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    Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Ok, after lurking around here for a couple of years, putting in my two cents here and there, I'm going to start a log blog for my orky army. I've already got 2,500 points painted and figure better late than never to jump on this bandwagon. I have an intermittant blog over at CoolMiniorNot and that doesn't really work well for keeping track of a growing mob. For the larger projects, like my previous Battlewagon, I start a specific WIP thread over there but it's not in any order as to when it happens in my army's growth.

    A quick "About Me" - been playing 40K since 1996, painting mini's since 2002, making/painting models since 1979. I love both aspects of this hobby (modeling and painting) and strive to excel at both, although I'm the first to admit, I'm a better painter than tactician!

    I'll start posting the stuff you really came here for, like pictures and stuff in my next post so as not to make you re-read this every time (you're welcome!)

    So... Welcome to Red Jack's Waaagh! Log and 'ere I go!
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    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Got the time last night to test out the GW washes, well, one of them, at least. Devlin Mud will become a very popular wash, I predict.

    Here's my testa boyz. In the pictures below (fronts, then backs), the top two are unwashed (heh, aren't all orks?) with two different colored pants. Both are GW Foundation colors, Tausept Ochre, the other Calthan Brown. The bottom is my first wash with the Devlin Mud. I applied this by dipping my brush into the pot, then dipping it in a water cup and "mixing" it on a palette. I thinned it out to what I thought looked right. I don't know how it should look, I was guessing here. It looked a little dark right out of the put so I figured to thin it a bit.





    They look alright, although I was expecting it to be more intense/darker in the lower areas. What the heck, I'm testing things out, aren't I? I applied the wash straight from the pot onto the model and lo and behold....



    Although, while wet, it looks like it'll wash out all details, it settled itself right down and played nice.
    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    (cont.)
    Here's what it looks like applied on some more boyz.



    And, here's a direct comparison of the first wash that was watered down and the full on, straight from the pot application.



    And I don't know why, but this brings me to one of my favorite part of painting the boyz (besides sealing)... STITCHES!

    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    I finished basing them last night and I'll be Dulcote-ing them tonight after work - I'll post pics so you can see the difference the Testors spray has on the brightness. Till then, some beauty shots of the completed Lootas Mob. Enjoy!



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    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Very nice orkz you got there, Nothing to give any criticism about... Every thing looks great! nice boots btw. lol

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    Thanks Green_Ranger! THe red boots are the only real consistant theme in my army. Red Jack is so named for the love of the red jack-boots he insists his boyz wear, it makes 'em fasta, ya know!
    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    The humidity dropped enough today to spray my lootas with Dulcote. Here's the final products, compared to the photos above, which are brighter and have more shine. I do paint them brighter and take the highlights up at least one more step after I'm satisfied, knowing that the Dullcote has a tendancy to mute things.

    After working on so many of the same unit, I'm ready to spend a lot of time on a single model. The next unit will be a warboss of some sort - either the Assault on Black Reach warboss which A: is all the rage right now, and B: Deserves the rage as it's an awesome model - or one of two Gazghkull models I have packed away. I'll see what strikes my fancy as I sit down to start it tomorrow (although I have a sneaky suspicion it'll be the AoBR Warboss.)







    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    whoa a CMON celebrity, Warseer has it all! Amazingly painted orks there by the way!
    you just got logged!!1 last update 13/10/08
    http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124484
    other log (does not contain traces of nuts)
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    Great orks, the detail on each one is great. I don't know how you bring yourself to paint those stitches...
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    easy the ogryn model is tougher then the space marine model. ogryns being made of metal are there fore stronger and tougher then the plastic space marine model. end of debate.

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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Thanks! Celebrity? Didn't know that.... I do bow down to many other ork folks at CMON. Ein and Irondog being two, off the top of my head. Masters of the ork. I also carefully watch (and envy) everythign Krooza and the folks over at The Waaagh! do.

    And the stitches? Small brush and big glasses! hahah.
    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Made a snazzy new base for my new bass-ass Red Jack warboss.



    I think the angle of the debris adds to the menace factor, really making him look much more animated. Here he is sticky-tacked to the base and compared to a "Barry" and the stock AoBR warboss. Not much to do now but tidy up the greenstuff mess on his shoulder and then it's prime time!

    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Just want to say one thing:

    DRILL THE BARREL HOLES!!

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    Looking good mate - will watch the Warboss progress, his base is lookimg great already!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wikear View Post
    Just want to say one thing:

    DRILL THE BARREL HOLES!!
    Thanks wikear, I almost let those slip this time! That is a pet peeve of mine also - I'd hate to be guilty of it...
    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Some of the nicest painted orks I've ever seen! Great job!
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    Looks great mate! The new washes are awesome. After seeing this i think i'll be putting in a lot more effort into my AoBR set. Can't wait to see what's next.

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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Over the years, I've had quite a few people ask me how I do my ork skin. After a few failed attempts to document, I've finally succeeded. Here's how I do my orks...



    A few notes: Ork hide is a great replacement for Dark Angels Green. I didn't stop using it all together, just differently. The Dark Green Ink (which they no longer sell...) has been replaced with the DA Green, but as a wash between the Goblin and Scorpion Greens. I prefer the color transition this gives better than the inks did. The paint based wash also dries faster!

    I don't use straight water to thin my paints - no, not snobbery, just that I have a premixed bottle of some additives taht do things to the paint and I don't have to measure each out all the time. Although I usually add more water through the brush as I'm painting, adjusting as I go depending on what the paint is doing on my palette.

    Here's my mix... 50% Water, 25% Golden (brand) Acrylic Flow Release and 25% Magic Wash MIx (4:1 Water/Mop-n-Glow).
    I thin the paint down about 1:2 or 2:1 (Paint/Mix) as a starter, then adjust w/water untill it flows from the brush nicely.

    The rest is pretty much standard. In the darker greens I paint almost the entire muscle by grouping, leaving the small areas in the deepest recesses primer black. When I get to Golbin Green Istart leaving the bottom of the muscles alone, concentrating on the tops and middle of the muscle. Buy the time I get to the Scorpion Green, I'm only hitting the very tops of the muscle, where direct overhead light would hit it. All of these layers are put down at least twice. If your paint is thinned and applied correctly, it dried fairly fast.

    The final step is the Dullcote layer. It's a flat spray sealer from Testors. If you're in the US you can find it in almost any hobby store. The UK recently banned it due to the tolune content but sounds like there's a non-tolune based version in the works. The two most important things to remember about Dullcote is #1: everything will be duller, including all highlights. I always bring my higlights up at least one step past where I want it. Notice how in the photo above, the Scorpion Green is not as bright as the second to last step. And #2: Dullcote is your friend bacuase it can do some of your "blending" of layers for you. I think the diffusion of the matte layer helps fool the eye a bit into thinking two close colors are smoother than they really are.

    Hope you enjoyed this little tutorial about my ork skin. When I do my special units like Warboss, Big Mek, etc. I use these same steps but with many, many more steps and thinner layers to mke a more gradual change in the colors. I'll try to show you on my current warboss project (if I remember to take pictures!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Re: Red Jack's (sukigod) Waaagh! Log

    Got the skin painted on the warboss face tonight, I might get the eyepiece done as well, we'll see how much longer I paint.

    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Finished up the head tonight - didn't get much time in but hey, it's a start and many small steps...

    I tried the purple look that's featured in the GW Masterclass article for the Warboss mouth interior. Close but not quite as crisp as the article. Dang thing reminds me of my painting shortcomings.... aslo gives me somethign to strive for. The metallics are washing out due to the lighting, they're much darker in real life - that's metal based paint for ya.

    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
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    Progress has been pretty slow lately due to other enagements and I'm suffering a little to day from a coworkers wedding yesterday so I don't trust myself with a brush!lol

    I've painted most of the back piece for the warboss, not sure what to do with the tube coming out from his side and what color I'm going to paint the fringe/tassel on the bosspole - I'll let inspuration strike me later.



    Quote Originally Posted by olmsted View Post
    remember when it comes to rolling dice make a math hammer can say this and it can say that about statistics. however every now and then the dice gods and lady luck will say f that hijack the car and go on their merry little way leaving mathhammer wondering what the f just happened.
    http://www.bigshoota.com
    Granite City Waaagh! Fest!
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