467th / 752nd Krieg Independent Night Fighting Reg.

[castellanash]

i like the idea of sturmgeshutz destroyers, with the low profile and long barrels it could look quite cool
loving how this is playing out keep the pictures coming

[Rhaivaen]

Hi all, after a long hiatus, I am trying to get my **** into renewed action.

One of the things I am working on now is:
German Sturmpanzer IV Sd.Kfz.166 Brummbar, converting him into either
a Demolisher or a Medusa with enclosed compartment. the first is imo better.
The only discrepancies that will be as a result of this particular choice will be
that the main gun will not be in a turret, not a biggie in this game I think.

And a Pz.kpfw II Ausf.C (Sd.Kfz.121) into a Hellhound.

[SDKFZ]

Cool ideas, Rhaivaen ! Wouldnt a thunderer fit better, i know its a FW model and you need your frinds to say yes to use it but still ?
Using a Pz II as a hellhound is a hit ! I built a Pz II D-E flamingo from scratch for my afrika korps guards. Fits like a glove

/ SDKFZ

[Rhaivaen]

I managed to buy the following bits: Baneblade Demolisher cannon, Baneblade Hellfire cannon, 4 Leman Russ lascannons, I will be on the lookout for more Demolisher cannons!.

@ SDKFZ, thanks for the reply, I could do, but there is a discrepancy between the 2, even with the same weapon, the Thunderer only has a blast, not large Blast marker, hmmz.

Size wise the panzer II is indeed a nice fit, except that I will prolly need to fill the back with Oil Drums, to simulate the vast amounts of fual they use, lol.

Edit:
I also have 2 Jagdpanzer IV L/70 Lang, which I am not sure about yet what to use them for, and was intending to use the 2 Sturmgeschutz IV Sdkfz 167 for Destroyers, but they have removed the conversion kit of the Destroyer from the forgeworld website, not sure if I want to buy the whole kit just to convert

[Rhaivaen]

Seeing as that I still haven´t been able to replace my digi-camera with a new one, here some grainy sneek peeks I made with the webcam

[Rhaivaen]

I've decided to use the 2x L/70 Lang as Thunderers, and the Brummbar as a LR Demolisher.

[SDKFZ]

Sounds like a good plan, Mate ! Will you use them in 1/35 or 1/48 ?

/ SDKFZ

[Rhaivaen]

They are all 1/35th scale, as I am a proponent of bigger tanks which makes the anabolic infantry looks suitable in size again..lol.
The only real gripe I have with 1/35th scale panzer IV shassis is that the side track/ suspension makes the tank look somewhat higher then it should be, but sizewise overall it fits better then the GW tanks imo.

Having said that, I am having trouble getting more weapons on the Pzkpfw II then just the main flamer, the superstructure is simply a
little small to fit a heavy bolter or flamer on the front, (not incl the optional H.Stubber), so I might have to swap some configurations or something.
(piccy attached to show my dilemma)

[Rhaivaen]

Still not solved the dilemma of space, but I have been building up the superstructure on this here Truck, making it into a armoured car type of thingie,

Weaponry wise I would like to put a Twin Heavy Stubber onto on a small turret, and something else on the front of the drivers part, but this config. is
only possibly found on the Centaur, Krieg..but I think my armoured truck is twice it's size... and to small for a Chimera..
And either way I have to remember the weapons options either might have when I finish the model off, any suggestions?

Edit:
Then I thought a comparison piccy with some troops would help for scale
Some more lovely blurry piccy's, 1st with some Krieg, then a RR.

[Rhaivaen]

I had a forgeworld Ad. Titanicus Princeps, but for some reason his rod had snapped of off his right hand.
I have made a small conversion making him wield a laspistol instead.

I am sorry for the grainy quality of the photo's, they do my head in

[Rhaivaen]

Whow, 13,000 views, lol.

I am in the process of building 3 Adeptus Mechanicus adepts, wearing old power armour.
I am giving them Minotaur shoulder pads, as they have been taught by the techmarines of the Minotaurs Chapter.
Waiting for some bits to arrive though, like some 4 axes of off the Sevrin Loth's team.

[sigur]

Hmm, very interesting. I'm always a bit sceptic when people stick 40k guns to "proper" scale models but I think that your versions might work. I also really like the look of early war tanks and armoured cars so it's just nice to see them used. If you have a problem getting that huge inferno cannon to look right on the poor little Pz.II you can always swap it for a different kind of heavy flamer I think. Might fit a bit better. Very much looking forward to how it works out!

[Rhaivaen]

Hmm, very interesting. I'm always a bit sceptic when people stick 40k guns to "proper" scale models but I think that your versions might work.

First of all, thanks for the reply and time to look at my thread.
Yes, I am also sceptic in what vehicles I should use scale wise, that's why I am always interested in people who have similar threads and what vehicles they used/ bought. Using RL vehicles for 40K is difficult, as the 4o0K scale is inconsistent.

I also really like the look of early war tanks and armoured cars so it's just nice to see them used.

Yes, so do I, that is why I used the Pzkpfw IV, with its boxed superstructure it helps imo with the envisioning I have of tanks in 40K.
And using certain 1/35 scale models help overcome the vehicle shrinkage problems, compared to the steroid infantry.
(this is particularly visible with the Rhino derivatives compared to marines themselves, but not exclusive to.)

If you have a problem getting that huge inferno cannon to look right on the poor little Pz.II
you can always swap it for a different kind of heavy flamer I think. Might fit a bit better.
Very much looking forward to how it works out!

It's not so much the gun I got a hold of that is the problem (even at its size),
but more so the fact that the superstructure does not have space for the additional weapons that the Hellhound is supposed to have.
I am trying to see what the best configuration is for putting a heavy Flamer/ Bolter and Heavy Stubber onto the little tank.
And I will fill the back with some Drums.


Ryzan Husarz-Grenadiers (Horse heavy cavalry,
Grenade Launchers?)
Melta Guns will be better for my idea of how they are to be used.
I will use them to harass the enemy vehicles and if this is done, or if there are none, they will do other tasks.

Some fluff:

The Ryzan command that had been assigned to work with the Desert Lions Chapter had been reluctant to work with the Krieg elements
that were also made available, especially the "mutated horses", with all sorts of rumours going through the ranks about them.
The commissars worked diligently to quash these rumours, and in the end the two units worked together relatively without any incidents.
In fact, the Krieg Death Riders acquired such a good reputation with the Ryzan command and the scouting forces, that it was decided to
implement some of its tactics in their own structure.

*under edit*

[sigur]

It's not so much the gun I got a hold of that is the problem (even at its size),
but more so the fact that the superstructure does not have space for the additional weapons that the Hellhound is supposed to have.
I am trying to see what the best configuration is for putting a heavy Flamer/ Bolter and Heavy Stubber onto the little tank.
And I will fill the back with some Drums.

I see what you mean because the part where the hull MG would sit probably would be too small to mount a heavy bolter. What you could try and do is maybe try to model some kind of bowfront and put the heavy holter in there?

[Rhaivaen]

I see what you mean because the part where the hull MG would sit probably would be too small to mount a heavy bolter. What you could try and do is maybe try to model some kind of bowfront and put the heavy holter in there?

@ Sigur: bowfront? explain a little please Thanks so far for your reply anyway.

*Update:
On another note, I have managed buy of some Ebay shop 3 Baneblade cannons, so I am a happy bunny when they arrive, they will help me build 3
Thunderers, (2x L/70 Lang Jagdpanzer IV, and 1x Jagdpanzer IV A-0) in addition to my Brummbar use as Demolisher.
They were slightly more expensive then the one I bought of off Bits and Kits site ( 3 pound) whereas the ones of off Ebay were 4,50 each..but they are hard to get a hold of, so I thought I should buy them anyway.

[Rhaivaen]

I think Sigur has fallen asleep, thus no reply as yet, lol.

Tiny update to show what I am working on, MATCHSTICKS!



Rough idea of the bases I am working on, basically trenches with wood reinforced,
although the big base's shorter half of the parted side will be filled up with "earth".
Unfortunately I packed this big base with to much wood glue, so there is a lot of
dark "gravel" on the base, the other bases will be showing more wood..

[Rhaivaen]

Bought some new tools, a Coping?-saw, (Figuurzaag in my lang.) and a Stanley knife.
Made life so much easier to cut (saw) out parts of the L/70 LANG Jagdpanzer IV's.. and now I have added the Demolisher guns on one of their chassis, it fits like a glove.

[Rhaivaen]

People seem to not rate me very nicely, prolly because my piccies are grainy now and I haven't painted much yet.. hmmz

must change that, BUT,
I have an ace up my sleeve, HAH..update soon..

[Rhaivaen]

Not yet able to show my ace in the hole, lol, but I do have an obligatory photo to show
I give you "Pluisje" (fluff-y), and "Grijsje" (Grey-y)(

[Rhaivaen]

Some more stuff coming up, as I received my order from Curious Constructs, 20 Life Guard (Breastplate) Torso's.
What is nice about them is, they fit the plastic imp guard models snugly, and are an easy transition of cadian plastic to krieg resin, as they work seamlessly with Pig Iron heads
On another note, the Ogryn in the back has a fitting problem, his right arm does not fit at all, and needs green stuffing to be corrected.
I am crap at this, having been good at using clay when I was a 8 y/o, I am no longer in possession of these skills, lol.
So I need to find someone who can sculpt arms, and correct this for me
(maybe even help me build some more Ogryns out of Ogre bits..as a commission)