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    Colours for 'Specialists'

    Now we have the main coulours sorted out, what is to be done for the specialists - i.e. Chaplains, Librarians, Techmarines, Aporthecaries?

    Are we going the 'traditional' route, which involves painting the majority of the model in it's specialist colour (black for chaplains, red for techies, etc.)

    Or are we using the newer route as demonstrated in 3rd ed, with the specialist painted up similar to the other marines of the chapter, with small parts of the armour in the specialist colour?

    Or is each member painting one of the specialists deciding for themself?
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    They seem to have abandoned the new scheme and gone back to the old. All the new chaplain figures are still black, of course that could be because they are Black Templars.
    In 'How to paint Space Marines' it uses the old scheme. So Chaplains are black, Librarians are blue, Techmarines are red and Apothecaries are white.
    Of course, you commandery types can do whatever you like.

    Is there any word on helmet colours for sergeants/veterans and or guilders/moderators/administrators?
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    In the 4th Ed Codex only the armour worn by Chaplains is described as being a single colour. Techmarines sometimes colour their armour red, but do not obscure their chapter colours. There is no mention of the armour colours for Librarians or for Apothecaries.

    However, I believe we should adhere to the Codex colours as described in How To Paint Space Marines..

    Lets put it this way, Grand Master Librarian Wintermute will have Ultramarine Blue armour as per the Codex Astartes.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    • Chaplains-Black
    • Apothecaries-White
    • Techmarines-Red
    • Librarians-Blue

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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

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    • Techmarines-Red
    Definitely!

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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Hi
    Quote Originally Posted by TWB
    Apothecaries-White
    Which is pretty hard to pull off if you want to have the Chapter Colours showing as those are pretty much white themselves

    But I will manage

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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Festus, I just couldn't resist making up more colour schemes.
    Here is the 'offical' (as in the way they do them in the codex) apothecary colours applied to a Warseer.

    edit: Old version looks a hell of a lot better with a black bolter.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Oxford, we are using the 'Old' design as you term it. However the 'Old' design should have a black bolter casing, just like the bolter marine has.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Hmm, what if instead fo using the old design the white areas on the marines were changed to the specialist colours?
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Quote Originally Posted by wilting_laughter
    Hmm, what if instead of using the old design the white areas on the marines were changed to the specialist colours?
    I think that will be ok for Apothecaries only

    In all seriousness we are using the colours as originally described in the 2nd Ed Codicies (nad reintroduced for the 4th Ed). Specialist armour is recoloured in the appropriate colour for the speciality, except for the shoulder pad with the chapter markings on it.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute
    However the 'Old' design should have a black bolter casing and a blue chest eagle, just like the bolter marine has.
    No worries. I used red in the original since that is the way they are shown on the GW web site.

    wilting_laughter: How will replacing white with white help? Or do you mean for tech marines etc?
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    I've just checked my 2nd Ed Ultramarines Codex and yes, Apothecaries DO have red chest eagles.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Hi

    This is my Apothecary to-date, and I did decide against a red Eagle, as this will stick out like a sore thumb...

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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintermute
    I've just checked my 2nd Ed Ultramarines Codex and yes, Apothecaries DO have red chest eagles.
    Of course do they have red chest eagles as the 2nd Ed Minis were quite gaudily attired ...
    Do you remember the Orks, or the Imperial Fists. Heck even the DA were not so *dark* after all back then.

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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Your Apothecary is looking good Festus.

    BTW The DA Green available at the time of 2nd Ed was lighter than the DA Green we have now

    Which is why I don't use Citadel DA Green for my minis.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Since I am now a chaplain I was wondering if anyone has made any decisions about colours for them. They will obviously be predominantly black, but will they have blue detail on the breastplate or bone? For shoulder trim should a chaplain have blue, silver, gold or black? Things like that. Has Master of Sanctity Sylass already decided what he is doing?
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    I always do my chaplains with gold eagles and trims, with the appropriate chapter shoulderpad. Have you got a scan of a chaplain?

    btw, what colour would you highlight the black with? I'm thinking enchanted blue or the normal grey ones.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Quote Originally Posted by Oxford
    Since I am now a chaplain I was wondering if anyone has made any decisions about colours for them. They will obviously be predominantly black, but will they have blue detail on the breastplate or bone? For shoulder trim should a chaplain have blue, silver, gold or black? Things like that. Has Master of Sanctity Sylass already decided what he is doing?
    Chaplains wear black armour with bone coloured details. The shoulder trim is also black. One shoulder pad would be in the Chapter colours with the company symbol on it, just like the rest of the Chapter (in the case of the Warseers - this would be black as well).

    Bottom line?

    Paint your Chaplain Black
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Chaplains are so highly detailed and varied in comparison with all other specialists it would be dumb to try to impose any real set of restrictions on them.
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    Re: Colours for 'Specialists'

    Ok so I'm dumb.

    But the scheme I mentioned comes direct from the Codex and How to Paint Space Marines
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