So my friend and I were trying to come up with a tournament space marine bike army. We looked into ravenwing and were unimpressed with the book as a whole as even ravenwing seems to require one to take deathwing terminators as an anchor. We decided to use allies and would like to put together a list for a tournament coming up soon. We would like to see what the internet community thinks about our lists so I will update this thread about once a week until about October when the tournament has been scheduled. The meta in our local area is all over the place so spec.ing to one list is almost impossible. We are seeing some of the farsight star but only one or two as riptides are not quite everywhere yet. My list:

To kick this off I have built a list using BA allies:

HQ: 380
Captain- Relic Blade, Bike, Strom Sheild (190)
Librarian- Epistolary, Bike (185)
Elites:
Troops: 680
5 Bikes- combi-melta, melta, melta, AB, MM (220)
5 Bikes- Combi-plasma, plasma x 2, AB, MM (230)
6 Bikes- Combi-plasma, plasma x 2, AB, MM (255)
Fast Attack:
Stormtalon- Skyhammer ml, tl AC (125)
Stormtalon- Skyhammer ml, tl AC (125)
Heavy Support: 170
Predator- Heavy Bolter Sponsons (85)
Predator- Heavy Bolter Sponsons (85)
1500

HQ: 185
Librarian- Bike, Epistolary (185)
Elites:
Troops: 170
Assault Squad- meltagun, MB (115)
Razorback- Assault Cannon (55)
Fast Attack: 145
Baal Predator- Heavy Bolter Sponsons (145)
500

The idea here is to try and fit many smaller threats within the list with heavy firepower. We dislike the use of land speeders as they are more squishy then they were before with minimal improvement due chiefly to hull points. We both feel that for the cost Stormtalons are a much better buy especially for a fast paced list like this. My Captian is a little naked but I feel he may see some cc but he will only be there really to make my bikers troops.

So what do you guys think so far? Thank you for commenting.

Similar to my last, list, but now with ranged anti tank. Have 5pts to spare as well

+ HQ +

* Company Command Squad
2x Bodyguard, Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken


* Lord Commissar
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon


+ Elites +

* Guardsman Marbo


* Storm Trooper Squad
Flamer, 9x Storm Trooper
* Storm Trooper Sergeant
Hotshot Lasgun, Hotshot Laspistol


+ Troops +

* Infantry Platoon
* Infantry Squad
Flamer
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer
* Commissar
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Platoon Command Squad
2x Meltagun
* Platoon Commander
Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon


* Infantry Platoon
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Sergeant,
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Commissar
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Platoon Command Squad
Meltagun
* Platoon Commander
Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon


* Infantry Platoon
* Heavy Weapons Squad
3x Lascannon
* Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Flamer
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Autocannon, Flamer
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Heavy Bolter
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Heavy Bolter
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Platoon Command Squad
* Platoon Commander
Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon


* Infantry Platoon
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Commissar
Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol,
* Infantry Squad
Flamer, Missile Launcher
* Sergeant
Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol
* Platoon Command Squad
4x Flamer
* Platoon Commander
Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon


+ Heavy Support +

* Griffon

So Im thinking about bringing out my DoC for a 1850 pts league game next week at my FLGS. I decided to try a Flying Circus list, what do you guys think? I know I need a lot of refinement maybe an overhaul but I for sure want 3-4 DP and 1-2 GD. so so any C&C Would be greatly appreciated. I've never played DoC in 6th ed, so I guess will this list even work in the first place. so again, any help you can offer would most helpful! :)

HQ:
X1 Fate Weaver 300 pts.
X1 Lord of Change W/ Greater Gift, Exalted Gift 280 pts

Troops:
X10 bloodletters 100 pts
X10 bloodletters 100 pts

Heavy Support:
X1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch w/ Demonic Flight, Warp-forged Armour, Mastery level 3, Exalted Gift, Greater gift. 355 pts.
X1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch w/ Demonic Flight, Warp-forged Armour, Mastery level 3, Exalted Gift, Greater gift. 355 pts
X1 Deamon Prince of Tzeentch w/ Demonic Flight, Warp-forged Armour, Mastery level 3, Exalted Gift, Greater gift. 355 pts

I've convinced a mate of mine to head over to warhammer world in a few months to our store's latest invasion! tournament (600pts each doubles)....

just thought i'd post our planned armies here and see what people thought of them...



My Army, Tau:

HQ - Fireblade - 60pts

Elites - Riptide - 193pts
- ion accelerator
- advanced targeting system
- early warning override
- cant decide on a support system (currently thinking smart missile system but could use some advice)

Troops - 9 Fire Warriors - 81pts

Troops - 6 Fire Warriors - 54pts

Troops - 6 Fire Warriors - 54pts

Fast Attack - 5 Pathfinders - 55pts

Fast Attack - Piranha - 51pts
- fusion blaster
- blacksun filter

Fast Attack - Piranha - 51pts
- fusion blaster
- blacksun filter

TOTAL - 599pts

ally's army, Grey Knights:

HQ - Coteaz - 100pts

Troops - 5 Jokero Weaponsmiths - 230pts
- Chimera Transport

Troops - 3 Accolytes - 12pts
- each has a boltgun

Fast Attack - Stormraven Gunship - 255pts
- Hurricane Bolters
- psybolts

TOTAL - 597pts


we both like taking "oddball" lists usually and often do fairly well at these sort of events (picked up best army at the last one we went to, missed out on winning the whole thing by a few dice rolls as well :cries: )

on a random aside, any ideas on colour schemes to bring the armies together would be appreciated as well :D

Hey all, new here but not new to the game (oh it should be sonofruss not sonfruss) Been slowly building my space wolves up for a year now been focusing on painting them instead of playing and the few times i have played i get royally butt hurt from the necrons (i blame wraiths)
So i thought i would try something slightly different to my usual list which is:

Rune priest
JOTWW, living lightning
chooser of the slain

5x wolf guard
5x plasma pistols
5x power fists
Drop pod

30x grey hunters
6x melta guns
3x power weapons
3x drop pods

10x long fangs
4x missile launchers
4x heavy bolters
2x razorbacks (twin linked las, heavy bolter)

Vindicator

Basic plan, if you can call it that is rain my drop pods with grey hunters down either on the objective or near to it or just close enough to his warriors for rapid fire from my bolters with any luck that should ruin a few of his squads day.
The wolf guard and my priest are the wraith hunters, he uses whip coils so no matter what weapons or gear i take im striking I1 anyway, the heavy bolter long fangs to provide long range fire support to the wolf guard and grey hunters and the missile launchers to hunt any armour any heavy infantry (wraiths or his immortals) and the vindicator supporting the hunters.
Hoping to take most of his warriors out or tie them in combat to prevent him taking objectives and again a big hope that i can take his wraiths out before they do any harm.
I have considered taking another rune priest with my long fangs and using prescience. So thoughts, tips, tactics?
Cheers and thanks for reading

I've been playing necrons for a little while and i want to try adding CSM in as allies since i have always liked the models and they have some nice units too. I'm inexperienced with CSM so help with the allied detachment would be greatly appreciated.

Destroyer Lord w/mss, weave (with wraiths)

5 warriors in ghost ark
5 warriors in ghost ark
5 warriors in night scythe
5 warriors in night scythe

6 Wraiths w/2 whip coils

3 Annihilation Barges

Chaos Lord w/axe of blind fury, mark of khorne, SoC, VotLW (with cultists)

20 Cultists

1 Heldrake w/Baleflamer

72 models, not a lot but the majority of them are 3+ saves.
Not very easy for me to get objectives I know :(
Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

Thanks
Deasun

Notes/Questions
1] When you attach Maugan to Dark Reaper unit, the unit gets CrackShot, correct?
2] If his attached to unit but on the quad, they all have to fire at what his firing at?
3] Any chance the New Codex will give the WraithCanon a longer range? :)

Strategy:
Want a Eldar anti Space Marine POD army from hell.
My target loves these bloody things. His got every unit nearly in one.
With below list I am thinking the following:
a} Set up the Aegis Def Line on one of my edges.
b} Man this with Maugan ra on the Quad gun and Dark Reapers with him.
c} Surrounding this would be the 3 Troop units, WraithGuard.
d} Just behind them Would be the WraithLords.
e} The WraithSeer would also be just behind them.
d} Now SM general has to come at me. Tough wall to get thru.
and hard hitting if SMs get close enough.
f} Fire Dargons try to get close enough to any tanks/Heavy units to attack.
g} Striking Scorpions use infiltrate to go after a SM troop unit.
H} The long range guns try to take out as much as they can in line of sight.



[HQ]
Maugan Ra {Warlord}
Attached to Unit:
Dark Reapers: {x5}
Exarch: Missle Launcher
Installed in Aegis defense line with Maugan on Quad Gun.

WraithSeer: D-Cannon

[Troops]
WraithGuard: {x10} {x3 units}
SpiritSeer: Enhance

[Heavy]
WraithLord: {x1} {x3 units}
x2 Flamers
Star Canon

[Elites]
Fire Dragons: {x10} {x2 Units}
Exarch: FirePike, Crackshot
WaveSerpent: Shuriken Canon, TL-Shuriken Canon

Striking Scorpions: {x5} {x1 Units}
Exarch: ShadowStrike, Stalker, ChainSabers

So here is my list, is 1500pts exactly:

HQ
Primaris Psyker- XXpts*

Elites
Guardsman Marbo- XXpts**

Troops
Veteran Squad-180pts
3x plasma guns, plasma pistol, Chimera w/. multi-laser and hv. flamer.

Veteran Squad-160pts
2x flamers, 1x heavy flamer, Chimera w/. auto-cannon (FW turret) and hv. flamer.

Veteran Squad-155pts
3x melta guns, Chimera w/. multi-laser and hv. flamer.

Fast Attack
Hellhound Squadron-130pts
1x hellhound w/. heavy bolter.

Heavy Support
Leman Russ Squadron-450pts
3x Battle Tanks 2x w/. hull hv. bolters, 1x w/. hull hv. flamer.

Thunderer Siege Tank Squadron-150pts
1x Thunderer w/. hv. stubber.

Ordnance Battery-140pts
1x Medusa w/. bastion breacher shells, hull hv. flamer.

*Was tempted to go for the Lord Commissar instead of the Primaris, but I figured that the Ld10 would not be so useful seeing as I wont be issuing orders. Will go for Biomancy at the hope of getting Enfeeble and/or Endurance.

**Because you don’t add Sly Marbo to an army- you add an army to Sly Marbo ;)

Hey, so I have a doubles tournament comming up and my partner is taking night lords. i have decided to do a dark mechanicum army using the chaos codex. Unfortunatly writing lists that are not completely retarded is not my strong point. I have 2 lists in mind and i am not sure what to take.

My partners list:

Chaos lord with terminator armour

aegis defence line with an icarus lascannon

5 marines - maby have a flamer depending on the hell brute

10 cultists + heavy stubber

5 warp talons

hellbrute with 2 power scourges or reaper auto cannon and a missle launcher



My list 1

Warpsmith + vet of the long war

5 marines

10 cultists with auto guns

hellbrute as it comes

5 raptors + mark of slanesh + gift of mutation

5 havocs with 4 missle launchers


My list 2

Warpsmith

5 marines

5 marines

5 chosen + 5 combie bolters

hell brute

5 havocs + 4 missle launchers


Any advice would be much appriciated on where we are going wrong

painting log will be up soon for my stuff if any one is intrested in strogg theamed dark mechanicus :)

Hi all

So this is the army I'm going to take to a tournament next weekend. 1850 points. The Farseer is an addition following a game against Tzeench daemons - which I actually won but in which I got annoyed by a DP puppet-mastering my own railheads to submunition my FWs!

So it goes a little something like this:

Commander Shadowsun 155
Command-link Drone

10 Fire Warriors 90

6 Fire Warriors 54

6 Fire Warriors 54

12 Kroot 77
1 Kroot Hound

12 Kroot 77
1 Kroot Hound

XV 104 Riptide 210
Twin-linked Fusion Blaster
Ion Accelerator
Early Warning Override
Velocity Tracker

XV 104 Riptide 210
Twin-linked Fusion Blaster
Ion Accelerator
Early Warning Override
Velocity Tracker

3 Crisis Suits 186
3x2 Plasma rifles (non-linked)
One has Vectored retro-thrusters
Crisis Shas'vre
Puretide Engram Neurochip

5 Pathfinders 55

5 Pathfinders 55

Hammerhead Gunship 131
2 Gun Drones as standard
Submunition Rounds
Blacksun Filter

Hammerhead Gunship 131
2 Gun Drones as standard
Submunition Rounds
Blacksun Filter

Hammerhead Gunship 131
2 Gun Drones as standard
Submunition Rounds
Blacksun Filter

Farseer 168
Singing Spear
Runes of Warding
Spirit Stones
Eldar Jetbike
Eldritch Storm
Mind War

3 Guardian Jetbikes 66

Any thoughts? I've got quite a bit of painting to do in the next 8 days, but should be ok. Doubt I'll win any prizes but stuff will be ready, largely due to using lots of guys who have been around since 3rd edition.

Hi there, I'm new to Necrons and 40k and I'd like to know if you could please help me with my first list. All feedback will be highly appreciated. Thank you!

My list currently looks like this:

DESTROYER LORD (Goes along my Wraiths)
Warscythe + Mindshackle Scarabs + Sempiternal Weave + Tachyon Arrow

10 WARRIORS
+ GHOST ARK

10 WARRIORS
+ GHOST ARK

5 WARRIORS
+ NIGHT SCYTHE

10 IMMORTALS (Gauss Blasters)
+ NIGHT SCYTHE

7 CANOPTEK SCARABS

6 CANOPTEK WRAITHS
+ 3 WHIP COIL

3 DESTROYERS

1 ANNIHILATION BARGE

1 ANNIHILATION BARGE

1 ANNIHILATION BARGE


1850 points right on spot - All help will really be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

so this army list is based off one from White Dwarf 282 (UK) in which a Nurgle host of Lost & Damned led by Typhus attempt to overrun the City of Kast Thravius on Cadia with the Plague of Unbelief.

there have been some modifications to the list already (such as the removal of possessed in favour for the plague marines) and some addtions to make it legal again (the primaris Psyker) with a single ommission (the aspiring champions that led the plague zombies). this is no tourney list but I do want it to work. I can see it may need more anti-armour but i'm kinda stuck there. (the squad names are also from the original list)

model count - 165

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Because I'm a great fan of the backstory of Thousand Sons and really like psychic powers and how they work in 6th, I'm thinking about building a Thousand sons army. They do have a reputation of being the worst unit in the current Chaos marine codex, but this armylist is hopefully competent enough for friendly games without (ab)using a heldrake :shifty:

HQ

• Ahriman, for obvious reasons. A mastery lvl 4 psyker that can use 3 witchfire powers each shooting phase, with stats like a chaoslord (-1 WS) that allows D3 units to infiltrate as well. The infiltrate specially helps thousand sons units with getting in optimal range to do their job : 230 points
• Chaos sorcerer with 3 master levels, Aura of dark glory, spell familiar, Mark of Tzeentch. Because you can't have enough psykers :D 155 points

Troops (Not much options here if you want to play 1k sons)

• 8 Thousand Sons, 1 Aspiring Sorcerer with meltabombs : 247 points. Dedicated Transport : Chaos Rhino 35 points
• 8 Thousand Sons, 1 Aspiring Sorcerer with meltabombs : 247 points. Dedicated Transport : Chaos Rhino 35 points
• 8 Thousand Sons, 1 Aspiring Sorcerer with meltabombs : 247 points. Dedicated Transport : Chaos Rhino 35 points

Units of 9 because that's Tzeentch's favorite number, and it leaves room for an indipendent character in the Rhino.

Elite's

• 4 Chaos Terminators 3 with combi-melta and power axe, 1 with reaper autocannon and chainfist, 1 Terminator Champion with powerfist and combi-melta, all with Mark of Tzeentch : 266 points
• 4 Chaos Terminators with 4 combi-melta's, 2 power axes, 1 powerfist and 1 chainfist, 1 Terminator Champion with powerfist and combi-melta, all with Mark of Tzeentch : 253 points

These guys are meant to blow up vehicles and help out in close combat.

The general idea is to infiltrate the termie unit with the reaper autocannon near one flank of the enemy army, and hopefully roll decent enough to infiltrate one or two units of Thousans sons with Sorcerer/Ahriman attached in a Rhino near them (If you give Ahriman/Sorcerer Infiltrate and they join a 1k sons unit during deployment, they can infiltrate right ?) After that, it depends on which psychic powers I rolled wether the units stay at medium range and zap evertything to pieces, or stay close and zap everything to pieces. The nice thing is that every model (except the rhino's) have a better or as good invulnerable save as the cover terrain provides, so they don't have to get bogged down in difficult terrain. Is there anything that can be improved while still being very 'Thousand-sons-ish' ?

HQ

Succubus Venom Blade + Power Spear = 85 ( with Wyches)

Troops

9 Wyches + Haywire Grenades + Impaler and net
Hekatrix + agonizer = 148

Transport for Wyches
Raider + night sheilds + Retrofire jets =75

10 Kabalite Warriors = 115

Fast attack

3 Reavers + heat lance = 78



Total 501

A big thank you to everyone who has contributed to my other threads as i narrow down further and further onto my competitive Tau army list. Having written numerous Tau lists these past few weeks i finally feel like im close to being as refined as possible and I have finally reached a list that

1. I feel Comfortable with
2. Is Refined and Competitive

The Current list is a long way off my original inspiration of Happy Spike’s Fio Fortress and Shadow Kat’s Stealth ‘O Articles. It is an 1850 army list coming in at 3 points short of the limit and is intended for top tier competitive play.

My Meta and definition of top tier competitive play, is that of army lists that are capable of winning adepticon with a bit of dice luck and being piloted correctly. The main opponents to this list will be Necrons occasionally with allies with Grey Knight next up. The Two best players in our group are still playing the same armies that they were when they were released and that is a Wraithwing list with Dark Eldar allies and the other in a Tervigon swarm list. I must say I do say a lot of Heldrakes and Imperial guard blob squads but both of those are only ever seen as an allied contingent. As you can see the field has variety and strength so i just hope you think my list can handle those type of things

The Game Plan is to set up a ‘Hopping’ Anvil of Riptides, Broadsides and Hammerheads that make best use of their 2+ armour save/ Disruption pod and battlefield position to cause as maximum damage as possible with support of Stealth Marksmen and Mark'O. The Fire Warriors main role is to capture objectives and hug terrain and are only ever allowed to take pot shots if its safe to do so. Opponents that use a lot of painful flame templates (Heldrakes, Helhounds etc) the Fire warriors will be kept in reserve to allow me to hopefully destroy these before they become a problem.

So the Army list:

HQ - Shadowsun: 135 Points
The Warlord. Joins the 2 Crisis suits and goes after Tanks/Monstrous creatures/TEQ
HQ – Mark'O Commander: 152 Points
Dual Missile pods; target lock; drone controller; 2x marker drone
The Mark'O joins the unit of 4 Markerdrones providing them with BS5. This unit will then perform guerilla waarfare on my opponent in the form of JSJ. The dual Missile pods complement the Markerlights range and with a target lock is able to cause damage to nearly any target

ELITES - XV8 Crisis Team: 104 Points
2x Crisis Shas'ui; 2x Dual Fusion blasters
As i have already mentioned, will be joined by Shadowsun. Then screened by the Piranhas Drones to provide a 2+ Cover save
ELITES - XV104 Riptide: 190 Points
Early Warning Override; Ion accelerator; TL Fusion blasters; Velocity tracker
ELITES - XV104 Riptide: 190 Points
Early Warning Override; Ion accelerator; TL Fusion blasters
The two big hitters, the Fusion blasters dont complement the Ion accelerator but they do, do the job of keeping my opponents vehicles pinned back

TROOPS – 9 Fire Warriors: 81Points
TROOPS – 9 Fire Warriors: 81Points
TROOPS – 9 Fire Warriors: 81Points
Easily the weakest link in my army. The Squad size of 9 means they have the largest ability to take casualties unchecked for the least amount of points

FAST ATTACK – 2 Piranhas: 100 Points
2x Fusion blasters
The attached drones, shield Shadowsun, whilst the piranhas go tank sniping. Had a great play with them recently, see end for details*
FAST ATTACK – 4 Marker Drones: 56 Points
Self explanatory, goes with Mark'O (I really need to get a Pol'O)

HEAVY SUPPORT - Hammerhead Gunship: 190 Points
Railgun; Submunitions; TL Smart Missile System; Disruption pod; Longstrike
Longstrike is the only way to run a Hammerhead now. Hamemrheads are not number1 competitive choice, however its hard to skip the best gun in the game
HEAVY SUPPORT - XV88 Broadside Team: 236 Points
3x Broadside Shas'ui; 3x TL High yield missile pods; 3x TL Smart Missile System; Early warning override; 2 Missile drone
HEAVY SUPPORT - XV88 Broadside Team: 236 Points
3x Broadside Shas'ui; 3x TL High yield missile pods; 3x TL Smart Missile System; Early warning override; 2 Missile drone
The Anti-everything. The amount of shots these unis put out is frightening, can hit fliers thanks to quantity and Twin-linked. Only thing they cant deal with is AV14

So there we have it 1848/1850pt Tau army. Overall what do you think? Its been working pretty well for me, in an ideal world i would want another troop choice but unfrtunately we cant have everything.

*So the Story. I was playing against a chaos army which contained 2 Vindicators. I set up a majority of my fusion blasters to be able to intercept them if they decided to make a B-line for my Broadsides. He decided to sweep them behind his force down the other flank and i decided to chase them down with my 2 Piranhas. Other things happen and my next turn after he had moved them towards my line, my Piranhas took a B-line max speed at one of them sitting infront of one of them by about 2 inches. I then proceeded to Markerlight the second Vindicator from my stealth team hitting all 4. Turning the Piranhas snap fire from BS1 to BS5. Safe to say that tank was melted and left wreckage so Vindicator number 1 could no longer go around my Piranhas. Caused him a few problems for a few more turns

Let me know what you think