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    good vs. evil

    Im about to kick my own butt and force myself to get some project work done. Its a rather big one. I have a CSM army, which I try to paint to a pretty decent standard, and I started a SM force new. The aim is to build the armies to be playable but aswell to be part of a display in which the two forces clash. A lot of converting and painting has to be done, and this log keeps track of the progress.

    In the beginning was the dread

    His base shows the structure of a planetary surface as seen in the movie pitchblack (quite). Most bases of both forces will be that way.

    Second is a squad of the marines. All converted to the treat that serves sure grip. Theyll all get swords.

    Last but not least is a character. Have not decided his role yet.

    Sorry for the scrollbar of doom. Must learn how to post properly.
    Someone tell me how to integrate the pics into the post itself.

    So much for now, tell me what you think, updates acoming soon
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    Re: good vs. evil

    [img] link here [/img]

    Looking great. Really cant wait to see more!
    99% of armies are Alpha Legion.
    They are just so well disguised you dont realise it.
    There is a 99% chance your army is Alpha Legion.
    You just dont realise it either

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    Re: good vs. evil

    Thanx raven. Tried that , but it didnt show in the preview. is that normal?
    More tomorrow, maams calling (4am in europe )
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    Re: good vs. evil

    Trying to post a pic without attaching it.
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    Re: good vs. evil

    Great, it works.
    So heres some more


    A sideview of my Chaos dread.
    Its actually a pretty massive conversion. The work does not show in the obvious, though. The toes have been seperated and then bent to add a dynamic feel. I also tried to fill the gap that opens between his plasmacannon and the body with technical looking stuff, tubes and wires and so on. The dynamics on a whole came out quite well I think. Represents his khornish dedication. Since Ill stick to the 3.5 dex this also still makes sense.

    A friend of bleeding eye, the dread.
    The saw is the law, is what I say. I have some twenty old termies of which by now seven or eight are converted to fit the khornate theme. A lot of sawing, as said

    The opposition, gnar, gnar
    these guys are a lot of work actually. For the next posts I will show some w.i.p. pics so that you see how much detail is in them. Part of it is achieved by painting, much aswell by adding trimmings and ornaments of all kinds.

    Another view of the five I have so far.

    Maybe a short note on army composition.
    The SM:
    Name : Emperors shield
    They have traits. The one that gives them sure grip and counterstrike, and the one that allows six dreads. Dont know that in English, but the interested will know

    HQ
    Commander with command squad
    Razorback

    Librarian in termie armour with squad
    Landraider

    ELITES
    Termie squad
    Landraider

    Techmarine in full armour with servants
    Razorback

    venerable dread with twinlinked autocannon and plasmascythe (dreadCCW and plasmagun) using vehicle design rules (EXPENSIVE, dammit)

    TROOPS

    4x
    six marines with serge, bolters and swords, different assault weapons
    Razorbacks for each squad

    FAST ATTACK

    nothing planned so far, but jetbikes are tempting. This would very expensive and/or time-consuming. If I did it, I would go for four jetbikes per squad, as, as you might have noticed, the crucial numbers in this army are four and six.

    HEAVY SUPPORT

    Dreads!
    One: Gatling long barreled Heavy Flamer, yeah. Could aswell use inferno cannon, dunno yet. Plus heavy CCW counting as two of them.

    Two: Both arms with CCW and built-in twinlinked heavy bolters

    Three: Lasercannon-tower, har har. Two twinlinked lascannons plus twinlinked plasmaguns coaxial

    Makes four dreads total.

    Techmarine for technical maintainance

    Up next is the librarian. No conversion work here, as the mini really rocks imho.
    Also the first razorback comes. But I need plasticard first.


    On the chaos side a lot has allready been done, Ill post more as soon as I have pics. The army is called The Bleeding legion, Legio Cruda. It is khornate, but has sorcerors aswell. IMHO th ebloodgod does not at all care how decent bloodshed is achieved. A good psy-attack can make some heads burst in a bloodfountain, which he should admire.

    Lemme know what you think.
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    Re: good vs. evil

    Wow! I love the Good marines, that colour scheme is amazing, it looks alot like the one I use when I play DOW actually. I really like it, especially the shading on the white, gives it alot definition, but it's clearly white, real nice stuff!

    I really like the colour for the bolters, it's a real nice non-metallic gold, any chance getting a recipe? I really have trouble with not metallic metal colours.
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    Re: good vs. evil

    Update time

    Here it comes, the workspace-pic. A must, I reckon in other logs.




    Talking about messy stuff, do you like plaguemarines?
    These are by far the most beautiful available.
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    Re: good vs. evil

    The above seen plaguers are in different stages of w.i.p., of course. Talking w.i.p., I have some more Im working on right now. First off, a Tzeentch Lord, a conversion that turned out better than hoped. I especially like the wing-extensions on the back that cover the cuts. Will look even better painted.



    Next is a posessed marine. He will be mounted on a flying base. Thus the pose, somehow ascending.


    And of course, the empire is not idle. My librarian, not at all converted, since the mini is so cool. Very much to do still, but as overtspy reckoned a colourscheme worth the effort. It works out to be white in the end, but is based on four steps of grey. No priming, by the way.


    More soon.


    P.s.: @ Overtspy: I will make pics of w.i.p. on the gold stuff and explain how its done. For now, I actually use metallic colours for the effect, but I apply them with nmm technique.

    Cheers, Bart
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    Re: good vs. evil

    Five Terminators. As mentioned before I like the old ones, and have put a serious amount of work in them.

    Pics are big, gonna fix that in the future.

    First is the first mini I used green stuff on. You would have guessed that anyway, probably.


    Now some sawing. Repositioned a lot on the next guys. Those big pics make one thing clear: I have still some work to be done on these!







    Group shot after revisiting them.... goddammit
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    Re: good vs. evil

    I allways found the old tanks to be best fitting the chaotic fluff.
    Thats why I use them, and also to make a difference between csm and my sm. Represents the age of the old legions quite well, too.





    And the first of a couple of rhinos.. Also still w.i.p.



    The fun on these is to paint the freehand patterns.
    A Landraider is still in the pipe. It will pop up when the banners are done. Watch out for this piece. You will like it
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    Re: good vs. evil

    Last post for tonight. Some bikers very much w.i.p.. But worth to show anyway.
    Seems like I have to rework my colourscheme. Since they are called the Bleeding legion, I wanted a dark colour, rusted and old, wih blood pouring from the gaps. Silly enough, I piicked the lightest highlight to be red. That, obviously kills theeffect of the blood. I will therefore change the pallette to completely brown tones, so that the red comes out better, and contrasts on the armour.
    Lets see wether that works out better...







    Hope you like that crap

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    I love the White mariens here
    and that khornate predator is truly beutiful. I love the freehand on it
    99% of armies are Alpha Legion.
    They are just so well disguised you dont realise it.
    There is a 99% chance your army is Alpha Legion.
    You just dont realise it either

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    You sir are a god amongst men! Those white marines are awesome! Not saying your chaos is bad (as they feckin rule also) but I think you should pour all your effort into making them a massive army. Btw that dread is so Old-skool it makes my eyes bleed with nostalgia good work man, I shall be keeping an eyeball or two on this!

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    I love the Emperor's Shields. And does anyone else think that "sure grip" is a much better description of the rule than "true grit"? "True grit" never made any sense at all. From now on, I'm calling it "Sure Grip". Join me, brethren!!

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    Those are some beautiful models. Great work on both sets.

    Now we demand painting tutorials!

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    "True grit" never made any sense at all.
    It's an homage to the John Wayne movie "True Grit," in which Wayne's character, Rooster Cogburn, fires a lever action rifle one-handed and then flips the rifle around while holding the lever to re-cock it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warflag View Post

    The opposition, gnar, gnar
    these guys are a lot of work actually. For the next posts I will show some w.i.p. pics so that you see how much detail is in them. Part of it is achieved by painting, much aswell by adding trimmings and ornaments of all kinds.

    Another view of the five I have so far.
    I demand a tutorial on how you made those Falcon'esk helmets!
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    this sir, is beauty.

    not only the white marines (which are excellent, i must add) but also the chaotic ones.

    the conversions are quite awesome, but effective, (i especially like the marine holding the sword on his back) but also impressive is the paintjob and freehand you've done on them.

    and, as some friend of us might say...
    This-needs-TUTORIAL!!!
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    OMG those marines are amazing! Superlative work, Sir! And that acrobatic dreadnought is impressive too

    Some closer pic wouldn't hurt, BTW ... I'm referring in particular on the loyalist sarge, I'd like to take a closer look at him.

    I'm waiting eagerly for your next updates,

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    Well then, Toschenko, thy will shall be done.
    These will be the last supersize pics Ill post, promise

    Serge, closest up possible with the technical support I have atm.





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    Re: good vs. evil

    Goddammit, these pics show some major flaws on my minis

    However, cant resist to post them anyway.

    In order:

    Brother Veron



    Brother Gaster



    Brother Heggist



    Cheers, tutorials and stuff under construction.

    Im preparing painting tuts and one for sculpting those helmets...
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