - not too sure about the colour of the tiles, but the rest is awesome. How did you do the aerial on the radio operator? Was it part of the model or is it wire of some sort?


Nice to see you here again, mate :)!

The tiles are meant to be part of a former bathroom or kitchen, so I thought that a light blue could have been fitting the theme... the aerial is a bristle from an old broom, cut to the correct lenght, angled (like the real SCR300 radio) and painted black.



Anyway, lovely stuff. Just one thing from me

PAINT MORE DWARVES

Will do ;). Thank you for the support

Toschenko

Crube
10-02-2008, 22:08
Thanks for the thing about the radio aerial - I'll be pinching that one for a littel idea I have for the Ork Commission I'm doing.

And the tiles manke more sense now :)

Rikka Rakka
06-03-2008, 22:22
I'm really sorry if I'm dragging this thread up but I've just spent hours going through it and had to say something.

Basically mate, its superb. I've been feeling really uninspired lately and this log has really given me the kick I needed. Your painting is beautiful, crisp and smooth. I don't like Dwarves but yo have made me think again.

As I say, I apologise to the mods if I've dragged the thread up but I just thought such a large body of quality work couldn't go uncommented by me...

tagsta
07-03-2008, 01:20
nice stuff in this thread :D why did I discover it so late ? lol

Toschenko
09-03-2008, 15:03
Thanks guys, your kind words make my ego fly perhaps a bit too high :D

As for the resurrection of this thread don't worry, you anticipated me by a few days... I'm still in finals period with university so I don't have much time to paint, but I should have an update to come in the short period :p

I've laid down a list of what I've still to do: I'll update it with the other games when I'll have some more spare time :eyebrows: (as usual in these cases, red means bare metal and green finished):

Dwarves

The anvil of doom

5(!) Lord/Thanes

Thane on Oath Stone

BSB Thane

2 Runesmiths

2 Master engineers

AoW Slayer

20 Warriors with GWs

20 Warriors with HtH weapons/shield (BfSP)

20 Thunderers (10 metal and 10 BfSP)

10 Quarrellers

10 Rangers (the metal ones)

25 Longbeards (the metal ones)

4 Bolt thrower with engineers (2 new 2 old)

1 Cannon (6th)

1 Grudge thrower (6th)

1 Grudge thrower (7th)

20 Trollslayers

20 Ironbreakers

10 Miners (metal)

20 Hammerers

2 Organ guns (6th)

1 Flame cannon (6th)

1 Gyrocopter (6th)



Space Marines (Imperial Fists)

Commander

Pedro Kantor

Terminator chaplain

Terminator captain

Terminator Librarian

Librarian with tome

Command Squad

10-men Tactical Squad

10-men Tactical Squad

5-men Scout squad with bolters/H. Bolter (metal)

5-men Scout Squad with sniper rifles/missile launcher (metal)

5-men Sternguard Veteran Squad

2 Rhinos 1 completed

Razorback

10-men Assault squad

10-men Assault squad

3 Land speeders (plastic)

1 Land speeder (metal, 2ed one)

8 Bikers

4 Attack bikes 1 completed

Predator Destructor (old)

Predator Annihilator (new)

Whirlwind (old)



Flames of War

U.S. rifle company

Company command

2 Rifle platoons

Machine-Gun Platoon

Weapons Platoon

Field Artillery Battery

5 Shermans


German Armour

5 Tiger IE :D

2 Panzer IV H


Necromunda

Van Saar gang (1 leader, 1 heavy, 2 juves and 4 gangers)


For fun minis

Konrad von carstein

AoW goblin hero

AoW dark elf sorceress




Let's see if I can put some green in that bloody red list!

Toschenko

sigur
09-03-2008, 16:28
Well, that's quite a to-do list you got there. Best of luck with that. If you seem to get lazy, we'll whip you in shape, don't worry.:p

Crube
09-03-2008, 20:56
:eek:

Many minis there Toschenko... more than I have... (makes me feel a little better ;))

Also, not much green there yet... keep going, I have faith you'll get them all done... and more depressingly for me, all to your exceptional standard...

Keep it up :)

Toschenko
16-03-2008, 22:39
Best of luck with that. If you seem to get lazy, we'll whip you in shape, don't worry.

I won't expect anything less from you :p



Many minis there Toschenko... more than I have... (makes me feel a little better )

Also, not much green there yet... keep going, I have faith you'll get them all done... and more depressingly for me, all to your exceptional standard...

Keep it up

You'll feel even more better when I'll post the rest, then. And don't depress yourself too much mate, your painting efforts are definately worth looking ;)

You won't believe this one, an update with pics!

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1201.jpg

Inspired by the beautiful works of starks333 and georc I tried to use many thin glazes for building up shadows... the result doesn't look half as good, but I hope it would improve when I'll go on with more glazing.

Should I paint glowing runes on the base? And if you think so, what colour should I paint those? Advice needed :angel:

Toschenko

Toschenko
17-03-2008, 16:51
Sorry for double posting :(

I did a little work the anvil base, added more green glazes (this time you should be able to see more) and a lot of crevices... not something OTT since I plan to add coloured runes but a subtle effect (that I quite like in all honesty).
Ok, enough talking:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1210.jpg

I thought about adding turquoise glowing runes and doing some trim on the anvil itself in the same colour just to tie them together. If anyone has thoughts, alternatives, or comments (or critics ;)) I'll be here to read 'em all :D

Toschenko

Crube
17-03-2008, 19:42
Base looks fantastic as it is to be honest... Although if you're going to do glowing runes, then turquoise or blue would be my choice.

What base coat / highlighting did you use to start with?

Toschenko
17-03-2008, 21:37
Base looks fantastic as it is to be honest... Although if you're going to do glowing runes, then turquoise or blue would be my choice.

What base coat / highlighting did you use to start with?

The stone effect is achieved this way (starting from a grey base, I used tamiya grey primer):

base with dheneb stone
glazes with graveyard earth
MANY glazes in the recesses with catachan green, to get a "moss" feeling
highlight the edges with dheneb stone + a bit of white (I still have to do that)

and the crevices:

with the smallest and pointiest (:wtf: if that's a word) brush you have handy, paint thin lines with a mix of 3 khemri brown and 1 dheneb stone, then underline them with pure dheneb stone to simulate the depth. You should be able to see the underlining if you pay attention to the crappy photo I posted, especially in the north-east corner where the light hasn't washed away all the effect :(

I think the alternative to the blue runes would be to paint them in green moss colour (like the hollows between the steps of the base)... maybe I should wait and see how the anvil look resting on it.

If you have some hint or suggestion, I'm always here.

Toschenko

Rikka Rakka
25-03-2008, 14:27
The base looks great. I wouldnt bother with fancy stuff like glowing runes. It looks amazing!

sigur
25-03-2008, 17:45
Looking really great, that base. I'm a cautious rodent so the idea of glowing runes made me run up a tree at first but experience tought me more than once that adding more stuff very seldomly really destroys nice paintjobs so I also suggest: Go for it!;)

Sarlock
30-04-2008, 07:59
This is a sweet log that I just read through completely...nice job love yourstyle and choices of minis to paint. keep it up!!

sigur
03-06-2008, 20:20
It's sweet indeed but where are the updates!?;) What happened to the glowing runes and all that? We all should flog this undead horse of a thread until something happens again.:)

Fenix Felder
05-06-2008, 23:44
Wow love your painting style it looks so clean and cool! i like your dwarfs they are awesome i specially like the skin tone you archieve, mine is very palid can i ask what colors you use? excelent work , but what happened? its been more than 2 months(i think) since your last update keep em comming!!

BTW thanks for the good tips Toschenko they really help me a lot. i'm actually repainting the dwarfs and probably will be posting em tomorrow in case you whant to go and check how they went to my log :D?

Ironbreaker
06-06-2008, 00:47
...How did I miss this painting log?
I'm looking forward to seeing more Dwarf miniatures. The skin on the ones you have already done are fantastic.

FurryMiguell
06-06-2008, 08:02
agree with sigur. something is missing.... updates!

Cheers:D

Toschenko
06-06-2008, 10:54
Well... by popular demand (thanks for the support guys, especially to you, Sigur... your skills would indeed please Nagash himself :D) I guess it's time to take the brushes again... during last month (ehm, maybe I should say two months) I've been a lot less motivated than before, and since when I'm not motivated I have the tendency to not finish anything, this is the result:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1493.jpg

You can spot the anvil base (still at the same point of a month ago :(), some FoW troopers with only the flesh parts done, the anvil itself (at about 60% stage), the remaining two crewmen of the organ gun, the organ gun base (still only primed), ten thunderers from BfSP and an Oath Stone I was experimenting with (to get a good glowing rune effect).
Here's a closeup of the thunderers (metals done in the usual "corroded" feel and flesh missing highlights), sorry for the blurriness:

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc228/Toschenko/IMG_1508.jpg

Thanks again to you all, I hope to post something finished soon (no, really)

Toschenko

FurryMiguell
06-06-2008, 11:37
whueeey! this is a great day! first mass effect, and now this! hur hur:p

Great job mate, cant wait to see you finish some of this stuff

Cheers:D

ekxw
06-06-2008, 12:35
interesting as ever, uhmm Toschenko tell me when you will paint the avatar of war slayer , to paint mine as well at the same time, i havent been painting in a while and i need some good influence XD.

nice work as ever, fir the anvil if i where you i would paint the rune in bright colours like it were like hot iron

Crube
08-06-2008, 13:20
Welcome back Mr Toschenko... you've been missed...

Now paint more Dwarfs... :)