5.0 Tactica - Tau Empire

[Hokiecow]

That is why I hope that 6th will make DS and reserves more viable options.

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[Rogerio]

Yeah its annoying as thats a 148 point unit dead without even firing a shot, really annoyed me at the time but i spose it was a very risky thing to do.

[IAMNOTHERE]

I tend to buff my FW squads with 2 Gun drones - but only because I don't have any more FW figures, otherwise I would use a DSing drone squadron for rear armour shots etc.

My current star performer is shockingly a stealth suit team! 2FB/TA & 4BC/TL - expensive but messes things up pretty well.

[Ronin no Matsu]

My current star performer is shockingly a stealth suit team! 2FB/TA & 4BC/TL - expensive but messes things up pretty well.

I used to do the same thing but I soon realised they are way more usefull if all equiped with BC. I give the FB job to crisis team or piranha. Stealth suits are awesome because of their stealth field generator. But you need to get 12'' away from an enemy to use your FB, and with T3 you don't want to.

[IAMNOTHERE]

I like to dual role units, sometimes it works. Think I'd drop the fusions if I had a 3rd broadside in my list tbh.

[meltedwing]

So, I just got to use my new Tetras for the first time yesterday. I ran 2 of them as separate units in a 1k list, giving them targetting arrays and sensor spines. They were a critical part of my win. I was able to have one shoot up my primary broadside target and usually got 3 or 4 hits, then I would have the other act as backup in case the first one whiffed, and if it didn't then I'd have the second one mark up a target for my suits to destroy.

I must say, I will probably never run pathfinders again unless the new codex makes them better.

[Rogerio]

Im with you on that Meltedwing, the only reason i actually use my pathfinders is because they are painted and i like the models quite alot. Tetras make the Tau army better! we neeeeed those markerlights to be effective, i personally love using it on a soft target like an infantry squad then driving up my FW unit and De-bussing them use 2 markerlights to improve the BS to 5 and you get about 17-18 hits and most things youll be wounding on a 2 or a 3 it really does some damage.

[lantzkev]

yeah, the new tetra makes using the stealth suit a bit obsolete for the marker light hits, I never liked taking the pathfinders though since I foot slog, and throwing a vehicle or two out there really didn't get me anything for it... I really wish that transport was optional rather than mandatory.

[meltedwing]

I'm with you on that Lantzkev. If pathfinders weren't required to take a devilfish then I'd be much happier with them, but I'd probably still take the Tetras because I can make them BS4, and they are highly mobile. I think they would have to make Pathfinders cost like 8 points each for me to even think about buying them now.

[lantzkev]

I'm with you on that Lantzkev. If pathfinders weren't required to take a devilfish then I'd be much happier with them, but I'd probably still take the Tetras because I can make them BS4, and they are highly mobile. I think they would have to make Pathfinders cost like 8 points each for me to even think about buying them now.

Yeah, I'm hoping to get someone that's going to adepticon to snag me four tetras, they just seem perfect. they fit the mobile doctrine of the tau, they do the markerlight goodness, and seem just perfectly priced for what they do and are.

I anticipate using either a squad of four or two squads of two when I get em depending on points.

[IAMNOTHERE]

I'm just hoping that more units get high intensity markerlights when we get a new codex.

In the meantime i'll have to stick with my pathfinders.

[meltedwing]

Yeah, I'm hoping to get someone that's going to adepticon to snag me four tetras, they just seem perfect. they fit the mobile doctrine of the tau, they do the markerlight goodness, and seem just perfectly priced for what they do and are.

I anticipate using either a squad of four or two squads of two when I get em depending on points.

I'm currently sticking with 2 Tetras per 1k points in the list. Which means they take up about 13% of my points or so.

In my opinion the only downside to Tetras is how much they cost in real money, which is... a lot. I think my four Tetras were just a bit over $100 with currency conversion and shipping costs added in.

My thought right now for a 2k list is to either use two units of single model Tetras and then one unit of two tetras with one of the two having a target lock so that I can ostensibly mark four targets as needed. Now, I may switch that to two units of two models in order to leave a fast attack slot open for Piranha or Pathfinders, depending on what seems to be working best for me.

I'm going to be playing the same Tau list for the next couple of weeks, so if I come up with more information, I will let you all know what I find.

Mostly I'm putting this stuff up here because I did a lot of searching for information on how Tetras were performing in people's armies, but didn't find a single shred of de-briefing.

[lantzkev]

I will probably run them in the smallest squad as I can 1-2 unless playing larger battles and I need to use the fast attack for some reason.

I just can't picture the tetras not performing and providing the markerlights like we all know we want and need. 4 potential hits, 3+ to land em, cover from the disrupter pods and able to move and shoot... it's just perfect even if they are easy to pop.

The expense after conversion certainly hurts, but I think you could do a decent job just modifying pirahanas to be them if you were really hard up for money.

[Ronin no Matsu]

Damn, if only tetras and XV9 could be in the next codex, fast attack choices would be far more attractive. Those tetras just outmatch pathfinders soooooooo much.

[meltedwing]

Well they are currently official warhammer 40k rules and units, so I would expect they will either be in the next codex, or they will continue to be official warhammer 40k rules and units that you can only get from forgeworld. I hope it's the former rather than the latter.

[Fraf]

The expense after conversion certainly hurts, but I think you could do a decent job just modifying pirahanas to be them if you were really hard up for money.

Honestly, converting piranhas isn't that great.
A pair of tetras is 33£ , a pair of piranhas is 31£ fresh off GW's online store, and often more than that if you don't live in the UK.
Sure, you can get cheaper piranhas on independant resellers, or even on eBay, but keep in mind that you're only saving a few bucks for something that :
- will require time and efforts (and possibly money) to convert
- won't look as good as the actual tetras
- will be a bit bigger than actual tetras, knowing that their small size is also one of their strength and is quite useful with such frail vehicles.

[meltedwing]

If you were going to do any "converting" or extra work to avoid cost, I would say to just buy a pair of tetras and then "copy" the pieces and parts by creating your own mold. Although that really only saves you money if you plan to make quite a few of them. It's also way time consuming. I'm not sure how much money your time is worth, but my time is worth way more than the Tetras cost.

[lantzkev]

Don't the pirahanas come in a a box set or something? At any rate, I'm talking from a US perspective on the cost, which is where you worry about currency conversion...

I've noticed a ebay retailer that I think has done what meltedwing is doing and is selling quite a few forgeworld knock offs, if they aren't recasts I'd be very surprised.

[Reivax26]

Has anyone ever fielded Farsight and his full bodyguard of Suits? If so how did it do?

[lantzkev]

I had it fielded against me, it was not hard to kill.
Saw one against a army with a vindicare, the vindicare just assigned the wounds to the suits themselves, removed the suit and two drones all in one go everyturn nearly.