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    Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    Folks!

    It is now the time that the back up army for my traitors get some attention.
    I have already shown some of the evil guard in the other thread, but I decided itīs worth its own thread, since it will feature tank scratch building and other stuff which would dilute the compact theme of good vs. evil.

    Sooo, what to expect?
    I will build an army of traitors, based on the IG codex. That means: Tanks, sentinels, prob rough riders and tons of troops.
    Troops are based on Warzone models (capitol?!? the soup plate helmets)
    Tanks and all mech will be scratch. And I mean scratch, apart from tracks maybe, and the odd stubber or bolter.
    Havenīt decided on beasts for riders, might go for the new cold ones. Any suggestions here?

    Time frame about a year or so. I will ask for tips and tricks on casting and other stuff, so those who are into this stuff, keep checking back please, I might ask for help!

    As a thread start, be prepared for multi-post!

    And off it goes,
    five guys finished



    Close up



    whole squad



    Another squad started



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    Re: Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    Darn, these are awesome!

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    Re: Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    And third squad built
    See the rocket launcher guy and the plasma dude



    The specialists mentionable



    And the officers.
    All the same model, slight alterations make a big difference




    And the whole damn bunch as far as cut from sprues





    A word on the models: All in all nice to work with. The plastic is a bit harder than GWīs. There are four different models, an officer, a specialist with armoured coat and two different poses regulars. So some rebuilding is neccessary. At least some, I canīt help it.
    I have 120 of them, 15 € höhö. 40 more to cut out, 90 to build completely.
    The paint turned out to hesitate to stick on the models, but I can be convincing.

    Now on to the tanks

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    Re: Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    where did you get the models from?

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    Re: Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    Made concepts for the tanks, already shown off, but to make this complete I post them again here.

    The russ variant. A big-wheeled monstrosity, will turn out a bit longer than the standard model, equal in height. The turret sports a glass cabin. The fluff goes like: A poisened surface with bad visual conditions needed a version that made direct seeing neccessary. But the gunner had to be protected. The solution: Space-craft glass.
    The wheels came for the need to operate in swamps.
    I will make some of the FW versions. The turrets at least.






    The basilisk version.
    Most striking is the cannon pointing backwards. It is mobile artillery, but it is usually "pulled" in this case. It will however sport a cabin that points backwards, for battlefield maneuvering.




    The chimera variant will have a flatter cabin, more of a panorama window, next to the bolter position. No decision on the wheels yet.
    Suggestions?

    Sentinel also features the cabin. It will look scary. Pics soon for both!


    Concerning models (infantry). I will use commissars, priests and maybe psykers. Priests will be scary looking hooded cloaked guys, representing the evil driving force behind this treachery. Commissars prob more of a higher ranked officer, evil regime=evil methods!

    And something that canīt be missing in a traitor army: We all remember the Chaos champions entry from LatD. Right, I will field some as well, counts as Deathwatch. And the good part: True scale Chaos marines, very dark and evil looking. But these are a special, not for use in regular connection with my CSM.

    Yeah, thatīs it for now.
    Any ideas, questions, flaming for fielding guard without a single GW model?
    Iīm open for everything, let me know!

    Cheers
    Bart


    EDIT
    First replies fly in as I post

    rrchristensen, thanks mate
    xollob, Warzone models, from ebay
    Last edited by warflag; 24-10-2008 at 23:25.
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    Oooo I cannot but subscribe to this

    Great stuff, what are the infantry's base models?

    sj

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF3000 View Post
    Oooo I cannot but subscribe to this

    Great stuff, what are the infantry's base models?

    sj

    Warzone models.
    Great concepts for your vehicles: really good indeed.

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    Re: Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    Quote Originally Posted by warflag View Post
    I will build an army of traitors, based on the IG codex. That means: Tanks, sentinels, prob rough riders and tons of troops.
    Troops are based on Warzone models (capitol?!? the soup plate helmets)
    Tanks and all mech will be scratch. And I mean scratch, apart from tracks maybe, and the odd stubber or bolter.
    Havenīt decided on beasts for riders, might go for the new cold ones. Any suggestions here?
    Hey, those minis are getting quite popular, I started collecting a guard army based on them myself some months ago
    They are Imperials (aka the Brit/Irish/Scot Corporation), Capitol is more like the US corporation, as far as Warzone background is concerned.
    I have tried a couple of conversion to turn some of them into rough riders, as you plan to do, and I had some trouble with the upper part of the legs. Maybe you would have to sculpt this part anew if you want the mini to sit on the saddle not too oddly.
    Can't put my cute marine GIF here T_T

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigur View Post
    Looking nice so far. Those are dipped though, aren't they?
    Nope, wouldnīt do that. My geek pride forbids
    The impression might come from the excessive use of chestnut ink on them. I wanted a gritty look, still a bit of red to make them fit my CSM.

    To clear this from the start, paint scheme goes like this

    Armour:
    A chestnut colour, vermin brown might come close.
    Chestnut ink
    Orange highlight
    Dark torquise in recesses
    Azure blue to highlight
    Chainmail on edges, some scratches

    Black parts
    Well, black
    dark grey
    Codex grey
    Fortress for extreme highlights

    The facemasks have some other colours to them, like metal detail, brown leather parts etc.
    Visor on officers cap: Black, codex grey in a reflexion pattern, same with white

    The uniform

    Grey on black undercoat. Let black shine through the grey where shadows are
    Chestnut ink
    Graveyard earth on top sides
    Highlights with kommando kaki

    Metals:
    Boltgun
    chainmail
    Chestnut ink
    Mithril

    Quote Originally Posted by CrabHermit View Post
    Hey, those minis are getting quite popular, I started collecting a guard army based on them myself some months ago
    They are Imperials (aka the Brit/Irish/Scot Corporation), Capitol is more like the US corporation, as far as Warzone background is concerned.
    I have tried a couple of conversion to turn some of them into rough riders, as you plan to do, and I had some trouble with the upper part of the legs. Maybe you would have to sculpt this part anew if you want the mini to sit on the saddle not too oddly.
    Thanks for the info!
    Yeah, I figured riders will demand some sculpting, but only a few, not mass conversion as my Orks. So that is fine with me.
    I want to do some sculpting on commissars anyway. Originally I wanted to give all officers long coats, but scrapped that, as I had done three of them allready, and no want to redo them

    @ Allen, thanks dude, I like the tanks aswell. Hope they turn out as well in the flesh.

    You scratch builders out there: Where do you get your tanks tracks? Any ideas?, What costs do I have to expect?


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    I like the feel and the colors, but i do feel you could have converted some wicked evil looking guard from the standard stuff.
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    Can you give me a link to these guys?

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    please? I realy would like some

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    Re: Traitor Guard (good vs. evil-spinoff)

    Hi, sorry for not updating these last days. Was quite busy.

    Falkus, no link to my knowledge. I bought them off ebay. Search for "warzone, imperials" or warzone plastic. Sorry, no better news on that side.
    A link to an auction that has the minis:
    http://sammeln.shop.ebay.de/items/Sa...86Q2ec0Q2em282

    Klutzy, no weird chaos stuff, no tentacles, no horns, simple dark gritty traitors. I will add chaos symbols and the like, and chaos might show on ogryn equivalents, but thatīs it!
    I wil start on tanks hulls this week. Any ideas about a decent chimera variant?

    Cheers
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    Could I buy some off you?

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    from the paint in progress models it doesn't look like you use primer. is this true, or is it just the colours or something, terrific look to by the way.
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    I normally don't like IG, good or bad. I just think they look all too earthy and not sci-fi enough. But I love those models. Much more out of this world.

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    Great stuff. I can't wait to see the models of some of your tanks.

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    These all look amazing...

    I dont really know what to say...

    Concept sketches are incredible, and the detail and work on the figures is phenominal.

    Kudos

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    Those look great! the only thing I dont like is the heavy weapons, id go for a bigger base rather than have it hanging off the edge.
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