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    Thumbs up Swebat IS11: A modern/veteran inspired IG army

    New stuff at page 6! Heavy update 5/10 - 2010

    So, I'm back with Warhammer 40k (many thanks to my old Valkyrie model) and I've done some progress so I decided to create a log over here.

    Well, the theme of my army is modern/40k, more exactly the swedish armed forces (even if it seems to contain around one and half soldier).

    I'm planning to focus moslty on infantry, based on the veterans.
    The uniform will be a bit different from model to model, but I'll try to stick to the M90 camo (a bit atleast!).

    HQ
    Haven't made up any ideas for this one to be honest. Ideas would be great.
    Company commander with boltgun
    Medic
    Vox
    Regimental standard
    Cameloline
    Special weapons?
    Heavy weapon team?

    Elites
    Storm troopers with meltas, sergeant with plasma and bolter.
    Snipers (using the rules from the catachan codex)

    Troops
    Veteran squad 1 (Covering the second squad)
    Harker
    Cameleoline
    Autocannon
    3 sniper rifles
    Vox

    Veteran squad 2 - Hard one, having problems deciding what to take and not. This is a forward squad, still not an assault squad.
    Sergeant with shotgun(?) Assault 2, better than a a pistol and CCW.
    Carapace, eventually also cameleoline.
    Thinking of equipping this squad with 3 grenade launchers and a missile launcer. Eventually 2 grenade launchers and one plasma gun.
    Vox

    Fast attack
    Valkyrie squadron - Haven't really planned anything for this one yet.

    Sentinel squadron - Armoured(?) with 3 plasmacannons or 2 plasma cannons and a lascannon

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    Thoughts? I'm not going to have alot of stuff in my army that's why I'm using the doctrines. I'm not going to mount up in Chimeras either, but I'm planning to create an armoured fist squad tho.

    Not going to tell my life story and I bet none of you're interested.

    So here's some pictures, mostly of them are in the WIP stage, or lets say all of them.



    My pride, bought it when I was a kid, butchered it. Tho I managed to get a place in "Pimp my Valkyrie" so it's back in action again. WIP.



    Pilots, a bit of a WIP.



    Paint job, many thanks to my cousins for fulfilling it.



    Older than my Valkyrie, I present you - Trent! He has been repainted a few times I tell you. WIP at the moment.

    Please, proceed to the next post.
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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.




    A WIP of a guardsman in the forward squad (veteran squad 2).




    Two other members of the second squad, please, if you got any posing ideas let me know. I'm stuck with these two lads.



    Head concept.



    This one is probably going to be a sergeant in one of my squads. Early WIP.

    Allright, I bet I've missed alot of stuff and I know the photos aren't the best ones (used the camera for the first time today).

    More pictures to come! If you have any ideas or tips for posing and so on. Please let me know since I'm out of inspiration at the moment.

    Many thanks for checking, mates.

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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Nice looking models. The Valkyrie looks really good. I am about to paint two myself.
    Your views much appreciated as I need all the help I can get!
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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Extrac32 View Post
    You seem to have the special and heavy weapons teams listed under the HQ when they are now apart of the platoons. Everything looks good so far.
    No, it's actually the command squads choices. Not sure which one to pick.
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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    You seem to have the special and heavy weapons teams listed under the HQ when they are now apart of the platoons. Everything looks good so far.
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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    That is a brilliant Valk.

    The veterans are looking really good too.

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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Realy nice Models, the Plan for my Catachans look realy similar.


    Haven't made up any ideas for this one to be honest. Ideas would be great.
    I have choosen Straken and the squad has a Melter, a Flamer, a Vox and of course a medic. The abiliys of Straken are very use full, for such specialised army.

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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Lovely decal on the Valkyrie, and I think giving your troops webbing/chest rigs is a great idea, and not one I've seen done before. I'd worry about them getting covered up by the gun, but that's a pose issue that I'm sure you've thought of already. And lastly, the eyes painted on the Stormie are great.
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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Thanks for all yer comments! I'm going to post some new updates under this week (final phase of college before summer holidays).

    I've updated my armylist a bit.

    HQ
    Company commander with boltgun
    Medic
    Vox
    Regimental standard
    Cameloline
    Sniper(?)
    Autocannon(?)

    Elites
    Storm troopers with meltas, sergeant with plasma pistol and bolter.
    Snipers (using the rules from the catachan codex)
    Sly marbo

    Troops
    Veteran squad 1 (Covering the second squad)
    Harker
    Cameleoline
    Autocannon
    3 sniper rifles
    Vox

    Veteran squad 2 - This is a forward squad, still not an assault squad.
    Sergeant with shotgun
    Carapace, eventually also cameleoline.
    3 Grenade launchers or 2 GL and one plasma gun?
    Missile launcher
    Vox

    Veteran squad 3 - Armoured fist with scratchbuilt APC
    Sergeant with shotgun
    Carapace
    3 GLs or 2 plasmas and one GL?
    Missile launcher?
    Vox

    Fast attack
    Sentinel squadron - Armoured(?) with 3 plasmacannons or 2 plasma cannons and a lascannon

    Thoughts on this one?
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    Great start on the Valk. The conversions are imaginative, but you could do with giving that greenstuff a little more attention, as the straps are a touch untidy here and there. Plus, the NVGs look like they couldn't actually drop down over the eyes, as the headband is too high. Remember that, if pushed up off the eyes, the back of the headband should drop down to the nape of the neck.

    Keep it up!

    R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandgrinder View Post
    HQ
    Company commander with boltgun
    Medic
    Vox
    Regimental standard
    Cameloline
    Sniper(?)
    Autocannon(?)
    Cameloline = we can hide better for sneaking up on people,
    Regimental standar = everybody look at us.

    Nothing wrong with it, but it always seems like a silly combination to me.

    Elites
    Storm troopers with meltas, sergeant with plasma pistol and bolter.
    Snipers (using the rules from the catachan codex)
    Sly marbo
    Since the Hellguns got a big bost, I really don't see the point in changing it for a bolter.. 6in more range, but gives marines an armour save. Although I'm guessing this is for the model rather than the rules.

    Troops look fine, although, Harkers unit are loosing allot of maneuverability as he gives them move through cover and a mobile HW, But I can't say there is anything wrong with the multiple HW fire base option either.

    Looks like a nice list, not putting the valk into it though?

    Whats the plan for the scratchbuilt APC, design wise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by precinctomega View Post
    Great start on the Valk. The conversions are imaginative, but you could do with giving that greenstuff a little more attention, as the straps are a touch untidy here and there. Plus, the NVGs look like they couldn't actually drop down over the eyes, as the headband is too high. Remember that, if pushed up off the eyes, the back of the headband should drop down to the nape of the neck.

    Keep it up!

    R.
    Thanks alot mate. Indeed, the Valkyrie's lines ain't beautiful, but I'm glad I managed to get it together.
    I bought it on a holiday when I was visiting England (Stains more exactly) and when I got it, I actually got a little surprised over how badly casted it was to be honest, even if I was around 12-13. Well, let me put it this way; You shouldn't let a 13 year old fix a badly casted Valkyrie.
    Though, she's operational now and I'm looking forward to buy a plastic one to complement my mistakes.

    Thanks for your NVG notice. Haven't thought of it at all. Are you recommending me to do something equal to this - http://www.pf-militarygallery.com/im...hoto_01_dp.jpg
    I'm just afraid of that the scout night vision might look a bit weird then. Also, this mate is bare headed. Hard one to be honest, though you are right.
    If you got any ideas, please share.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explodingboy View Post
    Cameloline = we can hide better for sneaking up on people,
    Regimental standar = everybody look at us.

    Nothing wrong with it, but it always seems like a silly combination to me.



    Since the Hellguns got a big bost, I really don't see the point in changing it for a bolter.. 6in more range, but gives marines an armour save. Although I'm guessing this is for the model rather than the rules.

    Troops look fine, although, Harkers unit are loosing allot of maneuverability as he gives them move through cover and a mobile HW, But I can't say there is anything wrong with the multiple HW fire base option either.

    Looks like a nice list, not putting the valk into it though?

    Whats the plan for the scratchbuilt APC, design wise?
    Yeah, it's the Storm trooper model, and I forgot about the new hellgun stats.

    About the regimental standard, mostly took it for the fluff, might just leave out the points part.

    So Harker's heavy bolter is mobile? I actually thought it was counted as a "Heavy".

    Sorry for any spelling mistakes, a bit busy and tired.

    Edit:
    About the APC, something like this (Chimera with autocannon):
    http://www.soldf.com/patgb203.html
    Sorry for the swedish text.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandgrinder View Post

    So Harker's heavy bolter is mobile? I actually thought it was counted as a "Heavy".
    It's highly not obvious but yes its mobile. The fact they named it would of made sense just to write it under his rules or something but they don't.
    The bit that makes it mobile is that he has the Relentless rule, ie: always counts as stationary.

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    Are you recommending me to do something equal to this - http://www.pf-militarygallery.com/im...hoto_01_dp.jpg
    No, not really. What I mean is that in this image:

    ...the straps on top of the helmets (bottom left and bottom right) are of a length that, if the models attempted to pull the NVGs down, the whole assembly would fall off. The horizontal strap should be attached at an angle so that the back of the strap sits under the rear rim of the helmet and rises up to just above the front rim. That would imply that the whole thing could be pulled down over the eyes without falling off.

    It's a teeny-tiny detail, only really noticeable because of the large photos. On the tabletop, it would barely show. I only mention it because, if you're going to take the time to do such time-consuming, delicate conversion work, you might as well do it as well as you can, and you've clearly got the skills.

    R.

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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Everything looks great! Inspiring to see another guard force inspired by the swedish army, though mine has soviet looks it is built around the swedish artillery battalion. Yours really look the part, especially the "chest rigs" (stridsvästen) looks great. What parts did you use for the pockets?

    Definitely subscribed.

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    Great work!!! I do not know if you meant it to be so, but the three ammunition pouches down on the soldiers' waist almost look like the ones once used for the m/96 rifle. I like it alot.
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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Your painting quality looks very high - given that, have you considered making the girl on the Valkyrie look less like an anime character? I can't imagine any troops taking themselves seriously dropping into combat with a goggle-eyed cartoon girl plastered on their transport. The legs also look bony and childish. I know that's often the point in anime, but it's creepy as hell when the symbol is supposed to be sexually provocative in nature. Rework the face a little bit, round out the thighs, and you'll have an awesome model right there.

    I look forward to seeing paint on the infantry!

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    Re: Swebat KS11: Starting up IG again.

    Quote Originally Posted by precinctomega View Post
    About the NVG
    Fixed, sure looks better now. Thanks alot.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheBeat View Post
    Everything looks great! Inspiring to see another guard force inspired by the swedish army, though mine has soviet looks it is built around the swedish artillery battalion. Yours really look the part, especially the "chest rigs" (stridsvästen) looks great. What parts did you use for the pockets?

    Definitely subscribed.
    Glad you liked it, mate. It's quite simple, just file down a bit off the chest, use a small space marine pouch or the ork ones. Then tie the straps down+add a few more details on the breast area.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pekel View Post
    Your painting quality looks very high - given that, have you considered making the girl on the Valkyrie look less like an anime character? I can't imagine any troops taking themselves seriously dropping into combat with a goggle-eyed cartoon girl plastered on their transport... Rework the face a little bit, round out the thighs, and you'll have an awesome model right there.

    I look forward to seeing paint on the infantry!
    I guess you're quite right there mate tbh, but it's coated.
    I'll keep that in mind for my next Valkyrie (plastic one then). My current one is very fragile, so I don't think I will convey her around too much.

    Anyway, thanks for all of your other comments and a special thanks to Explodingboy who pointed out the correct rules for Harker. I've redone my armylist a bit.

    HQ
    Company commander with boltgun
    Medic
    Regimental standard
    Vox
    2 snipers(?)

    Also, I've been thinking of adding a commissar lord (mostly for the conversion possibilities). He'll be equipped with a boltgun.

    ^ Cameleoline and eventually carapace on all of them. They will hang out with the second squad (the snipers and autocannon lads).

    Elites
    Storm trooper squad with meltas. Sergeant with bolter and plasma pistol.

    Sly Marbo

    Snipers

    Troops
    Veteran Squad 1 - Forward squad
    Harker addon
    Cameleoline
    Vox
    Missile launcher team
    3 grenade launchers / Or should I pick 2 of them and one plasma gun?

    Veteran Squad 2 - Covering squad
    Cameleoline
    Carapace armour
    Sergeant with shotgun
    Vox
    Autocannon team
    3 snipers

    Ev. Veteran squad 3 - Armoured fist squad
    Carapace armour
    Sergeant with shotgun + ev. plasma pistol
    Vox
    Not sure about heavy weapon team or special weapons for this squad. Any ideas/experiences?

    That's it for now. Planning to buy a sentinel this weekend.

    Some visual updates:



    A bit rough, smoothing is coming. Radio-guy to the right. Edit: I've redone the kneepads, images are on their way.



    Sniper, WIP.

    More updates to come, stay tuned.
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    I love the Valk, but the girl on the side is a little to animeish for my taste. Good free hand, I'm just not into anime. I love your conversions too. Gonna steal some of these ideas for my later projects Immitation is the best form of flattery, as they say.
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    Looking really good still. I like the shortened lasgun look that you've come up with.

    Out of interest, and because if you have mentioned it already I missed it, but which of the veteran units will these current models be, the carapace or recon?

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