good vs. evil

[warflag]

Good point, Toschenko. That is what I thought aswell. But then, if you take a closer look at the mentioned coolmini pieces you will see that the transitions at least do not get lost. The pristine look does, though.
Donīt know wether it makes sense when the mini is finished.
Iīve seen your IF marine. Well done, the weathering looks cool and suitable.

After all they will become part of a battle-scene diorama one day. Therefore the damage makes them more realistic.

Any other or same oppinions?

Cheers
Bart

[Solun Decius]

I really like the weathering, especially after you added the dirt too.
I think it's appropriate to have it only on the legs, that way you still have your pristine white on more or less the whole model, but also with added realism.

Tosehnko's weathering (since you brought it up) is very beutifully done too, but I find the even distribution draws a little bit away from the realism. Makes it look a bit self-inflicted, like a pattern.

[Iknaar]

Your loyalists look sweet.. as do the renegades. I really like the gold freehand it looks superb. Overall? Very nice.

[Radium]

Very awesome! You sir, have proven marines can actually look good.

[xedric]

Ive just read through all 12 pages of this log.

Wow. Just wow.

Then to your q about weathering. A good soldier will keep his armor clean and whole IMO. But while fighting and marching you cant keep it completely clean. So Im with Solum. Some dirt+weathering on legs might be the way to go.

[warflag]

Thanks folks. I appreciate the input.
Toschenkoīs thoughts where what prevented me from doing it in the first place. On the other hand I thought in the direction of Solun and Xedric and decided to give it a try. I think the result justifies the experiment.
What makes this new twist a bit complicated are the more sophisticated models, as there are the characters, and specially the dread.
The real problem is not the danger to cover up the nice white, but the fine ornaments. The might be overlooked, when there is too much battledamage. On the other hand I can not paint the ood scratch here and there. It must be credible.
A balance thing. As is the level of ornaments. As is the level of painting in general, considering this will be a playable army in the end.

Regarding the last point there is good news. Iīll quit my kitchen job in a few weeks. I work there at nights to support my studies. As these are finished and a new job starts next month, I will have a lot more time at nights to get stuff done. A considerable speed-up will be the result I hope.
Next up will be my tanks, which will get some really fine freehand stuff. Not the easy stuff weīve seen at the beginning of this thread. Some damn top level crap.

Thanks to YOUR input and participation I was able to drive this project into a direction that allowed me to improve a lot. I paint minis for fifteen years now, but the last year I came forward thrice as much as in the decade before that. The first squad was the ignition for something I always wanted to do. I am the type of guy the needs the occasional kick up his butt.
This great community did that on this log, and I want to take the opportunity to say THANK YOU ALL for doing so. I got nobody nearby who could help with this. My only buddy who is into these games would brake both his arms if he tried to paint a mini nicely. And coolmini sucked at being helpful, too. Itīs become a commercial platform lately, and those who donīt advertise there, bash senselessly whatever they see.

So thank you folks, longtimers and occasionals. These two armies will be great, and you will have taken an important part!

Oh, and I am not drunk I just thought it was about time to say something personal.

Up the Irons
Cheers
Bart

[Morthai]

That dread is really looking great! I also love colors you've chosen to paint your chapter. Simple yet very effective.

Awesome

[Toschenko]

Next up will be my tanks, which will get some really fine freehand stuff. Not the easy stuff weīve seen at the beginning of this thread. Some damn top level crap.

We'll be eagerly waiting, then

Thanks to YOUR input and participation

We should thank you for YOUR inputs and tips, and for sharing all those beautiful works you've done. I agree with you on coolminiornot, I registered but never put something up since I felt the same... too much advertising, too much people bashing good works (and too often said bashing comes from people who never hold a brush in hand, that's the worst part)

Oh, and I am not drunk
Bart

Better for you to point out that

Toschenko

[Solun Decius]

Good to hear your positive experience on the forums. Don't forget there's a bunch of us getting inspiration from you too!
So, thanks for your hard work and for sharing it!

[LordKhaine]

i love these space marines, they just look fantastic, would look great on the table i bet, they are very unique and the helmets just make the models soooo good

loving the white though, makes me feel a bit jealous haha

[xedric]

Don't forget there's a bunch of us getting inspiration from you too!

Amen to that!

[warflag]

Thatīs the way it works! Pushing each other to new horizons.

Btw, changed my avatar, since I reached the Librarian status the last week or so. Couldnīt do that for the chaplain status, since I donīt have one ready to show. But I bought Tigurius. He will be converted to fit my army. Smurf characters are perfect for this, as their logo only needs to be filled in with a little GS, and ready is the shield.
After some clean-up action some weeks ago I will dig out my csm again for some fun piccies. The fifth guy from the second squad will show up, as well as some basic troops from my csm I havenīt shown before. A much lower paint level there, but youīll see.

Give me an hour..

Cheers
Bart

[warflag]

Used this hour (or two) to make a backdrop thatīs big enough. Reminded me that I hate painting skies of all kinds...

However, chaos stuff.

A simple squad



with some real classics in it



Five guys compensating for something...



And five guys that need to be revisited urgently. URGENTLY!




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[warflag]

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And the funpic



The fifth marine of squad 2 is in the middle. And the only five berzerkers I have painted up to TT-standard. They have black helmets, not red. I thought Iīd do something different. Think it looks good. I used a pretty easy trick to make them look interesting. Simply painted chestnut ink over the black. Makes them look shiny and polished.
I started grey-priming the backpacks tonight. Couldnīt do anything else as a Tony Jaa movie was on tonight. I love facepunching movies

Hope you like it!

More Shields over the next week. And some revisting of my csm. I need to paint something else than white

Cheers
Bart

[KlutzyKultist of Kaoz]

Ok, now I want to share a bit of fluff, for those interested.

Brother Sistinas, once High King of Garetha and Chapter Master of the Emperorīs Shield Chapter

This dreadnaught, as all of them, is a king in his own right. He was the second chapter master. Embedded in his holy war-tomb he fights the chaos for six thousend years now, and he is still not tired. Though a man-machine like all dreadnaughts, he is in one way different. He does not support his brothers in need, but leeds them to battle. He did not speak or communicate in any way for centuries, but the chaplains of the chapter know to read his actions.
In a way he seems to feel the presence of the foul traitors. Never has he failed to find those who turned his homeworld into a barren wasteland, that allows no life. And never will he allow to flee the battlefield. He does not allow to take prisoners. His seed is destruction, and the harvest is revenge for his kinfolk.
He is accompanied by three fellow dreadnaughts, battlebrothers of old, in fact the oldest members of the chapter, the last who remeber the day when the exterminatus took two billion souls of Garetha, in the blink of an eye. From a world, rich and prosper, and true to the emperor like not many are.
His task is not fulfilled yet, as the ones who brought mischief to his world are still out there, carrying a hidious secret, seeking to destroy mankind at any cost. He will unveil this secret and wipe out the traitors to release the souls of Garetha before he allows himself to rest.

this is the best fluff i have read in a lifetime (16 years) of reading.this is all fantastic. i just sat and read this log for like 4 hours. it is amazing keep it up.

[Solun Decius]

Oooooh! That background really does the trick, especially in the last group photo.
Nice!

[Uriain]

I just gotta say man. Your marines (both sides) are great stuff. Excellent painting and converting.

Now while I bug you about the Menoth Warjack thing, putting that Cryx Deathjack (I believe it was) was a nice touch, because not only did it show your Dread against a similar sized model. But shows how an enemy "Walker" style unit will compare to it from a stance and aggressiveness point of view.

You make it hard not to pick up a big of marines and start converting lol. Though if I started an army after every project log I saw that was good, I would have roughly a hundred armies lol.

Keep up the excellent work, I eagerly look forward to every update for both of these excellent armies

[Mr.chair]

Love your work as always. That weathering is looking really nice.

[warflag]

Thanks everyone!

Klutzy: Nice to hear someone liked it. You are actually the first to mention it. I got more of that, and now that I know ther is interest I will post that too. Itīs a whole story of how the chapter came to be, and how garetha was destroyed.

Uriain: I know your pain I want them all, everytime I see a good army..

Nice the new background found friends.

A wip piccie. The fifth man.

From here itīs spacewolves grey for the whole squad. The damn fortress grey took me longer than freeing all the bits from an ork boys box from the sprues.



More to come this WE.

Cheers
Bart

[KlutzyKultist of Kaoz]

Im looking forward to more background stuff cause seriously, that dreadnaught stuff was freaking awesome.

Looking forward to it.