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    54mm Pre-Heresy Dark Angel

    I've been commissioned to do an elaborate conversion of the existing 54mm Space Marine (Artemis), turning him into a pre-Heresy marine. Although I'm a little time away from starting the actual sculpting, I thought I'd share my concept work (with the client's permission).

    This initial illustration was based on the client's vague request for a pre-Heresy space marine.



    I thumbed through my Horus Heresy Collected Visions and noted what I thought were the coolest elements that had a clear "pre-Heresy" feel to them and immediately alighted upon the illustrations of Ultramarines with faceplates riveted over their Mk2/3 helms: very sinister.

    This next image was to help the client visualize what sort of pose the client wanted. I recommended an upright pose to assist with playability (as, if the model had a more "typical" squat pose, it would need a 60mm base, reducing its ability to manouevre on a densely terrained tabletop).



    I also added more meat to the helmet concept (which the client loved), giving it a bit more detail and attention and adding a long-range comm-link to the helmet.

    Note also the Mk1 bolter from the first illustration, based on the original RTB-01 design that I consider to be an icon of 20th Century design! Unfortunately, after seeing this sketch, the client decided on giving the model an assault focus.



    One of the important things with a 54mm conversion - especially one that's a commission for a paying client - is that it has to be planned out in exact detail before you start to ensure (a) that the client is entirely happy with what he's getting and (b) that you know how to everything you plan on doing in advance, because there's nothing like promising a certain effect to your client only to discover later that you have no idea how to do it.

    In that vein, I did this sketch of the leg. Artemis has Mk7 legs, with the separate knee-pad, so this is going to be an area where I have to a substantial rebuild.

    The client finally decided that he wanted me to concentrate on Dark Angel concepts, with an "assault" feel - he indictated an illustrated in the Horus Heresy book of a Space Wolf with a big, round shield to give me an idea of what sort of look he wanted.

    With that in mind, I did this:



    This is another good example of why this sort of pre-planning is so important when working for a client. He specified the desire for the wings on the helmet but, as I was drawing them, I suddenly realized that I had no idea how I would sculpt them. Well, sculpting them would be easy enough. Actually, it was how to keep them from then breaking every time the client so much as dared to breathe on them. GW provides the solution, of course. I will use the plastic wings from the Dark Angels plastic boxed set.

    The client loved the new chest plastron design (Mk2). He has now asked me to look into giving the model a mace (which is nice of him, because I complained about how rubbish I am at sculpting swords - for something that's just basically long and straight they take me absolutely bloody forever!).

    I'm also going to start work on the helmet tonight or tomorrow - time to break out the Dremel!

    R.

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    Judging by the sketches, this is going to be a really cool project. However, as I have never seen you sculpting for all I know you could be rubbish . I'm sure your not though so do you have any pictures of any other sculpting work you've done?

    Looking forward to seeing this progress.
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    My expertise is mainly in conversions rather than full-on sculpts as I rarely have the patience to finish them. However, being paid helps concentrate the mind.

    Here's a substantial conversion I did a few years ago. I've improved since this:



    I should add that I sculpted the head.

    R.

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    Awsome concepts.
    Can't wait to see pics of the WIPs.

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    My expertise is mainly in conversions rather than full-on sculpts as I rarely have the patience to finish them. However, being paid helps concentrate the mind.

    Here's a substantial conversion I did a few years ago. I've improved since this:



    I should add that I sculpted the head.

    R.

    Based on Adrian Smith's artwork right? Love the concept art btw...great to see Space Marines with no squatting positions, GW models always seem to be squatting...why?
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    A quick update - no more pics yet.

    I resisted the urge to start sculpting the head last night. I know you 'blog watchers'll be disappointed by that but - take note - this is a project that must be planned to the smallest degree before one actually starts the cutting.

    However, I'm working on what should be the last concept sketches before going to the colour concept. I'll try to finish these today and post them once the client has had his say. If the client is happy with the final proposal, I'll be ordering my materials.

    Because this is a professional piece, I won't be doing the usual "bodge it as best I can from what I've got" job which is my usual approach. Instead, I'll be getting in the best tools and materials I can. So GW will be benefiting from my custom as I'll be getting the new clamp and saw from them (and I'll include a review of these tools as part of the blog). Also, Heresy Miniatures will be getting my order for Brownstuff and ProCreate. Most of the sculpting will be done with ProCreate, but I'll be mixing small quantities of brown stuff in with the PC for the harder edges (like the armour plates) and small quantities of green stuff in with the PC for the more flexible areas (the loincloth and, now, a short cloak which I'm adding subject to the client's approval).

    R.

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    I really like the concept artwork, it's a shame that it's going to be an assault-ish marine, I really liked the bolter holding pose.

    Also, are you gonna post the last few concepts?
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    Nearly finished on what - client allowing - should be the last few concept sketches. They're a bit more elaborate than previous ones, so are taking longer.

    R.

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    The sketches look mighty fine! I look forward to seeing you realizing them!

    I really liked the pose in the second picture with the bolter though... oh well
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    Well, were's the mini?? Those sketches look great, I'm really eager to see them 3D!
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    This is certainly going to be worth a watch, is the cloak going to incorporate the usual DA hood? I'd hate to see that lovely looking helmet obscured by anything.
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    Love the winged helmet design. Not too OTT but still very maiestic.

    The 80's bolter with its ginormous sickle clip is fantastic.

    The Dark Angels legion is a great choice. Bright colours on 54mm models look a little garish, but the black colour scheme of the pre-Heresy legion would look really imposing. Has your client comissioned you to do the painting as well?

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    Rather than labour on with something obvious, I've taken a scan of my latest concept sketch. I'm not going to start sculpting until I've had the downpayment from the client. I'm doing the sketches to help him decide exactly what it is he wants.



    The shield is based on a medieval Italian design (not sure about the "power" cables on the front - I think I'll put them on the back and leave the front plain). The mace is WIP. I probably won't go with a conventional ball-head but something spikier and more "Dark Angels".

    The right leg is wrong, but I feel like I need to have the parts of the actual model in my fingers to get it exactly right. Basically, I want him to be taking a step forward, bent forward slightly - this is intended to balance the client's need for a dynamic pose but one that's less awkward on the tabletop than the existing "Artemis" model.

    R.

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    Fantastic concept sketches, precinctomega. I didn't know you had such skills.

    I'll definitely be looking to steal some ideas here
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    I'm a positive cornucopia of untapped talent, CELS. We'll just have to see whether my sculpting skills are up to the challenge of the concepts.

    R.

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    Can't let this thread languish on Page 4!

    Here's the initial pencil work for the final colour concept:



    Once I've painted this and got the client's green light, I'll begin to acquire the necessary parts and equipment. I'll include this stuff in the log. Not least on my list of things to acquire is a new digital camera as mine has entirely broken.

    R.

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    Whoah man, ambitious.
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    The plan is to basicalyl chop Artemis into lots of little pieces and rebuild him from there. The detail is moderately tricky, but is mostly just a matter of press moulds and patience (something I'm usually short of when doing my own stuff, but which I have in abundance when motivated with hard cash). The shield will be made from a large yoghurt pot. The helmet wings will come for the plastic 28mm DA sprue, so they're easy-peasy. By far the hardest thing will be getting the posture right. Actually, if you cut up Artemis, you realize that Jes took some liberties with the model's proportions, so that - for example - his right leg is unnaturally long and his left leg is just a wee bit short. I'll probably have to cut the feet off entirely and sculpt them from scratch, but that's easy enough. The articulated joints will be a bit harder, but I have a method in mind that should make them a bit more simple.

    Anyway, back to the grind...

    R.

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    Wow love the concept art it´s totaly awsome, really like the ideas you have. The mace and sheild combo will be alot more speciall than the usual "dark angels ´n sword" look. My favorite pice is the helmet great work!
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    Incidentally, my thanks to whoever gave me a 4* rating before I've even started the work! I hope the rating doesn't go down once I start getting my hands dirty...

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