The Gut'Reapa' (orcs and gobs army, probably image heavy soon)

[Solun Decius]

It looks really cool, the whole getup. I think planning ahead is a bit overrated
Much too often I'm afraid to start anything because I'm still planning every detail and I might ruin one possibility by committing to another. The projects where I succeed, and also enjoy the most are the ones where I just blindly start cutting and gluing and painting and let the whole thing kind of evolve during the process. That way I'm making progress and creativity flows better while you see something happening.
Anyway, I hope you'll get those new gobbos painted soon, and the ones you already painted can surely be used in another unit instead.

EDIT:

...funny enough this is at the bottom of peoples 'unitfiller tollerance'.

It's not even really a unitfiller, as all the gobbos are still there. 20 bases, 20 goblins!

[Urgat]

Yeah, well, I didn't see the point of that topic in the end. On one side it's "I like fillers, they're cool" versus "I don't like fillers, they're lame". Heh, this is clearly going to get somewhere
Anyway, I got the spider, I'll copy/paste my comment from Solun's plog:

Mffff. So it's a pleasure to build the spider... until you reach the most critical part, aka the face/eyes piece. It won't fit fine at all for mine, it'll require a good amount of greenstuff to have it blend in with the rest of the head. See:

Did you get the same problem, Solun? For those building it, I advise that when you reach step 4, you check if it is possible to start with step 4d first, and add the fangs AFTER the eyes part... It's probably also a better idea to apply the undercoat before gluing the back legs, too.

Anyway, thanks to Warflag, I just got the 4th goblin for my skullcrusher (what was the odds of finding someone who had just the one gob I was missing from such an old kit?), I can't thank him enough, really Sadly, I got to admit the call of the big arachnoid was stronger than the call of the little gob, but I'll give him proper lover soon enough

[Solun Decius]

Like I said on my log, for me the most important thing with kits where many partscome together at the same plce, to try to glue them all at the same time while the glue (plastic glue, not superglue) is still soft. Then you can keep fitting and molding it a bit in your hands until everything fits as well as it can.
Basically, don't wait for each step in the instructions to dry before taking the next step.
Also, I needed greenstuff anyway for that part. The parts were level, but the was still a gap.

[Dark Aly]

Nice blog Urgat. Wish I had some of the old common goblins I only have the old metal night goblin command. Any thoughts on the best way to make the current ones look half decent?

[Urgat]

Nice blog Urgat.

Thanks

Wish I had some of the old common goblins I only have the old metal night goblin command. Any thoughts on the best way to make the current ones look half decent?

The current goblins? Their problem, imho, is that they're way too big. Can't really see how to fix that, sorry

Anyway, the spider is on hold, because I live in a flat, when I want to apply undercoat I have to do it at the windows, and well, it's very windy these days, and if I try to undercoat the spider, all the paint will fly back in the room...

So instead, i'll be working on my warboss. Finally... he's been more or less on hold for years, litterally a dozen years actually. For now I've made a quick picture of how he should look like:

I'll post his fluff together with pictures of the actual mini, whenever he's done (hopefully before 2020). He should be rather unique, well, I hope.
There's actually going to be two of him, one in this position, a "prototype", that might be a tad rushed, and another one on a mount, that will stand as a gigantic spider.

[BogBoy]

Thats a killer lookin' bloke, ghastly sorta like an undertaker. The turkey neck thing he has going on will look great on a mini. I commend you on your artwork and dang you've built up a nicely done greenskin horde over the years I can see.

[Aulbath]

Inspired by Batman Returns?

[Urgat]

Thats a killer lookin' bloke, ghastly sorta like an undertaker. The turkey neck thing he has going on will look great on a mini. I commend you on your artwork and dang you've built up a nicely done greenskin horde over the years I can see.

Thanks

Inspired by Batman Returns?

Nah, based on Phileas Fogg (around the world in 80 days).

[Aulbath]

Nah, based on Phileas Fogg (around the world in 80 days).

I think this guy has a more fitting personality for a Goblin though

[Urgat]

Yeah, well, I can think of at least a couple other fictionnal "big boned" characters in tuxedo

[snottlebocket]

Yeah, well, I can think of at least a couple other fictionnal "big boned" characters in tuxedo

Still funny though. I was looking at the skulker's with a friend and we were both laughing at the silly little mask and cape saying someone ought to do an Orcman and Roblin general and bsb duo.

[Urgat]

Alright, still windy, I managed to half undercoat the spider (d'huh ><), and I'm working on night shifts so not too motivated with painting these days.
So instead, I'll post the rules that replace True Line of Sight in my gaming circle (ripped straight from the rules I've written for my own gaming system, note that I don't claim parentship for the idea, no doubt a dozen other game systems use that too):

Units all have a set Unit Size (US, replaces Unit Strenght, hey ), it's a fixed statistic, it ranges from 1 to 10, and goes like that:

US1: swarms, snotlings, and other similar stuff
US2: goblins, halflings, dwarfs, skavens, etc
US3: humans, elves, orcs, etc
US4: cavalry, ogre sized infantry, charriots, warmachines, etc
US5: bigger stuff like giants or dragons (haven't felt the need to make it more accurate yet). If someone ever gets stuff like rhinox riders, they'll take the spot and move the monsters up one point though.

A unit can see through a unit that has a US inferior to its own, following the regular BSB rules (45°, etc). Otherwise, it cannot. The boundaries of the units are set by the bases.

Pretty simple and efficient, prevents all abuses, and allows any conversions or crazy basing people want.

note: I'm not too sure about skavens actually, I haven't really had the opportunity to compare the new ones, maybe they're more US3 than US2, not that it's very important, I haven't faced a skaven player since 5th ed, so...

[Urgat]

So I said no more pic of the common gob unit before it's completed, but... I lied

I figured it'd be interesting to show the bases before they're obscured by the minis themselves. I'm still wondering if I should put the leaves on the tree or not... what do you think? I'm afraid it wouled be really too busy with them, but I haven't actually tried ( I've been lazy ).

[Cragum]

looking forward to seeing these goblins all together!
have to ask, apart from now having sneaky skulkers, what do you feel is t he good point behind having goblins over night goblins?

[Urgat]

They fit my fluff
If you listen to the Warseer people, they still believe night goblins are better. I suppose they are right: the netters really makes the night gobs good. And I can't really understand why night gobs can swap their hand weapons for spears for free, while common gobs have to pay for them.
But I like the fact the common gobs can have a shield and a bow, and while they're not as good, they're probably not an horrible choice. And well, up till now, the common gobs I was using were the Norse ones (see first page of this plog), and they are gifted: they got the luck of the devil (I still plan on using them, they'll be my honour guard. I wish I could get my hands on the hill goblin rules, those dudes deserve to be tougher). So I wanna see if those will get as lucky

[Urgat]

And here they are, dity, noisy, throwing crap and insults at enemies and allies alike like a flea-infested dog: the common goblins! A pure extract of nastyness and cowardice



Same as usual: ultra bright colours, kitsh old school colour scheme, nmm metals and Awesome Aura of Photo Blurring. It's a unit of 20 goblins, and there is 20 goblins in the unit. The musician's instrument looks much better on this pic than in flesh, oddly enough. They're equiped with bows, shields and hand weapons. Full command and three nasty skulkers.

The plan: painting the "nasty skulkers" (pogo stick one already painted actually), and next, adding 20 gobs to those. They will be made to either go between the first and second ranks of the unit shown here when going deep (as I'll need a bit more mobility in the second rank in that setup), or on the left and right if going horde.
How they'll work:
First, they'll pepper the enemy with their bows (I know, I'd put Sun Tzu to shame with my strategic genius).
Then they charge/take the charge. Hopefuly the nasty skulkers will deal some wounds but, mainly, with the champion and them taking almost all the front rank, they should reduce the amount of wounds taken on the first round of combat to a minimum. Next rounds, well, they'll have to manage with their 5+/6++ saves. So they cost about the same as night goblins with nets (bows+skulkers in a unit of 20 is the same price as the netters), will be more killy, less resistant (at least in the later rounds they'll take more wounds), but more reliable: my night goblins have an uncanny tendency to net entangle themselves with their own nets.
Other advantage: they piss all over all those night goblin armies! (harm totally intended for all the all night goblins players! Hah! You don't like it? Come and challenge me, I'll pm you my adress "taunts some more")

[Lorcryst]

Heh, too bad you're a bit far from me, or else I would rise to that challenge, as a Night Goblin player (BTW, I started my army in 6th ed, way before they were soooo good ...).

Anyways, very nice unit, chaotic yet ranked, as gobboes should be, me likey !

[Urgat]

Heh, too bad you're a bit far from me, or else I would rise to that challenge, as a Night Goblin player (BTW, I started my armed in 6th ed, way before they were soooo good ...).

I was thinking of you among others when I wrote that challenge
And yeah, 6th ed was the golden age for goblins

[Little Joe]

Wow, I am stunned. Don't you dare put leaves on that tree, it would just distract.

If I had any I would also like to make two units of 40 common goblins with bows, shields and skulkers. Funnily chances of survival are comparable to NG with netters, but you have skulkers to get a shot at killing enemy characters outright (NG get one fanatic and are the same costs) .
I think this unit will be rightfully feared by units with characters.

[Urgat]

Then just get some

Yeah, I've decided against the leaves in the end, they'll probably end on the arachnarok base though.
Reading about the rules again, seems my plan for the skulkers won't work as well as expected, the command gits must stay in the front rank right? so it's one of the skulkers that would go in the second rank, sadly.